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#721 Blondiee1915

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Posted 16 April 2017 - 03:17 PM

 

 

Hi Catnapt,

I can relate to this completely . I think is that we are just sensitive human beings in general . I get jealous when I see people go through life relaxed and on their own frequency not minding surroundings and not responding to life with much emotion . Care free I guess ? I am so sensitive . When I walk into a room I can even feel the mood / energy and it can through me off so much . Just like sponge and I cannot block it. I guess we just have to learn to accept it as part of life and the way we are .

 

oh sorry it happens to you too.

I think, for me, at least, this is a bit more than just being sensitive, I don't know.

 

 

yes it would be nice to be care free!! I don't know if I will ever be able to relax that much again. I hope so, though

 

I was sorting through some papers this morning and came across my symptom list for this past Dec and was shocked that I was doing that poorly!
I really don't have anything to complain about now, in comparison.
But of course, we don't usually compare how we feel today to the worst that we've felt;  instead we think about how we felt at our best, or at least when things were better, and wish that we felt THAT way instead.

It's hard to feel grateful sometimes but it does help to change my perspective and then, my mood.

 

I should pop over to your thread Blondie, I haven't kept up and wonder how you are doing

 

OH I slept last night!! not sure for how long, but it was good sleep, mostly.

I added some glycine, half of a 1000mg capsule.  of course, after 3 nights of no sleep, there's a chance I would have fallen asleep anyway -but I seem to have slept better than usual, so maybe it was the gylcine

 

I will try it again tonight and see what happens.

 

That is good news about your sleep catnapt.  I am not familiar with gylcine either.  But if it is not harmful and it does the trick it is great!  I recall sleep is one of you big issues and I do hope it will continue to improve.  I remember from reading your earlier posts about no sleep and waking up every few hours and it seems that now it is somewhat better, right?  

 

I am glad you are continuing to improve.  And you are right about comparing how we feel now to our best versus worst.  I never thought about it that way.  To be honest I am even scarred to go back and read my earlier posts.  Good thing is we are doing better and there will be bumps and hurdles but eventually we will find out way 

 

Are you sleeping with your windows open nowadays?  I love this 70s weather.  I have my window open and hear the birds in the morning makes me feel good 

 

Oh and about ringing in the ears.  I think it gets aggravated by stress at least for me.  Last week I was hope a couple of days and I remember sitting and reading and I was like oh wow my ears ringing is very mild almost unnoticed.  But then back to work, stress levels are up and ringing came back.  


  • Lexapro 20 mg 2007 - 2013 with various attempts to stop.  Most lasted 3 months, was forced to reinstate due to severe symptoms 
  • 2013 found a new Dr and started trying other medications: Prozac, Notryptoline, Effexor, Buspar, Gabapentin, Paxil (each med about 2-4 months).  
  • MOI Nardil  2014 - 2015
  • Lexapro 15 mg 2015 - 04/2016
  • Vibryiid 10 - 15mg 05/16-06/16 

Started to withdraw from Vibryiid around mid -June'16 with last dose in in July. Felt pretty good for the whole summer. Some anxiety, dizziness, short fuse, some weakness but okay overall. Comes October - dizziness, spinning, off balance feeling, FATIGUE, anxiety, fear, racing thoughts, insomnia, DP/DR

 

Reinstated 10/31/16 at 2.5 mg lexapro, then increased to 5 mg  Some relief, sleep better, severe DP/DR decreased.  Still very anxious, exhausted, dizzy. 

Switched 12/26/16 Luvox 50 mg (25 mg am and 25 mg pm).  Dizziness, exhaustion, anxiety, DP/DR

1/13/17 switched to one dose of Luvox 50 mg before bed.  EXHAUSTED, dizzy, weakness, off balance, anxiety, DP/DR

1/20/17 Luvox 37.5 mg PM.  Main symptoms: FATIGUE, dizziness, DP/DR, anxiety 

 

Supplements: iron, fish oil, vitamin D, methyl folate, Mitochondiral NRG (for fatigue)


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Posted 16 April 2017 - 03:42 PM

 

 

 

Hi Catnapt,

I can relate to this completely . I think is that we are just sensitive human beings in general . I get jealous when I see people go through life relaxed and on their own frequency not minding surroundings and not responding to life with much emotion . Care free I guess ? I am so sensitive . When I walk into a room I can even feel the mood / energy and it can through me off so much . Just like sponge and I cannot block it. I guess we just have to learn to accept it as part of life and the way we are .

 

oh sorry it happens to you too.

I think, for me, at least, this is a bit more than just being sensitive, I don't know.

 

 

yes it would be nice to be care free!! I don't know if I will ever be able to relax that much again. I hope so, though

 

I was sorting through some papers this morning and came across my symptom list for this past Dec and was shocked that I was doing that poorly!
I really don't have anything to complain about now, in comparison.
But of course, we don't usually compare how we feel today to the worst that we've felt;  instead we think about how we felt at our best, or at least when things were better, and wish that we felt THAT way instead.

It's hard to feel grateful sometimes but it does help to change my perspective and then, my mood.

 

I should pop over to your thread Blondie, I haven't kept up and wonder how you are doing

 

OH I slept last night!! not sure for how long, but it was good sleep, mostly.

I added some glycine, half of a 1000mg capsule.  of course, after 3 nights of no sleep, there's a chance I would have fallen asleep anyway -but I seem to have slept better than usual, so maybe it was the gylcine

 

I will try it again tonight and see what happens.

 

That is good news about your sleep catnapt.  I am not familiar with gylcine either.  But if it is not harmful and it does the trick it is great!  I recall sleep is one of you big issues and I do hope it will continue to improve.  I remember from reading your earlier posts about no sleep and waking up every few hours and it seems that now it is somewhat better, right?  

 

I am glad you are continuing to improve.  And you are right about comparing how we feel now to our best versus worst.  I never thought about it that way.  To be honest I am even scarred to go back and read my earlier posts.  Good thing is we are doing better and there will be bumps and hurdles but eventually we will find out way 

 

Are you sleeping with your windows open nowadays?  I love this 70s weather.  I have my window open and hear the birds in the morning makes me feel good 

 

Oh and about ringing in the ears.  I think it gets aggravated by stress at least for me.  Last week I was hope a couple of days and I remember sitting and reading and I was like oh wow my ears ringing is very mild almost unnoticed.  But then back to work, stress levels are up and ringing came back.  

 

glycine is an amino acid I believe, there's a thread about it here somewhere LOL I am having trouble finding things lately

Alto tried it and it seems to have helped her with sleep too.

You have to be careful not to take too much or it can cause the opposite. That seems to be true of a lot of the things that might help with sleep.

yes insomnia has been my worst symptom, although now i call it disturbed sleep because it upsets me to think of it any other way. My sleep is very disturbed, but any time I can get 4 or 5 good hours per night, even if I wake up a lot, I feel like I'm making progress.
I dont usually keep track of how long I sleep but I can often figure it out by the noises in the neighborhood, or what might be on TV , etc.

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oh yeh, I am often afraid to go back and read thru my thread as well. It is scary to see how bad things were, and then you wonder if they might get that way again. It was good that I did it today, though because right now, I need to remember that things were worse, so that I don't continue to try to push the envelope on tapering.

 

I am so tempted to keep sliding down a tiny bit each week, but I've had the ringing in my ears back again, too and you're right, its def stress related!! my vision issues are the same, very much related to stress.

 

we're gonna get thru this. one day at a time, or one night at a time, or one minute at a time.

I hope you feel more rested tomorrow!! and better yet, I hope you have the day off, I guess in some places, the day after Easter is a holiday. ( at least where my Canadian friend lives it is lol)


1974-2002 many psych meds, all types; longest used drugs include lithium, seroquel, SSRI's zoloft & celexa; many CT's off drugs

2002-2015 on varying doses of lexapro, as  high as 40 mgs, but usually 20mgs

June 2015: tapered too fast to 2.5mgs, then to 2.5mgs every other day Dec 2015:  found SA forum; holding at 2.5mgs 

Early May 2016: jumped off at 2.5mgs, not smart- crashed in late Sept.

Oct 26 2016  reinstated liquid lexapro 0.05ml/day at night, dose +/- til settling on 0.15BID (0.3/day)= windows and waves

Jan 8, 2017 too quick switch to single dose in the morning, 0.3mgs (bad mistake, led to a crash)

Jan 12 added low dose zyprexa for SI, took infrequently as rescue med, last dose Feb.15

Jan 26 lexapro 0.27mg Feb 25 lexapro updose back to 0.3mg due to unrelenting severe insomnia

March 1 insomnia worse, back down to 0.29 for one day, then 0.27, then 0.25- improving!! March 17 0.24  April 7 0.21

March 7 added low dose lamictal, adjusting dose based on response (currently ~18mgs)

Supplements: Magnesium taurate 250mg, chromium, pro-biotic, biotin, glycine 2grams PM, 1 gram AM 


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Posted 17 April 2017 - 03:45 AM

finally found something that really helps me sleep: glycine

 

have been taking 500mgs at night and added a morning 500mg dose to see if it would quell the morning anxiety and it has, at least somewhat

 

is there a recommended dose for ppl in WD or is it just trial and error? I read that too much can cause anxiety, so I know I need to be careful

 

FWIW the bottle says to take 1 to 3 capsules per day and they are 1000mg capsules (I empty out half into water to take it)


1974-2002 many psych meds, all types; longest used drugs include lithium, seroquel, SSRI's zoloft & celexa; many CT's off drugs

2002-2015 on varying doses of lexapro, as  high as 40 mgs, but usually 20mgs

June 2015: tapered too fast to 2.5mgs, then to 2.5mgs every other day Dec 2015:  found SA forum; holding at 2.5mgs 

Early May 2016: jumped off at 2.5mgs, not smart- crashed in late Sept.

Oct 26 2016  reinstated liquid lexapro 0.05ml/day at night, dose +/- til settling on 0.15BID (0.3/day)= windows and waves

Jan 8, 2017 too quick switch to single dose in the morning, 0.3mgs (bad mistake, led to a crash)

Jan 12 added low dose zyprexa for SI, took infrequently as rescue med, last dose Feb.15

Jan 26 lexapro 0.27mg Feb 25 lexapro updose back to 0.3mg due to unrelenting severe insomnia

March 1 insomnia worse, back down to 0.29 for one day, then 0.27, then 0.25- improving!! March 17 0.24  April 7 0.21

March 7 added low dose lamictal, adjusting dose based on response (currently ~18mgs)

Supplements: Magnesium taurate 250mg, chromium, pro-biotic, biotin, glycine 2grams PM, 1 gram AM 


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 04:51 AM

feeling a bit stronger emotionally each day

 

won't taper again til May 15th, from 0.21 to 0.20

 

Might even decide to hold a bit longer; not sure I want to rock the boat now


1974-2002 many psych meds, all types; longest used drugs include lithium, seroquel, SSRI's zoloft & celexa; many CT's off drugs

2002-2015 on varying doses of lexapro, as  high as 40 mgs, but usually 20mgs

June 2015: tapered too fast to 2.5mgs, then to 2.5mgs every other day Dec 2015:  found SA forum; holding at 2.5mgs 

Early May 2016: jumped off at 2.5mgs, not smart- crashed in late Sept.

Oct 26 2016  reinstated liquid lexapro 0.05ml/day at night, dose +/- til settling on 0.15BID (0.3/day)= windows and waves

Jan 8, 2017 too quick switch to single dose in the morning, 0.3mgs (bad mistake, led to a crash)

Jan 12 added low dose zyprexa for SI, took infrequently as rescue med, last dose Feb.15

Jan 26 lexapro 0.27mg Feb 25 lexapro updose back to 0.3mg due to unrelenting severe insomnia

March 1 insomnia worse, back down to 0.29 for one day, then 0.27, then 0.25- improving!! March 17 0.24  April 7 0.21

March 7 added low dose lamictal, adjusting dose based on response (currently ~18mgs)

Supplements: Magnesium taurate 250mg, chromium, pro-biotic, biotin, glycine 2grams PM, 1 gram AM 


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 04:54 AM

feeling a bit stronger emotionally each day
 
won't taper again til May 15th, from 0.21 to 0.20
 
Might even decide to hold a bit longer; not sure I want to rock the boat now


Great Job! Glad you're feeling a bit stronger. :)
PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Zoloft, 1997-1999; switch to Paxil, 1999-2002 ___2009 - 2015: Gabapentin, 900mg, 2010-2015: tapered of 9 weeks, last dose Sept. 2015, no symptoms ___ Lamictal, 300mg, 2009-2015, taper of 6 weeks, last dose Oct 2015,no symptoms ___ Valium, 40mg, 2008-2015, 8 week taper, last dose Dec 2015, no symptoms ___ 2016: Carafate 1mg (anti-ulcer med) 4x a day as needed. Prescribed but not taking it. ___ Prilosec 40mg; 28-Aug started 25% taper; 1-Oct 20mg a.m. + 15mg p.m. Stopped Nov 26, 2016 w/rebound acid but not too bad.---CURRENT MEDICATIONS---Supplements: 150 mg Mag chloride, 350mg Krill Oil, Milk Thistle, ProbioticFor nausea as needed: Zantac, 300mg only "as needed". Zofran 4mg for nausea; only take it when nausea is unbearable or phenegran.Xanax, 3 mg in 4 split doses, 2008-present Lexpro: 2002 - March 2016: 20 mg; Mar-Apr 2016: 8 week taper 20 mg - 10 mg; 8-June 9mg; 13-June 10 mg; 11-Sep 7.5 mg; 25-Sep 5 mg; 5-Oct 10mg; started taking Liquid Lexapro in Nov 2016; started taper with liquid 1-Jan-17 9mg; 22-Jan 8.1mg; 22-Feb 7.3 mg, (horrible nausea); 30-Mar, updosed to 7.6 (1st morning, not as much nausea, hopefully it will get better); nausea was brutal; 6-April, updosed to 7.9mg, hoping nausea will let up; nausea stopped on 14-April for 2 days so far; 17-April nausea started back up :( stopped supplements on 10-April

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 05:14 AM

over did things a bit yesterday, got the ringing in my ears again and some visual issues.

 

it's hard to continue to keep my activities scaled back to avoid symptoms, when I'm feeling better, I kind of want to make up for lost time

:/

 

rainy day today, so it's a good day to take it easy. Do a Mindfulness class in the afternoon, and maybe sit and crochet a bit. :)


1974-2002 many psych meds, all types; longest used drugs include lithium, seroquel, SSRI's zoloft & celexa; many CT's off drugs

2002-2015 on varying doses of lexapro, as  high as 40 mgs, but usually 20mgs

June 2015: tapered too fast to 2.5mgs, then to 2.5mgs every other day Dec 2015:  found SA forum; holding at 2.5mgs 

Early May 2016: jumped off at 2.5mgs, not smart- crashed in late Sept.

Oct 26 2016  reinstated liquid lexapro 0.05ml/day at night, dose +/- til settling on 0.15BID (0.3/day)= windows and waves

Jan 8, 2017 too quick switch to single dose in the morning, 0.3mgs (bad mistake, led to a crash)

Jan 12 added low dose zyprexa for SI, took infrequently as rescue med, last dose Feb.15

Jan 26 lexapro 0.27mg Feb 25 lexapro updose back to 0.3mg due to unrelenting severe insomnia

March 1 insomnia worse, back down to 0.29 for one day, then 0.27, then 0.25- improving!! March 17 0.24  April 7 0.21

March 7 added low dose lamictal, adjusting dose based on response (currently ~18mgs)

Supplements: Magnesium taurate 250mg, chromium, pro-biotic, biotin, glycine 2grams PM, 1 gram AM 


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Posted 22 April 2017 - 08:34 AM

absolutely no motivation to do anything today :/

 

haven't been sleeping too well, I get super tired early, like around 8pm, and have been falling asleep for an hour, like last night, it was from 9 to 10 pm, then fell asleep again from around 11 to midnight but basically awake the rest of the night

 

guess these would be waves, eh?

:P

 

I have to remind myself that previous waves were much worse. that's not really making me feel a whole lot better right this moment, however.

 

what can I say? I think we all get a bit "greedy", if you will, for things to get good and STAY good.

 

oh well, this will all be over someday, right?


1974-2002 many psych meds, all types; longest used drugs include lithium, seroquel, SSRI's zoloft & celexa; many CT's off drugs

2002-2015 on varying doses of lexapro, as  high as 40 mgs, but usually 20mgs

June 2015: tapered too fast to 2.5mgs, then to 2.5mgs every other day Dec 2015:  found SA forum; holding at 2.5mgs 

Early May 2016: jumped off at 2.5mgs, not smart- crashed in late Sept.

Oct 26 2016  reinstated liquid lexapro 0.05ml/day at night, dose +/- til settling on 0.15BID (0.3/day)= windows and waves

Jan 8, 2017 too quick switch to single dose in the morning, 0.3mgs (bad mistake, led to a crash)

Jan 12 added low dose zyprexa for SI, took infrequently as rescue med, last dose Feb.15

Jan 26 lexapro 0.27mg Feb 25 lexapro updose back to 0.3mg due to unrelenting severe insomnia

March 1 insomnia worse, back down to 0.29 for one day, then 0.27, then 0.25- improving!! March 17 0.24  April 7 0.21

March 7 added low dose lamictal, adjusting dose based on response (currently ~18mgs)

Supplements: Magnesium taurate 250mg, chromium, pro-biotic, biotin, glycine 2grams PM, 1 gram AM 


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Posted 22 April 2017 - 09:09 AM

It's great that you found a supplement that works for your sleep and are continuing to see improvements with your symptoms. Is the glycine still working for you  re : sleep ?  I'm not sure of the dose for glycine but this discussion may help : 

 

http://survivinganti...cine-for-sleep/


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Posted 22 April 2017 - 01:00 PM

Hi Catnapt -

Sorry you are having issues with sleep . But it could be just some waves . This is not a permanent thing and will pass for sure . Stay patient and accepting this will pass . I tend to get gready too when I feel good I expect so much more and then when things go down the hill I get disappointed but I need to remember that nothing is permanent and this will pass.

You will feel better soon I can feel it !
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  • Lexapro 20 mg 2007 - 2013 with various attempts to stop.  Most lasted 3 months, was forced to reinstate due to severe symptoms 
  • 2013 found a new Dr and started trying other medications: Prozac, Notryptoline, Effexor, Buspar, Gabapentin, Paxil (each med about 2-4 months).  
  • MOI Nardil  2014 - 2015
  • Lexapro 15 mg 2015 - 04/2016
  • Vibryiid 10 - 15mg 05/16-06/16 

Started to withdraw from Vibryiid around mid -June'16 with last dose in in July. Felt pretty good for the whole summer. Some anxiety, dizziness, short fuse, some weakness but okay overall. Comes October - dizziness, spinning, off balance feeling, FATIGUE, anxiety, fear, racing thoughts, insomnia, DP/DR

 

Reinstated 10/31/16 at 2.5 mg lexapro, then increased to 5 mg  Some relief, sleep better, severe DP/DR decreased.  Still very anxious, exhausted, dizzy. 

Switched 12/26/16 Luvox 50 mg (25 mg am and 25 mg pm).  Dizziness, exhaustion, anxiety, DP/DR

1/13/17 switched to one dose of Luvox 50 mg before bed.  EXHAUSTED, dizzy, weakness, off balance, anxiety, DP/DR

1/20/17 Luvox 37.5 mg PM.  Main symptoms: FATIGUE, dizziness, DP/DR, anxiety 

 

Supplements: iron, fish oil, vitamin D, methyl folate, Mitochondiral NRG (for fatigue)


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Posted 22 April 2017 - 03:45 PM

It's great that you found a supplement that works for your sleep and are continuing to see improvements with your symptoms. Is the glycine still working for you  re : sleep ?  I'm not sure of the dose for glycine but this discussion may help : 

 

http://survivinganti...cine-for-sleep/

 

The glycine def seems to make me feel more relaxed, so the sleep I do get feels like it's deeper or more refreshing.

I don't know for sure that it helps me sleep, esp now that I've had some sleepless nights while taking it :P

I did up the dose, I started at 500mgs at night only, added 500mgs in the morning because it helps a lot with early morning anxiety

Then I forgot that 500mgs is half a capsule and took an entire capsule one night (1000mgs) and felt even more relaxed, so I added another full capsule in the morning.

 

thanks for that link!! I did read that discussion but had forgotten a few things, such as glycine helping you feel cooler (it's been kind of raw here, and chilly at night, and I've had to turn the heat on, which is odd. Usually I get very hot overnight, and have to sleep in a light nightshirt, but the past few nights I've needed a heavy blanket and full pjs)

 

I also forgot that people were taking as much as 3 grams- I'm guessing that's 3 of the 1000mg tablets?

so perhaps I could try taking 2 full capsules tonight to see if that helps.

 

I didn't get much done today, too tired. I did actually fall asleep for about a half hour!! that has not happened, I think, in almost a year, that I've been able to nap during the day. it wasn't long but it was sweet!

 

I try not to stress about it, but I sure do hope tonight is better.

today was a crappy crappy day!!


1974-2002 many psych meds, all types; longest used drugs include lithium, seroquel, SSRI's zoloft & celexa; many CT's off drugs

2002-2015 on varying doses of lexapro, as  high as 40 mgs, but usually 20mgs

June 2015: tapered too fast to 2.5mgs, then to 2.5mgs every other day Dec 2015:  found SA forum; holding at 2.5mgs 

Early May 2016: jumped off at 2.5mgs, not smart- crashed in late Sept.

Oct 26 2016  reinstated liquid lexapro 0.05ml/day at night, dose +/- til settling on 0.15BID (0.3/day)= windows and waves

Jan 8, 2017 too quick switch to single dose in the morning, 0.3mgs (bad mistake, led to a crash)

Jan 12 added low dose zyprexa for SI, took infrequently as rescue med, last dose Feb.15

Jan 26 lexapro 0.27mg Feb 25 lexapro updose back to 0.3mg due to unrelenting severe insomnia

March 1 insomnia worse, back down to 0.29 for one day, then 0.27, then 0.25- improving!! March 17 0.24  April 7 0.21

March 7 added low dose lamictal, adjusting dose based on response (currently ~18mgs)

Supplements: Magnesium taurate 250mg, chromium, pro-biotic, biotin, glycine 2grams PM, 1 gram AM 


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Posted 22 April 2017 - 03:48 PM

Hi Catnapt -

Sorry you are having issues with sleep . But it could be just some waves . This is not a permanent thing and will pass for sure . Stay patient and accepting this will pass . I tend to get gready too when I feel good I expect so much more and then when things go down the hill I get disappointed but I need to remember that nothing is permanent and this will pass.

You will feel better soon I can feel it !
B

 

hi Blondie,

thanks for your input, yeh probably waves :P

oh joy!

I don't usually worry that the bad times are permanent, but if they last more than a few days, I worry that maybe I'm doing something "wrong"- such as missing a dose of some supplement, or eating too close to bedtime, or ....? or who knows what!!
I tend to think that if I"m not doing well, it's my FAULT somehow.

 

when it's probably just an unavoidable wave, as you said.

 

yeh it will pass!!

maybe my brain is healing some spots that really need it, and I'll be feeling even better when this wave is over.

One can only hope, eh?

;-)
 


1974-2002 many psych meds, all types; longest used drugs include lithium, seroquel, SSRI's zoloft & celexa; many CT's off drugs

2002-2015 on varying doses of lexapro, as  high as 40 mgs, but usually 20mgs

June 2015: tapered too fast to 2.5mgs, then to 2.5mgs every other day Dec 2015:  found SA forum; holding at 2.5mgs 

Early May 2016: jumped off at 2.5mgs, not smart- crashed in late Sept.

Oct 26 2016  reinstated liquid lexapro 0.05ml/day at night, dose +/- til settling on 0.15BID (0.3/day)= windows and waves

Jan 8, 2017 too quick switch to single dose in the morning, 0.3mgs (bad mistake, led to a crash)

Jan 12 added low dose zyprexa for SI, took infrequently as rescue med, last dose Feb.15

Jan 26 lexapro 0.27mg Feb 25 lexapro updose back to 0.3mg due to unrelenting severe insomnia

March 1 insomnia worse, back down to 0.29 for one day, then 0.27, then 0.25- improving!! March 17 0.24  April 7 0.21

March 7 added low dose lamictal, adjusting dose based on response (currently ~18mgs)

Supplements: Magnesium taurate 250mg, chromium, pro-biotic, biotin, glycine 2grams PM, 1 gram AM 


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Posted 23 April 2017 - 04:09 AM

I tried taking 2 of the 1000mg capsules of glycine last night and finally got some sleep. fell asleep around er, 9 or 9:30pm or so?  woke up several times, as is common for me, but I got back to sleep much easier and faster than before, that was nice. :)

 

 

was woken up at 4am with is this odd internal shaking- this is I think the 3rd time this has happened.

luckily I've seen others mention it, so I know it's a WD symptom but boy, is it weird!

 

been awake since 4am  but not feeling too bad as I got more sleep than I normally do, lol

hey, any improvement is a happy thing for me

:)

 

I'm liking how the glycine seems to help. I just hope that it does not go "paradoxical" on me, like so many other things have


1974-2002 many psych meds, all types; longest used drugs include lithium, seroquel, SSRI's zoloft & celexa; many CT's off drugs

2002-2015 on varying doses of lexapro, as  high as 40 mgs, but usually 20mgs

June 2015: tapered too fast to 2.5mgs, then to 2.5mgs every other day Dec 2015:  found SA forum; holding at 2.5mgs 

Early May 2016: jumped off at 2.5mgs, not smart- crashed in late Sept.

Oct 26 2016  reinstated liquid lexapro 0.05ml/day at night, dose +/- til settling on 0.15BID (0.3/day)= windows and waves

Jan 8, 2017 too quick switch to single dose in the morning, 0.3mgs (bad mistake, led to a crash)

Jan 12 added low dose zyprexa for SI, took infrequently as rescue med, last dose Feb.15

Jan 26 lexapro 0.27mg Feb 25 lexapro updose back to 0.3mg due to unrelenting severe insomnia

March 1 insomnia worse, back down to 0.29 for one day, then 0.27, then 0.25- improving!! March 17 0.24  April 7 0.21

March 7 added low dose lamictal, adjusting dose based on response (currently ~18mgs)

Supplements: Magnesium taurate 250mg, chromium, pro-biotic, biotin, glycine 2grams PM, 1 gram AM 


#733 ShakeyJerr

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 10:45 AM

My wife called all around. We couldn't find glycine, but she finally found a place with theanine. She's out getting that now. Hopefully I will get some relief.

 

I'm glad the glycine is working for you. I'll probably give it a try at some point, but I'll have to order it from Amazon.


Dates are tentative (my memory is shot)...

Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003 (I don't remember the dosages). Went off but developed symptoms so put back on after 4 months.

Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) some time in 2010 (I think). Did a self-taper during 2016 after losing insurance. Been off since around the beginning of 2017.

Developed Discontinuation Syndrome beginning with uncontrolled/unexplained crying in 02/17.

Moved on to full-blow symptoms from there. Been really bad since late 03/17.


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Posted 23 April 2017 - 11:44 AM

My wife called all around. We couldn't find glycine, but she finally found a place with theanine. She's out getting that now. Hopefully I will get some relief.

 

I'm glad the glycine is working for you. I'll probably give it a try at some point, but I'll have to order it from Amazon.

I hope you find something that helps. Just the distraction of looking for something can help you get thru the roughest patches.

I sent you a link in a PM that may help. I find it helps a lot when things are really bad.

 

You're going to get thru this. It sucks but it won't last forever, ok?


1974-2002 many psych meds, all types; longest used drugs include lithium, seroquel, SSRI's zoloft & celexa; many CT's off drugs

2002-2015 on varying doses of lexapro, as  high as 40 mgs, but usually 20mgs

June 2015: tapered too fast to 2.5mgs, then to 2.5mgs every other day Dec 2015:  found SA forum; holding at 2.5mgs 

Early May 2016: jumped off at 2.5mgs, not smart- crashed in late Sept.

Oct 26 2016  reinstated liquid lexapro 0.05ml/day at night, dose +/- til settling on 0.15BID (0.3/day)= windows and waves

Jan 8, 2017 too quick switch to single dose in the morning, 0.3mgs (bad mistake, led to a crash)

Jan 12 added low dose zyprexa for SI, took infrequently as rescue med, last dose Feb.15

Jan 26 lexapro 0.27mg Feb 25 lexapro updose back to 0.3mg due to unrelenting severe insomnia

March 1 insomnia worse, back down to 0.29 for one day, then 0.27, then 0.25- improving!! March 17 0.24  April 7 0.21

March 7 added low dose lamictal, adjusting dose based on response (currently ~18mgs)

Supplements: Magnesium taurate 250mg, chromium, pro-biotic, biotin, glycine 2grams PM, 1 gram AM 


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Posted 24 April 2017 - 05:27 AM

I tried Theanine yesterday and today. They only had the 200mg at GNC. It kind of made me agitated for a short while, and I don;t feel like I got a good bounce, not even like when I just drink decaf black tea, which has at most around 20mg of theanine (but that was starting not to work to calm me down). So I think I have to maybe try tomorrow opening the theanine capsule and spreading it out in my tea over the course of the day.

 

If that doesn't help, then it's goodbye theanine.

 

Right now I'm in day 4 of this extreme anxiety jag. I am at work today. God I hope I make it through the day!

 

Thanks for all of your help, catnapt! It helps keep me going!

 

SJ


Dates are tentative (my memory is shot)...

Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003 (I don't remember the dosages). Went off but developed symptoms so put back on after 4 months.

Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) some time in 2010 (I think). Did a self-taper during 2016 after losing insurance. Been off since around the beginning of 2017.

Developed Discontinuation Syndrome beginning with uncontrolled/unexplained crying in 02/17.

Moved on to full-blow symptoms from there. Been really bad since late 03/17.


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Posted 24 April 2017 - 10:23 AM

I tried Theanine yesterday and today. They only had the 200mg at GNC. It kind of made me agitated for a short while, and I don;t feel like I got a good bounce, not even like when I just drink decaf black tea, which has at most around 20mg of theanine (but that was starting not to work to calm me down). So I think I have to maybe try tomorrow opening the theanine capsule and spreading it out in my tea over the course of the day.

 

If that doesn't help, then it's goodbye theanine.

 

Right now I'm in day 4 of this extreme anxiety jag. I am at work today. God I hope I make it through the day!

 

Thanks for all of your help, catnapt! It helps keep me going!

 

SJ

 

 

yeh Theanine did something to me, I can't even describe, but I don't think it was a good thing.  :/

I guess it's an individual thing.

 

Do you do slow deep breathing? that give you a few moments relief from the anxiety, AND the more often you do it, the longer the effects last, so that eventually, you will be able to get 20 mins or even more, of calm, out of just a short session of deep breathing.

 

there's several different techniques but the easiest one to remember is the square breathing. This can be done anywhere, at any time (unless you're in the middle of a conversation, that is, unless the person is willing to wait. I've actually asked someone to wait while I breathe and calm myself down before we continue our conversation. Some people are ok with it, esp if you explain you're going thru a rough time or have a lot of anxiety/stress building up. who can't relate to that, right? ;-)

 

here's how to do square breathing:

 

Square breathing produces amazing positive results whenever you are feeling anxious, nervous, excited or fearful and you would like to calm your self.

  • Breathe in to a count of four.
  • Hold to a count of four.
  • Breathe out to a count of four.
  • Again hold to a count of four.

Then repeat the same process over until you reach a calm state.

It’s simple, easy and very effective.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

this works even if you can only do it  a couple of times, but as I said, the more often you do it, the better.
It also serves as a great distraction.


1974-2002 many psych meds, all types; longest used drugs include lithium, seroquel, SSRI's zoloft & celexa; many CT's off drugs

2002-2015 on varying doses of lexapro, as  high as 40 mgs, but usually 20mgs

June 2015: tapered too fast to 2.5mgs, then to 2.5mgs every other day Dec 2015:  found SA forum; holding at 2.5mgs 

Early May 2016: jumped off at 2.5mgs, not smart- crashed in late Sept.

Oct 26 2016  reinstated liquid lexapro 0.05ml/day at night, dose +/- til settling on 0.15BID (0.3/day)= windows and waves

Jan 8, 2017 too quick switch to single dose in the morning, 0.3mgs (bad mistake, led to a crash)

Jan 12 added low dose zyprexa for SI, took infrequently as rescue med, last dose Feb.15

Jan 26 lexapro 0.27mg Feb 25 lexapro updose back to 0.3mg due to unrelenting severe insomnia

March 1 insomnia worse, back down to 0.29 for one day, then 0.27, then 0.25- improving!! March 17 0.24  April 7 0.21

March 7 added low dose lamictal, adjusting dose based on response (currently ~18mgs)

Supplements: Magnesium taurate 250mg, chromium, pro-biotic, biotin, glycine 2grams PM, 1 gram AM 


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Posted 24 April 2017 - 10:30 AM

short update:

so far, the glycine has been great, esp the two I take at night now.

I am taking one in the morning and on most days, that makes the morning a lot nicer.

 

But today had some mild to moderate anxiety before noon, that seemed to magically disappear at noon. weird LOL

Now I"m not sure if I should increase the morning glycine or maybe only take it at night, and take all 3 capsules at night.

I still wake up at 4 am and cant' get back to sleep. That's when I take another glycine capsule.

 

However, I am going to bed earlier each night, it seems LOL so I think I am actually getting more sleep. The earlier sleep, from before midnight, is my deepest and best sleep, it seems. after that, it's not as good, I wake up a lot more and cant get back to sleep as easily.

 

Last night I am pretty sure I fell asleep by 9 pm and slept pretty well til after midnight, got up once to go to the bathroom and fell right back to sleep til around 4 am!

so wow, that's around 7 hrs sleep!

 

one down side to sleeping longer is that I am sleeping long enough to have REM sleep, and have had some trauma related nightmares. The one I had last night was pretty disturbing. Hmm, maybe that's where the morning anxiety came from??

 

I hope that anyone reading this is doing well and that you know that you are healing, and whatever you may be going thru right now, whatever difficult symptoms, they will pass.

things are going to get better.

 

:)


1974-2002 many psych meds, all types; longest used drugs include lithium, seroquel, SSRI's zoloft & celexa; many CT's off drugs

2002-2015 on varying doses of lexapro, as  high as 40 mgs, but usually 20mgs

June 2015: tapered too fast to 2.5mgs, then to 2.5mgs every other day Dec 2015:  found SA forum; holding at 2.5mgs 

Early May 2016: jumped off at 2.5mgs, not smart- crashed in late Sept.

Oct 26 2016  reinstated liquid lexapro 0.05ml/day at night, dose +/- til settling on 0.15BID (0.3/day)= windows and waves

Jan 8, 2017 too quick switch to single dose in the morning, 0.3mgs (bad mistake, led to a crash)

Jan 12 added low dose zyprexa for SI, took infrequently as rescue med, last dose Feb.15

Jan 26 lexapro 0.27mg Feb 25 lexapro updose back to 0.3mg due to unrelenting severe insomnia

March 1 insomnia worse, back down to 0.29 for one day, then 0.27, then 0.25- improving!! March 17 0.24  April 7 0.21

March 7 added low dose lamictal, adjusting dose based on response (currently ~18mgs)

Supplements: Magnesium taurate 250mg, chromium, pro-biotic, biotin, glycine 2grams PM, 1 gram AM 


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Posted 24 April 2017 - 11:15 AM

 

I tried Theanine yesterday and today. They only had the 200mg at GNC. It kind of made me agitated for a short while, and I don;t feel like I got a good bounce, not even like when I just drink decaf black tea, which has at most around 20mg of theanine (but that was starting not to work to calm me down). So I think I have to maybe try tomorrow opening the theanine capsule and spreading it out in my tea over the course of the day.

 

If that doesn't help, then it's goodbye theanine.

 

Right now I'm in day 4 of this extreme anxiety jag. I am at work today. God I hope I make it through the day!

 

Thanks for all of your help, catnapt! It helps keep me going!

 

SJ

 

 

yeh Theanine did something to me, I can't even describe, but I don't think it was a good thing.  :/

I guess it's an individual thing.

 

Do you do slow deep breathing? that give you a few moments relief from the anxiety, AND the more often you do it, the longer the effects last, so that eventually, you will be able to get 20 mins or even more, of calm, out of just a short session of deep breathing.

 

there's several different techniques but the easiest one to remember is the square breathing. This can be done anywhere, at any time (unless you're in the middle of a conversation, that is, unless the person is willing to wait. I've actually asked someone to wait while I breathe and calm myself down before we continue our conversation. Some people are ok with it, esp if you explain you're going thru a rough time or have a lot of anxiety/stress building up. who can't relate to that, right? ;-)

 

here's how to do square breathing:

 

Square breathing produces amazing positive results whenever you are feeling anxious, nervous, excited or fearful and you would like to calm your self.

  • Breathe in to a count of four.
  • Hold to a count of four.
  • Breathe out to a count of four.
  • Again hold to a count of four.

Then repeat the same process over until you reach a calm state.

It’s simple, easy and very effective.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

this works even if you can only do it  a couple of times, but as I said, the more often you do it, the better.
It also serves as a great distraction.

 

 

 

I do deep breathing - when I remember to breath...!

 

I'll try this technique.

 

SJ


Dates are tentative (my memory is shot)...

Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003 (I don't remember the dosages). Went off but developed symptoms so put back on after 4 months.

Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) some time in 2010 (I think). Did a self-taper during 2016 after losing insurance. Been off since around the beginning of 2017.

Developed Discontinuation Syndrome beginning with uncontrolled/unexplained crying in 02/17.

Moved on to full-blow symptoms from there. Been really bad since late 03/17.


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Posted 24 April 2017 - 11:29 AM

 

I do deep breathing - when I remember to breath...!

 

I'll try this technique.

 

SJ

 

 

yeh that's my problem too, remembering to breathe!! LOL

It makes a huge difference.

You think it won't, how could something so simple really help? but it does.

 

not saying it will take away all the anxiety but it should at least give you some moments that are more bearable.

 

 


1974-2002 many psych meds, all types; longest used drugs include lithium, seroquel, SSRI's zoloft & celexa; many CT's off drugs

2002-2015 on varying doses of lexapro, as  high as 40 mgs, but usually 20mgs

June 2015: tapered too fast to 2.5mgs, then to 2.5mgs every other day Dec 2015:  found SA forum; holding at 2.5mgs 

Early May 2016: jumped off at 2.5mgs, not smart- crashed in late Sept.

Oct 26 2016  reinstated liquid lexapro 0.05ml/day at night, dose +/- til settling on 0.15BID (0.3/day)= windows and waves

Jan 8, 2017 too quick switch to single dose in the morning, 0.3mgs (bad mistake, led to a crash)

Jan 12 added low dose zyprexa for SI, took infrequently as rescue med, last dose Feb.15

Jan 26 lexapro 0.27mg Feb 25 lexapro updose back to 0.3mg due to unrelenting severe insomnia

March 1 insomnia worse, back down to 0.29 for one day, then 0.27, then 0.25- improving!! March 17 0.24  April 7 0.21

March 7 added low dose lamictal, adjusting dose based on response (currently ~18mgs)

Supplements: Magnesium taurate 250mg, chromium, pro-biotic, biotin, glycine 2grams PM, 1 gram AM 


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Posted 27 April 2017 - 02:44 PM

hmm, 7 hrs of sleep last night and no morning anxiety, didn't even take any gylcine this morning.

 

still having mini waves, mind you, but doing so much better

 

this keeping thing steady and stable seems to be working out well.

makes me think I'll just stay at 0.21mgs for... forever.

 

I need to sort out  if the issues I'm having are from the HUGE changes I've made in my life in the past 3/4 of a year, or if they are wd/drug related.

it's really hard to know.

 

 

starting therapy tomorrow for PTSD, please wish me luck!


1974-2002 many psych meds, all types; longest used drugs include lithium, seroquel, SSRI's zoloft & celexa; many CT's off drugs

2002-2015 on varying doses of lexapro, as  high as 40 mgs, but usually 20mgs

June 2015: tapered too fast to 2.5mgs, then to 2.5mgs every other day Dec 2015:  found SA forum; holding at 2.5mgs 

Early May 2016: jumped off at 2.5mgs, not smart- crashed in late Sept.

Oct 26 2016  reinstated liquid lexapro 0.05ml/day at night, dose +/- til settling on 0.15BID (0.3/day)= windows and waves

Jan 8, 2017 too quick switch to single dose in the morning, 0.3mgs (bad mistake, led to a crash)

Jan 12 added low dose zyprexa for SI, took infrequently as rescue med, last dose Feb.15

Jan 26 lexapro 0.27mg Feb 25 lexapro updose back to 0.3mg due to unrelenting severe insomnia

March 1 insomnia worse, back down to 0.29 for one day, then 0.27, then 0.25- improving!! March 17 0.24  April 7 0.21

March 7 added low dose lamictal, adjusting dose based on response (currently ~18mgs)

Supplements: Magnesium taurate 250mg, chromium, pro-biotic, biotin, glycine 2grams PM, 1 gram AM 


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Posted 27 April 2017 - 02:59 PM

Awesome! Sounds like you might have hit a sweet spot.

sj

Dates are tentative (my memory is shot)...

Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003 (I don't remember the dosages). Went off but developed symptoms so put back on after 4 months.

Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) some time in 2010 (I think). Did a self-taper during 2016 after losing insurance. Been off since around the beginning of 2017.

Developed Discontinuation Syndrome beginning with uncontrolled/unexplained crying in 02/17.

Moved on to full-blow symptoms from there. Been really bad since late 03/17.


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Posted 27 April 2017 - 03:08 PM

Awesome! Sounds like you might have hit a sweet spot.

sj

 

 

I hope so!!

although I must say, since reinstating a small dose back in late October, I have steadily gotten better and better. I went from over 40 severe symptoms to just a very few that are fairly mild.

 

the insomnia was the thing that's held on the longest and now I am able to sleep 5 to even 7 hrs sometimes at night.

it's great!
I sleep long enough to dream. I think my brain will heal better now that I am dreaming, I always heard that REM sleep is important, although I can't recall what exactly it's important for. I want to say it's got something to do with memory but er, I can't remember HAHAHA

 

I'll have to look it up.

 

how you doin SJ?


1974-2002 many psych meds, all types; longest used drugs include lithium, seroquel, SSRI's zoloft & celexa; many CT's off drugs

2002-2015 on varying doses of lexapro, as  high as 40 mgs, but usually 20mgs

June 2015: tapered too fast to 2.5mgs, then to 2.5mgs every other day Dec 2015:  found SA forum; holding at 2.5mgs 

Early May 2016: jumped off at 2.5mgs, not smart- crashed in late Sept.

Oct 26 2016  reinstated liquid lexapro 0.05ml/day at night, dose +/- til settling on 0.15BID (0.3/day)= windows and waves

Jan 8, 2017 too quick switch to single dose in the morning, 0.3mgs (bad mistake, led to a crash)

Jan 12 added low dose zyprexa for SI, took infrequently as rescue med, last dose Feb.15

Jan 26 lexapro 0.27mg Feb 25 lexapro updose back to 0.3mg due to unrelenting severe insomnia

March 1 insomnia worse, back down to 0.29 for one day, then 0.27, then 0.25- improving!! March 17 0.24  April 7 0.21

March 7 added low dose lamictal, adjusting dose based on response (currently ~18mgs)

Supplements: Magnesium taurate 250mg, chromium, pro-biotic, biotin, glycine 2grams PM, 1 gram AM 


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Posted 27 April 2017 - 03:20 PM

Wow! 7 hrs sleep!  Good for you.  I hope it continues to improve.

 

All the best.


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Naturethroid: 65 mcg

Seroquel:  June 14 - July 24, 25 mg alternate nights; July 25-30, 12mg most nights; Sept 1-12, no more than 10 mg for 7 nights. D/C Sept 12.  Severe wd., Dec 7  reinstate 2 mg, Dec 15 updosed to 5mg (not 10 mg as in post dated 12/12)

Trazodone: Oct 2015 - June 2016; 75 mg tapered over 2 mths, intense w/d Sx after 3 weeks. Reinstatement: 07/25/16 25 mg; 08/03/16 50mg;  10/01/16 62mg. 03/24/17 Began taper due to serotonin toxicity: 52mg

Mirtazepine: Nov 14 -17,2016 2.5mg; Nov 18-26 1.5mg to fight sedation; Nov 27-Dec 3  2.0 mg, Dec 4 updosed to 2.5, Dec 12 down to 2 mg again because of suspected serotonin syndrome (false alarm), upped again to 2.4 mg Dec 19 since withdrawal was fiercer than ever. Revised: 03/24/17 Serotonin toxicity NOT false alarm after all!  

Supplements: Fish oil and multivitamin

 

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03/24/17:  Began tapering traz - 52mg;  intense wd sxs by week 5


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Posted 27 April 2017 - 03:26 PM

Wow! 7 hrs sleep!  Good for you.  I hope it continues to improve.

 

All the best.

thanks! me too! :)


1974-2002 many psych meds, all types; longest used drugs include lithium, seroquel, SSRI's zoloft & celexa; many CT's off drugs

2002-2015 on varying doses of lexapro, as  high as 40 mgs, but usually 20mgs

June 2015: tapered too fast to 2.5mgs, then to 2.5mgs every other day Dec 2015:  found SA forum; holding at 2.5mgs 

Early May 2016: jumped off at 2.5mgs, not smart- crashed in late Sept.

Oct 26 2016  reinstated liquid lexapro 0.05ml/day at night, dose +/- til settling on 0.15BID (0.3/day)= windows and waves

Jan 8, 2017 too quick switch to single dose in the morning, 0.3mgs (bad mistake, led to a crash)

Jan 12 added low dose zyprexa for SI, took infrequently as rescue med, last dose Feb.15

Jan 26 lexapro 0.27mg Feb 25 lexapro updose back to 0.3mg due to unrelenting severe insomnia

March 1 insomnia worse, back down to 0.29 for one day, then 0.27, then 0.25- improving!! March 17 0.24  April 7 0.21

March 7 added low dose lamictal, adjusting dose based on response (currently ~18mgs)

Supplements: Magnesium taurate 250mg, chromium, pro-biotic, biotin, glycine 2grams PM, 1 gram AM 


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Posted 27 April 2017 - 03:32 PM

Hi Catnapt,

Just read your update and wowzie it is amazing about sleep! You so deserve it . I remember reading awhile back your posts and how tough it was on you with no sleep and all you hoped for just a steady solid hours of sleep and finally you caught a break! Patience acceptance and hard work paid off for sure. Very happy for you :) continuing healing to you you are one strong woman !

That's is great about therapy. Wishing you luck ! I had a few therapists earlier on and some were not so good and some were great and I just loved the fact that I can be heard and understood . It felt good to let it go off my chest and having someone to listen . I did get some good suggestions as well . Keep us posted

B
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  • 2013 found a new Dr and started trying other medications: Prozac, Notryptoline, Effexor, Buspar, Gabapentin, Paxil (each med about 2-4 months).  
  • MOI Nardil  2014 - 2015
  • Lexapro 15 mg 2015 - 04/2016
  • Vibryiid 10 - 15mg 05/16-06/16 

Started to withdraw from Vibryiid around mid -June'16 with last dose in in July. Felt pretty good for the whole summer. Some anxiety, dizziness, short fuse, some weakness but okay overall. Comes October - dizziness, spinning, off balance feeling, FATIGUE, anxiety, fear, racing thoughts, insomnia, DP/DR

 

Reinstated 10/31/16 at 2.5 mg lexapro, then increased to 5 mg  Some relief, sleep better, severe DP/DR decreased.  Still very anxious, exhausted, dizzy. 

Switched 12/26/16 Luvox 50 mg (25 mg am and 25 mg pm).  Dizziness, exhaustion, anxiety, DP/DR

1/13/17 switched to one dose of Luvox 50 mg before bed.  EXHAUSTED, dizzy, weakness, off balance, anxiety, DP/DR

1/20/17 Luvox 37.5 mg PM.  Main symptoms: FATIGUE, dizziness, DP/DR, anxiety 

 

Supplements: iron, fish oil, vitamin D, methyl folate, Mitochondiral NRG (for fatigue)


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Posted 27 April 2017 - 03:52 PM

 

Awesome! Sounds like you might have hit a sweet spot.
sj

 
 
I hope so!!
although I must say, since reinstating a small dose back in late October, I have steadily gotten better and better. I went from over 40 severe symptoms to just a very few that are fairly mild.
 
the insomnia was the thing that's held on the longest and now I am able to sleep 5 to even 7 hrs sometimes at night.
it's great!
I sleep long enough to dream. I think my brain will heal better now that I am dreaming, I always heard that REM sleep is important, although I can't recall what exactly it's important for. I want to say it's got something to do with memory but er, I can't remember HAHAHA
 
I'll have to look it up
 
how you doin SJ?

Another rough anxiety day. I'm hoping to stop at the vitamin store tomorrow and get magnesium glycinate, see if switching to that from the mag citrate helps any. Plus, a friend of my wife's swears by a homeopathic remedy called Ignatia (please see warning in following post). It gets great reviews on Amazon. But the cost per dose can run pretty high, so I don't see it as a daily long term solution, just an emergency fix.


Edited by ChessieCat, 27 April 2017 - 04:41 PM.
Added note

Dates are tentative (my memory is shot)...

Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003 (I don't remember the dosages). Went off but developed symptoms so put back on after 4 months.

Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) some time in 2010 (I think). Did a self-taper during 2016 after losing insurance. Been off since around the beginning of 2017.

Developed Discontinuation Syndrome beginning with uncontrolled/unexplained crying in 02/17.

Moved on to full-blow symptoms from there. Been really bad since late 03/17.


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Posted 27 April 2017 - 04:38 PM

Stop ShakeyJerr, do not buy that supplement with out doing a lot of research.  Please refer to my intro thread for my latest post.  (number 1079)

 

We just had a member use the supplement Nux vomica (see the paragraph quoted below) and had a very nasty reaction to it.  For people with a "normal" nervous system (such as your wife's friend) homeopathic levels of these ingredients may be relatively safe.  But for people like ourselves with highly sensitized systems they can lead to tragic results.  Even though there is a minuscule amount of the ingredient used it is still the main item used in making rat poison and is very dangerous. The ingredient you're looking at is twice as powerful as the one that harmed one of our members.

 

"It belongs to the family Loganaceae, which also produces the remedies Nux vomica, Gelsemium and Spigelia. The fruit of Ignatia amaris is a corticated berry, about ten cms in diameter, which contains numerous seeds in the middle of its yellow pulp. It has a high alkaloid content, more than 60 per cent consisting of strychnine, which is about twice as much as is found in Nux vomica."


20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mg it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

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Posted 27 April 2017 - 06:22 PM

I was feeling aprhensive about taking it. I was letting my desparation and my wife's connection with this person (and her success with it) sway my judgement. My wife is now kind of angry with me (she does, after all want me to get better and she unfortunately does not understand that I am very sensitive to what goes into my body now). I'm going to have to deal with her anger and frustration. Good thing I just read your serieson taming emotional spirals!

So, magnesium glycinate it is, then!

SJ

Dates are tentative (my memory is shot)...

Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003 (I don't remember the dosages). Went off but developed symptoms so put back on after 4 months.

Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) some time in 2010 (I think). Did a self-taper during 2016 after losing insurance. Been off since around the beginning of 2017.

Developed Discontinuation Syndrome beginning with uncontrolled/unexplained crying in 02/17.

Moved on to full-blow symptoms from there. Been really bad since late 03/17.






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