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#37 Junglechicken

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 07:10 PM

By way of an update, the shippers are picking up our stuff next Friday. Haven't stopped 'running' for weeks now as crazy amount of things to do.

Going to take a 2 week vacation before returning to the UK. Went to MD today to get my urine tested for possible UTI.

Hanging in there, but extremely stressed out and hyper.

Walked 12k a couple of days ago which threw my CNS into overdrive. Paid for it yesterday and still not good today.

In a nutshell am freaking out as we will have as much to sort out when we get to the UK as well as having to move 4 times.

Any support would be appreciated.

Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Systemic Candida. 24 March 2017 DETOX started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.
Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram)


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Posted 06 January 2016 - 09:34 PM

Hi Junglechicken , it sounds like you're doing really well with so much to organize.
Anyone would find this sort of move extremely stressful , even without ad's involved.

If you do have a UTI , you might want to look at options other than antibiotics , which can
react badly with cipralex.
Are you still having w/d symptoms?
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July 2014 felt v.depressed - couldn't stop crying. Started pristiq 50mg. Felt improvement within days and continued to improve, so stayed on 50mg for 8 months.
Began taper 28 Feb. 2015. Pristiq 50mg down to 45mg. Had one month of w/d symptoms. Started CES therapy in March. No w/d symptoms down to 30mg.
October 2015 , taking 25mg Pristiq. Capsules compounded with slow-release additive.
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Posted 07 January 2016 - 07:54 AM

Fresh - thank you for your reply :0)

WD symptoms I have experienced since re-instating Cipralex 5 weeks ago:

Loud tinnitus (more noticeable if I have overdone it with the exercise).
Body aches and pains (more noticeable if I have overdone it with the exercise).
Anxiety and depression has ramped up more the closer we get to the move date.
Appetite has been up and down depending on how I have been feeling.

Have been so busy I haven't really had time to analyse too much.

Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Systemic Candida. 24 March 2017 DETOX started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.
Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram)


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Posted 07 January 2016 - 06:40 PM

Forgot to mention that I have pretty major fatigue and it comes and goes.

I am about a week off my TOTM which does make me feel very tired.

Not used to feeling so tired and it makes me wonder if I have something more serious.

Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Systemic Candida. 24 March 2017 DETOX started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.
Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram)


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Posted 07 January 2016 - 11:39 PM

My best advice is to be gentle with yourself Junglechicken. Don't get caught in a whirlwind , cause thisis a marathon , not a sprint.
You are the best judge of what a good baseline is for you. If you are still considering updosing
you could go to 3mg. After 5 weeks you'll continue to improve , but we know it's slow.

Probably a good thing not to spend too much time analyzing symptoms.
How are you feeling about going on vacation?
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July 2014 felt v.depressed - couldn't stop crying. Started pristiq 50mg. Felt improvement within days and continued to improve, so stayed on 50mg for 8 months.
Began taper 28 Feb. 2015. Pristiq 50mg down to 45mg. Had one month of w/d symptoms. Started CES therapy in March. No w/d symptoms down to 30mg.
October 2015 , taking 25mg Pristiq. Capsules compounded with slow-release additive.
March 2016 , 21mg

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Posted 09 January 2016 - 03:02 PM

My best advice is to be gentle with yourself Junglechicken. Don't get caught in a whirlwind , cause thisis a marathon , not a sprint.You are the best judge of what a good baseline is for you. If you are still considering updosingyou could go to 3mg. After 5 weeks you'll continue to improve , but we know it's slow.Probably a good thing not to spend too much time analyzing symptoms.How are you feeling about going on vacation?


Don't think I have UTI, didn't hear back from MD re: result of urine test - think I was just very de-hydrated which caused the mega fatigue. Also my TOTM is nearly here which also makes me very tired.

Not too worried about vacation, can't wait to do NOTHING. So long as I have my meds and supplements should be ok.

Not going to up-dose but miss my running a lot. However, I was using marathon training as a means to manage my stress levels so became OCD about recording every bit of exercise I was doing.

Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Systemic Candida. 24 March 2017 DETOX started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.
Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram)


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Posted 10 January 2016 - 03:36 PM

Forgot to add to the WD symptom list above that if I over exert myself then I get the flu-like symptoms.

A couple of days ago I was shifting large shipping boxes around the house and yesterday i got aches and pains and the this morning I got the flu-like symptoms.

They can last a few hours or a day and then they disappear.

Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Systemic Candida. 24 March 2017 DETOX started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.
Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram)


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Posted 11 January 2016 - 07:17 PM

UTI test came back negative.

Next up will be blood and urine tests.

Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Systemic Candida. 24 March 2017 DETOX started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.
Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram)


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Posted 12 January 2016 - 12:13 PM

UTI test came back negative.
Next up will be blood and urine tests.

Just been rung up by other doctor (not my regular doctor) who I saw about UTI test - she said I had very low level bacterial growth.

Will keep monitoring and have the ABs to hand if needed.

However, if anyone knows of a non AB treatment I would appreciate it, as Fresh mentioned that the Cipralex/Macrobid interaction isn't good.

Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Systemic Candida. 24 March 2017 DETOX started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.
Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram)


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Posted 12 January 2016 - 01:08 PM

Cranberry juice is the traditional cure.


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Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mg it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

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Posted 12 January 2016 - 01:14 PM

Cranberry juice is the traditional cure.


Thanks BM, thought I would check to see if there were any others people knew about other than cranberry juice.

Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Systemic Candida. 24 March 2017 DETOX started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.
Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram)


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Posted 12 January 2016 - 04:17 PM

Here are a few ideas JC. I take colloidal silver instead of antibiotics. If these remedies don't work
you might consider taking that for a few days.

1. Apple Cider Vinegar
Apple cider vinegar is a rich source of enzymes, potassium and other useful minerals that can prevent the bacteria that cause UTIs from multiplying or growing. Those suffering from UTIs can use apple cider vinegar as a natural antibiotic to treat the infection.

Add two tablespoons of apple cider vinegar to a glass of water. You can also add lemon juice and sweeten with honey. Mix it well.
Drink this two times a day for a few days.

2. Cranberry Juice
Certain compounds like proanthocyanidins found in cranberries prevent bacteria from reaching the walls of the urethra and causing UTIs. Cranberry juice also has a very mild antibiotic affect.

Drinking half a glass of cranberry juice daily is one of the easiest ways to prevent urinary tract infections.
Those suffering from a UTI should drink about three to four glasses of cranberry juice daily to prevent the infection from causing damage to the kidneys.
You must drink unsweetened cranberry juice. You can mix it with apple juice to enhance the taste.
Warning: Do not take cranberry juice if you have a history of kidney stones.

3. Baking Soda
Baking soda will raise the acid-base balance of acidic urine and give you relief from the pain. Neutralizing the acidity in the urine also will help speed up recovery. Simply add one teaspoon of baking soda to a glass of water and drink it once or twice a day.

4. Tea Tree Oil
Tea tree oil has antibacterial properties to help fight the bacteria that cause bladder infections like UTIs.

Mix 10 drops of tea tree oil in your bath water and use this water to wash the urethra opening.
Alternatively, you can mix tea tree oil with equal amounts of juniper oil and sandalwood oil and rub this mixture on the abdominal region and on the area near the bladder. This is very effective in reducing pain associated with UTIs. Follow this remedy once daily for three to four days.
Another simple way to treat UTI is to soak in warm bath water mixed with two teaspoons of plain yogurt and six drops of tea tree oil. Do this daily for 10 minutes for about 10 days
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July 2014 felt v.depressed - couldn't stop crying. Started pristiq 50mg. Felt improvement within days and continued to improve, so stayed on 50mg for 8 months.
Began taper 28 Feb. 2015. Pristiq 50mg down to 45mg. Had one month of w/d symptoms. Started CES therapy in March. No w/d symptoms down to 30mg.
October 2015 , taking 25mg Pristiq. Capsules compounded with slow-release additive.
March 2016 , 21mg

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Posted 12 January 2016 - 04:35 PM

Thank you very much Fresh.

I bought some UTI pills earlier that are made of 100% cranberry juice and I have to take 5 a day or something. Most effective if taken for a month.

This should work while we are mid-moving.

Off to have a shower, lol, this move is a nightmare!

Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Systemic Candida. 24 March 2017 DETOX started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.
Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram)


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Posted 15 January 2016 - 11:45 AM

Packers have been here since 8:30am .....surviving on only 4.5hrs sleep and amazingly have had no body aches today after yesterday's marathon packing session.

 

Been popping cranberry pills for the last few days (6 per day) and hope that any remaining bacteria will be flushed out.

 

After this we'll be in a motel, then off for 2 weeks vacation then back for a week then off to the UK.

 

Crazy times, God knows how I'm surviving this and have shaky hands (maybe all that green tea I drank this morning).

 

The 2 weeks vacation will be the eye of the storm before the craziness the other end.


Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Systemic Candida. 24 March 2017 DETOX started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.
Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram)


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Posted 03 February 2016 - 05:19 AM

Hi all,

Got back from 2 week vacation last night hence no input from me for a while.

Feeling really off :0(

Couldn't sleep a wink last night.....

Day before yesterday got carried away and did some strenuous swimming in a very wavy sea for 50mins. Boy am I paying for it now.

Got a head cold and cough as a few bigger waves shoved me under the water.
Had various aches and pains since and rested yesterday.
Bad tinnitus after the flight (cabin way too hot and dry). Overdid my tea I take which wouldn't have helped CNS.
Oh and the UTI which I thought had gone seems to be back :0( I was taking cranberry pills until they ran out which seemed to do the trick and resisted taking the Macrobid. Could the strenuous swimming have set it off again??

Other than that had a lovely relaxing time and didn't think about the WD issues too much. Now I am back in Canada the neurosis is back.

AND I have urine and blood tests at 10am today :0(

Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Systemic Candida. 24 March 2017 DETOX started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.
Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram)


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Posted 03 February 2016 - 05:36 AM

Hi Jungle.  I understand about travelling.  It's rough, however I'm not going to stop , in lieu of " withdrawal ".  You sound ok .  Is there anything else you need to know ?

All of your symptoms sound like withdrawal .

Let us know how you go , with your tests.

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Posted 03 February 2016 - 05:47 AM

Hi Jungle.  I understand about travelling.  It's rough, however I'm not going to stop , in lieu of " withdrawal ".  You sound ok .  Is there anything else you need to know ?
All of your symptoms sound like withdrawal .
Let us know how you go , with your tests.
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Felt weird the day after arriving at our hotel (tropical damp climate). Got headaches, nausea and body pains.
Now it's back to cold and dry climate (the opposite). Got all the things I mentioned above.

Just really nervous about the tests - convinced I have something.

Yes travelling is very tough. A week from now we have an even longer flight.... Starting life again in our own country.

A tip for anyone travelling - before we left I bought a pill case which for $10 carried all my supplements and AD for a month. Saved a lot of space in my luggage as I didn't need to take along the large plastic containers they come in.

Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Systemic Candida. 24 March 2017 DETOX started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.
Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram)


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Posted 03 February 2016 - 06:01 AM

Jungle.   Are you still on Cipralex  - 2.5mg ?   December 18  - 2015 ?  If not , can you update your drug history ?


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Posted 03 February 2016 - 06:03 AM

Jungle.   Are you still on Cipralex  - 2.5mg ?   December 18  - 2015 ?  If not , can you update your drug history ?


Yes I am on the same dose AliG.

Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Systemic Candida. 24 March 2017 DETOX started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.
Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram)


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Posted 03 February 2016 - 06:16 AM

How were your tests ?     :) 


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#57 Junglechicken

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Posted 03 February 2016 - 07:01 AM

How were your tests ?     :)


Haven't had them yet. In 2 hrs time :0(

Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Systemic Candida. 24 March 2017 DETOX started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.
Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram)


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Posted 03 February 2016 - 07:17 AM

Let us know how you go , when you get the results .   :)


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Posted 03 February 2016 - 07:41 AM

Will do, think they take at least 3 working days for analysis and then get sent to doctor.

Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Systemic Candida. 24 March 2017 DETOX started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.
Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram)


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Posted 05 February 2016 - 10:56 AM

TOTM arrived 7 days early this month - should I be concerned?

Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Systemic Candida. 24 March 2017 DETOX started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.
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Posted 08 February 2016 - 06:00 PM

TOTM arrived 7 days early this month - should I be concerned?


Period finished after only 3 days as heavier this month.

Guys - I badly need your insight:

I am scared that the UTI never went or that I have something else. Have been taking cranberry pills every day.

Since being back I have been suffering from pain in the lower back, lower abdominal, left foot, hips and random parts of my back. My brain is in a fog. The head cold I had is on its way out.

Please help as I am flying on Wednesday. Should I get another UTI test done??

Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Systemic Candida. 24 March 2017 DETOX started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.
Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram)


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Posted 08 February 2016 - 07:02 PM

I have a friend on here who is over 20 months out from Lexapro and still has weird cycles.  I've heard that withdrawal and AD use both can mess with cycles, making menstruation more severe, longer, shortening the cycle, all kinds of stuff. 

 

What were your test results?  Are you having frequent urination?  You could re-test if that would give you peace of mind.  It sounds like the stress of moving after vacation is catching up with you, making you more vulnerable to withdrawal waves.  You have a lot going on and it is no wonder you are in a wave!  Try to hunker in and nurture yourself, and drink lots of fluids. Are you taking a probiotic?

 

I remember having a horrid bladder infection while on vacation camping of all things!  I was miserable and we never bothered to stop and seek treatment.  This was back in the '80's.  I had blood in my urine and had to pee constantly, very uncomfortable!  I finally got treated when we got home, and all was well.  No lasting damage.  Review that list of helpful tips Fresh gave you.  They must have checked the pH of your urine.  I know in my dogs that alkaline urine is indicative of a bacterial infection since normally it should be acidic.  I think you can even get test strips that show values for blood, sugar, protein, pH etc. in urine.  I was using them for a dog that had bladder stones.  That might be something to try, but if it is easy to drop in for another urine test that would be good.

 

I hope you get relief soon!

 

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June 1 Reinstated Effexor XR 37.5 mg, Remeron dropped to 30 mg PM. Immediate relief of symptoms, like nothing had ever happened!  On p-doc's orders went up to 75 mg Effexor June 11-12, then back to 37.5 mg when I realized all the hell I had been through before was WD from Effexor!  Joined SA and began tapering both too soon one month later.

8/22/15: Effexor to 30.75 mg, Remeron to 22 mg. 9/9/15 Effexor 30 mg/Remeron 21 mg. 9/24/15: Remeron 19 mg. 10/25/16: Remeron 17 mg. 11/14/15:  Effexor 28.5 mg 12/2/15: Remeron 16 mg. 12/5/15: Effexor 28.1 mg. 12/17/15: Remeron 15 mg. 1/26/16: Remeron 14 mg. 3/22/16, Remeron 13.5 mg and Effexor 25.9 mg (had nudged it down by fraction of a mg since Dec).  4/28/16: Remeron 13 mg, Effexor 25.5 mg.  5/21/16: Remeron 12 mg, Effexor 24.75 mg.  6/17/16, Effexor 23.25 mg, Remeron 11.6 mg. 7/12/16:  Remeron 11 mg, Effexor 22.12 mg.  9/22/16:  Effexor 19.5 mg, Remeron 9 mg

 

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#63 Junglechicken

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Posted 08 February 2016 - 08:47 PM

Thank you so much SG, you have put my mind at ease - have been really freaked out the last few days.

Was talking to my hubby over dinner and it dawned on me that I could have re-entered a wave on account of all the symptoms which started the day we got back from vacation (note: I was totally fine for the 2 weeks we were away).

Hasn't helped that since we got here haven't been able to exercise due to having a cold.

Worst thing today was having tunnel vision fear and feeling that I was in a downward spiral of despair.

Will get re-tested tomorrow for UTI and deal with it.

As always I really appreciate the kindness of the people on this forum......it's a life saver.

Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Systemic Candida. 24 March 2017 DETOX started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.
Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram)


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Posted 09 February 2016 - 03:12 AM

J C.  Have you tried " Colloidal Silver " ?  :)   It can put  those problems , to rest  ! Not proven , as its natural , but does work .


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Posted 09 February 2016 - 06:31 AM

Hi AliG, no I haven't tried it. Will see if I can get it here.

Had a scare early hours of this morning due to lower abdominal pain/sensitivity.

Usually sleep on my front and the area below my belly button was too sensitive to put pressure on (haven't had this before) - couldn't get comfortable. Went to the loo and passed a you-know-what which seemed to do the trick.

My digestive system has been up the creek since we got back and I haven't been going to the loo properly once a day but instead several times (bit by bit). Wonder if this is the cause. A lot of things went through my mind earlier :0(

Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Systemic Candida. 24 March 2017 DETOX started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.
Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram)


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Posted 09 February 2016 - 08:44 AM

Freaking out about blood now.

Thinking its to do with my digestive tract and not my period coming to an end. Oh heck I don't know anymore.

We didn't manage to have our blood/urine tests done as we didn't have our requisition forms due to the move. Going to have them done this afternoon.

Help :0(

Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Systemic Candida. 24 March 2017 DETOX started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.
Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram)


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Posted 09 February 2016 - 09:02 AM

Hi JC.  Just breathe.  It's ok . You're panicking !  What can you do to calm yourself ?  Meditation , yoga or perhaps deep breathing ?  Maybe , a walk ? Just try and stay calm , and these problems will  resolve, in time.

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#68 Junglechicken

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Posted 09 February 2016 - 09:12 AM

Just scared AliG because of the pain.

My period pain doesn't usually go past the 3 day point once it's started, and so I started thinking its something else :0(

Not having a good time of it, and yes I am panicking.....

Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Systemic Candida. 24 March 2017 DETOX started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.
Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram)


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Posted 09 February 2016 - 09:28 AM

I don't know what time it is there, but can you try an epsom salts  / magnesium bath ?  or a heat pack ?

These symptoms are probably just " wacky withdrawal symptoms".  There are a lot of them. The thing is not to let them get the better of you. Just say to yourself -"this is withdrawal "  All these symptoms , show that I'm healing.  This is just my body , realigning itself after the trauma. Talk yourself through this, in a good way. Perhaps read this : 

http://survivinganti...around-the-web/

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#70 Junglechicken

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Posted 09 February 2016 - 10:55 AM

Ali, got your message re: magnesium bath.

It's noon in Western Canada....we are busy as usual doing stuff prior to flying tomorrow.

Yeah, didn't recognise the pain I had so got scared. Have nausea and appetite loss.

Trying to keep a lid on the emotions but admit I am struggling big time amid the chaos.

Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Systemic Candida. 24 March 2017 DETOX started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.
Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram)


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Posted 10 February 2016 - 07:17 AM

Finally had our tests done yesterday (blood/urine/ECG).

Tested negative for UTI.

Lower abdominal pain has now gone. Doctor thought it could be Montzuma's revenge as we had been to Mexico.

Now have a nasty chest cold/cough infection just in time for our flight back to the UK :0( It's been one thing after another.

Something you would all appreciate. Yesterday I saw a young female doctor who acknowledged that ADs cause a multitude of aches, pains and weird side effects particularly once they have been stopped and then re-instated. She is the only doctor who has said this.

Must be something to do with the medical training these days....those that are fairly new out of medical school are aware of this AD stuff.

Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Systemic Candida. 24 March 2017 DETOX started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.
Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram)


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Posted 10 February 2016 - 12:46 PM

Body aches, awful nights sleep with the coughing and now on day 6 of TOTM (SG - your point re: messed up cycles noted although this is a first for me as it's usually bang on time and predictable).

Oh and the constipation is driving me nuts :0(

9hr flight coming up in 8hrs time :0(

Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Systemic Candida. 24 March 2017 DETOX started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.
Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram)






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