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btdt, it's great to hear the respirator is helping! 

 

Yes I am finding it helpful when the guy next door smokes his pot if I am too tired to get up and close the window I put the mask on and have slept it in more than once... it is too big really waiting on a smaller one to be delivered.  From what  I have read in reviews other with mcs find the other mask does not smell like the one I bought... 

 

I bought it in desperation it was the first one I seen... and it will keep a place in my heart for all it has spared me from so far... even if the new one is better. :)

 

I was quite surprised to see all the people with chemical sensitivities on the websites that sell respirators and they all complained about the smell ...except one older model made with different material .. the one I am now waiting on.  fingers crossed while it spared me worse I do react to the plastic it is made of... 

 

I get a lot of looks and whatever I have suffered long enough let them look... some people make a joke that has been cool so far but they may catch me on the wrong day too.. so far I am so lonely and segregated from real life for so long I would likely talk to anyone.. joke or not... could end in a fist fight in the middle of loblaws ... ha... bit of spice in the life... rambling tired going...

peace all 

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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btdt, did you get the new model?  Weird that it's made of plastic...who dreams this stuff up? 

I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions.

 

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I am much better in the area of terror I don't have terror I don't have psychotic bouts like I did I do not see things like shadows moving out of the corner of my eye..."

 

I have this now and it happens enough it is something real... I can be looking for something and it will be right in front of me and I will not see it... NOT see it and come back later and see it. 

 

when I had my eye test and could not see any letters on the letter examine there were letters there I could not see them... same deal it is a problem in my brain and not in my eyes according to the limited examinations I have had... I always hit a dead end with this one neurologist I get sent to when followup is recommended by another specialist it always goes to him first and he stops it... it all ends with him still does.

 

It is worse... it happens more often now. I am not sure what it is but it is a real thing. 


I am much better in the area of terror I don't have terror I don't have psychotic bouts like I did I do not see things like shadows moving out of the corner of my eye...

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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btdt, did you get the new model?  Weird that it's made of plastic...who dreams this stuff up? 

 

Not sure I now own three masks... the first one was msa off gassed a few days the next was some kind of plastic that was outside for days trying to destink... the third was rubber of some sort much better... last two are 3m 

 

There is one that has oxygen... I heard about it at the place where I bought that last mask... it is a grand... oxygen on your belt some how that is likely the safest bet... still a lot of loot I am not sure how it actually works. The other good point to the oxygen one is for recovery after a reaction oxygen is recommended good luck getting a doctor to recommend it .... this would actually put an end to that crap fight I am so not into fighting for anything... I am so over it.... too fing tired. 

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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oh and wrap your bed in tinfoil that was a suggestion there are a million things to do... to buy to think to learn... if I felt well enough to do all this I would not need to do it.... same old story I guess...

 

peace all 

 

happy new year if I don't get back. 

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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Happy new year btdt.

Wishing you much healing for 2017.

Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen

We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. 

URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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Thanks for the info you left on my page. Really appreciate you thinking of me. Hope next year we see some changes somewhere. Thinking of you.

2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription.

Severe adverse reaction

Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on.

Poop out - December 2013

15mg

Currently on 13.5mg,

April 12mg

May 10th - 11mg

June 10th - 10mg

July 8th - 9mg

September - 0mg

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Hey B. I remember u mentioning mcs and thought of u when reading about limbic retraining. Miraculous recoveries..sorry if u already know about this.

http://limbicretraining.com/

Intermittent Klonopin use February, 2014 to September, 2015

- Off of SSRIs completely since April, 2012 

- Had horrible side effects from Celexa (constant feelings of terror, insomnia) so stopped taking it after 6 weeks

- Started 20 mg of Celexa in February 2012

- Began to taper off of Zoloft in May, 2011, off Zoloft completely September, 2011

- Increased Zoloft to 75 mg October, 2010 and decreased back to 50 mg in February, 2011

- June 2009- Went on 50 mg of Zoloft

- October, 2007 - July, 2008- Celexa 20 mgs (tapered off fairly quickly)

- 2006-2007- On Effoxor for about 8 months- switched to Prozac and cold turkeyed off

- 2005- Paxil and Lamictal for a few months but stopped taking because it didn't work

- 2004- Paxil for a few months but quit taking because of increased feelings of depression

 

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Hey B. I remember u mentioning mcs and thought of u when reading about limbic retraining. Miraculous recoveries..sorry if u already know about this.

http://limbicretraining.com/

Ya a lot of sites talk about it I have researched it before... kind of reminds of cbt for fibro... I had fibro since 94 that was my dx year so thirty years of crap has left me a bit na I don't think I will buy any bs today I bought enough

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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Happy new year btdt.

Wishing you much healing for 2017.

Thanks NZ there are days I think there is no place to go but up and am hopeful.. other days I can't get up and all that goes to hell. 

Time will tell I guess. I have had some help from supplements and a mask to block chemicals has helped so that is something a huge trade off tho as feeling like I am making a spectacle of myself any time I want to go outside eventually wears a person down.  I am tired of answering peoples questions and of kids being afraid of me... yet the mask is needed hence the trade off. 

 

I sure hope you keep going full steam ahead your doing  beautifully like we all hope to be doing.  Don't waste a bit of it NZ and thank you for your support here it is appreciated. 

Happy New Year :) 

peace

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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Thanks for the info you left on my page. Really appreciate you thinking of me. Hope next year we see some changes somewhere. Thinking of you.

I keep hoping for better too I guess hope is something we should try to keep since we are missing so many of lifes other positives.  Exactly the reason hope it hard to do at times... maybe stages as there have been times I have had no hope and then it changed.  Now I am wondering if it will change again... time will tell I guess. 

 

I looked up prognosis for mcs seems nobody knows so I guess I wait and see like I have been doing the last ten years. That is not much to look forward to but I am doing small things in hope of changing my lot waiting again to see if any seeds grow. 

wishing you peace Muddles

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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I found an old drug slip from the month I sold my house and did not know I had sold it.....  I checked the drug interactions...

 

Serious - Use Alternative
  • citalopram + venlafaxine

    citalopram and venlafaxine both increase serotonin levels. Avoid or Use Alternate Drug. Combination may increase risk of serotonin syndrome or neuroleptic malignant syndrome-like reactions.

  • ferrous fumarate + norfloxacin

    ferrous fumarate decreases levels of norfloxacin by inhibition of GI absorption. Applies only to oral form of both agents. Avoid or Use Alternate Drug.

Monitor Closely
  • fluconazole + citalopram

    fluconazole will increase the level or effect of citalopram by affecting hepatic enzyme CYP2C19 metabolism. Use Caution/Monitor. Citalopram 20 mg/day is the maximum recommended dose for patients taking CYP2C19 inhibitors because of the risk of QT prolongation. ECG monitoring is recommended, along with drugs that may prolong the QT interval.

  • citalopram + celecoxib

    citalopram, celecoxib. Either increases toxicity of the other by pharmacodynamic synergism. Use Caution/Monitor. Increased risk of upper GI bleeding. If possible, avoid concurrent use.

  • venlafaxine + celecoxib

    venlafaxine, celecoxib. Either increases toxicity of the other by pharmacodynamic synergism. Use Caution/Monitor. Increased risk of upper GI bleeding. SSRIs inhib. serotonin uptake by platelets.

  • norfloxacin + citalopram

    norfloxacin and citalopram both increase QTc interval. Use Caution/Monitor. ECG monitoring is recommended, along with drugs that may prolong the QT interval.

  • fluconazole + venlafaxine

    fluconazole and venlafaxine both increase QTc interval. Modify Therapy/Monitor Closely.

  • rabeprazole + ferrous fumarate

    rabeprazole will decrease the level or effect of ferrous fumarate by increasing gastric pH. Applies only to oral form of both agents. Use Caution/Monitor.

Minor
  • fluconazole + rabeprazole

    fluconazole will increase the level or effect of rabeprazole by affecting hepatic enzyme CYP2C19 metabolism. Minor/Significance Unknown.

  • fluconazole + celecoxib

    fluconazole will increase the level or effect of celecoxib by affecting hepatic enzyme CYP2C9/10 metabolism. Minor/Significance Unknown.

  • metronidazole + celecoxib

    metronidazole will increase the level or effect of celecoxib by affecting hepatic enzyme CYP2C9/10 metabolism. Minor/Significance Unknown.

  • fluconazole + rabeprazole

    fluconazole will increase the level or effect of rabeprazole by affecting hepatic/intestinal enzyme CYP3A4 metabolism. Minor/Significance Unknown.

  • norfloxacin + celecoxib

    norfloxacin, celecoxib. Other (see comment). Minor/Significance Unknown. Comment: Risk of CNS stimulation/seizure. Mechanism: Displacement of GABA from receptors in brain.

oh and according to 23 and me I can't metabolize CYP2C19 drugs.... 

 

good bye life as you know it

 

I had already had the gastro bleed by this time so am quite curious why the celebrex was still on my drug list... had viox too at the time of the bleed. 

 

it is crazy... I had no computer then... the internet has the power to save some lives if people get aware enough to check their drugs.

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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I learned yesterday at the environmental clinic that multiple chemical sensitivity is not a legitimate disorder or disease tho they told me this is what I have... does that make their clinic illegitimate I wonder... they still get paid and have a life more then I can say for me but whatever sour grapes never looked good on me.  

MCS is supposedly the cause of my movement disorder if not the cause chemicals certainly make it worse I have no tolerance for them and will shake apart and jerk uncontrollably to the point of being bed ridden after exposure. It is very obviously connected.... 

 

since MCS is a illegitimate disorder or disease process there is no treatment for it by mainstream medicine what there is for treatment is a bit sketchy costly not available quickly.... the one center I can find has yet again a 2 year waiting list...

 

so if I manage to stick around 2 more years maybe I movement disorder clinic apt or a very expensive spot at an alternative clinic could offer me some sort of service... 

 

this is where I am at for anyone interested. 

 

In the mean time when I am able working on self hacking and fixing myself wish me luck. 

 

healing and peace to all

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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Healing and peace to you too! Lots of healing! I'm sending it with all my might. You never know, we don't know much about anything right. My healing thoughts could well help. <3 

 

Maybe that sounds a bit.. Silly. But well, sometimes we have to be.. .Silly. OR not perfect. I am reaching out in the only way  I know how. 

 

And healing and peace... Is beautiful

We don't know what we don't know but I will gladly accept your offer healing and peace you send far quicker then any pill... thank you .. I for one think it helps.

peace to you

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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Hi BTDT. I am interested. I just am not able to read a lot. But happened to see your recent posts. I flub alot trying to send encouraging words but I try my best. So ditto on tjdeepthinker's above responses to you.

I am not a medical professional. My comments and posts are based on personal experiences. Please consult appropriate medical professionals for advice. 

I was started on psych drugs back in the late 80's. You name it. I probably was on it. Tapered off final cocktail 2013-2019. For Hashimotos and high blood pressure I take Levothyroxine. Liothyronine. Spironolactone. Hydrochlorothiazide. Losartan. B12 hydroxy. Fish oil w/D3. Bee pollen. Magnesium Glycinate.

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Thanks Marsha... 

 

Still trying to sort things out.. still having very bad reactions  to scents and wood and just about everything wearing a mask when I leave the house helps but there are times I need a mask in the house.  

A heating pad caught fire in my bed ... smoke crap lot of things to react to a long hard reaction I have not completely recovered from. 

I am getting there I hope. Not much new on the treatment side of things still taking supplements and doing coffee enemas to try and detox my body so this jerking will stop ... I am not jerking right this minute... I jerk when I am tired strained or when I am get around chemicals or move the wrong way ect... who knows after a chemical depending how strong it was and how fast I got away from it... 

 

it can be days in bed jerking ...jerking too hard to really rest or sleep...just jerking

 

I am trying to figure it out bit by bit maybe I should just go to the hosp next reaction and say fix me... but deep down I am scared as hell of the hosp they have more drugs and for me that means more trouble... 

rock and a hard place I know it well. 

peace all

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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Using my post on Muddles thread as part of my update..

yes I am quite lazy

"I have been down again Muddles before I went down this time I found a few places online that help decipher the 23 and me report..

 

geneticgenie.org

https://www.promethease.com

 

http://www.dramyyask...thylation-cycle

 

Geneticgenie will give you basics that can be used with Amy Yasko's protocol... I have not sorted it yet... I have been too sick.  

 

if I recall correctly promethease will sort what drugs you should never have taken... or never to take again....at least some not sure if they do it all it will give you some information I doubt it is complete but can't be sure. 

 

Yasko has a book I would like to read so maybe some day I could understand this well as right now I can barely recall anything I did learn from working with these sites... the book is called. 

by Dr. Amy Yasko
 
she has others not sure if this is going to fix anything or not... 
 
This is another site of her's that offers supposedly more resources... it may be mostly about autism I am not sure as I just found it when I looked for her book just now. 
 
I know your not well Muddles but if you husband has any energy left maybe he could take a look at this.... wishing you well Muddles 
peace B
ps I am not sure how long 23 and me allows a person access to the information so you may need to check on that... 
all the above charge a fee "
 
 
I am going quite blind and need larger print to making it for myself. 
I still have a movement disorder and chemical sensitivity... whatever the cause be it part of wd or drug use or not seems to not matter much to how my life is lived. 
I do feel more removed from people here as I do not see anyone else here who has to wear a gas mask to buy food... or can't walk part of the time because they are jerking around. 
 
So as part of the reasons long time wd posters stop coming here ... too sick to bother and no longer have any hope stopping the drugs will stop the damage...would be added to my list. 
 
Hope your all well. 
 
wishing you peace

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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aaah my friend

 

life is not always easy !

 

glad to have news, but i do not like bad news

 

good luck !

 

after my taper, i had difficult to stand, kind of parkinson, akathisia (i had very strong during 5 months)

today, after 8 years off, my legs do not hold me well, i have to constantly move to not fall

 

before paxil, i never had a problem, all appear after stopping paxil

so it is paxil related

for anxiety 

12 years paxil - cold turkey 1,5 month - switch celexa 1 year taper; total 13 years on brain meds 

67 years old - 9 years  med free

 

in protracted withdrawal

rigidity standing and walking, dryness gougerot-szoegren, sleep deteriorate,

function as have a lack of nerves, improving have been very little 

 

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Yes, good to have news of you btdt.........and that you are ever searching.......

 

I know I don't have the answers anymore for all of it.........and that brings me a lot of peace.....that sounds weird but true........ 

 

Sending love, peace, healing, comfort.....

 

Best,

 

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Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks.

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed.  Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider.  My success story:  Blue skies ahead, clear sailing

 

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aaah my friend

 

life is not always easy !

 

glad to have news, but i do not like bad news

 

good luck !

 

after my taper, i had difficult to stand, kind of parkinson, akathisia (i had very strong during 5 months)

today, after 8 years off, my legs do not hold me well, i have to constantly move to not fall

 

before paxil, i never had a problem, all appear after stopping paxil

so it is paxil related

I had not balance issue before either Stan... it is the drugs 

we know it and don't need to be told... I danced on stage in 8 inch heels on effexor... balance was not an issue before effexor either... in tolerance that is a different story

 

I have had infected teeth ended up on antibiotics ... 4 rounds and tooth surgery... one antibiotic seemed to stop the movement disorder... but it came right back later had another round of the same antibiotic and it stopped again but it is back now... 

 

we can't find any infection to treat waiting on more test results... 

 

it is all quite confusing... really it does not get easier to understand not really all this is still proving to be tricky... when you go one direction for a time you find it to be a dead end and turn around and repeat it on some other stone face. It sure can be tiresome. 

 

Guess it takes so long to get over this they can blame it all on old age as we are old before we ever get our lives back... sucks don't it Stan. 

 

Glad your still around hope your finding some joy and peace in what is left... or something close. 

peace B

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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"II am looking for the problems we in withdrawal have....food sensitivities.. histamine sensitivity... multiple chemical sensitivity... "

Hi,

I am on the failsafe diet out of Australia. Also had reaction to magnesium malate, My allergist thinks it is caused by Paxil which I am now tapering. I am having terrible hives and food reactions. Did your food intolerances and MCS get better when you finished tapering?

If yes how long did it take and how did you reintroduce food?

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There are other people here who can eat only a few types of food because of bad reactions to food in wd... 

 

I started having reactions a long time ago.. years I have been off ssri drugs since nov 2007... cold turkey after 18 years of using them many different ones. 

 

I had a horrid wd... early on that lasted years.  I started reacting badly to scents and chemicals about the same time 10 years ago.. it has taken a very long time to get diagnosed with mcs... there are a lot of posts about histamine I suggest you look at them by searching. 

 

I was dx only last year with mcs only after I started to jerk all the time and had trouble walking... that was after an anaphylactic reaction to an antibiotic I had taken many time in the past without incident... 

 

I can't explain any of it really... what I thought I knew before I can't recall as my thinking is now affected... 

 

Do I think it has anything to do with the drugs... well it surely would not surprise me any. 

 

I would suggest that research could prove it too.. starting with Grace E Jacksons work... 

 

Advice I would give you is limit your use of any chemicals shampoo soap ect.. same for foods stick to the basics that word... hope for the best...

 

what I do know ... the sooner you stop a substance that is causing a reaction and avoid them all.. the better chance you have of never getting full blown mcs... and the better chance you may one day heal from it...

 

avoid avoid avoid... as best you can. 

 

Sorry if that was not much help... mostly I wish I knew the real answers ... if anyone knows they are not telling us. 

 

wishing you peace

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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I am ten years off... cold turkey post tolerance which brought on movement disorder... 

 

now the movement disorder is paramount... thinking is bad... very bad some days... 

 

again glutamate is a on my list... 

 

This does not go away for everyone... 

 

I have stayed off supplements for years till now and I am on many and thinking of quitting them all...if I had to pick one or two 

magnesium 

glutathione 

vitamin C

 

mag which I reacted badly two for years and years is now tolerable by building up with small doses of natural calm I can take a normal dose now but only at bed time as I can't chance the sleep effect in the day. 

 

glutathione is a master detoxer... I am toxic I know I feel it... I have done coffee enemas which helped clear my head more than anything else I have tried... but suck.. they really suck and caused rectal bleeding... yes everything has a price... I can't do them as often as I would like because I can't tolerate it..I just can't. 

 

Vitamin C... I play and play with this one over and over... sometimes if I take too much I think it causes blisters in my mouth.. and woman parts... how is that possible is it actually the cause... I can't say as I am so reactive to everything I buy toilet paper that is bamboo that costs an arm and a leg... still too much vit C and blisters are back in my mouth and on toilet paper contact areas...

 

I could be mad it is just what I am seeing now... thinking of a supplement break scare to do it scared not to...

 

I bought every book I could get my hands on that covers multiple chemical sensitivity ... read sites online till my eyes about fell out.. made my own detox program....

 

it worked some what it failed to bring me complete jerk free living.... I had plenty of reactions to things while in the detox process.... 

 

I now save enemas for severe detox times.. sadly I am not always well enough to do them when I really need them. 

 

still here kind of...

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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adding glycine and taurine to my list... 

 

my list is long... too long

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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I had been seeing a naturopath... debating going back to see him at least to get his ideas about my 23 and me results as he suggested the testing.  I have long since stopped all the things he had me buy to take. I have no idea how long ago months now.  I got sick and fell off the earth and could not think well enough to keep them straight.  So I am starting fresh... whatever I decide... not really fresh.  I am now taking supplements a lot of them it seems tried a lot more that have been added to the can't take cupboard.  

 

These are the ones I will not miss no matter what... 

 

Vit B 100mg 2-3 a day ... bad days 3 good days may forget so 2

Vit E 400mg "

CQ 10 100mg 2 at a time since I bought the lower dose as it was on sale... 2-3 times a day

NAC 500mg 2 x day more if I am in a reaction

Glutathione 250mg ... I try to limit this as I have read there is a feed back with it take to much body stops making it - not sure

PQQ Bacopa and alpha GPC - Neuro Force has 600mg of fish oil...

Natural calm magnesium... 1 teaspoon at night... I tried malate and was not a fan in early wd I could not tolerate natural calm 

Glycine at first sign of a reaction or when I feel off... Now brand 1000 mg..

Vit C 500mg 2-3 x daily

mllybedum 150 mcg in reaction 

selenium in reaction 100 mcg in reaction 

flax seeds grind them myself put them on food ... when I think of it or if constipated or in reaction... 

 

I juice generally something green spinach ect...a couple of carrots for vit A  cucumber sometimes or whatever I could find that is organic...  always juice from half a lemon and raw garlic for my poor liver.... sometimes add an apple or some berries but not always the green is where it is at for me. 

 

I still have problems with and avoid B6 B2 D3

 

I am still seeing an osteopath as it helps me... one of the rare things that does help me. 

I am thinking of seeing a functional medicine doctor... there are none where I live and I am not up to travel. 

 

 

 

I have experimented with many other things I keep on the back burner if I think I need them. 

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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To btdt

"II am looking for the problems we in withdrawal have....food sensitivities.. histamine sensitivity... multiple chemical sensitivity... "

Hi,

I am on the failsafe diet out of Australia. Also had reaction to magnesium malate, My allergist thinks it is caused by Paxil which I am now tapering. I am having terrible hives and food reactions. Did your food intolerances and MCS get better when you finished tapering?

If yes how long did it take and how did you reintroduce food?

MCS is a tricky thing hard to diagnose and know what all it entails as reactions can be so varied. 

 

I read this in the past few days...

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/54059cd8e4b09fa759f4c83f/t/5416a202e4b00f3a4f0de025/1410769410474/Killing+Us+Softly+1.3.pdf

 

I found it helpful tho it is old I have looked and not found anything further from this doc he still works but nothing more on mcs after this short book. 

 

A few things I read in it were helpful to me.  I hope it helps you. 

 

I did not taper did a cold turkey as my doc ( a neurologist) was trying to switch my drugs and I could never tolerate it and never go back on... could not take any other drug without a reaction my body revolted... basically is how it felt or there was not enough understanding of the process to allow it to be done properly by the doc or me.  So ct is what I did... 

 

It took a long time to add foods I can't recall I am sorry a couple of years to eat anything close to normal. 

 

I started having food reactions again in 2015... 

 

am careful still. 

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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post I made at another site trying to sort out mcs... may have some links that will help people here if your looking into your genetics and or have mcs or me cfs... and want to follow along this is the link to phoenix rising...

 http://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php?threads/significance-of-mthfr-dysfunction.7265/

 

I am starting to think detox has a place in ad withdrawal

 

 

Another thing I was taking was an immune spray from the nd... 

yask stuff 
" New cells and the immune system The building blocks for DNA and RNA require the methylation pathway to function optimally. Without adequate DNA and RNA it is difficult for the body to synthesize new cells. New cell synthesis is needed to repair damaged cells, to maintain the lining of the gut, to make new blood cells as well as for your immune system that defends you against infection. T cells are a key aspect of your immune system and they require new DNA in order to respond to foreign invaders. T cell synthesis is necessary to respond to bacterial, parasitic and viral infection, as well as for other aspects of the proper functioning of the immune system.  Herpes, hepatitis and other viruses In addition, decreased levels of methylation can result in improper DNA regulation. DNA methylation is necessary to prevent the expression of viral genes that have been inserted into the body‟s DNA. Loss of methylation can lead to the expression of inserted viral genes such as herpes and hepatitis among other viruses." 

I have been plagued with mouth blisters we thought from food reactions but then they started in a genital way.. I thought I had herpes but each time I go to the doc they say no but don't test. Is there not a test for herpies could I not have caught it without having sex... have been sexless since 2006. I don't know maybe it was dormant maybe this is not a reaction at all. I have only one soap left I can use and have switched to bamboo toilet paper not sure it has helped. Do other mcs people have this issue? What kind of toilet paper do you use? I have resorted to rinsing with bottles of water after each toilet use as things are a mess again. This past wkend I had mouth and genital blisters come back took some antihistamines waited to see the doc monday same old cream that seems to help only are a barrier and is not of much use. Maybe I have had it for years and it just came out these last couple of years and maybe fixing methylation will fix this too. I am leaning back towards Yasko the more I read this link
"In addition, phospholipid methylation may be involved in modulation of NMDA (glutamate) receptors, acting to control excitotoxin damage." 

i have
COMT V158M+/-
COMT H62H +/-
VDR Bsm++
MA0-A R297R ++ homozygous 
MTHFR C677T +/-
MTRR A66G +/-
MTRR K350A+/-
CBS C699T +/-
CBS A360A +/-
The above is from genetic genie I am missing a detox gene....
CYP1B1 L432V+/-
CYP2C19*17 +/-
CYPD6 S486T +/+ 
CYP2D6 100C T+/-
CYP2D6 2850C T+/-
SOD2 A16V+/-
NAT2 I114T+/-
NAT2 K268R+/-
GSTT1 ABSENT*

A few other things from another program.. pro something or other... can't metabolise 30% of drugs on the market... +/- alpha 1 anti tryispins... same sort of thing for an iron overload thing... blah blah... lost the plot... now. 

I followed on with that link above which took me to this page for serotonin help... supplement
http://www.holisticheal.com/seromood.html
some of this and that not too alarming till you get to this one
'
PROPRIETARY EXTRACT BLEND: 431.8mg"

I don't know how sick I would have to be to take a proprietary extract blend but I am not that sick yet or just now in any case... 
and just that quick I am not a believer and have to look else where... 

linked into that by this link... know your genetics
https://www.knowyourgenetics.com/media/pdf/Simplified Protocol.pdf

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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  • 1 month later...

 

 

to remind myself to keep this in mind and read it all when and if I recover...

 

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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On 2017-3-30 at 10:56 AM, Elisheba said:

To btdt

"II am looking for the problems we in withdrawal have....food sensitivities.. histamine sensitivity... multiple chemical sensitivity... "

Hi,

I am on the failsafe diet out of Australia. Also had reaction to magnesium malate, My allergist thinks it is caused by Paxil which I am now tapering. I am having terrible hives and food reactions. Did your food intolerances and MCS get better when you finished tapering?

If yes how long did it take and how did you reintroduce food?

in case you did not see this I am reposting with a quote so you get a message

There are other people here who can eat only a few types of food because of bad reactions to food in wd... 

 

I started having reactions a long time ago.. years I have been off ssri drugs since nov 2007... cold turkey after 18 years of using them many different ones. 

 

I had a horrid wd... early on that lasted years.  I started reacting badly to scents and chemicals about the same time 10 years ago.. it has taken a very long time to get diagnosed with mcs... there are a lot of posts about histamine I suggest you look at them by searching. 

 

I was dx only last year with mcs only after I started to jerk all the time and had trouble walking... that was after an anaphylactic reaction to an antibiotic I had taken many time in the past without incident... 

 

I can't explain any of it really... what I thought I knew before I can't recall as my thinking is now affected... 

 

Do I think it has anything to do with the drugs... well it surely would not surprise me any. 

 

I would suggest that research could prove it too.. starting with Grace E Jacksons work... 

 

Advice I would give you is limit your use of any chemicals shampoo soap ect.. same for foods stick to the basics that word... hope for the best...

 

what I do know ... the sooner you stop a substance that is causing a reaction and avoid them all.. the better chance you have of never getting full blown mcs... and the better chance you may one day heal from it...

 

avoid avoid avoid... as best you can. 

 

Sorry if that was not much help... mostly I wish I knew the real answers ... if anyone knows they are not telling us. 

 

wishing you peace

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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On 2017-3-30 at 10:56 AM, Elisheba said:

To btdt

"II am looking for the problems we in withdrawal have....food sensitivities.. histamine sensitivity... multiple chemical sensitivity... "

Hi,

I am on the failsafe diet out of Australia. Also had reaction to magnesium malate, My allergist thinks it is caused by Paxil which I am now tapering. I am having terrible hives and food reactions. Did your food intolerances and MCS get better when you finished tapering?

If yes how long did it take and how did you reintroduce food?

in case you did not see this I am reposting with a quote so you get a message

There are other people here who can eat only a few types of food because of bad reactions to food in wd... 

 

I started having reactions a long time ago.. years I have been off ssri drugs since nov 2007... cold turkey after 18 years of using them many different ones. 

 

I had a horrid wd... early on that lasted years.  I started reacting badly to scents and chemicals about the same time 10 years ago.. it has taken a very long time to get diagnosed with mcs... there are a lot of posts about histamine I suggest you look at them by searching. 

 

I was dx only last year with mcs only after I started to jerk all the time and had trouble walking... that was after an anaphylactic reaction to an antibiotic I had taken many time in the past without incident... 

 

I can't explain any of it really... what I thought I knew before I can't recall as my thinking is now affected... 

 

Do I think it has anything to do with the drugs... well it surely would not surprise me any. 

 

I would suggest that research could prove it too.. starting with Grace E Jacksons work... 

 

Advice I would give you is limit your use of any chemicals shampoo soap ect.. same for foods stick to the basics that word... hope for the best...

 

what I do know ... the sooner you stop a substance that is causing a reaction and avoid them all.. the better chance you have of never getting full blown mcs... and the better chance you may one day heal from it...

 

avoid avoid avoid... as best you can. 

 

Sorry if that was not much help... mostly I wish I knew the real answers ... if anyone knows they are not telling us. 

 

wishing you peace

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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hey, btdt

 

miss seeing you on here...you've really been through it.

 

hope you are getting some peace here and there...10 years is such a long time.

 

you're one tough cookie.

 

love,ds    xxx

went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct  back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs.

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Once exposure to incitants is eliminated, helpful interventions include: • treating gastrointestinal infections which, if untreated, can lead to absorption of internal toxins and large-molecule food antigens, or conversely, may lead to poor absorption of nutrients; • regimens to enhance detoxification and elimination such as sauna and exercise therapy; • reduction of heavy metal contamination using oral and intravenous chelation for toxic metals (shown to be safe to treat lead in children;165 it is currently in clinical trials for children with autism157,166); • oral and intravenous vitamins; • securing hormonal homeostasis, given that many of the toxins observed are endocrine disruptors; • correcting biochemical irregularities; • desensitization for foods and/or inhalants; • psychological, social and spiritual support; • occupational accommodation; and • financial support for safe workplaces, housing, food and water. Summary Diagnosis of people with environmental sensitivities involves systematically identifying and treating conditions contributing to ill health, then determining if remaining symptom patterns meet the diagnostic criteria. Early recognition, avoidance of symptom-triggering agents, environmental control, treatments that may reduce residual toxins and recovery of normal biological processes are key to regaining health for people with sensitivities. Without safe food, water, shelter and workplaces, people with environmental sensitivities may become severely debilitated and unemployed.12,60,78

http://www.chrc-ccdp.gc.ca/sites/default/files/envsensitivity_en.pdf

 

Although I read over and over how people with cfs mcs fibro ect have anxiety or depression.. or have had no place have I read the drugs to treat these issues have contributed to or caused the illness... and we all know how I feel about that. 

 

http://recognitioninclusionandequity.org/

ontario resource 

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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2 minutes ago, direstraits said:

hey, btdt

 

miss seeing you on here...you've really been through it.

 

hope you are getting some peace here and there...10 years is such a long time.

 

you're one tough cookie.

 

love,ds    xxx

I am not sure how tough I am that has been questioned plenty during this process still I am here so maybe I am.  I think in part I keep thinking that there is healing there is an answer or many and I just have to wait maintain keep trying things research more... try harder... so far no big answers but a lot of little ones. Inch by inch life is a cinch yard by yard life is hard... I got a million of them. 

 

I am not always well enough to be here I can't control my hands all the time to type and other times I can't think well enough to say anything worth your hearing... I am hit and miss keep trying.  Now it is supplements osteopaths chiropractors... till this bit of money is gone then maybe it will return to hopelessness.  We will see about there already actually. I can't help but think the answers are already there what we can find by ourselves mucking about on pub med is one thing but real scientist must know I can't believe they don't.  

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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On 2017-3-30 at 10:56 AM, Elisheba said:

To btdt

"II am looking for the problems we in withdrawal have....food sensitivities.. histamine sensitivity... multiple chemical sensitivity... "

Hi,

I am on the failsafe diet out of Australia. Also had reaction to magnesium malate, My allergist thinks it is caused by Paxil which I am now tapering. I am having terrible hives and food reactions. Did your food intolerances and MCS get better when you finished tapering?

If yes how long did it take and how did you reintroduce food?

with everything else I have said already it took a few years for my digestive system to do anything close to normal... boiled carrots chicken broth potato and electolytes for babies is what I did for  a long time when I was able I walked after eating every time I ate ... or the food would just sit there and hurt... I recommend walking after you eat and 4 cups of water in the morning before you eat anything... add half a lemon it will help your liver

peace

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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drugs movement disorders congnitive impairment
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WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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TABLE II MEDICATIONS WITH SIGNIFICANT ANTICHOLINERGIC PROPERTIES Table II lists common medications with significant anticholinergic properties and potential adverse consequences, but is not all-inclusive. Any of the following signs and symptoms may be caused by any of the medications in the lists below, alone or in combination, as well as by other medications not listed here that have anticholinergic properties. This table is provided because: 1) Medications in many categories have anticholinergic properties; 2) The use of multiple medications with such properties may be particularly problematic because of the cumulative effects; and 3) Anticholinergic side effects are particularly common and problematic, especially in the older individual61, 62. Examples of Medications with Anticholinergic Properties ANTIHISTAMINES (H-1 BLOCKERS) chlorpheniramine cyproheptadine diphenhydramine hydroxyzine CARDIOVASCULAR MEDICATIONS furosemide digoxin nifedipine disopyramide ANTIDEPRESSANTS amoxapine amitriptyline clomipramine desipramine doxepin imipramine nortriptyline protriptyline paroxetine GASTROINTESTINAL MEDICATIONS Antidiarrheal Medications diphenoxylate atropine Antispasmodic Medications belladonna clidinium chlordiazepoxide dicyclomine hyoscyamine propantheline Antiulcer Medications cimetidine ranitidine Transmittal 22 Excerpt Table II Jan 07 Page 1 of 2 ANTIPARKINSON MEDICATIONS amantadine benztropine biperiden trihexyphenidyl ANTIPSYCHOTIC MEDICATIONS chlorpromazine clozapine olanzapine thioridazine MUSCLE RELAXANTS cyclobenzaprine dantrolene orphenadrine URINARY INCONTINENCE oxybutynin probantheline solifenacin tolterodine trospium ANTIVERTIGO MEDICATIONS meclizine scopolamine PHENOTHIAZINE ANTIEMETICS prochlorperazine promethazine Potential Adverse Consequences of Medications with Anticholinergic Properties Blood pressure, increased Breathing difficulty, changes Clumsiness or unsteadiness Convulsions Digestive system changes, e.g., Bloating Bowel motility, decreased Constipation Ileus, paralytic/adynamic Nausea or vomiting Swallowing difficulty with dry mouth Mental status/behavior changes, e.g., Distress, excitement, nervousness Attention, impaired Cognitive decline Confusion/disorientation Hallucinations Memory loss Restlessness or irritability Delirium Dizziness Drowsiness Fever Headache Heart rate, increased Lethargy, fatigue Mucous membrane dryness: mouth, nose Muscle weakness, severe Speech, slurring Skin, changes Dryness Sweating, decreased Flushing Warmth, excessive Vision impairment, changes in acuity Blurring Glaucoma, worsening Eye pain Light sensitivity Urinary retention or difficulty Transmittal 22 Excerpt Table II Jan 07 Page 2 of 2

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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