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#253 Survivor1

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Posted 27 February 2017 - 11:27 AM

Thank you Marie,

 

I guess I need to hold a while more.  I'm actually OK with that; it's the worry whether I have an adverse reaction vs wd that I'm grappling with.  I hope holding doesn't hurt as that is what I plan to do for now.

 

Cheers


Klonopin: June 2014 - Sept 2015; 1mg tapered over 6 mths, withdrawal hellish

Naturethroid: 65 mcg

Seroquel:  June 14 - July 24, 25 mg alternate nights; July 25-30, 12mg most nights; Sept 1-12, no more than 10 mg for 7 nights. D/C Sept 12.  Severe wd., Dec 7  reinstate 2 mg, Dec 15 updosed to 5mg (not 10 mg as in post dated 12/12)

Trazodone: Oct 2015 - June 2016; 75 mg tapered over 2 mths, intense w/d Sx after 3 weeks. Reinstatement: 07/25 25 mg; 08/03 50mg;  10/01 62mg.

Mirtazepine: Nov 14 -17,2016 2.5mg; Nov 18-26 1.5mg to fight sedation; Nov 27-Dec 3  2.0 mg, Dec 4 updosed to 2.5, Dec 12 down to 2 mg again because of suspected serotonin syndrome (false alarm), upped again to 2.4 mg Dec 19 since withdrawal was fiercer than ever.

Supplements: Restarted fish oil and Mg 200mg 02/01/17

 

Synopsis:   Psych meds as of 12/19/2016 - Seroquel 5mg; Mirtazepine 2.4mg, Trazodone 62.5mg


#254 brassmonkey

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Posted 27 February 2017 - 08:05 PM

It's more than likely WD. An Adverse Reaction hits hard and fast, you would have know within hours of starting the updose if that was the case.


20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mg it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Current dose 0.008mg 03-17-2016

 

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#255 marie123

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Posted 01 March 2017 - 12:38 PM

So last night I forgot to take mirtazipine. I couldn't remember last night whether I took it or not and did not want to risk a double dose. I barely slept last night so I guess I did forget. I'm crazy tired but I did not have any fog today. I guess all along a lot of what I was feeling was mirt side effects of fogginess that lasted a good part of the day. Good to know. Tonight I will just take my regular dose.

 

I practiced for my cut of trazodone. First water titrating. Tried dissolving my dose in equal part of water (.006 g weight in 6 ml of water) and practiced with a syringe. Then weighing. I then crushed my dose of 1 mg  (.006 g weight) and divided it up with a blade in 6 small piles. I then cut those 6 piles in half. Now I can get a dose .0055 g. weight for my new dose by using one of those halves and weigh out .005 g. and using that too. I used a mirror.  I think that makes sense, at least to me. I'm writing this down here so I can refer back.

 

I get confused some with the decimals so correct me if I'm wrong. I don't want to switch to titrating because I'm just so sensitive still to the tiny cuts of trazodone.


10/13--10/14 Ambien   Done                                                                                  

3/14  7.5 Remeron  still taking this.                              

2/14         75 Trazodone   -    Tapered by dry cutting all the way down.

2/22/15    69 Traz

3/13/15    63 Traz

4/12/15    56 Traz

5/14/15    50 Traz

6/3/15      47 Traz

7/3/15      45 Traz

9/10/15    37 Traz

10/10/15  33 Traz, 10/24/15 30 mg 11/5/15 25 mg 11/20 12.5 mg 12/9/15 9 mg 12/22 6 mg 1/1/16 4 mg JUMPED.4/2/16 Rein 1 mg, 6/7/16 updose 2mg

8/13/16    1.1 Traz tapered from 2 mg, 10/26/16 1 mg Traz .92 mg CURRENT DOSE


#256 marie123

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 08:34 AM

Yesterday I felt pretty good. I went to the gym and had a nice workout. Felt some bladder symptoms in the evening and some spasms. I had great sleep the night before.

 

Last night I slept but it was much more restless with a couple of nightmares thown in. Today I feel pretty lousy, w/d lousy. I am definitely in a wave from the flu. My w/d symptoms have increased. I guess I need to ride it out for a while. The one thing I have now is clarity now that I am on low doses. I am starting to get angry, angry with pharma, doctors. etc. And no this is not a neuro emotion, I am pissed. I'm going to channel it into getting off these meds. The hell with them.

 

Marie


10/13--10/14 Ambien   Done                                                                                  

3/14  7.5 Remeron  still taking this.                              

2/14         75 Trazodone   -    Tapered by dry cutting all the way down.

2/22/15    69 Traz

3/13/15    63 Traz

4/12/15    56 Traz

5/14/15    50 Traz

6/3/15      47 Traz

7/3/15      45 Traz

9/10/15    37 Traz

10/10/15  33 Traz, 10/24/15 30 mg 11/5/15 25 mg 11/20 12.5 mg 12/9/15 9 mg 12/22 6 mg 1/1/16 4 mg JUMPED.4/2/16 Rein 1 mg, 6/7/16 updose 2mg

8/13/16    1.1 Traz tapered from 2 mg, 10/26/16 1 mg Traz .92 mg CURRENT DOSE


#257 Survivor1

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 05:32 PM

Marie,

 

I can't believe you are having wd this far out!  Hope it settles down for you and you can begin your tapering.

 

Cheers. 


Klonopin: June 2014 - Sept 2015; 1mg tapered over 6 mths, withdrawal hellish

Naturethroid: 65 mcg

Seroquel:  June 14 - July 24, 25 mg alternate nights; July 25-30, 12mg most nights; Sept 1-12, no more than 10 mg for 7 nights. D/C Sept 12.  Severe wd., Dec 7  reinstate 2 mg, Dec 15 updosed to 5mg (not 10 mg as in post dated 12/12)

Trazodone: Oct 2015 - June 2016; 75 mg tapered over 2 mths, intense w/d Sx after 3 weeks. Reinstatement: 07/25 25 mg; 08/03 50mg;  10/01 62mg.

Mirtazepine: Nov 14 -17,2016 2.5mg; Nov 18-26 1.5mg to fight sedation; Nov 27-Dec 3  2.0 mg, Dec 4 updosed to 2.5, Dec 12 down to 2 mg again because of suspected serotonin syndrome (false alarm), upped again to 2.4 mg Dec 19 since withdrawal was fiercer than ever.

Supplements: Restarted fish oil and Mg 200mg 02/01/17

 

Synopsis:   Psych meds as of 12/19/2016 - Seroquel 5mg; Mirtazepine 2.4mg, Trazodone 62.5mg


#258 marie123

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Posted 06 March 2017 - 04:42 PM

Big window today all day. I know what healing feels like. I finally got my strength back after the flu so it's time to go down in dose. I'll make a small cut tonight to bring me to about .92 mg of trazodone.

 

Marie


10/13--10/14 Ambien   Done                                                                                  

3/14  7.5 Remeron  still taking this.                              

2/14         75 Trazodone   -    Tapered by dry cutting all the way down.

2/22/15    69 Traz

3/13/15    63 Traz

4/12/15    56 Traz

5/14/15    50 Traz

6/3/15      47 Traz

7/3/15      45 Traz

9/10/15    37 Traz

10/10/15  33 Traz, 10/24/15 30 mg 11/5/15 25 mg 11/20 12.5 mg 12/9/15 9 mg 12/22 6 mg 1/1/16 4 mg JUMPED.4/2/16 Rein 1 mg, 6/7/16 updose 2mg

8/13/16    1.1 Traz tapered from 2 mg, 10/26/16 1 mg Traz .92 mg CURRENT DOSE


#259 marie123

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Posted 07 March 2017 - 10:14 AM

I feel pretty good today. The only symptom from the cut is that I am very tired from not sleeping well. I only got 4 1/2 hours sleep, but at least it was all in succession. This will even out as the days go on. If not I'll just have bedtime a half hour later. That seems to help regulate my sleep better and then after a week or so I'll move the time back.

 

Marie


10/13--10/14 Ambien   Done                                                                                  

3/14  7.5 Remeron  still taking this.                              

2/14         75 Trazodone   -    Tapered by dry cutting all the way down.

2/22/15    69 Traz

3/13/15    63 Traz

4/12/15    56 Traz

5/14/15    50 Traz

6/3/15      47 Traz

7/3/15      45 Traz

9/10/15    37 Traz

10/10/15  33 Traz, 10/24/15 30 mg 11/5/15 25 mg 11/20 12.5 mg 12/9/15 9 mg 12/22 6 mg 1/1/16 4 mg JUMPED.4/2/16 Rein 1 mg, 6/7/16 updose 2mg

8/13/16    1.1 Traz tapered from 2 mg, 10/26/16 1 mg Traz .92 mg CURRENT DOSE


#260 marie123

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 11:35 AM

An even better day than yesterday with more sleep at 5 1/2 hours. I feel a bit off and have some loose bowels, but otherwise healing is happening. This cut so far has been far better than my recent cuts. My slow descent off of traz will at least take all of 2017. That's fine though because I'll be done with it.

 

Marie


10/13--10/14 Ambien   Done                                                                                  

3/14  7.5 Remeron  still taking this.                              

2/14         75 Trazodone   -    Tapered by dry cutting all the way down.

2/22/15    69 Traz

3/13/15    63 Traz

4/12/15    56 Traz

5/14/15    50 Traz

6/3/15      47 Traz

7/3/15      45 Traz

9/10/15    37 Traz

10/10/15  33 Traz, 10/24/15 30 mg 11/5/15 25 mg 11/20 12.5 mg 12/9/15 9 mg 12/22 6 mg 1/1/16 4 mg JUMPED.4/2/16 Rein 1 mg, 6/7/16 updose 2mg

8/13/16    1.1 Traz tapered from 2 mg, 10/26/16 1 mg Traz .92 mg CURRENT DOSE


#261 Survivor1

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 02:40 PM

Good for you Marie.  Am rooting for you!


Klonopin: June 2014 - Sept 2015; 1mg tapered over 6 mths, withdrawal hellish

Naturethroid: 65 mcg

Seroquel:  June 14 - July 24, 25 mg alternate nights; July 25-30, 12mg most nights; Sept 1-12, no more than 10 mg for 7 nights. D/C Sept 12.  Severe wd., Dec 7  reinstate 2 mg, Dec 15 updosed to 5mg (not 10 mg as in post dated 12/12)

Trazodone: Oct 2015 - June 2016; 75 mg tapered over 2 mths, intense w/d Sx after 3 weeks. Reinstatement: 07/25 25 mg; 08/03 50mg;  10/01 62mg.

Mirtazepine: Nov 14 -17,2016 2.5mg; Nov 18-26 1.5mg to fight sedation; Nov 27-Dec 3  2.0 mg, Dec 4 updosed to 2.5, Dec 12 down to 2 mg again because of suspected serotonin syndrome (false alarm), upped again to 2.4 mg Dec 19 since withdrawal was fiercer than ever.

Supplements: Restarted fish oil and Mg 200mg 02/01/17

 

Synopsis:   Psych meds as of 12/19/2016 - Seroquel 5mg; Mirtazepine 2.4mg, Trazodone 62.5mg


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Posted 08 March 2017 - 06:47 PM

Good to read that you're getting a bit more sleep and that your reaction to the recent decrease is milder than before. Three cheers!


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Posted 09 March 2017 - 05:04 AM

Nice to read your positive update. I am happy for you!

March 15/2017: 3.75 zyprexa; January 16/2017: 6.25 mg; down from 10 mg December 2016
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#264 marie123

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 11:25 AM

Thanks folks for coming by with your support. Can't do this without you. Another big window day so that makes three days in a row after making a small cut. I had a nice workout at the gym and then some shopping without feeling like a sick alien lol. My brain must love less trazodone. This year I'm not stalling my taper unless I absolutely have to i.e. not for family stuff, events, etc. I must get off this stuff but I'll do it slowly, every 6 weeks with maybe a good pause at the tiniest of doses.

 

Good luck everyone.

 

Marie


10/13--10/14 Ambien   Done                                                                                  

3/14  7.5 Remeron  still taking this.                              

2/14         75 Trazodone   -    Tapered by dry cutting all the way down.

2/22/15    69 Traz

3/13/15    63 Traz

4/12/15    56 Traz

5/14/15    50 Traz

6/3/15      47 Traz

7/3/15      45 Traz

9/10/15    37 Traz

10/10/15  33 Traz, 10/24/15 30 mg 11/5/15 25 mg 11/20 12.5 mg 12/9/15 9 mg 12/22 6 mg 1/1/16 4 mg JUMPED.4/2/16 Rein 1 mg, 6/7/16 updose 2mg

8/13/16    1.1 Traz tapered from 2 mg, 10/26/16 1 mg Traz .92 mg CURRENT DOSE


#265 marie123

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Posted 16 March 2017 - 06:30 PM

It's been 10 days now of feeling good the whole day. Sleep is fine now. I'm hoping this is a turning point in my taper where my small cuts will be felt less and less. As long as I go very slow I should be successful. I'm an impatient person who learned to be patient. Wish me luck.

 

Marie


10/13--10/14 Ambien   Done                                                                                  

3/14  7.5 Remeron  still taking this.                              

2/14         75 Trazodone   -    Tapered by dry cutting all the way down.

2/22/15    69 Traz

3/13/15    63 Traz

4/12/15    56 Traz

5/14/15    50 Traz

6/3/15      47 Traz

7/3/15      45 Traz

9/10/15    37 Traz

10/10/15  33 Traz, 10/24/15 30 mg 11/5/15 25 mg 11/20 12.5 mg 12/9/15 9 mg 12/22 6 mg 1/1/16 4 mg JUMPED.4/2/16 Rein 1 mg, 6/7/16 updose 2mg

8/13/16    1.1 Traz tapered from 2 mg, 10/26/16 1 mg Traz .92 mg CURRENT DOSE


#266 marie123

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 05:32 PM

I'm getting some withdrawal from the taper. I fell asleep quickly last night but woke up around 4 AM and couldn't fall back to sleep. Just that would have been okay to deal with but my teeth starting hurting today. It's where I got the root canal and one tooth over got a filling. That was about 2 months ago. My sinuses sting a bit on the same side too. When I first got the work done it took a good month for it to start to calm down. I've read that withdrawal can flare up old surgical/root canal sites so I guess this is it.

 

I hope after a good night sleep tonight it will get better. Lately it's one night of very good sleep after a night of poor sleep. Well at least I had two weeks of feeling pretty good.

 

Marie


10/13--10/14 Ambien   Done                                                                                  

3/14  7.5 Remeron  still taking this.                              

2/14         75 Trazodone   -    Tapered by dry cutting all the way down.

2/22/15    69 Traz

3/13/15    63 Traz

4/12/15    56 Traz

5/14/15    50 Traz

6/3/15      47 Traz

7/3/15      45 Traz

9/10/15    37 Traz

10/10/15  33 Traz, 10/24/15 30 mg 11/5/15 25 mg 11/20 12.5 mg 12/9/15 9 mg 12/22 6 mg 1/1/16 4 mg JUMPED.4/2/16 Rein 1 mg, 6/7/16 updose 2mg

8/13/16    1.1 Traz tapered from 2 mg, 10/26/16 1 mg Traz .92 mg CURRENT DOSE


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Posted 21 March 2017 - 04:20 PM

Tooth pain for the second day. It's the spot where I had the filling done in the beginning of January. I'm not sure if this warrants a visit to the dentist, because before I made the traz cut it was feeling better for two weeks. I was in a nice window for sure. Nasty trazodone. I think I'll wait a week or so.

 

Other symptoms: blurry vision/fatigue even though I slept 7 hours

 

I am 29 months free of Ambien.

 

Marie


10/13--10/14 Ambien   Done                                                                                  

3/14  7.5 Remeron  still taking this.                              

2/14         75 Trazodone   -    Tapered by dry cutting all the way down.

2/22/15    69 Traz

3/13/15    63 Traz

4/12/15    56 Traz

5/14/15    50 Traz

6/3/15      47 Traz

7/3/15      45 Traz

9/10/15    37 Traz

10/10/15  33 Traz, 10/24/15 30 mg 11/5/15 25 mg 11/20 12.5 mg 12/9/15 9 mg 12/22 6 mg 1/1/16 4 mg JUMPED.4/2/16 Rein 1 mg, 6/7/16 updose 2mg

8/13/16    1.1 Traz tapered from 2 mg, 10/26/16 1 mg Traz .92 mg CURRENT DOSE


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Posted 21 March 2017 - 05:45 PM

I had broke a lower tooth in the fall. After the dentist filled/repaired it, I was surprised by how much time he took to file down the tooth above it. Apparently my lower tooth with one or two decades-old fillings broke from repeated pressure from the pointy upper one. I mention this only because the dental work you had in January may have created a similar problem.

Getting sleep with very low dose trazodone and no Ambien? Priceless!

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.
1997-1999 Effexor; 2002-2005 Effexor XR 37.5 mg linear taper, dropping same #beads/week with bad results
Cymbalta (brand name), 60 mg 2012 - 2015; 20 mg to 7 mg in 2016, taper details in this post;
2017: 7.0 (65 beads) Dec.10; 6.3 (58 beads) Feb. 1; 5.6 mg (52) Feb. 22;
Current dose: 5.4 mg (50 beads) 2017-Mar-15
+ Supplements: fish oil (1500 mg EPA/500 mg DHA), Vitamins: D3, K2, C; Minerals: Mg, Se, Cr, I, V
scallywag's Introduction Post
Online spreadsheet for dose taper calculations and nz11's THE WORKS spreadsheet






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