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#1117 Junglechicken

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Posted 17 April 2017 - 03:17 AM

Ok, so ND has said its ok for me to take anti-histhamines while I'm plagued with rashes and intense facial itching.

Thank God! Will take it before bed.

My poor father had to go into hospital yesterday after a fall (he hit his head), and he also has a urinary infection. I think he will be back home today though. Parkinsonism is a long, slow and nasty neurological degenerative illness.

<p>Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Candida Related Complex (CRC). 24 March 2017 DETOX (3 weeks) started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 "Genova Testing 3 day stool sampling" Comprehensive Analysis.  Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.  Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram) when feel ready.


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Posted 17 April 2017 - 05:46 AM

DAY 2/3 "Biological Sample Collection" - COMPLETE

Note: I am even MORE traumatized from this experienced, want to throw up :0(

 

JC,

 

Sorry to hear about your father.  That is hard. 

 

I hear you.  I did that process.  It's gross but if you can find your way to thinking of it as what it is -- simply a testing device to understand what is happening in your body -- perhaps you will be better able to move past it.  I got some useful information out of my testing. I hope you do as well.

 

 

 

Ok, so ND has said its ok for me to take anti-histhamines while I'm plagued with rashes and intense facial itching.

Thank God! Will take it before bed.

 

I know you are placing a lot of faith in the ND and the last thing I want to do is create any doubt for you, but, I feel it is my obligation to tell you to research the site a little regarding antihistamines and their impact on SSRI withdrawal.  The histamine system is very complex and I want to make sure you go into this with your eyes wide open.  At the very least, please keep aware for any reactions you have to the antihistamine if and when you start them.

 

http://survivinganti...allergy-relief/

 

At their root, the SSRIs are antihistamines in nature and that can be the source of problems in this histamine system.

 

See the following from Beyond Meds:

 

https://beyondmeds.c...ne-psych-drugs/

 

Best,

 

Andy


Started Sertraline 50mg and Clonazapam .375mg circa 2000; Sx Spring 2012. increased to .5 Clonazapam - no improvement; Started taper of K November 2012 (benzo sites said "taper benzo first"); increased Sert to100mg no improvement; Finished K microtaper in November 2014
Started Sertraline taper from 100mg in December 2014 by reducing to 75mg; Reduced to 62.5mg on January 1, 2015 and 50mg on February 1, 2015; Held at 50mg through April 5 when I got Rx for liquid Sertraline
Reduced dosage in 10% or less drops from 50mg to 25mg -- at single tablet on 10/5

Held through February with no noticeable change

March 2016 attempted to begin taper again but miscalculated into 1 week accidental updose to 32.5mg; dropped back to 25mg for 1 week; tapered to 22.5mg the following week; hit with symptoms and tried to stabilize between 22.5mg and 25mg.  Transitioned to all liquid for accuracy. Was dealing with horrible insomnia which had me sleeping once every other day.  Went back to 25mg liquid and held until October 1, 2016.  October 1 cut 4% to 24mg.  November 1 cut 8.3% to 22mg. December 1 cut 9% to 20mg.  Not great but functional. 2/1/17 cut 5% to 19mg.  Taking Spray-on Magnesium, Magnesium supplements, D3, Omega 3, curcumin, Co-Q10, Valerian, 81mg Aspirin, L-Theanine


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Posted 17 April 2017 - 08:47 AM

DAY 2/3 "Biological Sample Collection" - COMPLETE
Note: I am even MORE traumatized from this experienced, want to throw up :0(

 
JC,
 
Sorry to hear about your father.  That is hard. 
 
I hear you.  I did that process.  It's gross but if you can find your way to thinking of it as what it is -- simply a testing device to understand what is happening in your body -- perhaps you will be better able to move past it.  I got some useful information out of my testing. I hope you do as well.
 

 
 
Ok, so ND has said its ok for me to take anti-histhamines while I'm plagued with rashes and intense facial itching.Thank God! Will take it before bed.

 
I know you are placing a lot of faith in the ND and the last thing I want to do is create any doubt for you, but, I feel it is my obligation to tell you to research the site a little regarding antihistamines and their impact on SSRI withdrawal.  The histamine system is very complex and I want to make sure you go into this with your eyes wide open.  At the very least, please keep aware for any reactions you have to the antihistamine if and when you start them.
 
http://survivinganti...allergy-relief/
 
At their root, the SSRIs are antihistamines in nature and that can be the source of problems in this histamine system.
 
See the following from Beyond Meds:
 
https://beyondmeds.c...ne-psych-drugs/
 
Best,
 
Andy

Thank you Andy for the heads up re: anti-histhamine use and for your support re: the, well....you know!

I thought it was too good to be true. Will check out those links.....guess it's the "paradoxical effect".

Also, since I started my Detox 3 weeks ago, my "Body Water Percentage %" is still pretty low at 42%.

The NORMAL range starts at 45% and goes to 60%.

This would suggest I'm very dehydrated, despite drinking throughout the day. I

I am NOT diabetic, and have completely normal blood sugar.

Off to see my folks tomorrow.........

<p>Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Candida Related Complex (CRC). 24 March 2017 DETOX (3 weeks) started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 "Genova Testing 3 day stool sampling" Comprehensive Analysis.  Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.  Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram) when feel ready.


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Posted 18 April 2017 - 01:01 AM

Dad is being kept in hospital for a few days under observation  :( 

 

We're going to visit him on our way down to the "West Country".

 

I think they're checking for signs of possible stroke, etc.,

 

Mum is beside herself with worry; now hubby and I have to sort out nursing home for Dad a few days a week.

 

Didn't sleep well at all last night......VERY itchy face (didn't take anti-histamine), bad period pain.......the usual :angry: 


<p>Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Candida Related Complex (CRC). 24 March 2017 DETOX (3 weeks) started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 "Genova Testing 3 day stool sampling" Comprehensive Analysis.  Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.  Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram) when feel ready.


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Posted 18 April 2017 - 01:41 AM

DAY 3/3 "Biological Sample Collection" - COMPLETE

Note: I am EVEN MORE traumatized from this experienced, STILL want to throw up :0(

 

Thank **** that's over with.......


<p>Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Candida Related Complex (CRC). 24 March 2017 DETOX (3 weeks) started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 "Genova Testing 3 day stool sampling" Comprehensive Analysis.  Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.  Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram) when feel ready.


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 01:53 AM

Dad is ok, got discharged day before yesterday......postural hypertension, so his medication has been revised. He was back to usual self again thank God. 

 

In the meantime my hair keeps coming out in chunks :( Also, my skin is REALLY bad :(

 

The ND has suggested a couple of creams to try so I'm praying that they will work.......completely out of ideas :(

 

Have been detoxing for a month now......weight has dropped by 10Ibs which is good, so 1-2Ibs weight loss per week.

 

Got to wait for my Genova lab results to come back to determine what will happen next, i.e. 6 week Gut Cleanse?

 

My therapist has given me a relaxation CD to help bring down my stress levels, in addition to exercising.


<p>Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Candida Related Complex (CRC). 24 March 2017 DETOX (3 weeks) started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 "Genova Testing 3 day stool sampling" Comprehensive Analysis.  Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.  Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram) when feel ready.


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 04:47 AM

Hi JC:

I glad your dad is ok.

That's great you have dropped 10 pounds. :) I still haven't started my diet. With my nausea, I don't want to "rock the boat" anymore than my body is now.

Good luck on the creams. I hope your skin starts healing soon. :)

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 04:58 AM

Thank you Frogie, it was a traumatic 12 hrs visiting my Dad in hospital and my mother was a complete nervous wreck.

 

Yes, the weight loss is good, but I HAVE to get a grip on my mood.  The skin is untreatable....I have tried everything

 

Absolutely HAVE to start meditating/doing relaxation exercises or I'll have NO hair left and ALL my skin will be covered in dermatitis.

 

We ALL have our issues Frogie with this thing called WD.

 

You have your nausea, and I have horrible eczema/dermatitis; which is untreatable (have tried everything) other than by altering my mind-set.

 

TC,

JC xx


<p>Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Candida Related Complex (CRC). 24 March 2017 DETOX (3 weeks) started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 "Genova Testing 3 day stool sampling" Comprehensive Analysis.  Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.  Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram) when feel ready.


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Posted 22 April 2017 - 01:03 AM

Have had to take anti-histhamine :(

 

Skin is just too raw and itchy.


<p>Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Candida Related Complex (CRC). 24 March 2017 DETOX (3 weeks) started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 "Genova Testing 3 day stool sampling" Comprehensive Analysis.  Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.  Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram) when feel ready.


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Posted 23 April 2017 - 01:03 AM

So I've got a combination of anti-histhamine and "Hope's Relief" cream and spray to stop the itching.

 

Literally, I have no skin left so cannot go on without taking action.

 

The emolient stopped working.


<p>Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Candida Related Complex (CRC). 24 March 2017 DETOX (3 weeks) started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 "Genova Testing 3 day stool sampling" Comprehensive Analysis.  Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.  Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram) when feel ready.


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Posted 25 April 2017 - 08:28 AM

My skin has calmed down a lot thanks to the anti-histhamine / special cream combo.

Now I'm experiencing bladder sensitivity and lower abdominal pain :0(

Have also started taking Milk Thistle to support my liver.

Frustrated with endless pain.

My biological sample results will be released on 13th May.

<p>Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Candida Related Complex (CRC). 24 March 2017 DETOX (3 weeks) started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 "Genova Testing 3 day stool sampling" Comprehensive Analysis.  Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.  Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram) when feel ready.


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Posted 26 April 2017 - 10:47 AM

Have been hit with another bout of cystitis......I think its being caused by the detox.

 

Reckon its because the detox has caused yeast "die off" which have ended up irritating my bladder.

 

I have felt achy today - hips, lower back, legs.

 

Needless to say my mood has been low, and my anxiety always increases.

 

I guess my concern is that its ovarian cancer because of the tummy pain :( 


<p>Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Candida Related Complex (CRC). 24 March 2017 DETOX (3 weeks) started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 "Genova Testing 3 day stool sampling" Comprehensive Analysis.  Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.  Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram) when feel ready.


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Posted 26 April 2017 - 10:52 AM

Have been hit with another bout of cystitis......I think its being caused by the detox.
 
Reckon its because the detox has caused yeast "die off" which have ended up irritating my bladder.
 
I have felt achy today - hips, lower back, legs.
 
Needless to say my mood has been low, and my anxiety always increases.
 
I guess my concern is that its ovarian cancer because of the tummy pain :(


JC:

I'm sorry you are going through all of this...

I hope you feel better soon. :)

Take care,
Frogie xx
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50mcg 18-April for hypothydroidism Stopped by dr. on 20-April too many side effects, going to try again in 6 months

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Posted 26 April 2017 - 11:50 AM

JC. Have you kept up with the colloidal silver ?  I had some of your issues but they are mainly gone now with a little bit of help. C/ Silver and carrot juice This can sometimes be rectified in a few days with the right alkaline diet. 

 

Have you given up dairy yet ?  That can sometimes help.


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Posted 26 April 2017 - 12:05 PM

JC. Have you kept up with the colloidal silver ?  I had some of your issues but they are mainly gone now with a little bit of help. C/ Silver and carrot juice This can sometimes be rectified in a few days with the right alkaline diet. 
 
Have you given up dairy yet ?  That can sometimes help.


Hi Ali,

There are a lot of food groups I'm not eating, and dairy is one of them, lol.

I've been detoxing for over a month now and would say my diet is about as alkali and healthy as it gets with no allergenic foods at all.

I hadn't kept up with the CS but have been taking cystitis sachets.

My feeling is that the root cause is "Endotoxin" die off getting into the bladder.

Hugs,
JC

<p>Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Candida Related Complex (CRC). 24 March 2017 DETOX (3 weeks) started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 "Genova Testing 3 day stool sampling" Comprehensive Analysis.  Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.  Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram) when feel ready.


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Posted 26 April 2017 - 12:30 PM

I hope you have some relief soon. You are well overdue for some positive reinforcement and healing. This thing takes time and much patience. I think you're doing so well.

 

Sending " love and light " .

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Posted 26 April 2017 - 01:12 PM

Thanks Ali,

For all I know this is a "healing event" caused by the detox OR

It's emotional, OR

it really IS cystitis.

All I know is, whenever I get swabs done, or dip tests.....they always come up negative.

Wishing you love and light with your healing too.

JC xx

<p>Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Candida Related Complex (CRC). 24 March 2017 DETOX (3 weeks) started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 "Genova Testing 3 day stool sampling" Comprehensive Analysis.  Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.  Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram) when feel ready.


#1134 Junglechicken

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Posted 27 April 2017 - 01:17 AM

Lower abdominal pain has subsided......accompanying that pain was a whole load of body aches and pains.

 

There is a strong chance the cause is emotional.

 

If I were to look back through my symptom log, I could correlate these "pain events" (always lower abdominal) to my emotional state.

 

Of course, if I wanted to get conclusive answers, I would need to have some scans done.

 

I am far from settled in life, and it doesn't take much for me to become agitated, stressed and upset.

 

Its also possible that this is symptom transferral.....reason being, as my eczema/dermatitis has been calming thanks to the anti-histamine/special creams I have been using......then immediately after, I get hit with the lower abdominal pain.

 

?????


<p>Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Candida Related Complex (CRC). 24 March 2017 DETOX (3 weeks) started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 "Genova Testing 3 day stool sampling" Comprehensive Analysis.  Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.  Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram) when feel ready.


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Posted 27 April 2017 - 01:32 AM

As far as detox goes.....

 

Weight continues to drop:

 

11Ibs of weight loss so far.

 

Continuing to detox until my "Genova Test" results come back on 13th May.


<p>Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Candida Related Complex (CRC). 24 March 2017 DETOX (3 weeks) started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 "Genova Testing 3 day stool sampling" Comprehensive Analysis.  Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.  Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram) when feel ready.


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Posted 27 April 2017 - 11:57 AM

I have found a really good article about "Understanding Healing Crisis".  Something most of us are dealing with - see link below:

 

http://jonburras.com...ling-crisis.pdf

 

The author Jon Burras mentions "Unfortunately, most medical professionals and professional therapists are not trained in how to understand the healing crisis. The medical establishment wishes to categories a healing crisis as a “breakdown”, or disease. They equate being in control at all times as the normal model for health and loss of control is equal to disease.

 

Most people, when turning to medical professionals for help, are either hospitalized or medicated in order to suppress the symptoms. While this may help one to lessen the intensity of the experience and bring one back to normal- control- it does very little to actually help one through the healing crisis. Many people live life numb and avoid feeling and sensation at all costs.

 

They become alarmed when strong sensations and emotions begin to emerge. When entering into a healing crisis many of these sensations are not pleasant and can be very painful. Pain, pressure, and lack of coordination are some common complaints when experiencing a healing crisis. Other symptoms may include frequent urination, heavy sweating, depression, explosive anger, or even vomiting.

 

The body during these times tends to enter into a state of chaos. Extreme tiredness is another common side affect. Some people even report a sense of giddiness or silliness that does not stop."


<p>Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Candida Related Complex (CRC). 24 March 2017 DETOX (3 weeks) started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 "Genova Testing 3 day stool sampling" Comprehensive Analysis.  Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.  Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram) when feel ready.


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Posted 27 April 2017 - 04:08 PM

Good find JC. Thank you for posting the link.


20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mg it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 01:03 AM

Its a really good article Brass, glad I found it.

 

Came across it after doing a search on "healing crisis".

 

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Off to see the nurse this morning for yet ANOTHER urine "dip test".

 

Been in a lot of pain and have had to take pain killers :( 

 

My ND has advised "Keep taking cranberry, drink lots of filtered water (NO tap water) and eat plenty of garlic (nature’s antibiotic). A course of acidophilus will also help."


<p>Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Candida Related Complex (CRC). 24 March 2017 DETOX (3 weeks) started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 "Genova Testing 3 day stool sampling" Comprehensive Analysis.  Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.  Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram) when feel ready.


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Posted 28 April 2017 - 03:51 AM

Yet ANOTHER dip test with a negative result.

 

The nurse has sent my urine sample for lab culture to see if they've missed something.

 

Other than that, its sachets, drinking loads of water, garlic etc.,

 

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<p>Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Candida Related Complex (CRC). 24 March 2017 DETOX (3 weeks) started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 "Genova Testing 3 day stool sampling" Comprehensive Analysis.  Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.  Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram) when feel ready.






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