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#37 Iamfine

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 03:12 PM

By the way I split a tooth because of bruxism, a side effect of either the Geodon or the Seroquel, not sure which one. Thanks a lot, medicine.
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In 2014-15 I tapered off Lithium 1200 mg (ct), Lexapro 40 mg, Lamictal 150 mg, Seroquel 500 mg, Klonopin 3 mg (ct), and had a short stint with Viibryd that lasted about 2 weeks. I also had about a month on Brintellix during this time.
Currently taking 60 mg prozac, 100 mg Seroquel (ri 8/4/16), 3 x 20 mg Ritalin, 2 x 0.5 Klonopin, and 120 mg Geodon. Will finish tapering off Geodon next.
Psych drugs tried: Prozac, Paxil, Wellbutrin, Effexor, Celexa, Lamictal, Lexapro, Viibryd, Brintellix, Pristiq, Zoloft, Seruquel, Zyprexa, Geodon, Abilify, Latuda, Ritalin, Adderall, Valium, Klonopin.

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 03:53 PM

That stuff is really addictive.  I'd be careful, it will make all of your problems disappear.  ALL of them.

 

I'm not 100% sure about this, but I think that at higher doses it will begin to influence seritonin and norepinephrine, which is not good during withdrawal.  Once a week or so should be fine.


8 Words of Wisdom about Adverse Effects and Psychiatric Drug Withdrawal Syndrome:

 

1.  Please do learn about this condition by thoroughly reading 1) Dr. Healy's website and SurvivingAntidepressants.

2.  Please read books like: 1) Anatomy of An Epidemic and 2) Mad in America.

3.  Success Stories do exist.

4.  Please be extremely cautious about reinstatements, recreational drugs, supplements.  Even low doses can complicate matters.

5.  Transfer all financial assets into your own name (hint: relationships end).  Do not spend money wastefully.  Keep your job as long as possible.

6.  Psychiatric drug "withdrawal" and adverse effects are serious neurological reactions to powerful "drugs" - do not take this condition lightly.

7.  These conditions almost never recognized by any medical doctors - hospitalization/appointments can be futile/potentially injurious.

8.  PSSD, anhedonia (no emotions), memory loss, brain zaps, etc are scary - don't worsen them by taking more drugs, supplements, and medications.

 

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#39 brassmonkey

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Posted 19 June 2015 - 09:10 AM

I've been using a mouth guard at night for years, I really helps keep the clinching/grinding under control.  I got mine at the local sporting goods store, the cheapest one they make for footballers.  They are real easy to fit.  I chewed up the first one in a matter of weeks, but then things settled down and the next one lasted several years.


20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mg it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

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Posted 25 June 2015 - 01:42 PM

If there a risk of developing a habit you can take the remainder to pharmacy I think. Osk were you thinking it can make someone manic? Because some people to react to it like it's an intense up, and others get mean and angry. But most get pain relief and feel sleepy.


2009: Cancer hospital said I had adjustment disorder because I thought they were doing it wrong. Their headshrinker prescribed Effexor, and my life set on a new course. I didn't know what was ahead, like a passenger on Disneyland's Matterhorn, smiling and waving as it climbs...clink, clink, clink.

2010: Post surgical accidental Effexor discontinuation by nurses, masked by intravenous Dilaudid. (The car is balanced at the top of the track.) I get home, pop a Vicodin, and ...

Whooosh...down, down, down, down, down...goes the trajectory of my life, up goes my mood and tendency to think everything is a good idea.
2012: After the bipolar jig was up, now a walking bag of unrelated symptoms, I went crazy on Daytrana (the Ritalin skin patch by Noven), because ADHD was a perfect fit for a bag of unrelated symptoms. I was prescribed Effexor for the nervousness of it, and things got neurological. An EEG showed enough activity to warrant an epilepsy diagnosis rather than non-epileptic ("psychogenic") seizures.

:o 2013-2014: Quit everything and got worse. I probably went through DAWS: dopamine agonist withdrawal syndrome. I drank to not feel, but I felt a lot: dread, fear, regret, grief: an utter sense of total loss of everything worth breathing about, for almost two years.

I was not suicidal but I wanted to be dead, at least dead to the experience of my own brain and body.

2015: I  began to recover after adding virgin coconut oil and organic grass-fed fed butter to a cup of instant coffee in the morning.

I did it hoping for mental acuity and better memory. After ten days of that, I was much better, mood-wise. Approximately neutral.

And, I experienced drowsiness. I could sleep. Not exactly happy, I did 30 days on Wellbutrin, because it had done me no harm in the past. 

I don't have the DAWS mood or state of mind. It never feel like doing anything if it means standing up.

In fact, I don't especially like moving. I'm a brain with a beanbag body.   :unsure:


#41 Iamfine

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Posted 25 June 2015 - 01:45 PM

I took a few and tossed the rest. For the record it caused no harm, but wow, those things make you feel goooood! I can see why they are so addictive.
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In 2014-15 I tapered off Lithium 1200 mg (ct), Lexapro 40 mg, Lamictal 150 mg, Seroquel 500 mg, Klonopin 3 mg (ct), and had a short stint with Viibryd that lasted about 2 weeks. I also had about a month on Brintellix during this time.
Currently taking 60 mg prozac, 100 mg Seroquel (ri 8/4/16), 3 x 20 mg Ritalin, 2 x 0.5 Klonopin, and 120 mg Geodon. Will finish tapering off Geodon next.
Psych drugs tried: Prozac, Paxil, Wellbutrin, Effexor, Celexa, Lamictal, Lexapro, Viibryd, Brintellix, Pristiq, Zoloft, Seruquel, Zyprexa, Geodon, Abilify, Latuda, Ritalin, Adderall, Valium, Klonopin.

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Posted 26 June 2015 - 12:56 PM

I took a few and tossed the rest. For the record it caused no harm, but wow, those things make you feel goooood! I can see why they are so addictive.

They sure do.  I loved the painkillers, but eventually stopped when I needed to up my dose 4X to get the same effect.  That's ultimately the problem with painkillers, you just build tolerance so quickly, that it gets out of control within a month.


8 Words of Wisdom about Adverse Effects and Psychiatric Drug Withdrawal Syndrome:

 

1.  Please do learn about this condition by thoroughly reading 1) Dr. Healy's website and SurvivingAntidepressants.

2.  Please read books like: 1) Anatomy of An Epidemic and 2) Mad in America.

3.  Success Stories do exist.

4.  Please be extremely cautious about reinstatements, recreational drugs, supplements.  Even low doses can complicate matters.

5.  Transfer all financial assets into your own name (hint: relationships end).  Do not spend money wastefully.  Keep your job as long as possible.

6.  Psychiatric drug "withdrawal" and adverse effects are serious neurological reactions to powerful "drugs" - do not take this condition lightly.

7.  These conditions almost never recognized by any medical doctors - hospitalization/appointments can be futile/potentially injurious.

8.  PSSD, anhedonia (no emotions), memory loss, brain zaps, etc are scary - don't worsen them by taking more drugs, supplements, and medications.

 

Stimulant free since September 20th, 2014; SSRI free since September 1st, 2013


#43 Iamfine

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Posted 26 June 2015 - 12:59 PM

It's too bad that they can't make an ad that will make you feel like that full time. I would be first in line.
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In 2014-15 I tapered off Lithium 1200 mg (ct), Lexapro 40 mg, Lamictal 150 mg, Seroquel 500 mg, Klonopin 3 mg (ct), and had a short stint with Viibryd that lasted about 2 weeks. I also had about a month on Brintellix during this time.
Currently taking 60 mg prozac, 100 mg Seroquel (ri 8/4/16), 3 x 20 mg Ritalin, 2 x 0.5 Klonopin, and 120 mg Geodon. Will finish tapering off Geodon next.
Psych drugs tried: Prozac, Paxil, Wellbutrin, Effexor, Celexa, Lamictal, Lexapro, Viibryd, Brintellix, Pristiq, Zoloft, Seruquel, Zyprexa, Geodon, Abilify, Latuda, Ritalin, Adderall, Valium, Klonopin.

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Posted 19 January 2016 - 07:57 AM

Did a search and did not see anything titled like this so forgive me if I am creating a thread that already exists.  I was just wondering what are peoples thoughts on tylenol use during taper/withdrawal?  The tylenol would be used for osteoarthritis and sciatica?  Thanks in advance!


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Multiple failed attempts to quit/taper anti d/anti anxiety meds since 2008

June 17, 2016 began prozac bridge to get off of effexor xr, stopped effexor xr on June 24, 2016, could not tolerate prozac due to severe side effects so I had to stop it  Currently...300 mg ER of lithium, 1 mg of estradiol, 60 mg propranolol ER, Fish oil 2 x a day, Magnesium Glycinate,  zinc, vitamin c, vitamin d, NAC

 

 

 

 

 


#45 Petunia

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Posted 19 January 2016 - 05:15 PM

Here's the link to our pain relief topic:Pain Killers in Withdrawal: aspirin, ibuprofen, paracetamol ...

 

Personally, I haven't taken tylenol, but have been ok with the occasional aspirin or ibuprofen, but others have different experiences, so read through the topic and please add your experiences if you try something.


I'm not a doctor.  My comments are not medical advise. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I've learned. Please discuss your situation with a medical practitioner who has knowledge of tapering and withdrawal...if you are lucky enough to find one.

 

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Full Drug and Withdrawal History

 

Brief Summary

Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety)

Xanax PRN

Various other drugs over the years for side effects

2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010

Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal

DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms

Failed reinstatement of Lexapro and trial of Prozac (became suicidal)

May 2013 Found SA, learned about withdrawal, stopped taking drugs...healing begins.

Protracted withdrawal, with a very sensitized nervous system, slowly recovering as time passes animal25.gif

 

Supplements which seem to help:  High doses of Vitamin C, Magnesium, Garlic and Ginger.  Taurine, Vit D3, L-Theanine and Inositol. I'm one of the rare people who react badly to fish oil.

 

June 2016 - Started daily juicing, mostly vegetables and lots of greens.

 

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#46 Jlynn

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 07:45 AM

Recently have been going through a big wave. The first one since my slow taper started. I guess it is only natural that I have been racking my brain trying to figure out what I did differently to maybe have caused this crash I am going through.

One of the things I just remembered this morning is a couple days before all of this started for about three days in a row I took two Alleve (naproxen) when I woke up to help with pain from a twisted knee. I didn't see anything in the forms ( I may have not searched right) about how people do on Alleve during WD and if I should stay away from it and use something else?

40 years old and have been on 20 mg of Paxil for the last 19 years. Multiple unsuccessful attempts to quit over the years.01/2015 Was tapering using liquid Paxil. MD has prescribed 1 ml = 2mg taper every two weeks or once withdrawal symptoms at that dose subside. Reduced from 20 to 10 mg using this method and at 10 mg severe withdrawal set in. 1.5 months of pure hell. Found SA, learned what was happening, and reinstated to 20 mg. After a month of severe symptoms recovered with the reinstatement. Fish oil - Multi Vitamin - Pro-biotic, amino-acid/B Vitamin supplement every day. Magnesium as needed.08/09/15 - 18 mg - 09/08/15 - 16.4 mg - 10/10/15 - 15 mg - 01/02/16 - 13.6 mg 02/15/16 - 12.0 mg - Bad symptom flare up 40 days into drop - Dizziness, panic/anxiety, overheating (esp at night), low appetite, headache, insomnia with bizarre dreams, internal shaking. 04/16/16 - 11mg - 7/17/16 - 10 mg holding.....


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Posted 16 May 2016 - 02:30 AM

I could not tolerate alleve in early wd either it was bad enough I have not touched it since... I am tylenol #3 have been for some time now and I think it makes me stupid..more stupid.  I can't be sure of course it may be the way things are as I have had these bouts of lack of intelligence throughout wd without any T3 in the picture. It gets worse when I increase the dose I don't think it helps as much as I would like with pain and dose increases has likely made the side effects for me worse given my not happy liver. 

 

I know when I don't take it I do feel better in a different way more pain but better inside myself. 

peace

 

ps at one point in wd I took the lowest dose not but not kids dose advil every morning for brain fog and later learned it lowers cortisol for those really miserable mornings I had a long run of them I would go out every morning so I could be alone had a car then it was my escape... no car now no escape. 


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Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

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#48 Prozac20

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Posted 16 May 2016 - 01:04 PM

Has anyone tried Tylenol PM or Motrin PM to help them sleep?
Xanax PRN ( 1/2 of .25mg approximately 2-3 a month when needed ) since May 2015
In April 2016 started birth control and in my opinion it triggered anxiety for almost a week straight and took 1/2 .25mg Xanax everyday for that week ( never had taken that many in a row before )
Saw the family MD and gave me Prozac 20 mg.
took it for 6 days and could not handle the side effects and had to stop working
Went back to the dr on the 7 day and told me to stop CT . I told him that I was scared to stop so suddenly so he gave me 10mg to take to see if the side effects decreased
Took the 10mg that night and the next day felt so much worse . After that did take anything any more except and antibiotic due to UTI
It's been almost 7 weeks and I have a lot of weakness ( comes and goes) anxiety , cortisol urges at night and worse in the morning which usually lessens throughout the day , tinnitus , heavy leg feeling , fatigue and burning skin mostly my left arm, face and neck mainly when I fee the cortisol surges .

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Posted 16 May 2016 - 10:24 PM

I take ibruprofen and paracetamol occassionally. It gives some relief, more than it did in the past, but still no cure.

Codiene knocks me out now. Even half an over the counter dose. I do have it but am hesitant to use it.

Many things are different now. I am concerned over every tablet and what it might do. Gavasvon and mylanta make me spew too. I've known for years that vitamin pills do not agree with me, so I wont even take them!

I get to a very distressed point before I will take anything to help pain.
Currently on 50mg Fluvoxamine. Reading more before the next attempt at tapering.

Started Lexapro 04, have been mostly on med combinations since for 12 years.
May 2015 - zeldox 80 - 100mg, fluvoxamine 200mg, dexamphetamine 10mg
Lorazepam and clonazepam on and off for over a decade. Heavily sedated with antipsychotics - mostly Zyprexa and seroquel. Many hospitalisations. Many types of therapy, last being 7 years of psychodynamic that only figured out my pain was real.
Pain meds - Lyrica 150mg palexia 100mg - discontinued eary 2016
Done ok so far but cant drop the last antidepressant without physical illness.

#50 rafatennis

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Posted 25 August 2016 - 08:03 AM

I had a question about adding a pain reliever over the counter Aleve for a knee issue. I'm currently tapering Nortriptylene, I' dropped from 7mg to 4mg 5 1/2 weeks ago and am still trying to adjust with the usual overactive CNS I was advised and agree that might drop was too much , I also take 1.5 mg clonazepam at night. I looked online and did not see an interaction from Aleve with the other two meds but considering my sensitive state right now I wanted to reach out for advice, thanks


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Clonazepam 1.5mg at night

Nortriptylene 22.5mg march 10th 2016

Dropped to 20mg April 1st 2016

Dropped to 16mg April 24th 2016

Dropped to 13mg May 13th 2016

Dropped to 10mg June 3rd 2016

Dropped to 7mg June 24th 2016

Dropped to 4mg July 16th 2016

holding went water titration August 7th

added 2mg back August 26th hopes of some relief


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Posted 06 October 2016 - 06:36 AM

Hi
I have a question about taking pain killers. I had a hip replacement 2.9.16 and was prescribed codeine and paracetamol to take . This was very necessary for the first week but then became very worried about the possibility of withdrawal and the impact on the small dose of Prozac I was taking. It certainly made me very tearful and emotional.

I reduced the Codiene over a week and took my last dose a week ago.

I have only take paracetamol occasionally this week as well.

So in total only took codeine for about two weeks at maximum dose 4 times per day.

This week I have noticed some effects which could be similar to withdrawal- shivers, feeling sick and upset stomach and dizzy, loss of appetite.

They are no way as bad as when I came of off citalpram.

Do you think this is the effect of the codeine leaving my body?

Did I need to taper from the codeine as well after only three weeks?

I have stuck with the Prozac religiously and do not intend starting to taper again until I am fully well again probably not until the new year.

Any experience or advice would be welcome.
Thanks
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Dec 2005 prozac following period of bullying by collegue 2006 changed to Citalapram 20- increased to 40mg
April 2014 decision to come off A.D. Gp appointment swapped to seralatine (lustral)50 as a means of getting off A.D .
raised to 100. 14.7.14 5 weeks taper on doctors recommendation.28th July finished reduction. 4.8.14- 9.9.14 severe withdrawal effects. 13.10.14 reinstatement of 20mg Prozac.dec 2014 started gradual taper 10% every 3 weeks. 14.9.15 1.6 ml currently. Some minor withdrawal effects but holding firm. 10% reduction every 3 weeks. Reached .8 experienced withdrawal symptoms held for longer . 7.4.16 currently on .7ml Prozac. More difficult the lower you go. 25.7.16 holding at .57 ml for a while as period of stress and withdrawal.
2.9.16 Hip operation prescribed codeine and paracetamol for the pain. Stopped after three weeks for fear of addiction. following period of instability and withdrawal symptoms updosed to 1. Ml 28.10.16.

#52 Help777

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 08:31 AM

Please advise...i have an upper scope scheduled on friday for the burning ive had in my abdomen. Strict diet changes have lessened the pain but have not gotten rid of it. I am really scared about having a paradoxical reaction to the fentanyl thye are going to give me to sedate me, since my nervous system is so sensitized right now from the wd. I stopped effexor in may but am still on 1mg prozac. Also taking 200 mg lithium. Any thoughts, advice on something else i can ask the doctor about that would be safer?
Thank you.
<p>2000 effexor xr 112.5mgTried weaning twice over last few years, gave up after emotional turmoilNoticed mood instability over last few years and went to see pdoc.Pdoc diagnosed bpII and suggested I start lithium and 'wean effexor.Sept 2015 added lithium 300mg.Sept 2015 started to wean effexor.Oct 2015 weaned effexor xr to 75 mg. experienced crying bouts and pdoc suggested prozac bridge to assist taper.Oct 2015 added prozac 20 mg to help bridge; continuing with 75mg effexor, 300 lithiumNov 2015 effexor xr down to 37.5mg, continuing prozac 20 mg and lithium 300 mg.Dec 2015 Started counting effexor beads as dose is now smaller than the 37.5mg capsule - at 86 beads, cont prozac 20 mg, lithium 300 mgJan 2016 effexor 66 beads, which is about 20mg. Continuing with prozac 20mg and lithium 300mg. Also, Omega 3Feb 2016 56 beads of effexor xr. Prozac 20 mg. lithium 300mg, also Omega
3March 2016 Effexor-36 beads. Prozac-10 mg. Lithium 300 mg, also Omega 3 and probiotics, gf, no sugar, high fat, protein diet.
April 2016 Effexor 26 beads, Prozac 10 mg, Lithium 300 mg. also, Omega 3 and probiotics. gf, no sugar, high fat, protein diet.<p>
May 12th took last bead of effexor. Will begin to taper prozac 5mg at a very slow rate. Continuing with 300mg Lithium for now.
May 31st took last of prozac. Continuing Lithium 300 mg, estrogen patch 150, magnesium.
June 14th reinstated 1mg Prozac due to intolerable emotional distress. Cont with lithium 300mg, 150 magnesium, re added omega 3, cont estrogen patch. June 15-july 5th had marked improvement of emotional wd symptoms, likely due to the reinstatement. Wave came crashing in around July 5th and intense emotional symptoms returned.
July 15 decreased 50 mg of lithium to see if it improved low heart rate.
July 19th - increased prozac to 1.5mg.
July 22 marked improvement of emotional symptoms...again, likely due to increase of prozac. However sudden agitation developed so decreased back down to 1.25mg prozac. Realizing increasing dose is dangerous because of these adverse effects and also seeing that wave is inevitable regardless of reinstatement.
Continuing 250 lithium, 1.25mg prozac, estrogen.
Oct 31st - continued 250 lithium, 1 mg prozac, estrogen patch. Thinking about retrying omega 3 and magnesium but they made symptoms worse when i tried a few months ago.

#53 JanCarol

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 10:16 PM

More information on acetominophen / paracetamol:

 

From Wikipedia:

 

Drug-induced liver damage (hepatotoxicity) results not from paracetamol itself, but from one of its metabolitesN-acetyl-p-benzoquinoneimine (NAPQI).[4]NAPQI decreases the liver's natural antioxidant glutathione and directly damages cells in the liver, leading to liver failure.[4]

 

They are talking about toxicity - but - use of paracetamol strips the liver of glutathione, one of those master amino acids that is so important to the endocrine and liver.

 

It is my understanding that many SSRI's, neuroleptics, anti-seizure drugs also strip the liver of glutathione.  I heard this from naturopaths, but it seems that the metabolism of paracetamol / acetominophen does rob the body of some native glutathione - an amino which is stripped from us by so many things in our lives.

If you OD on paracetamol (it is the #2 cause of OD in Australia), they infuse you with glutathione at the hospital.

 

http://www.huffingto...f_b_530494.html

 

This could explain why so many suffer side effects from taking paracetamol in withdrawal (maybe especially if your particular drug metabolises/d in the liver?).

 

It also gives me pause, every time I take one.  I have to choose - healing?  or pain relief?  Because it seems that the latter mediates the former.  

 

The same is true of anti-inflammatories (NSAIDs, aspirin) but by a different mechanism.  Inflammation is often a response to induce healing.  You bang your finger, it swells up in order to heal.  You can take an NSAID and the inflammation goes down - but then the healing response is slower.

 

The trade-off point is personal, I suppose. 

 

ALSO - if you are on any form of lithium, NSAIDs and aspirin potentiate lithium, increasing the risk of toxicity.

 

There are alternatives: turmeric.  ginger (fresh root, steeped in tea),  willow bark tea.  pycnogenel (also a light blood thinner), resveratrol (mostly for blood thinning, less for pain).  bromelain.  fish oil.  if it's structural pain - glucosamine / chondroitin / MSM.  Ice.  Heat.  Magnesium baths (my favourite).  


"Easy, easy - just go easy and you'll finish." - Hawaiian Kapuna

 

Holding is hard work, holding is a blessing. Give your brain time to heal before you try again.

 

My suggestions are not medical advice, you are in charge of your own medical choices.

 

A lifetime of being prescribed antidepressants that caused problems (30 years in total). At age 35 flipped to "bipolar," but was not diagnosed for 5 years. Started my journey in Midwest United States. Crossed the Pacific for love and hope; currently living in Australia.   CT Seroquel 25 mg some time in 2013.   Tapered Reboxetine 4 mg Oct 2013 to Sept 2014 = GONE (3 years on Reboxetine).     Tapered Lithium 900 to 475 MG (alternating with the SNRI) Jan 2014 - Nov 2014, tapered Lithium 475 mg Jan 2015 -  Feb 2016 = GONE (10 years  on Lithium).  Many mistakes in dry cutting dosages were made.

 

Currently Lithium Orotate 1.67 mg only.  I will re-evaluate this supplement in 2017.

 

I have been psych drug FREE since 1 Feb 2016!