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#1 joannatm

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 10:11 PM

6 years ago had baby number 2. Ended up post natal. They put me on sertraline. Wasn't working on me great so eventually went up to 200mg. Since Dec 14 I tapered off. Finishing in April 15. I've been suffering with anxiety and tears negative thoughts ever since. In waves and windows. Now nearing 7 months and going through a wave if tears last week and this. I feel maybe I should go back on but my heart of hearts and also hubby and friends say stick it out as I have good days too. Mornings are bad at times.


May 2003 prozac for six months after having first child. Came off taper slow. No withdrawals.
December 2009 10mg citalopram after second child.
January 2010 up to 20mg kinda helped. Not much.
July 2010 taper off within a month.
Side affects of tiredness tears. Doctor said I depressed still.
Oct 2010 Went back doctor they put me on sertraline 20mg and went to cbt therapy. Doctor kept upping it as wasn't feeling better to 200mg.
December 2014 felt better started to reduce by 4 tablets to 3 then to 2 then 1 and half. Four five weeks gap between. Stopped at 25mg in April 2015.7 months no meds.

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 10:26 PM

Hi Joannatm
Welcome to SA. I'm sorry to hear you have been struggling so much. Everyone here know what it's like being on these terrible drugs and what it's like trying to come off them. If you hang on tight a mod should be with you soon :)

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SupplementsFish oil 4000mgMagnesium 100mg Niacinamide 1000mgSlippery Elm 800mg , B12 1000mcg, Zinc 50mg, B6 100mg, Vitamin D 2000IU, Calcium 1200mgP5P 100mg, Vitamin C 2000mg, Vitamin E 400IU

 


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Posted 07 October 2015 - 01:31 AM

Hello Joannatm and welcome to SA.

 

Many of us here, myself included have been through what you are describing. Some of us many times not understanding what went wrong.

 

I believe the links I will post for you will answer many of your questions. It seems you have been taking quite a large dose of Sertraline (200 mg) for 6 years. Could you add more details about your drug history in your signature as described here:  Please put your withdrawal history in your signature     

 

 

Since you have periods when you feel better (windows) and since it's been almost six months since your last dose I wouldn't reinstate. It seems also that you didn't have a prior history with psychotropic medication or taken more drugs which should all make it easier for your brain to remodel itself to functioning without the drug.

 It might take months for the symptoms to gradually lessen in intensity but you will get there.

 

As I said, it seems you are experiencing this: The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization

 

as a result of going through What is withdrawal syndrome?

 

There are many ideas that help us deal with particular symptoms in our Symptoms and self-care section.

 

Many people do better with fish oil and magnesium supplements, see
http://survivinganti...acids-fish-oil/
http://survivinganti...hannel-blocker/

 

Let us know how you are doing.

 

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Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 (19 yrs)
1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg.
2000.-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg
went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days after
reinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding, significant relief after 2 weeks
9.11. introduced liquid Xanax: 0.4 mg every 5 hours including a night dose

28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr  2015 1 mg,  25 June Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6 and 1 Jan 2016 0.64  Xanax

9 month hold

24 Sept 4.​5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4

Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic 

I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. 


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Posted 07 October 2015 - 04:00 AM

Welcome 'joannatm'


Sertraline 100mg amytrip 60mg diazepam 4mg (and when needed) since late 90's.Reduced all meds over 6 wks (too short) last doses 13 wks ago.Still having withdrawals.I would have done it differently
5th august 2015 reinstated 5mg amytripiline.increased to 10mg amtrip 9th sept 2015.

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 01:18 PM

Thanks so much for advice and links. It's kinda nice to know others feel the same in a strange way. I think some days I feel alone but I not. I keep thinking I should be back to norm happy with life my family friends work fub etc but I feel so distant like I'm outside looking in. It scares me. That I can't believe kids are mine like they are strangers some days. I'm very close to them and push those feelings aside but feel them lurking. Hate this feeling. I feel I'm missing out on every moment of their lives feeling this negative. I was never like this. This week I'm so tearful it's horrible. I hate getting up in mornings as feel anxious and negative thoughts start up especially weekends. Sorry to go on. I frustrated as think this is me now and that's it get used to it! Too frightened to go doctors as feel they put me on more drugs.
May 2003 prozac for six months after having first child. Came off taper slow. No withdrawals.
December 2009 10mg citalopram after second child.
January 2010 up to 20mg kinda helped. Not much.
July 2010 taper off within a month.
Side affects of tiredness tears. Doctor said I depressed still.
Oct 2010 Went back doctor they put me on sertraline 20mg and went to cbt therapy. Doctor kept upping it as wasn't feeling better to 200mg.
December 2014 felt better started to reduce by 4 tablets to 3 then to 2 then 1 and half. Four five weeks gap between. Stopped at 25mg in April 2015.7 months no meds.

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 02:07 PM

Welcome, joanna.

 

Your feelings are "normal" for withdrawal syndrome, which will very gradually fade over time. Please look around our Symptoms and Self-care forum  http://survivinganti...-and-self-care/for suggestions about how to cope with symptoms, including emotional ones.

 

Many people do better with fish oil and magnesium supplements, see
http://survivinganti...acids-fish-oil/
http://survivinganti...hannel-blocker/
 


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Posted 07 October 2015 - 02:18 PM

Thank you so very much. I will have a good read. I'm taking Berrocca at mo as got recommended. So pleased found your site. X
May 2003 prozac for six months after having first child. Came off taper slow. No withdrawals.
December 2009 10mg citalopram after second child.
January 2010 up to 20mg kinda helped. Not much.
July 2010 taper off within a month.
Side affects of tiredness tears. Doctor said I depressed still.
Oct 2010 Went back doctor they put me on sertraline 20mg and went to cbt therapy. Doctor kept upping it as wasn't feeling better to 200mg.
December 2014 felt better started to reduce by 4 tablets to 3 then to 2 then 1 and half. Four five weeks gap between. Stopped at 25mg in April 2015.7 months no meds.

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 11:13 AM

Hi joannatm! You and I jumped off about the same time.  What you are feeling is completely normal.  We are in month 7 and to think this is STILL going on is very very taxing on our mind and soul.  I tried chelated magnesium Last Sun through Tues and then on Fri I got very very very bad symptom-wise....like back to acute.  I also go a cold that day, too, and for the past 4 days I have been in misery with hyperarousal, extreme anxiety (more than my usual awful withdrawal anxiety), internal vibrations, fizzling head, etc....  I don't know what caused it (magnesium or cold), or if is just a natural wave, but if you start experimenting with supplements be very very careful and take a very small dose.  Our systems are still super sensitive right now.


<p><p>Started getting panic attacks mid-Dec and was told to take Xanax when I got an attack. After four days I was scared of the Xanax, so I tried Zoloft 25mg for one week (adverse reaction - extreme anxiety and felt like I was on an amphetamine). Dr. said to quit cold turkey, so I not only quit Zoloft but also 2 weeks of Xanax .25mg -- extreme dizziness, hyperarousal and anxiety began! On Jan. 29, 2015 my psychiatrist put me on new stuff and this is how my next 2 months and 7 days looked like (I was having the same bad reactions to all of these):Effexor XR 37.5mg (3 days) - throwing up, heart palpations, night tremors/convulsions or something where whole body shakes for a secondProzac 10mg (15 days) - dizziness went away in week 2, so I know now it was withdrawal after Zoloft, ugh!!!!Prozac 20mg (7 days) - internal restlessness, electric current through body/brain (not zaps), agitation, intense fear and could no longer nap at this point (still can't today because of this)Lexapro 5mg (4 days) - same as Prozac, a horror show...extreme internal agitationLexapro 7.5mg (2 days)Lexapro 10mg (16 days)Zoloft 12.5mg (3 days)...she said try it again since my blood relative does well on it.Zoloft 25mg (7 days) - same as before and getting worse!!Zoloft 50mg (6 days)<p>Zoloft 25mg (4 days and then came off cold turkey on April 8, 2015). I used Xanax .25mg about 7 times per month through all of this until June 30th (my last dose). I am 21 months off SSRIs as of Jan. 8, 2017 and 18 months off benzos as of Dec 30 and I have had tiny windows. Extreme anxiety, nervous system traumatized, mental akathisia, anger triggered by nothing but the brain totally going off on its own, feeling of a pressurized electric current going through me like my brain and body are trying to explode, can't regulate emotions, waking in terror lasting all day, fear, very sensitive, brain can't keep up, don't know what to do with myself, electrical dizziness, feeling like everything is going too fast and I can't keep up, helium head, deep depression like something is ripping out my soul, out of my mind, can hardly drive or be alone, cognitive issues, simple tasks are so complex and straining, feel disturbed because the brain can't process anything right even though your brain tries so hard and it makes you go mad, episodes of deep anguish with a sick toxic poison feeling (like you have some unknown virus).


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Posted 12 October 2015 - 09:44 PM

Hey Joannatm - welcome to SA!

 

Here you will find people who have experienced better and worse outcomes than yourself.

 

So many women come in here because doctors apparently have no understanding of the nutritional needs of mothers - so many women end up on the drugs in a post-natal condition which may have been corrected through other means (such as nutrition, thyroid, or even enzyme supplements).

 

Berocca may be overstimulating for you.  It's got a bunch of B Vitamins and such - that to a healthy person might be just right - but to a person in withdrawal could emphasize your symptoms, and make your recovery more rocky.  You need calming things, like magnesium (please read the links above - the magnesium at most chemists is Mag Oxide, which is about as good as chewing rocks!), quiet, dark, rest.  Lemon balm tea might be good for you.  

 

Here is how withdrawal works (as described by Our Rhi of SA):  Rhi's description of healing the brain

So it is important that you be gentle and patient with yourself.  

 

So are you downunder?  (I ask because Berocca is really common here, hubby loves the stuff)

 

Again, welcome!  And I hope you saw the sun today (we are getting ready to rain on the right coast!).


"Easy, easy - just go easy and you'll finish." - Hawaiian Kapuna

 

Holding is hard work, holding is a blessing. Give your brain time to heal before you try again.

 

My suggestions are not medical advice, you are in charge of your own medical choices.

 

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Currently Lithium Orotate 1.67 mg only.  I will re-evaluate this supplement in 2017.

 

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Posted 13 October 2015 - 11:21 AM

Hi everyone

Thanks such for advice and chats. Keep strong we will get through it. Can't believe how many are going through same symptoms I've had five kinda good days. Yesterday back to norm then today 3 pm I started to have negative thoughts and feeling anxious and sad and bored feeling. Thing is I'm too busy to be bored so can't understand why these thoughts came into head. I'm also having bad pmt pains to go with it so that don't help.i also find colds make me feel worse and I too have one.
I'm from UK and we into it too. My new Zealand friend recommended it too. Feel it helps. I check out websites. Big thanks. Keep strong. Xx
May 2003 prozac for six months after having first child. Came off taper slow. No withdrawals.
December 2009 10mg citalopram after second child.
January 2010 up to 20mg kinda helped. Not much.
July 2010 taper off within a month.
Side affects of tiredness tears. Doctor said I depressed still.
Oct 2010 Went back doctor they put me on sertraline 20mg and went to cbt therapy. Doctor kept upping it as wasn't feeling better to 200mg.
December 2014 felt better started to reduce by 4 tablets to 3 then to 2 then 1 and half. Four five weeks gap between. Stopped at 25mg in April 2015.7 months no meds.

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Posted 13 October 2015 - 10:57 PM

Hi kt38 how you feeling today. Hope coming out of wave. I wake up and try not to think about how I feel but it just comes into my head. So annoying. Mornings are worse

Thanks for advice everyone. x
May 2003 prozac for six months after having first child. Came off taper slow. No withdrawals.
December 2009 10mg citalopram after second child.
January 2010 up to 20mg kinda helped. Not much.
July 2010 taper off within a month.
Side affects of tiredness tears. Doctor said I depressed still.
Oct 2010 Went back doctor they put me on sertraline 20mg and went to cbt therapy. Doctor kept upping it as wasn't feeling better to 200mg.
December 2014 felt better started to reduce by 4 tablets to 3 then to 2 then 1 and half. Four five weeks gap between. Stopped at 25mg in April 2015.7 months no meds.

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Posted 14 October 2015 - 04:41 AM

I'm still having a bad time.  I think I definitely have akathisia, but the internal kind....not the movement part -- agitation , sensations of movement and pressure , electrical surges/current in different parts of the body and a sense of dread and terror. 


<p><p>Started getting panic attacks mid-Dec and was told to take Xanax when I got an attack. After four days I was scared of the Xanax, so I tried Zoloft 25mg for one week (adverse reaction - extreme anxiety and felt like I was on an amphetamine). Dr. said to quit cold turkey, so I not only quit Zoloft but also 2 weeks of Xanax .25mg -- extreme dizziness, hyperarousal and anxiety began! On Jan. 29, 2015 my psychiatrist put me on new stuff and this is how my next 2 months and 7 days looked like (I was having the same bad reactions to all of these):Effexor XR 37.5mg (3 days) - throwing up, heart palpations, night tremors/convulsions or something where whole body shakes for a secondProzac 10mg (15 days) - dizziness went away in week 2, so I know now it was withdrawal after Zoloft, ugh!!!!Prozac 20mg (7 days) - internal restlessness, electric current through body/brain (not zaps), agitation, intense fear and could no longer nap at this point (still can't today because of this)Lexapro 5mg (4 days) - same as Prozac, a horror show...extreme internal agitationLexapro 7.5mg (2 days)Lexapro 10mg (16 days)Zoloft 12.5mg (3 days)...she said try it again since my blood relative does well on it.Zoloft 25mg (7 days) - same as before and getting worse!!Zoloft 50mg (6 days)<p>Zoloft 25mg (4 days and then came off cold turkey on April 8, 2015). I used Xanax .25mg about 7 times per month through all of this until June 30th (my last dose). I am 21 months off SSRIs as of Jan. 8, 2017 and 18 months off benzos as of Dec 30 and I have had tiny windows. Extreme anxiety, nervous system traumatized, mental akathisia, anger triggered by nothing but the brain totally going off on its own, feeling of a pressurized electric current going through me like my brain and body are trying to explode, can't regulate emotions, waking in terror lasting all day, fear, very sensitive, brain can't keep up, don't know what to do with myself, electrical dizziness, feeling like everything is going too fast and I can't keep up, helium head, deep depression like something is ripping out my soul, out of my mind, can hardly drive or be alone, cognitive issues, simple tasks are so complex and straining, feel disturbed because the brain can't process anything right even though your brain tries so hard and it makes you go mad, episodes of deep anguish with a sick toxic poison feeling (like you have some unknown virus).


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Posted 14 October 2015 - 11:46 AM

That's awful for you. Will it eventually fade? I have dreaded feelings and some feelings of being outside a bubble looking in at my family. Sometimes feel I not my sons mother. Can't properly explain. But it upsets me thinking like that weird thoughts feelings. I also get very anxious at times and can't sit down. Worse on mornings. Do hope it all fades x
May 2003 prozac for six months after having first child. Came off taper slow. No withdrawals.
December 2009 10mg citalopram after second child.
January 2010 up to 20mg kinda helped. Not much.
July 2010 taper off within a month.
Side affects of tiredness tears. Doctor said I depressed still.
Oct 2010 Went back doctor they put me on sertraline 20mg and went to cbt therapy. Doctor kept upping it as wasn't feeling better to 200mg.
December 2014 felt better started to reduce by 4 tablets to 3 then to 2 then 1 and half. Four five weeks gap between. Stopped at 25mg in April 2015.7 months no meds.

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 01:38 PM

Blooming awful day today. Tears and anxiety. Hating this feeling x
May 2003 prozac for six months after having first child. Came off taper slow. No withdrawals.
December 2009 10mg citalopram after second child.
January 2010 up to 20mg kinda helped. Not much.
July 2010 taper off within a month.
Side affects of tiredness tears. Doctor said I depressed still.
Oct 2010 Went back doctor they put me on sertraline 20mg and went to cbt therapy. Doctor kept upping it as wasn't feeling better to 200mg.
December 2014 felt better started to reduce by 4 tablets to 3 then to 2 then 1 and half. Four five weeks gap between. Stopped at 25mg in April 2015.7 months no meds.

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 01:46 PM

I hope it fades!  Sorry to hear you had a bad day.   I am trying to see this as a wave and to know to even call it a wave is HUGE.  This was CONSTANT the first few months, so I must have had some improvement and not realize it.   I hope your day is MUCH better tomorrow!! Hang in there!!!  You were very smart to taper. 


<p><p>Started getting panic attacks mid-Dec and was told to take Xanax when I got an attack. After four days I was scared of the Xanax, so I tried Zoloft 25mg for one week (adverse reaction - extreme anxiety and felt like I was on an amphetamine). Dr. said to quit cold turkey, so I not only quit Zoloft but also 2 weeks of Xanax .25mg -- extreme dizziness, hyperarousal and anxiety began! On Jan. 29, 2015 my psychiatrist put me on new stuff and this is how my next 2 months and 7 days looked like (I was having the same bad reactions to all of these):Effexor XR 37.5mg (3 days) - throwing up, heart palpations, night tremors/convulsions or something where whole body shakes for a secondProzac 10mg (15 days) - dizziness went away in week 2, so I know now it was withdrawal after Zoloft, ugh!!!!Prozac 20mg (7 days) - internal restlessness, electric current through body/brain (not zaps), agitation, intense fear and could no longer nap at this point (still can't today because of this)Lexapro 5mg (4 days) - same as Prozac, a horror show...extreme internal agitationLexapro 7.5mg (2 days)Lexapro 10mg (16 days)Zoloft 12.5mg (3 days)...she said try it again since my blood relative does well on it.Zoloft 25mg (7 days) - same as before and getting worse!!Zoloft 50mg (6 days)<p>Zoloft 25mg (4 days and then came off cold turkey on April 8, 2015). I used Xanax .25mg about 7 times per month through all of this until June 30th (my last dose). I am 21 months off SSRIs as of Jan. 8, 2017 and 18 months off benzos as of Dec 30 and I have had tiny windows. Extreme anxiety, nervous system traumatized, mental akathisia, anger triggered by nothing but the brain totally going off on its own, feeling of a pressurized electric current going through me like my brain and body are trying to explode, can't regulate emotions, waking in terror lasting all day, fear, very sensitive, brain can't keep up, don't know what to do with myself, electrical dizziness, feeling like everything is going too fast and I can't keep up, helium head, deep depression like something is ripping out my soul, out of my mind, can hardly drive or be alone, cognitive issues, simple tasks are so complex and straining, feel disturbed because the brain can't process anything right even though your brain tries so hard and it makes you go mad, episodes of deep anguish with a sick toxic poison feeling (like you have some unknown virus).


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Posted 17 October 2015 - 05:44 AM

Another tearful and anxious day for no reason. Very tired too. But I find just after pmt I get like this lately for a good week. How you getting on? Hoping you coming out of wave. Can the waves come and go frequently on a weekly basis? I keep thinking now this is me and I got to live and get used to being up and down all time. Too scared to ho back doctors as don't want to touch any more AD. x
May 2003 prozac for six months after having first child. Came off taper slow. No withdrawals.
December 2009 10mg citalopram after second child.
January 2010 up to 20mg kinda helped. Not much.
July 2010 taper off within a month.
Side affects of tiredness tears. Doctor said I depressed still.
Oct 2010 Went back doctor they put me on sertraline 20mg and went to cbt therapy. Doctor kept upping it as wasn't feeling better to 200mg.
December 2014 felt better started to reduce by 4 tablets to 3 then to 2 then 1 and half. Four five weeks gap between. Stopped at 25mg in April 2015.7 months no meds.

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Posted 17 October 2015 - 07:40 AM

Yes, I am bad the day of my period (very dizzy, too) until at least a week after it stops.  I am still in my massive wave, but hear it's normal to get slammed around this mark for some reason.  I have been on a consistent wave the whole time (I had an adverse reaction to the meds, so it's part that), but have had tiny windows.  Waves and windows are so unpredictable as well as how long they last.  This wave now I am smart enough to call a wave so it shows I guess I have had SOME improvement if I can distinguish this...or it just means I'm getting worse.  Who knows.  Just keep holding on for the ride.  I know we have kids and responsibilities, but please make sure your other half can do a lot of tasks.  I still can't leave the house alone.  I know if I'm doing a little better if I can feel for my kids and family and be there for their needs.  The other times I am literally too out of my mind in mental and physical craziness I have to buckle down and just try to keep myself alive.  That is why it's so important for me to have my husband work from home.  I'm a bad case.


<p><p>Started getting panic attacks mid-Dec and was told to take Xanax when I got an attack. After four days I was scared of the Xanax, so I tried Zoloft 25mg for one week (adverse reaction - extreme anxiety and felt like I was on an amphetamine). Dr. said to quit cold turkey, so I not only quit Zoloft but also 2 weeks of Xanax .25mg -- extreme dizziness, hyperarousal and anxiety began! On Jan. 29, 2015 my psychiatrist put me on new stuff and this is how my next 2 months and 7 days looked like (I was having the same bad reactions to all of these):Effexor XR 37.5mg (3 days) - throwing up, heart palpations, night tremors/convulsions or something where whole body shakes for a secondProzac 10mg (15 days) - dizziness went away in week 2, so I know now it was withdrawal after Zoloft, ugh!!!!Prozac 20mg (7 days) - internal restlessness, electric current through body/brain (not zaps), agitation, intense fear and could no longer nap at this point (still can't today because of this)Lexapro 5mg (4 days) - same as Prozac, a horror show...extreme internal agitationLexapro 7.5mg (2 days)Lexapro 10mg (16 days)Zoloft 12.5mg (3 days)...she said try it again since my blood relative does well on it.Zoloft 25mg (7 days) - same as before and getting worse!!Zoloft 50mg (6 days)<p>Zoloft 25mg (4 days and then came off cold turkey on April 8, 2015). I used Xanax .25mg about 7 times per month through all of this until June 30th (my last dose). I am 21 months off SSRIs as of Jan. 8, 2017 and 18 months off benzos as of Dec 30 and I have had tiny windows. Extreme anxiety, nervous system traumatized, mental akathisia, anger triggered by nothing but the brain totally going off on its own, feeling of a pressurized electric current going through me like my brain and body are trying to explode, can't regulate emotions, waking in terror lasting all day, fear, very sensitive, brain can't keep up, don't know what to do with myself, electrical dizziness, feeling like everything is going too fast and I can't keep up, helium head, deep depression like something is ripping out my soul, out of my mind, can hardly drive or be alone, cognitive issues, simple tasks are so complex and straining, feel disturbed because the brain can't process anything right even though your brain tries so hard and it makes you go mad, episodes of deep anguish with a sick toxic poison feeling (like you have some unknown virus).


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Posted 18 October 2015 - 02:48 PM

It sounds like you have a very supportive hubby and children. Makes a big difference. Also looks like it's a slow process for you too and try be positive that you do have the odd windows now. Keep strong my dear xx
May 2003 prozac for six months after having first child. Came off taper slow. No withdrawals.
December 2009 10mg citalopram after second child.
January 2010 up to 20mg kinda helped. Not much.
July 2010 taper off within a month.
Side affects of tiredness tears. Doctor said I depressed still.
Oct 2010 Went back doctor they put me on sertraline 20mg and went to cbt therapy. Doctor kept upping it as wasn't feeling better to 200mg.
December 2014 felt better started to reduce by 4 tablets to 3 then to 2 then 1 and half. Four five weeks gap between. Stopped at 25mg in April 2015.7 months no meds.

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Posted 27 October 2015 - 12:13 PM

How ya doing kt38? I've had two good weeks and the odd bad day. Hoping window gets longer. Xx
May 2003 prozac for six months after having first child. Came off taper slow. No withdrawals.
December 2009 10mg citalopram after second child.
January 2010 up to 20mg kinda helped. Not much.
July 2010 taper off within a month.
Side affects of tiredness tears. Doctor said I depressed still.
Oct 2010 Went back doctor they put me on sertraline 20mg and went to cbt therapy. Doctor kept upping it as wasn't feeling better to 200mg.
December 2014 felt better started to reduce by 4 tablets to 3 then to 2 then 1 and half. Four five weeks gap between. Stopped at 25mg in April 2015.7 months no meds.

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Posted 28 October 2015 - 05:32 AM

I had 3 better days (not as mental or had a couple hours where I was and then wasn't)....today is extreme depression with that sinking feeling in your stomach and that you are all alone in the world that makes you want to cry for no reason.   I feel that my symptoms change constantly, but are usually always never good ugh (dizziness, anxiety, panic, mind blankness, depression, etc...).  The only good thing out of this is that I sleep pretty awesome at night.  I wish I could nap again. That is great you had a good 2 weeks!!!!!!   Does it seem like everything is waxing and waning more for you?  Do you ever have any days with no symptoms at all?


<p><p>Started getting panic attacks mid-Dec and was told to take Xanax when I got an attack. After four days I was scared of the Xanax, so I tried Zoloft 25mg for one week (adverse reaction - extreme anxiety and felt like I was on an amphetamine). Dr. said to quit cold turkey, so I not only quit Zoloft but also 2 weeks of Xanax .25mg -- extreme dizziness, hyperarousal and anxiety began! On Jan. 29, 2015 my psychiatrist put me on new stuff and this is how my next 2 months and 7 days looked like (I was having the same bad reactions to all of these):Effexor XR 37.5mg (3 days) - throwing up, heart palpations, night tremors/convulsions or something where whole body shakes for a secondProzac 10mg (15 days) - dizziness went away in week 2, so I know now it was withdrawal after Zoloft, ugh!!!!Prozac 20mg (7 days) - internal restlessness, electric current through body/brain (not zaps), agitation, intense fear and could no longer nap at this point (still can't today because of this)Lexapro 5mg (4 days) - same as Prozac, a horror show...extreme internal agitationLexapro 7.5mg (2 days)Lexapro 10mg (16 days)Zoloft 12.5mg (3 days)...she said try it again since my blood relative does well on it.Zoloft 25mg (7 days) - same as before and getting worse!!Zoloft 50mg (6 days)<p>Zoloft 25mg (4 days and then came off cold turkey on April 8, 2015). I used Xanax .25mg about 7 times per month through all of this until June 30th (my last dose). I am 21 months off SSRIs as of Jan. 8, 2017 and 18 months off benzos as of Dec 30 and I have had tiny windows. Extreme anxiety, nervous system traumatized, mental akathisia, anger triggered by nothing but the brain totally going off on its own, feeling of a pressurized electric current going through me like my brain and body are trying to explode, can't regulate emotions, waking in terror lasting all day, fear, very sensitive, brain can't keep up, don't know what to do with myself, electrical dizziness, feeling like everything is going too fast and I can't keep up, helium head, deep depression like something is ripping out my soul, out of my mind, can hardly drive or be alone, cognitive issues, simple tasks are so complex and straining, feel disturbed because the brain can't process anything right even though your brain tries so hard and it makes you go mad, episodes of deep anguish with a sick toxic poison feeling (like you have some unknown virus).


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Posted 28 October 2015 - 05:49 AM

That's terrific that you are having windows joannatm!  It's a "normal" withdrawal pattern (as if anything about these drugs is "normal!")

 

Here's how others experience Waves and Windows

 

Each window you have shows that systems are coming "back online."  It's a very complicated repair, the brain and nervous system, and parts of it will come online for testing, then may go away again while other systems are repairing.  

 

Be gentle and patient with yourself.  You can do this.


"Easy, easy - just go easy and you'll finish." - Hawaiian Kapuna

 

Holding is hard work, holding is a blessing. Give your brain time to heal before you try again.

 

My suggestions are not medical advice, you are in charge of your own medical choices.

 

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Currently Lithium Orotate 1.67 mg only.  I will re-evaluate this supplement in 2017.

 

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Posted 29 October 2015 - 01:07 AM

I had quite a few days no symptoms but last few days feel anxious negative thoughts etc again. Gutted as get hopes up and then feel awful. Do feel for you kt38 not getting much let up. At least you've had few days that's a start. Xxxxx
May 2003 prozac for six months after having first child. Came off taper slow. No withdrawals.
December 2009 10mg citalopram after second child.
January 2010 up to 20mg kinda helped. Not much.
July 2010 taper off within a month.
Side affects of tiredness tears. Doctor said I depressed still.
Oct 2010 Went back doctor they put me on sertraline 20mg and went to cbt therapy. Doctor kept upping it as wasn't feeling better to 200mg.
December 2014 felt better started to reduce by 4 tablets to 3 then to 2 then 1 and half. Four five weeks gap between. Stopped at 25mg in April 2015.7 months no meds.

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Posted 29 October 2015 - 08:16 AM

Hi Joanna - it's good you had a few days with little symptoms. Cherish those days.

 

I came off Sertraline as well and then, months later, I've had to reinstate with Citalopram.

 

I know just how you feel - the anxiousness and negative thoughts are difficult to overcome. I had one of those days yesterday and I was unable to go to work.

 

As difficult as it is, try to take it a day at a time. Go to sleep each night with the hope that the next morning will be a window.

 

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Posted 29 October 2015 - 12:13 PM

So going back on tablets you think helped? I really don't want to go back on them. I just have such negative thoughts and loneliness when I not lonely. Drives me made and frustrated. I have no enthusiasm to do anything last day or two. X
May 2003 prozac for six months after having first child. Came off taper slow. No withdrawals.
December 2009 10mg citalopram after second child.
January 2010 up to 20mg kinda helped. Not much.
July 2010 taper off within a month.
Side affects of tiredness tears. Doctor said I depressed still.
Oct 2010 Went back doctor they put me on sertraline 20mg and went to cbt therapy. Doctor kept upping it as wasn't feeling better to 200mg.
December 2014 felt better started to reduce by 4 tablets to 3 then to 2 then 1 and half. Four five weeks gap between. Stopped at 25mg in April 2015.7 months no meds.

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Posted 29 October 2015 - 01:07 PM

Hello, joanna.

 

Taking a very small amount of sertraline, perhaps even 1mg, might help. See Tips for tapering off Zoloft (sertraline) for instructions about how to take a very small dose. You would take this for a while and taper off by tiny amounts later.


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Posted 30 October 2015 - 02:27 AM

It's just I feel I've come this far I really don't fancy going back on them. I'm just so frustrated. I will keep going as I know I have windows and a lot more windows. I wasn't good on sertraline felt rubbish on them x
May 2003 prozac for six months after having first child. Came off taper slow. No withdrawals.
December 2009 10mg citalopram after second child.
January 2010 up to 20mg kinda helped. Not much.
July 2010 taper off within a month.
Side affects of tiredness tears. Doctor said I depressed still.
Oct 2010 Went back doctor they put me on sertraline 20mg and went to cbt therapy. Doctor kept upping it as wasn't feeling better to 200mg.
December 2014 felt better started to reduce by 4 tablets to 3 then to 2 then 1 and half. Four five weeks gap between. Stopped at 25mg in April 2015.7 months no meds.

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Posted 08 November 2015 - 01:38 AM

How's things going kt38? Hope you are having more windows now? X
May 2003 prozac for six months after having first child. Came off taper slow. No withdrawals.
December 2009 10mg citalopram after second child.
January 2010 up to 20mg kinda helped. Not much.
July 2010 taper off within a month.
Side affects of tiredness tears. Doctor said I depressed still.
Oct 2010 Went back doctor they put me on sertraline 20mg and went to cbt therapy. Doctor kept upping it as wasn't feeling better to 200mg.
December 2014 felt better started to reduce by 4 tablets to 3 then to 2 then 1 and half. Four five weeks gap between. Stopped at 25mg in April 2015.7 months no meds.

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Posted 08 November 2015 - 07:04 AM

Hi! I'm doing very bad.....things took a turn for the worse the beginning of Nov.  Worse than acute...anxiety in every nerve in my body being pushed by electric currents and super hyperarousal and hypersensitivity (more than before which is scaring me). I'm afraid of losing it and morphing into a werewolf all day everyday.  And now more pressure than ever in my head and my brain trips out sometimes.  I heard it can get worse around this time (7 months off) so I am just hunkering down the best I can.  I hope you keep improving!  I bet you will be out of this mess by month 10 or 12.


<p><p>Started getting panic attacks mid-Dec and was told to take Xanax when I got an attack. After four days I was scared of the Xanax, so I tried Zoloft 25mg for one week (adverse reaction - extreme anxiety and felt like I was on an amphetamine). Dr. said to quit cold turkey, so I not only quit Zoloft but also 2 weeks of Xanax .25mg -- extreme dizziness, hyperarousal and anxiety began! On Jan. 29, 2015 my psychiatrist put me on new stuff and this is how my next 2 months and 7 days looked like (I was having the same bad reactions to all of these):Effexor XR 37.5mg (3 days) - throwing up, heart palpations, night tremors/convulsions or something where whole body shakes for a secondProzac 10mg (15 days) - dizziness went away in week 2, so I know now it was withdrawal after Zoloft, ugh!!!!Prozac 20mg (7 days) - internal restlessness, electric current through body/brain (not zaps), agitation, intense fear and could no longer nap at this point (still can't today because of this)Lexapro 5mg (4 days) - same as Prozac, a horror show...extreme internal agitationLexapro 7.5mg (2 days)Lexapro 10mg (16 days)Zoloft 12.5mg (3 days)...she said try it again since my blood relative does well on it.Zoloft 25mg (7 days) - same as before and getting worse!!Zoloft 50mg (6 days)<p>Zoloft 25mg (4 days and then came off cold turkey on April 8, 2015). I used Xanax .25mg about 7 times per month through all of this until June 30th (my last dose). I am 21 months off SSRIs as of Jan. 8, 2017 and 18 months off benzos as of Dec 30 and I have had tiny windows. Extreme anxiety, nervous system traumatized, mental akathisia, anger triggered by nothing but the brain totally going off on its own, feeling of a pressurized electric current going through me like my brain and body are trying to explode, can't regulate emotions, waking in terror lasting all day, fear, very sensitive, brain can't keep up, don't know what to do with myself, electrical dizziness, feeling like everything is going too fast and I can't keep up, helium head, deep depression like something is ripping out my soul, out of my mind, can hardly drive or be alone, cognitive issues, simple tasks are so complex and straining, feel disturbed because the brain can't process anything right even though your brain tries so hard and it makes you go mad, episodes of deep anguish with a sick toxic poison feeling (like you have some unknown virus).


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Posted 14 November 2015 - 09:59 AM

Hi. Sorry not been in touch not been too great. Have anxiety and such negative thoughts but nothing like what you experiencing. I do feel for you. You been see doctor to see what they suggest? I've heard 7 month mark can get worse. Fingers crossed we can pull through this. I just feel at times its me and put up with it. I don't ever want to go on tablets again. Love and hugs dear xx
May 2003 prozac for six months after having first child. Came off taper slow. No withdrawals.
December 2009 10mg citalopram after second child.
January 2010 up to 20mg kinda helped. Not much.
July 2010 taper off within a month.
Side affects of tiredness tears. Doctor said I depressed still.
Oct 2010 Went back doctor they put me on sertraline 20mg and went to cbt therapy. Doctor kept upping it as wasn't feeling better to 200mg.
December 2014 felt better started to reduce by 4 tablets to 3 then to 2 then 1 and half. Four five weeks gap between. Stopped at 25mg in April 2015.7 months no meds.

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Posted 15 November 2015 - 03:22 PM

Hi karen and kt38 how you both doing lately? I'm still up and down but what upsets me most awful negative sad lonely thoughts. Will it ever be norm or is it meeee. xxxx
May 2003 prozac for six months after having first child. Came off taper slow. No withdrawals.
December 2009 10mg citalopram after second child.
January 2010 up to 20mg kinda helped. Not much.
July 2010 taper off within a month.
Side affects of tiredness tears. Doctor said I depressed still.
Oct 2010 Went back doctor they put me on sertraline 20mg and went to cbt therapy. Doctor kept upping it as wasn't feeling better to 200mg.
December 2014 felt better started to reduce by 4 tablets to 3 then to 2 then 1 and half. Four five weeks gap between. Stopped at 25mg in April 2015.7 months no meds.

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Posted 16 November 2015 - 03:39 AM

it will get better, nothing is permanent. try not to focus on how you are feeling, just let it exist for now.

 

sending prayers. Namaste. DC.


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Posted 16 November 2015 - 04:10 AM

I've had a window for a week!!!!! Not 100% but maybe 60% better. I didn't even hesitate going out to eat with my family. My cognitive issues are still very bad and can only drive the farthest 5 miles before my awareness issues set it. It feels like my brain is not connected right and then I have some sort of derealizarion panic set in and then fear about how am I going to make it back like this. So that is still there....not sure if that is called cog fog or brain fog or something. This morning has been pretty bad so I'm guessing that window is over. My "monthly" will be starting in about 4 days so that could also be a factor but who knows. My last wave was very very bad but the window was the very very best I've had.

<p><p>Started getting panic attacks mid-Dec and was told to take Xanax when I got an attack. After four days I was scared of the Xanax, so I tried Zoloft 25mg for one week (adverse reaction - extreme anxiety and felt like I was on an amphetamine). Dr. said to quit cold turkey, so I not only quit Zoloft but also 2 weeks of Xanax .25mg -- extreme dizziness, hyperarousal and anxiety began! On Jan. 29, 2015 my psychiatrist put me on new stuff and this is how my next 2 months and 7 days looked like (I was having the same bad reactions to all of these):Effexor XR 37.5mg (3 days) - throwing up, heart palpations, night tremors/convulsions or something where whole body shakes for a secondProzac 10mg (15 days) - dizziness went away in week 2, so I know now it was withdrawal after Zoloft, ugh!!!!Prozac 20mg (7 days) - internal restlessness, electric current through body/brain (not zaps), agitation, intense fear and could no longer nap at this point (still can't today because of this)Lexapro 5mg (4 days) - same as Prozac, a horror show...extreme internal agitationLexapro 7.5mg (2 days)Lexapro 10mg (16 days)Zoloft 12.5mg (3 days)...she said try it again since my blood relative does well on it.Zoloft 25mg (7 days) - same as before and getting worse!!Zoloft 50mg (6 days)<p>Zoloft 25mg (4 days and then came off cold turkey on April 8, 2015). I used Xanax .25mg about 7 times per month through all of this until June 30th (my last dose). I am 21 months off SSRIs as of Jan. 8, 2017 and 18 months off benzos as of Dec 30 and I have had tiny windows. Extreme anxiety, nervous system traumatized, mental akathisia, anger triggered by nothing but the brain totally going off on its own, feeling of a pressurized electric current going through me like my brain and body are trying to explode, can't regulate emotions, waking in terror lasting all day, fear, very sensitive, brain can't keep up, don't know what to do with myself, electrical dizziness, feeling like everything is going too fast and I can't keep up, helium head, deep depression like something is ripping out my soul, out of my mind, can hardly drive or be alone, cognitive issues, simple tasks are so complex and straining, feel disturbed because the brain can't process anything right even though your brain tries so hard and it makes you go mad, episodes of deep anguish with a sick toxic poison feeling (like you have some unknown virus).


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Posted 17 November 2015 - 01:01 AM

Daddycee that's a lovely way to think. Difficult to not focus on feelings. I find I get bad after pmt. Like now. Tired too.

Kt38 glad you having little break from the bad 2aves. That sounds like a good sign that u are healing slowly. I still can't get it in my head its the meds that still mucking me about when been off them 7 months. X
May 2003 prozac for six months after having first child. Came off taper slow. No withdrawals.
December 2009 10mg citalopram after second child.
January 2010 up to 20mg kinda helped. Not much.
July 2010 taper off within a month.
Side affects of tiredness tears. Doctor said I depressed still.
Oct 2010 Went back doctor they put me on sertraline 20mg and went to cbt therapy. Doctor kept upping it as wasn't feeling better to 200mg.
December 2014 felt better started to reduce by 4 tablets to 3 then to 2 then 1 and half. Four five weeks gap between. Stopped at 25mg in April 2015.7 months no meds.

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Posted 04 December 2015 - 11:38 AM

Why is it you feel you doing well but something still not right then BANG feel depressed and negative thoughts for two days. So frustrated especially christmas coming. Well at least I've had two weeks on off better days. Maybe starting to see light end of tunnel x how's yoy guys doing not heard from u. X
May 2003 prozac for six months after having first child. Came off taper slow. No withdrawals.
December 2009 10mg citalopram after second child.
January 2010 up to 20mg kinda helped. Not much.
July 2010 taper off within a month.
Side affects of tiredness tears. Doctor said I depressed still.
Oct 2010 Went back doctor they put me on sertraline 20mg and went to cbt therapy. Doctor kept upping it as wasn't feeling better to 200mg.
December 2014 felt better started to reduce by 4 tablets to 3 then to 2 then 1 and half. Four five weeks gap between. Stopped at 25mg in April 2015.7 months no meds.

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Posted 04 December 2015 - 12:27 PM

Sure sucks and is demoralizing eh....its called withdrawal. Doctors dont get it, but we sure do.

 

Check out the great links above already posted..esp the windows and waves one.

 

Hang in there. You can do it.


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Posted 04 December 2015 - 07:56 PM

Any good days are a sign of healing - so there's a celebration for you right there.

 

In my experience the first sign of an advancing Christmas can cause anxiety... Do you have a Christmas safety plan? 

 

I had a special counseling session just to make one :blink: :).

 

Sorry the negative thoughts got you, hope they pass soon.

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2011 February Escitalopram 10mg (sudden switch). 2012 January Escitalopram 20mg.  2013 Early June Feeling great, decide to taper. Doc advises alternate days 20mg/10mg for 4 weeks.  Late June Steady. Drop to 10mg daily. Early July Not coping, raging, flu symptoms, shaky, anxious, low, spaced-out, self-destructive.  Mid July Return to alternate days 20mg/10mg - minimal improvement. Early August Return to full dose 20mg. Lost.
2014 February Switch to Venlafaxine. (First reduced Esc. to 10mg/day for a week) Feb-April Lost, 'light' self-harm, exhausted.
April Increase Ven. to 150mg/day. Dizzy. July 75mg twice a day to improve dizziness. Deep depression remains.  2015 Feb Vigilant dose spacing partially eases dizziness. Mar Switch to Effexor 75mg 2x/day. May Cut 10% to 135mg - bad w/d 2 mths, held 1 mth.  Aug 1.3% cut - bad 1mth, held 1mth. Oct 4 wkly 0.4% cuts held 6 weeks. Jan 2016 2 wkly 0.4% cuts. 8 month hold. Sept Wkly cuts: 0.5%, 3 1% cuts.  Oct 4 wkly 1% cuts, hold 3-4 weeks.
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