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  1. Hi, I started my tapering journey from mirtazapine, which I've taken for almost eight years, on mid January of this year. After reducing to 25% and feeling awful for two days I found on the internet that 10% is what people recommend reducing. Tried a 10% reduction and after two weeks depression and anxiety manifested and went back up to 100% for a day. I'm on a 5% percent reduction and AM very happy to Say that WD symptoms now practically have disappeared. My current challenge is during PMS. Even with taking a full dose, PMS has been challenging. WD symptoms appear (a wave) and I find that taking one 100% dose makes me get back on track. Has anybody dealt with PMS and WD symptoms? I want to thank Altostrata and all the people who collaborate to keep us informed. I'm learning a lot from this forum and hope to keep learning and finding hope for this journey.
  2. Hi Altostrata thank you for this info. I have just discovered these forums and had not heard of the 10% rule until now. I was on mirtzapaine for about a year and got up to a very high dose of 60mg. It did not help me and I should have been taken off it much earlier instead of increasing the dose higher and higher. Over the last few months I've been trying to taper off it by increments of 7.5mg. Since then I've been getting this horrific feeling of being electrocuted just as I'm about to fall asleep, and am punched awake again. It's left me desperately wanting to sleep but afraid of sleep at the same time because that moment when you're about to nod off then ZAP. I reduced my dose lower and lower and towards the end I sped up my tapering rather than slowing it down as I couldn't stand the zaps and just wanted this toxic **** out of my body. It would have been well over 10% of that dose. I had nobody to guide me through this and didn't realise that at lower doses you need to taper extra slow, not faster. I realise I've been showing all the signs of somebody who's extra sensitive to dose reductions. Now my sleep is even worse than before I started taking antidepressants. I have lost the ability to sleep altogether. No matter what I do, I'm awake all night, and am still getting the zaps. I've been feeling so hopeless I want to die. I often have to take sleeping pills to get any sleep at all, but they usually only give me about 3 hours, a little less. I don't want to get hooked on another drug and then go through this nightmare withdrawal thing all over again. I don't know what to do. What would you suggest? Is it worth getting back on it or just trying to ride this out? Have I done permanent damage to my brain? I need help
  3. How I taper Mirtzapine: I put my Mirtzapine pill in 300mL's of water. After it dissolves, I shake it up and use an oral syringe to pull some water out and discard it. Pulling out 1mL more each night means the taper will take 300 days.
  4. Hi, Glad to have found this site. Any advice or comments more than welcome. After a few horrendous months on mirtazapine, I self tapered over a 3 week period. Before that I was on citalopram which just made me internally shake and increased my anxiety to the point of self combustion. Then I was on both for a week, then just the mirt for a few months. Ever since starting ADs I developed muscle twitches, in my arms (triceps and biceps), thighs, calves and ankles. Very occasionally in my fingers and face also. I honestly have no recollection of this before taking ADs. i decided I wanted to stop taking ADs as I felt they were actually making my anxiety worse. My doctor advised me just to use the last 2 week prescription of 15mg tablets then stop. I decided to try to reduce the dosage a bit slower and ended up stopping over 3 weeks. I still have the muscle twitches and muscle weakness. Quite frankly its freaking me out. Is this common in withdrawal? Has anyone else suffered with this? Is it permanent? When will it stop? Sorry for the epic ramble!
  5. Hi, I'm in a dire situation. I've been online all night (haven't slept) and came across this very informative forum and thought I'd link with others who are or who have gone through this hell. I can't reach out to my psych doc as he is away, and I don't want to the ER for a third time to have them tell me follow up with my specialists. I started Mirtazapine for insomnia about a year ago. I never went above 15 mg and stayed mostly at 3.25. Recently I decided to get off as I felt it was losing it's potency (and noticed palpitations but not sure if it was the MIRT) and foolishly started to take it some nights and not others. I was supplementing with melatonin (5-20 mg) every night, and started to use an old script of low-dose Klonopin to help me sleep (.25-.5). The real trouble started about two weeks ago when I took tryptophan (1000 mg) at the same time as the Mirtazapine 3.25. The next day I felt really foggy and took my prescribed Vyvanse (60 mg) as usual. Within minutes I knew something was wrong. I had to pull over because of severe anxiety, palpitations, and racing heart. I took an "emergency" dose of Klonopin .5 and it helped calm me down and quiet the Vyvanse. I was able to go to work. Later that night, I went to sleep and took another Mirtazapine 3.25. About 20 minutes later I started to feel my muscles tensing and I began having tremors and shivering. My heart rate went up to 130 bpm and I could feel skipped beats. Ofcourse I freaked and it just made things worse. I'm not a hypochondriac and I haven't been to the ER in decades but I told my wife we had to go. On the way I downed another .5 of Klonopin. My heart rate eventually returned to normal but my blood pressure was elevated (160/95). I told them I thought I might have Seretonin Syndome but they didn't seem to know much about it and released me with a script for a beta blocker (Metrorpolol 50 mg) and told me to stay off the Mirtazapine. That weekend I took my other prescribed ADHD med, Desoxyn, which has less peripheral agitation, and was fine. I stayed away from the mirtazapine but replaced it with the beta blocker and the klonopin which helped me sleep. Several days later, I took a very low dose of my Desoxyn and I nearly jumped out of my skin. I t was like I had become sensitized to it, just like I had become sensitized to the Mirtazapine. Desoxyn has a interaction warning about Serotonin Syndome. I told myself I was down with these meds until I figured out what was going on. I had to sleep though so I took a Doxylamine (Unisom)- cut in half about 12.5 mg. Within 20 minutes, the same thing that happened with the Mirtazapine happened with the Doxylamine--racing heart, severe agitation, high blood pressure. Off to the ER again. I took a .25 of Klonopin and by the time they took me in I was relaxed and everything was baseline. Doxylamine has anti-histamine activity just look low-dose Mirtazapine and when I brought this up, they again told me to follow up with a cardiologist. It's been three days and I've barely slept since. The next day I felt the same terror and agitation I felt when I took the Mirtazapine and the Doxylamine, but instead of going to the ER for a third time, I took another .5 mg of Klonopin and it subsided. I went to work but have had extreme anxiety, elevated blood pressure, chest and stomach tightness, no appetite, toe twitching, sweaty palms, palpitations, and severe agitation. The only thing that is keeping me sane is Klonopin (which I don't want to develop a tolerance to again, if I haven't already which I think I may have) and low-dose Metroprolol which keeps my hears under 100 but I can still tell it's fighting a ton of adrenaline surges every hour or so. I'm scared to death and wonder if I'm dealing with sensitization due to Serotonin Syndome or just taking Mirtazapine randomly different nights, withdrawal from the Mirtazapine since it's been about 1.5-2 weeks, withdrawal from the Klonopin... In reading these forums, I am inclined to say I want to reinstate half of 3.25 Mirtazapine in order to kill the adrenaline surges and severe agitation. I feel that my heart is being overworked with a withdrawal, but since I seem to be sensitized to Mirtazapine (and other medications that work on serotonin or anti-cholergenic drugs) I don't know if that's a good idea. I'm appreciate of any feedback or wisdom here. I apologize if this post is rambling. I'm actually a writer but my lack of sleep over the last few nights has fried my executive functioning. BTW I do have an appointment with a cardiologist to get an event monitor, and my psychiatrist comes back in two weeks, but I'm afraid to wait that long if I should reinstate I understand timing is crucial. Thank you
  6. ADMIN NOTE This topic was accidentally deleted. With many apologies to Jony, I reconstituted it from Google cache as much as I could. Moderator note: link to members-only benzo thread - Jony: clonazepam taper off fast BY JONY Posted December 7, 2017 Hi, More than ten years ago I had panic attacks and anxiety. After consulting several doctors and taking several antidepressants and benzodiazepines, I was able to stabilize with Cipralex (10mg) and Victan (2mg). (it seems that victan is little known, perhaps because it is marketed in few countries in europe) And during all these years I managed to lead a normal life. Some time ago, two years or so, I had a phase in which I was more anxious, because of some problems, I started taking mirtazapine (15mg) to get a rest and sleep better. A month ago, due to some problems, I felt more nervous and did not sleep well, so the doctor prescribed me Nozinan (25mg) and Clonazepam (2mg). Then he suggested that I stop Victan and take Xanax XR. One week later I was told to take Mirtazapine 30 mg and Clonazepam, instead Nozinan. Yesterday he told me to stop the Cipralex and go back to taking Clonazepam at night.So it would be: Morning: Xanax XR Night: Nozinan, Mirtazapine and Clonazepam. Well, a complete mess, as you can see. I feel that each new drug serves to control the effects of the former one, or the new combination of drugs, so I want to taper this drugs. To summarize: I am currently taking: Morning Cipralex 10mg Xanax XR 1mg Night Mirtazapine 15 mg Nozinan 25 mg What is the best to taper first? According to what I read here The one I take less time is Nozinan, one month, so I thought I'd start with this one. And also because Mirtazapine helps to sleep. Nozinan - 25% each 3/4 days, since I only took one month ago. Then, I thought about taper Mirtazapine classic way, 10% each 3-4 weeks, according to symptons... Or is it better to start reducing Cipralex, which is more exciting, and only after mirtazapine? Hugs Sorry for may bad english, I hope you understand all.
  7. Since my Intro thread seems to have disappeared, this is my new one... What led me to this world of AD's and Benzos was a panic disorder, more than 10 years ago. And the PD was triggered by anxiety and depression. I'm not sure even by these days if that anxiety brought depression, if depression brought anxiety, or both came at same time. But my better guess is that anxiety showed up first and triggered all the rest. Anyway, after many drugs taken such as Paroxetine, Venlafaxine (both caused me severe adverse reactions), Moclobemide, Mirtazapine, Alprazolam, Midazolam, Mexazolam, Diazepam, you name it, eventually I could stabilize with Escitalopram and Ethyl Loflazepate. Two years ago I started to take Mirtazapine to helps me sleep. I had some problems at work and my sleep was affected. Last November, due some problems (also in my job, but there was more...) I started to feeling more anxious and I can´t sleep...and the whole thing started again. I took Levomepromazine to helps me sleep and my former Psychiatrist told me to stop Mirtazapine. Didn´t work since I felt numb all day long. So I came back to Mirtazapine and started to take Clonazepam. When I knew this site I still tried to drop off Clonazepam, but it was very thoug. However, I already reduced Clonazepam from 2 mg to 1.6 mg as well Escitalopram from 10 mg to 9 mg and now I'm holding, as you can see on my signature. That being said, let me continue with my journal... I´ve been noticed one thing, first I didn´t pay attention but now I thought it could be interesting: in the morning I feel more depressed, with all regrets I have, all intrusive thoughts, stuff like that... Later in the day I start to feel better, despite becoming a little bit more anxious since about 5 p.m until I take Clonazepam at night (as discussed on my benzo thread). Let´s say, my best time in day is in the range 1 p.m - 5 p.m. and the mornings always are more complicated. When I just awake all seems to be hard... Is there any explanation for this?
  8. Hi all. I have been researching psych med withdrawal for the past couple months, ever since i came off Latuda, which gave me anxiety so bad that i couldnt sleep for days, ended up in the ER, on Klonopin, and finally a week stay in the VA psych ward where they put me on mirtazapine 15mg. I am currently tapering off Mirtazapine. this is my 4th day dropping my dose to 7.5 and i havent felt anything different yet. I will keep posting.
  9. Diehard: tapering

    Hello brave souls, After various other antidepressants I started Paxil (20mg) seven years ago and augmented with Mirtazapine (30mg) 4 years ago. In the interim I still suffered feelings of hopelessness, worthlessness and all the signs of Dysthymia so what was the point of the medication? Poor concentration and performance wrecked my career and emotional impulsiveness caused many problems in my marriage. I cannot understand why my dear wife of 37 years is still with me? I retired 4 years ago due to stress and depression but now at the age of 70, finally I have had enough antidepressants making me more depressed! I’m in my third week of reducing Paxil down to 15mg, so far so good. Although I have read many horror stories about weaning off Paxil, I am confident I will succeed if I go slowly. Drinking lots of water, daily walking, along with a good diet and reading all the brave success stories from this site will get me through. I know it! Once the Paxil is out of my system, Mirtazapine is next! I know it won’t be easy but I’m looking forward to the challenge. I thank all you brave soldiers for your encouragement and advice. Peace be with you!
  10. Hi there, I am wanting some information on how to withdraw or at the least reduce my medications. I was initially put on lexipro for 3 months in nov 2015, it made me a lot worse and I was taken off it and put on Risperdal 1mg and cymbalta 120mg January 2016. I stayed on this for a year with slight improvement and then in December 2016 my psychiatrist reduced my rispiradol to 0.5 when I complained about oversleeping weight gain and lingering mental illness, within 2 weeks this made me very edgy and unsettled so she increased it back to 1mg and said I might have to be on it forever, she then added 30mg mirtazipine. I have been on these 3 for the last year. I am terrified of going back to how I was but I also do not like the side effects or simply being on drugs. Im hesitant to seek advise from the same psychiatrist as the last time I went there she wanted to put me on a mood stabilizer which was March 2017 I never went back... any advise please? Thank you x
  11. I posted on October 7th for advice on difficulties I was having withdrawing from mirtazapine (night time anxiety, palpitations and related insomnia). It was suggested that I restart the antidepressants and do a slow taper but I instead stupidly decided to try to tough it out. Now, after 18 weeks off, my difficulties have, if anything, intensified and my doctor agrees this may be withdrawal syndrome. (When I did take a dose of mirtazapine everything resolves. Also I didn’t have these issues before starting mirtazapine). He proposes helping me stabilise by prescribing trazodone (50mg) for a period rather than reinstating a low dose of mirtazapine 7.5mg), given that it seems to have caused the problem in the first place. Does anyone have a view on whether there is any advantage in going back on the mirtazapine instead of trazodone to stabilise then slowly tapering off that? Or are there any other better options? Any views you can give me are much appreciated. Regards Geecee
  12. I am having terrible time getting off Olanzapine I first did with Clonazepam, I've managed to reduce from 40mg to 0 but I have total insomnia, sleeping just 0-2 hours of very vivid dreams. I believe there are people on this forum in the same situation. This has gone on for months now. I used to use Olanzapine I have total anhedonia, complete lack of creativity, imagination memories, motivation, severe aphasia, can't express myself, one drug that helped this was Oxcarbazepine, but however when I took another dose of Olanzapine the effect went away completely and didn't return from it.
  13. Hello everyone, my name is Nicholas and I'm a 21 years old guy from Italy. I suffered from chronic insomnia from the age of 15 and in mid-February 2017 was prescribed before bedtime the antidepressant mirtazapine at 15 mg and the antipsychotic olanzapine at 2,5 mg. I took them for 2 weeks without improvement. Therefore the psychiatrist increased mirtazapine at 30 mg and olanzapine at 10 mg. Now I believe that he thought I had bipolar disorder type 1 but I hadn’t any mental illnes. I took olanzapine at 10 mg because I think was only a tranquilizer and because I trusted the doctor. Olanzapine made me sleep for 13 hours but I was no longer myself. After 5 days I tried to split the tablet but it gave me a strange effect. So I continued for others 15 days at 10 mg because I really needed to sleep. Then in April 2017 I tapered olanzapine in 1 week because I could not live anymore like that. I took it for a total of 48 days. After this I reduced mirtazapine to 15 mg and 1 week later I stop cold turkey. At that time I took the benzodiazepine brotizolam at 0,25 mg for 2 weeks to help me sleep. The withdrawal symptoms were terrible for 4 months and I have not been the same anymore. When I was on mirtazapine and olanzapine I had eyelids fasciculation 2 or 3 times per day. When I quitted olanzapine the eyelids fasciculation ceased. 2 weeks after withdrawal from olanzapine and 1 week from mirtazapine I started to have frequently intermittent muscle twitching in the left thigh and occasionaly pulsating muscles in other parts of the body. After less than a couple of months they have decreased in frequency and intensity but didn’t stop completely. During this period I was forced to take the antidepressant sertraline and the benzodiazepine diazepam because for the new psychiatrist I had obsessive compulsive disorder with an obsession for the damage of antipsychotics. I did not have anything like that and could taper and withdraw after 3 months in July 2017. Now I think maybe that the muscles twitching have diminished because diazepam is also a muscle relaxant. In August 2017 I started to have continuous fasciculations in the legs when I lie down and less frequently when I sit while I never had them when I move. Few times a day I had pulsating muscles also in the arms and the trunc but never in the face. I never had muscle twitches in multiple parts of the body at the same time. In September the muscles twitching moved for 1 week in the lower abdominals. In October 2017 for 2 weeks the muscles twitches suddenly stopped in the legs and continued in the rest of the body about 10 times per day. When the muscles twitching returned they were milder. Sometimes the fasciculations are so mild that when I looked at my calf I saw them without feel them. In the legs they have become more single rapid muscular contractions than pulsating muscles. Soon after I started to have continuos pulsating muscle in my upper lip. The muscle twitch was very mild and lasted 2 weeks but after it I have sometimes pulsating muscle also in my face. Do you think it is a tardive dyskinesia caused by olanzapine despite I haven’t involuntary body movements? Do you think it could be some other side effect caused by olanzapine or maybe mirtazapine? It’s 8 months that I’ve it. I have been visited by several psychiatrists and neurologists and everyone said it was just stress. Even if I do not have the symptoms of tardive dyskinesia I do not know what else it could be: I’m not stressed and I do not suffer from anxiety, I do not take stimulants, I can sleep, I have had blood tests and I haven’t electrolyte imbalances or hypoglycemia, I did electromyography and had normal results. The thing that worries me most is that there is a very large amount of medical literature that associates tardive dyskinesia with cognitive impairments. If it were to be tardive dyskinesia do you think that the fact that for almost 2 weeks the muscles twitches had almost disappeared means that I am healing? Thank you and greetings from Italy.
  14. I've been tapering 15 mg. Mirtazapine for about 7 months now. I am now down to 8.5 mg. After having received bad advice from a doctor about this time last year, I struggled greatly after he did a huge decrease in my dose. I waited quite awhile before I tapered again. I started out doing very tiny decreases because I was so hesitant of trying again, as little as 2-3%. Obviously I didn't put much of a dent in the 15 mg., so the past few months I decided to taper quicker, the recommended 10%. Still, I estimate the total time to be around 2.2 years. This just sounds SO LONG! I haven't known many people who have tapered from Mirtazapine, but I'm wondering about how long it would take most people to taper off of 15 mg. Mirtazapine? Or if anyone could give me an estimate on how long to taper from the second highest dose from ANY drug? I appreciate anyone's answers. Thanks!
  15. Peace and best wishes to all - I've been lurking on SA for about 10 weeks and have found the resources on SA to be a huge help. Thank you for this wonderful website! I'm finding Mirtazapine to be incredibly difficult to taper, much more difficult to taper than the benzo which I've been tapering. Because I've been taking mirtazapine for insomnia I therefore judge my success in a dosage decrease by how much sleep I get, and I'm not having any luck getting any sleep below 28.5 mg. Is this because mirtazapine has a short half-life? I've read to not decrease the dosage by more than 5% - 10% per month, and I've gradually been decreasing my dosage to these levels. I understand that this suggestion is a guideline, yet a good benchmark coming from others who have experienced AD tapers themselves. Any suggestions as to how I can successfully decrease the dosage past the 28.5 mg level? Thank you in advance for any and all suggestions.
  16. Peculiar

    Thank you for accepting me to your forum.I am about to start a taper off mirtazapine . I have been taking it for 7 weeks. I had previously been tapering Prozac every other day 40mgs for one week then reducing to 20mgs every other day for two weeks. Then I started Mirtazapine 15mgs for two weeks then upped it to 30mgs a day. I dropped the Prozac completely 2 weeks into the Mirtazipine (on my drs instruction) so needless to say I am in a bit of a state! I need to get off the Mirt and then am thinking about taking Prozac again and commencing a slow steady taper. I am not sure what to say to my Doctor?
  17. I'm very angry and very scared about the withdrawal I am having from Remeron. I have been taking this drug for 18 years! When I started, I was told that when I was ready to come off of it all I needed to do was take one pill every other day for two weeks, and then stop. I have tried to discontinue this a handful of times without any success. This time I am determined to be done with this. It does not help me and I don't want to take prescription medication that is unnecessary. I feel that that is not in the best interest of my health. I began tapering in early August . I got down to 7.5 mg every other day for a month and then stopped. By day four, the nausea set in. By day eight I was absolutely miserably sick nonfunctional. It was horrific!I had nausea headache , Brain fog, trembling muscle pain from being so tense. It hurt just to have someone touch me. I took 7.5 mg that night. Nothing the next night. Then 3.25 mg the next night. Nothing the following night. I am still having withdrawal symptoms mostly flu like symptoms diarrhea and trembling. I have brain fog as well I feel like I am an idiot LOL. I was never told that this medication caused severe withdrawal. I'm scared and I'm angry and I want to be done with this. Has anyone come off of Remeron long term and had their withdrawal symptoms go away? And how long do I have to be sick as a dog?
  18. Moderator note: Link to Nikki74's benzo thread: lexapro kindling akasthesia Mirtazipine diazepam Help. i recently stopped lexapro after a short taper from ten to five mg over 9 days. i had been on 20mg since 2011 then tapered quickly in June and stopped. This was a few weeks after stopping pregabalin 150mg v abruptly. all this time I was also on 15mg Mirtazipine. my anxiety went crazy and gp told me to double Mirtazipine dose to 30. I lasted 3 weeks of hellish symptoms and was put on diazepam and Zopiclone. im now off Zopiclone which was tough. 6 weeks ago GP told me to go back to 15mg Mirtazipine and add in 10mg lexapro. This didn't help so now have stopped lexapro three days ago but took 2.5 mg last night as am feeling withdrawal. gp wants me to start tapering diazepam as I'm getting worse akasthesia when it wears off or even a paradoxical reaction to it. i have akasthesia. Insomnia. Severe anxiety. Shaking. Muscle weakness. Obsessive thoughts and suicidal ideation as cannot go on like this. The only brief ride break I get is the 15mg Mirtazipine which calms me for 2-3 hours. How can I go on? i am a single mum and have CFS already for many years. do I stay off the Lexapro now? How do I cope with withdrawals, akasthesia, and tapering diazepam?? I take 7mg a day been on it three months. i can't stop in one place and am smoking (just tobacco) every half hour. i got sober in 2013. this is hell.
  19. Mickeymouse: Quick intro

    Hello all, Since ive been reading these forums ive come to the conclusion that my psychiatrists dont know jack about pills!! So a forum like this seems like my only option at the moment to really get reliable information, and im grateful that this platform exists. Ive been on mirtazapine 45mg for 1 year, and 15mg a year after that. And recently i wanted to quit, but that turned out to be freaking gnarly so i come here with questions that i will post in the tapering forum. Ive been reading up about psychiatric pills lately, and that combined with how my doc talks about tapering ( he recommended going from 15mg to 0mg in 2 weeks ) resulted in me just completely losing faith in pills and the so called professionals. ( 95% of them anyway ) Insomnia is the worst. The depressed feelings i feel i can handle a little bit, they are just really annoying but at the same time it makes me not care about anything when im depressed, including the fact that im actually depressed, if that makes sense. Ofcourse its crappy either way. Anyways, thats all for now, best of luck to all the fellow pill victims PS Ive read that the signature is important, do you put dates and stuff in there? Im not seeing any signatures from others?
  20. Hi everyone, I've been on and off a slew of drugs since having depression starting in March 2016. I'm in the U.K. so was treated by our NHS who initially put me on mirtazapine then when that didn't work they introduced me to prozac at 25mg and my anxiety went sky high. I'd been on and off prozac several times in the last 20 years but the reaction was horrific. To calm me down they put me on Diazepam at 15mg until I became so ill I was hospitalised for 2 weeks in May 2016. Prozac was withdrawn and replaced by Escitalopram which gave me the same severe reaction. To counter this I was put on Lyrica at 300mg and within 10 weeks became suicidal so I've just finished a taper from lyrica and am still suffering withdrawals after 8 weeks off the med. To try and counter my increasing depression lofepramine was prescribed along with Quetiapine at 150mg. The lofepramine did nothing so I tapered off of that but the quetiapine was kept in place by my shrink. My Lyrrica withdrawal was painful and my shrink added Dosulepin as an A/D. All this time I was kept on diazepam. I'm now trying to untangle this mess and am suffering badly with depression and anxiety and none of my medication appears to be helping. I've made the decision to get off of as many meds as I can and am unsure of the order in which to reduce them. I feel I've been the victim of psychiatry and any advice would be appreciated.
  21. Trying to come off 15mg mirtazapine. Cannot get a liquid form, and the pill is so small, how do you cut it? Thanks. I have been on it about 7-8 months.
  22. I have been in chronic pain for five years -- on and off various medication for five years (which never decreased my pain and did a number on my CNS). I can't tell what is a pain symptom, side effect or withdrawal at this point. You can see some history in my signature. My plan was to withdraw from Valium first, then Gabapentin, then Zoloft, but I've been tapering slowly off Gabapentin and Valium at the same time. I also made a jump from 25mgs of Zoloft to 12.5mg of Zoloft 8/10/17. I was only taking 25mg of Zoloft since 6/16/17, Then before that, 10mg Paxil from 2/16/ - 6/14/17, which I halved, stopped and switched to Zoloft. My quick withdrawals from ADs may be causing some side effects. Now I'm thinking since I stared Mirtazapine 7.5mg at night (which finally is enabling me to sleep), I should wean the Zoloft first (before the Valium). I would like to micro taper all three together. Comments please? Thanks, Medication Tapering Schedule.pdf
  23. Diehard: tapering

    Hello I am a 70 year old male! After 20 long years on Paxil 20mg and 3 years of Mirtazapine 15mg, for Dysthymia, I feel the need to start weaning off one of them, but which one? On comparing common side effects it appears the Mirtazapine could be the gremlin. It was prescribed to help me sleep but I still struggle so what's the point! I take both meds after my dinner at 7pm, but continue to snack till midnight. I feel emotionally and physically flat with all artistic passion out the window. I'm hoping my body would be better coping with just one poison! Any advice would be gratefully appreciated!
  24. Mod note Moved from http://survivingantidepressants.org/topic/5930-helpless-15-mg-mirtazapine/ Hi helpless. I also had worse experience with mirtazipine and wish I never took it. Been on countless meds over a 10 year period. Had bad experiences before and scary side effects but never lost who I was or my memories experiences etc. Mirtazipine did just that and I too have had overwhelmingly strong feeling of ending everything because I just don't feel myself anymore and not sure how long this is gona last. I don't take it anymore has been almost 2 months without it and still everything I have ever done or loved enjoyed experienced just feels like it was a blur and completely lost who I am and can't believe there is something so damaging out there that doctors gave me at first it was calming I slept well for first few days (before taking mirt I was on desvenlafaxine and felt too hyped up all the time like I was on speed) doctor suggested this and like I said at first it was fine then started to feel disconnected and disoriented, I didn't feel connected to my friends anymore had no interest in talking to anyone or doing anything at all then the tachycardia started, always as I was getting into deep sleep my heart would have scary bolts which caused my to jump out of bed and felt pain in my heart also, this went on for too long and started getting worse, doctor looked at me like a idiot and tried saying it couldn't do that, and then changed his mind said it can cause irregular heart rhythmia, but it got worse. I then reduced to 15mg and felt abit better at first but then started up again I was scared to go to sleep or even relax, I told doctor I refuse to go through this again as seroqual had given me similar symptons in the past and he suggested weening off the mirtazipine. Thats when I just lost everything I feel disconnected from life don't want to be around anymore I've never experienced this I don't have any sense of myself anymore my confidence is depleted I can barely walk into a shop anymore, I feel like its too late for me I cant even see anything changing yet I'm not on them anymore. I miss who I used to be. Would do anything to go back and never go down this path trusting my gp, he never even said a word about possible side effects. More I looked into mirtazipine found out they dont even know how it works but it is classed as atypical hallucegine ( why the f....ck would doctors give this to someone) I don't have any faith in professionals anymore they have ruined my life and my future. Found a better doctor that tried suggesting 25mg of seroqual and 50mg fluvoxatimine, I thought yes...I might actually be able to get past this, half hour after taking them I felt the heavy breathing and went into full on constant anxiety attack that lasted hours I thought it must just be a one off incident taking both at same time (as directed by stupid doctor) next day I tried taking fluvox first then seroqual it just got worst lasted longer and days I can't take antidepressants or antiphyscotics anymore I have a terrifying feeling from them now and I refuse to be on something so damaging. I'm left with constant anxiety and depression now which is unbareable, I feel like I'm gona stop breathing at times and sleeping has become fearful as I live on my own and worried I won't wake up. Only thing iv been able to do is take 5mg (half a tablet) of diazapam to calm me down a bit. Still everyday since mirtazipine wake up in tears and feel like I don't belong around anymore. What kind of sick people could create something like this and stupid doctors who say its safe how could this even still be aloud. Do not ever take mirtazipine it should be banned and removed the company who created it shoulld be held responsible.
  25. Hello, I need help to understand how this antidepressant work for anxiety. I am suffering from severe anxiety (suspected hyperadrenergic postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome - hyper pots) which causes my heart rate to increase by 30-50 beats per minute upon standing along with blood pressure increase, and so it's hard for even to even stand because of heart palpitations, fatigue, dizziness etc, and so i lay in my bed for 22-23 hours daily for 8 months, my muscles are GONE, i am only existing. Medicine history story in few sentences: after more than several heart tests year ago, they found nothing except mentioned sinus tachycardia episodes and high blood pressure when anxious, for example it was 170/90 with the heart rate of 120 just sittting and talking to cardiologist cuz of anxiety and body many posture changes, but it's in 40s when i sleep and it varies from 50s to 140s every hour during the day, which cardiologists think relates to anxiety. I decided to go to psychiatrist and so she saw severe anxiety and gave me ssri antidepressant escitalopram which made me a lot worse, my heart rate was 90-100 even when i wanted to go to sleep. Now she wants to put me on mirtazapine and i just can't understand how it can work because its serotonin and norepinephrine reuptaker, so how it will reduce my anxiety if i will have more norepinephrine in my blood, i thought they will block it, not increase it. This is a paradox that i fail to understand, what kind of treatment is that? I am scared that this will increase my anxiety/panic attacks/heart rate/blood pressure just like escitalopram. What were your experiences with it? Thank you!
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