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#181 LexAnger

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Posted 10 April 2017 - 11:01 PM

I'm glad Lexapro didn't impact you badly on that part. I'm like a walking body without a head.
I am supposedly work in office three days each week and from home the other two days. I haven't been able to make to office until like noon time in the past whole year since drug reaction-- too sick physically and mentally to get out, I even pushed to office today, all I did is one simple email of one line which took lots time to draft. Had a 1-1 meeting with one of my direct reports in a total DR and mental confusion, don't know how I made the conversation though, caught up more serious stuff addressing comments from reviewers on a document I prepared a while back-- in a total DR again. Somehow even in severe DR, my subconcesnes took over to talk, work like I did today in the meeting and on the document. It's very Barrier. And that was how I managed to do some work in the past year most of the time. I have postponed a presentation for several months as I am afraid I will suddenly collapse then everyone will know I'm a total crap. I can't go to meetings in person, while dialing in for meetings, it's also my subconcesnes talks.

When in severe pain, I still have some confidence, but when my brain is not own, confused and in DR, I lose every bit confidence.

I want to tell you that you are an aspiration, strong, determined, calm even in so much pain! Your strength will carry you over this misery!

Big hugs!
<p>2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg, first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, slight improvement with pain2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR2016 Feb., started fast taper for the drug toxicity caused by the one dose of 4.2mg, dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, sliding Down to 0.13mg by 2/13, then 0.07mg since 2/18, 0.06mg 2/20-3/17, 0.13mg 3/18

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Posted 10 April 2017 - 11:58 PM

It pains me to hear about the all the suffering you are going through. No sane person would take the risk eating Lexapro If they knew about stories like yours.

I feel like Im burning up from the inside. Constant pain and intense uneasiness. Psychic torture is the right word, i think. Mindfullness and acceptence is the only way i can stand this suffering. like a messed up monk, waiting for a small window, which Im sure will come soon.

Hang in there, friend!

Hugs!

<p>Sept 2015: 5 mg Cipralex for 3 weeks. Lots of side effects. Reduced to 2.5 mg for 2 weeks. Experiencing withdrawal and side effects still after dose reduction. Quit after almost 4 weeks on 2.5 mg because of adverse effects. Experiencing withdrawal symptoms still. Reinstating 1mg after 3 weeks. Reduced to 0.50 after 2 days due to sensitive reaction (dysautonomia) and trip to ER. January 2016: After 14 months of tapering from 0.5 mg im now down to 0.08mg. Planing on one more drop before 4-8 weeks healing, then jump to zero. 14.03.17: Lexapro free!


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Posted 14 April 2017 - 03:45 AM

One month off Lexapro as im writing this.

Im struggling with a sinus infection at the moment, so hard to say whats what, but i def have experienced a lot of WD symptoms since i jumped off. My sleep is improving which is a good sign i guess.

4 weeks is nothing in the long run, but every improvement or sign is a blessing these days

<p>Sept 2015: 5 mg Cipralex for 3 weeks. Lots of side effects. Reduced to 2.5 mg for 2 weeks. Experiencing withdrawal and side effects still after dose reduction. Quit after almost 4 weeks on 2.5 mg because of adverse effects. Experiencing withdrawal symptoms still. Reinstating 1mg after 3 weeks. Reduced to 0.50 after 2 days due to sensitive reaction (dysautonomia) and trip to ER. January 2016: After 14 months of tapering from 0.5 mg im now down to 0.08mg. Planing on one more drop before 4-8 weeks healing, then jump to zero. 14.03.17: Lexapro free!


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Posted 14 April 2017 - 04:22 AM

Nice to hear you are having better sleep! That is really a great news, first step of healing! I am still struggling with my sleeping issue, too, I never experienced these before.


2006 October Zoloft 50mg for anxiety. After 1.5 years stopped gradually in one month. Then relapsed after 4-5 months took back for 5 years then up dosed to 100mg 1 year.

2013 March Lexapro 10mg for 18 months to 2015 September.

2015 September increased to 20mg for 7 weeks but getting worse: heart beating to 125bpm, no appetite, nausea, hands trembling and extremely worsening anxiety, restless.

2015 3rd November dropped back to 10mg directly, heart beating reduced during the first month, heart beating calmed down on the 2nd month.

Since 2016 Still bad anxiety (obsessive negative thinking) , stomach upset, slightly depressed(since W/D always a bit depressed...), first 4 months constently no windows

After 4 months, up and down... 10th month, big horrible wave hit, (now known as Akathisia symptoms). Lasts 2 months, started lessening a lot. 

2016 11th November taper to 9mg, was good for 1.5 week, then Akathisia hit again for 4-5 days then good windows for a while. This keeps for 1 month.

2016 20th December akathisia started again with new intense restless legs symptom and insomnia symptom. Better after 2 weeks, then up and down. 

2017 8th Feburary Symptoms worsening, for recent 5 days almost 7/24, unbearable, usually much worse after taking, to 4 hours after taking, severe heart palp up to 135bpm. 

2017 3rd March Taper to 8.8mg for experiment. Fast taper start: 10th-8.6mg, 12th-8.2mg, 17th-8.0mg (Sleeping much better, heart rate dropped). 22rd-7.7mg (missed a dose, symptoms worsening). 27th-7.4mg.

April 2nd- 6.9mg (WD start), 19th-6.5mg.

 


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 06:48 PM

Hi Cipromillion,

How are you doing?
Has the akathesia lessened some? I have been thinking of you today during my most severe bugs crawling -- real hell!

Hope you are having more improvement since the sleep got better.

Lex
<p>2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg, first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, slight improvement with pain2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR2016 Feb., started fast taper for the drug toxicity caused by the one dose of 4.2mg, dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, sliding Down to 0.13mg by 2/13, then 0.07mg since 2/18, 0.06mg 2/20-3/17, 0.13mg 3/18

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:08 PM

Thx for asking me, Lex! Sorry to hear about the akathisia crawling. Nasty stuff! 😡

Im in a wave with worse akathisia. I've been drinking decaf coffee lately, and was shocked to find out that it actually contains a substantial amount of caffeine! That explains why my akathisia has skyrocket this last week 😡 Im so sensitive to food, and lifestyle is everything at the moment. My sleep is still improving and my vivid dreams/nightmares are almost gone completely.

Im allergic to pollen, and the season are starting now. Need to take my nasal corticostereoid spray soon. Hopefully my system will handle that smoothly.

How are you feeling yourself these days?

<p>Sept 2015: 5 mg Cipralex for 3 weeks. Lots of side effects. Reduced to 2.5 mg for 2 weeks. Experiencing withdrawal and side effects still after dose reduction. Quit after almost 4 weeks on 2.5 mg because of adverse effects. Experiencing withdrawal symptoms still. Reinstating 1mg after 3 weeks. Reduced to 0.50 after 2 days due to sensitive reaction (dysautonomia) and trip to ER. January 2016: After 14 months of tapering from 0.5 mg im now down to 0.08mg. Planing on one more drop before 4-8 weeks healing, then jump to zero. 14.03.17: Lexapro free!


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Posted 26 April 2017 - 01:29 AM

Hey mate, just come in and say hello, hope you are better today! 

 

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2006 October Zoloft 50mg for anxiety. After 1.5 years stopped gradually in one month. Then relapsed after 4-5 months took back for 5 years then up dosed to 100mg 1 year.

2013 March Lexapro 10mg for 18 months to 2015 September.

2015 September increased to 20mg for 7 weeks but getting worse: heart beating to 125bpm, no appetite, nausea, hands trembling and extremely worsening anxiety, restless.

2015 3rd November dropped back to 10mg directly, heart beating reduced during the first month, heart beating calmed down on the 2nd month.

Since 2016 Still bad anxiety (obsessive negative thinking) , stomach upset, slightly depressed(since W/D always a bit depressed...), first 4 months constently no windows

After 4 months, up and down... 10th month, big horrible wave hit, (now known as Akathisia symptoms). Lasts 2 months, started lessening a lot. 

2016 11th November taper to 9mg, was good for 1.5 week, then Akathisia hit again for 4-5 days then good windows for a while. This keeps for 1 month.

2016 20th December akathisia started again with new intense restless legs symptom and insomnia symptom. Better after 2 weeks, then up and down. 

2017 8th Feburary Symptoms worsening, for recent 5 days almost 7/24, unbearable, usually much worse after taking, to 4 hours after taking, severe heart palp up to 135bpm. 

2017 3rd March Taper to 8.8mg for experiment. Fast taper start: 10th-8.6mg, 12th-8.2mg, 17th-8.0mg (Sleeping much better, heart rate dropped). 22rd-7.7mg (missed a dose, symptoms worsening). 27th-7.4mg.

April 2nd- 6.9mg (WD start), 19th-6.5mg.

 


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Posted 26 April 2017 - 02:36 AM

Cipramillion.  It must feel great to be drug free. How are your symptoms ? Has anything changed ?  If I were you I would avoid the usual steroid nasal spray and perhaps stick to a saline salt spray which is side effect free.

 

You may want to look into green tea and cacao . They are a great way to come off caffeine but they also have health benefits that are worth pursuing.

 

Have you tried Melatonin for sleep ? I have found it to be helpful in withdrawal at a low dose to start with :  0 . 25 mg.


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Posted 26 April 2017 - 07:10 PM

I hate to hear you are still in the wave! It's so unfair and heartbreaking after all you did the slow and smooth taper, it still hit badly jumping off this poison!

Your strength and determination will carry you over to the other side with full freedom and recovery!

Much love and hugs,
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Posted 27 April 2017 - 03:30 AM

 

 

You may want to look into green tea and cacao . They are a great way to come off caffeine but they also have health benefits that are worth pursuing.

 

 

just know that green tea is not caffeine free. there is a decaf green tea but just like with decaf coffee, there's still a small amnt of caffeine in it, however it is usually less than what's in decaf coffee.

I think how you brew it/steep it may also make a difference.


1974-2002 many psych meds, all types; longest used drugs include lithium, seroquel, SSRI's zoloft & celexa; many CT's off drugs

2002-2015 on varying doses of lexapro, as  high as 40 mgs, but usually 20mgs

June 2015: tapered too fast to 2.5mgs, then to 2.5mgs every other day Dec 2015:  found SA forum; holding at 2.5mgs 

Early May 2016: jumped off at 2.5mgs, not smart- crashed in late Sept.

Oct 26 2016  reinstated liquid lexapro 0.05ml/day at night, dose +/- til settling on 0.15BID (0.3/day)= windows and waves

Jan 8, 2017 too quick switch to single dose in the morning, 0.3mgs (bad mistake, led to a crash)

Jan 12 added low dose zyprexa for SI, took infrequently as rescue med, last dose Feb.15

Jan 26 lexapro 0.27mg Feb 25 lexapro updose back to 0.3mg due to unrelenting severe insomnia

March 1 insomnia worse, back down to 0.29 for one day, then 0.27, then 0.25- improving!! March 17 0.24  April 7 0.21

March 7 added low dose lamictal, adjusting dose based on response (currently ~18mgs)

Supplements: Magnesium taurate 250mg, chromium, pro-biotic, biotin, glycine 2grams PM, 1 gram AM 


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Posted 28 April 2017 - 01:30 AM

Thanks Catnapt .  :)  It is an important distinction . I was thinking of it more in a stepping off  fashion -  coming off the caffeine slowly so as not to have withdrawal etc. with the view of phasing it out altogether, eventually.

 

However, for a totally caffeine free tea you could try Rooibos or any of the herbal teas. Rooibos is an African tea that is naturally caffeine free therefore avoiding the chemicals involved in the decaffeinate process.    

 

C. I hope this wave ends for you soon. I understand how tiring this process can seem at times but you are moving in a positive direction and it can only get better from this point on .


Many SSRI's &SSNRI's over 20 years . Zoloft - 7 years .  Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and many more - on and off . No tapering. Cold turkey -  Valdoxan - end of May 2014

 

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 03:55 AM

Thanks Catnapt .  :)  It is an important distinction . I was thinking of it more in a stepping off  fashion -  coming off the caffeine slowly so as not to have withdrawal etc. with the view of phasing it out altogether, eventually.

 

However, for a totally caffeine free tea you could try Rooibos or any of the herbal teas. Rooibos is an African tea that is naturally caffeine free therefore avoiding the chemicals involved in the decaffeinate process.    

 

C. I hope this wave ends for you soon. I understand how tiring this process can seem at times but you are moving in a positive direction and it can only get better from this point on .

 

oh yes rooibos tea is great, I drink that hot and then for a cold drink, I use a high antioxident tea made with hibiscus leaves (celestial seasons has several like Wild berry zinger) that I cold brew in the fridge

 

 

 

Some brands of tea don't use chemicals to decaf their tea, they use water, but to avoid the expense, you can decaffeinate your own teas by first pouring boiling water over it, just enough to cover, then pour that water off, most of the caffeine is washed off and then you add water to the washed out tea bag/leaves and drink that. A little trick I learned about when trying to find ways to save money :-)

 

Cipramillion, I hope you are doing better.

as Ali mentioned you might want to skip the steroid nasal spray and look into using a saline one or neti pot or something.
I'm going to try to go with out my Flonase this summer, I sure hope the saline stuff works!

unfortunately a lot of allergens can still enter thru other places besides your nose, so we'll see how that goes.


1974-2002 many psych meds, all types; longest used drugs include lithium, seroquel, SSRI's zoloft & celexa; many CT's off drugs

2002-2015 on varying doses of lexapro, as  high as 40 mgs, but usually 20mgs

June 2015: tapered too fast to 2.5mgs, then to 2.5mgs every other day Dec 2015:  found SA forum; holding at 2.5mgs 

Early May 2016: jumped off at 2.5mgs, not smart- crashed in late Sept.

Oct 26 2016  reinstated liquid lexapro 0.05ml/day at night, dose +/- til settling on 0.15BID (0.3/day)= windows and waves

Jan 8, 2017 too quick switch to single dose in the morning, 0.3mgs (bad mistake, led to a crash)

Jan 12 added low dose zyprexa for SI, took infrequently as rescue med, last dose Feb.15

Jan 26 lexapro 0.27mg Feb 25 lexapro updose back to 0.3mg due to unrelenting severe insomnia

March 1 insomnia worse, back down to 0.29 for one day, then 0.27, then 0.25- improving!! March 17 0.24  April 7 0.21

March 7 added low dose lamictal, adjusting dose based on response (currently ~18mgs)

Supplements: Magnesium taurate 250mg, chromium, pro-biotic, biotin, glycine 2grams PM, 1 gram AM 






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