Rain: dropped dose of lexapro

[nz11]

You said yourself she gave it to you for anxiety maybe you told the doc you had trouble sleeping as well.

Sorry you are getting pushed around like this it must be very confusing.

 

Rain are you able to take responsibility for your situation and step up and make a plan for yourself.

 

Are you able to spend time reading the info on this site the links people give you and develop a deep inner conviction regarding your plight and whats needed to get out of it.

 

If you cant then you will be at the whim of every misguided and dangerous voice....allowing them to take control and make poor decisions that are not in your best interests.

 

Any person that doesnt understand ssri wdl, slow tapering as defined here,  or the true nature of psychiatric drugs is a voice to avoid.

Have a read of this. 

 

http://www.cchrint.org/2014/11/25/are-all-psychiatric-drugs-too-unsafe-to-take-answer-yes/

[Altostrata]

Rain, very, very few doctors understand anything about withdrawal symptoms. They almost always say it's "relapse."

 

Yes, if you take Seroquel regularly, you will become dependent on it and you will have to taper off to avoid withdrawal symptoms.

 

It may take some time for your nervous system to settle down from your accidental dosing.

[Rain]

Rain, very, very few doctors understand anything about withdrawal symptoms. They almost always say it's "relapse."

 

Yes, if you take Seroquel regularly, you will become dependent on it and you will have to taper off to avoid withdrawal symptoms.

 

It may take some time for your nervous system to settle down from your accidental dosing.

 

Many thanks Altostrata, This is the GP doctor who wants me to up dose my Zoloft and Lexapro before.

 

I am trying my best to recover and I don't think it is necessary for me to take SEROQUEL at the moment, I will try adjust my life style such as sleeping regularly and eating healthy first. I have made some marks on the package of the meds in case I have accidental dosing. 

 

I will keep updating.

[Rain]

You said yourself she gave it to you for anxiety maybe you told the doc you had trouble sleeping as well.

Sorry you are getting pushed around like this it must be very confusing.

 

Rain are you able to take responsibility for your situation and step up and make a plan for yourself.

 

Are you able to spend time reading the info on this site the links people give you and develop a deep inner conviction regarding your plight and whats needed to get out of it.

 

If you cant then you will be at the whim of every misguided and dangerous voice....allowing them to take control and make poor decisions that are not in your best interests.

 

Any person that doesnt understand ssri wdl, slow tapering as defined here,  or the true nature of psychiatric drugs is a voice to avoid.

Have a read of this. 

 

http://www.cchrint.org/2014/11/25/are-all-psychiatric-drugs-too-unsafe-to-take-answer-yes/

 

 

Hi NZ11:

 

Thank you for your replying!

 

Yes, I told her my sleeping was not regularly. 

 

Firstly, I will focus on my sleeping problem, I will go to sleep earlier than before and wake up earlier too. 

 

Secondly, I will take very care of my food, I will not have any food that stimulates my stomach. 

 

I think I will be much better than now if I can make these two things happen. 

 

Also I have made some marks on the package of the meds in case I have accidental dosing. 

 

Regards

Rain

[KarenB]

Hi Rain,

 

I think what you've written above about focusing on your sleep and food is really sensible.  You are feeling awful now because of the dose mix-up, so you know that will settle down again soon. 

 

This is the kind of situation where doctors put people on more drugs, and when they don't work, it's more drugs again.  You'd be best just keeping out of all that extra complication.  Focusing on care of yourself, stabilising, then gentle tapering has got to be the best path through this. 

 

Many of us think it's healthier to stay away from doctors (apart from keeping the prescriptions going while we taper). 

[Rain]

Hi Rain,

 

I think what you've written above about focusing on your sleep and food is really sensible.  You are feeling awful now because of the dose mix-up, so you know that will settle down again soon. 

 

This is the kind of situation where doctors put people on more drugs, and when they don't work, it's more drugs again.  You'd be best just keeping out of all that extra complication.  Focusing on care of yourself, stabilising, then gentle tapering has got to be the best path through this. 

 

Many of us think it's healthier to stay away from doctors (apart from keeping the prescriptions going while we taper). 

 

Hi Karen,

 

I totally agree with you!

 

It is hard to get to sleep when anxiety comes up again, but I was still lying on the bed, get up in the morning. 

 

But I will not use that med now, it is easy to take it but too hard to wean it off...

[Rain]

Hi, I found an article, maybe thats the reason why Omega 3 is helpful (anti-inflammation). I may try that, too.

 

http://painreliefcare.net/2015/11/03/study-offers-new-hope-for-depression-sufferersresearch-shows-depression-linked-to-inflammation/

[Rain]

Some updates for these 3-4 days...

 

I think the wave was slowly gone these days and window comes! I feel relaxed a lot, my stomach was doing really well, I ate oats, bread, rice, noodles, beef, chicken, etc... Nothing hurts my stomach at the moment! Even I tried Centrum( Multi Vitamin used to make me feel bad nausea), didn't hurt my stomach either! At least I can add a little supplement to my weak body now! 

 

I tried my best to adjust my sleeping these days, too. I fell to sleep one night quite early, however, I still wake up in the next day afternoon!!! Then the second day, I couldn't go to sleep easily... I will keep trying...

 

So these days, most of the symptoms were disappeared but only slight worrying thoughts left, especially thinking of am I having Bipolar now... Cause I noticed I am enter one wave and window cycle then another. I try to coping myself about these thoughts, they usually work but sometimes just into that hole and forgot my coping mechanism. I think I need more CBT training. 

[Rain]

Updates:

It has been 8 days since I mistakenly up dosing and skipped one after up dosing. 

 

After trying to adjust my sleeping these days, I started to have bad today today and I failed to do that... I skipped one day sleep to try to adjust it, but it was totally wrong and now I am feeling awful. Anxiety again and fear feeling. 

 

I don't know why these awful feeling come back again, also I dreamed back some weird dreams again these days... 

 

Are they related to the up dosing that day? I feel losing confidence today and don't know what will happen to me next...

[Rain]

I am thinking will that be the Multi vitamin pill caused the problem? I took it 3 days in a row, but before I will feel not well immediately after taking one pill.

 

I woke up very early today and feel anxiety with heart beating fast... I don't know when this will stop... Hard time for me again...

[KarenB]

Multivitamins are often difficult for people in w/d.  And the way they affect you can differ too, because your CNS is in a different state than the last time you took them.  I'd leave them alone for now, let things settle down. 

 

You could try adding some guided meditations to your day, especially parts of it that you know you feel more anxious.  Remember that things will settle again, so don't make the mistake we all make of thinking it's gonna be like this forever. 

 

Do you take magnesium?  It's good for anxiety.

[Rain]

Multivitamins are often difficult for people in w/d.  And the way they affect you can differ too, because your CNS is in a different state than the last time you took them.  I'd leave them alone for now, let things settle down. 

 

You could try adding some guided meditations to your day, especially parts of it that you know you feel more anxious.  Remember that things will settle again, so don't make the mistake we all make of thinking it's gonna be like this forever. 

 

Do you take magnesium?  It's good for anxiety.

 

Hi Karen, Thanks for your suggestions, at the moment I don't dare to take any supplements, it is so so scary to add some additional of anxiety to me now... Even Vitamin B pills I stopped taking it. I stopped Multi vitamins since yesterday and I will see how that's going. Yes, My CNS is changing, I can tell from my mood status, sleeping patterns, stomach feelings... 

 

Today there is no changes, still feel anxiety, some kind of heavy things in the brain to control me. Painful... But I still not trying SEROQUEL...

 

I went to see psychologist today and she said she will contact my doctor to discuss about my medication I am taking now, she thinks the medication leads to my current situation. Also she taught me some way to do relaxations. I will try that.

[Rain]

I am still not well at the moment, this wave has been last for more than half month now... I started to think about my life (Is it still interesting for me? etc...).  I am worrying about I will start depression, does anyone can tell me is this the start of depression?

 

Also I am thinking of trying to switch to a brand new med, I know people will say this will be a very bad idea, but what can I do... I can not live with this situation, I have to go to work, I have to make money... I can not support myself now...

 

If anyone has experienced switching a brand new med, please tell me what will happen, please. 

[Fresh]

Hi Rain , switching brands is very risky . . . more risky than updosing or using seroquel short-term.

You risk an adverse reaction to the new med.

[KarenB]

It is also true that once antidepressants have stopped working for a person, they generally don't work again even when different types are tried.  What does happen is that people who do get tempted into trying different drugs end up with a more complicated situation, and an even further destabilised CNS, when they eventually realise that their only option is to taper.

 

So many times I wish I'd not gone the road of trying different types.  I ended up worse than ever. 

[Rain]

Thanks Karen and Fresh! 

 

I haven't been good since 15 days ago... 

 

Last night I have done blood tests. The Test shows that one of my liver function is over, T-Bil, it is over highest amount, 20. 

 

Also, one of my thumb skin keeps peeling off with blisters... Doctor tried anti-fungus creams but they don't help, so he thinks it was also related to my body system.

[ChessieCat]

Hi Rain,

 

"one of my thumb skin keeps peeling off with blisters"

 

Do you get something like little watery pimples that burst, get a bit itchy and then go dry and scaly?  I've had these on and off my whole life.  Used to get them a lot when at school.  Recently I've been getting them again.  Haven't had them for ages.  I call them stress pimples.  My daughter gets them too.

[Rain]

Hi Rain,

 

"one of my thumb skin keeps peeling off with blisters"

 

Do you get something like little watery pimples that burst, get a bit itchy and then go dry and scaly?  I've had these on and off my whole life.  Used to get them a lot when at school.  Recently I've been getting them again.  Haven't had them for ages.  I call them stress pimples.  My daughter gets them too.

 

Wow, that's exactly what I am having, yes, I feel so anxious these days...  Withdrawal seems doesn't work on me, I am feeling so bad now... 

[ChessieCat]

You might want to consider the MindSpot Clinic.  It's free for Australians.  Information About MindSpot

 

I did an 8 week online workshop through them at the end of 2014 and have found it very helpful.  It has helped me to recognise when I am getting anxious and has taught me the skills I need to reduce it.  As an example, just before Christmas I had to go shopping and was sitting at the computer and was feeling sick in the stomach and starting to stress out about what I had to do.  Because of what I had learned, I recognised that the sick feeling was the adrenaline so I did controlled breathing and was able to calm myself down and stop a full on panic attack.  And managed to go out and do what I needed to do.  Whilst driving there I kept telling myself that I could do it and would be okay.

 

Dr Claire Weekes is also very good.  the-dr-claire-weekes-method-of-recovering-from-a-sensitized-nervous-system/
 

[Rain]

You might want to consider the MindSpot Clinic.  It's free for Australians.  Information About MindSpot

 

I did an 8 week online workshop through them at the end of 2014 and have found it very helpful.  It has helped me to recognise when I am getting anxious and has taught me the skills I need to reduce it.  As an example, just before Christmas I had to go shopping and was sitting at the computer and was feeling sick in the stomach and starting to stress out about what I had to do.  Because of what I had learned, I recognised that the sick feeling was the adrenaline so I did controlled breathing and was able to calm myself down and stop a full on panic attack.  And managed to go out and do what I needed to do.  Whilst driving there I kept telling myself that I could do it and would be okay.

 

Dr Claire Weekes is also very good.  the-dr-claire-weekes-method-of-recovering-from-a-sensitized-nervous-system/

 

 

Thank you so much for that ChessieCat! I am so much appreciated! 

 

I will have a look at that website. I do need a lot of method to calm myself down. 

[Rain]

Some Updates:

 

I haven't post my updates for a while. Because since 8th March, I started to feeling bit better, I can go work, I can eat normally, I can sleep without nightmares...

 

Recently around 22nd March, couple things happened on me: car brocken and belongings stolen in the car, phone service dysfunction so I couldn't contact anyone, etc... I had to sort these things by great patient.

 

Also the worst thing was: I missed one dose again. I started to make a mark to my med package, So I noticed there was one missed dose just happened around 22nd. Not quite sure the wave was related to this? 

 

I started a new bad wave these two days, quite same as last time, especially the stomach upset and anxiety. They hit me badly. 

 

I am using some mindfulness meditation to cope with these symptoms but sometimes I will forget these coping mechanism and involved in my symptoms. 

[Rose9975]

Well done you.Take it hour by hour day but day

[Rain]

Well done you.Take it hour by hour day but day

Thank you Rose, How are you? 

[Rose9975]

I keep a lexapro tablet under my Spare typre in my car should I ever forget to take it.It is so important for me to take it daily at the same.These drugs are so potent

[Rose9975]

I'm good thank you Rain. A WAVE came over me today but thanks to this excellent website I knew I needed to ride it.Have you ever tried acupuncture?

[KarenB]

Hi Rain,

That wave could have been set off by a combo of the missed dose and the stress you went through with your car and belongings.  That's pretty upsetting for anyone, let alone a person in w/d. 

 

It will settle down again - be really vigilant with taking your pills each day. 

 

Nice work using mindfulness - the more you do it, the better you'll manage.

 

Karen

[Rain]

I'm good thank you Rain. A WAVE came over me today but thanks to this excellent website I knew I needed to ride it.Have you ever tried acupuncture?

Hi Rose, glad to hear that you are good! I haven't tried acupuncture, have you tried that? How's that? 

 

We are all riding the waves but one thing we should know, we will be all good in one day. 

 

I am riding some waves these days, but they were not as bad as one or two month ago.

[Rain]

Hi Rain,

That wave could have been set off by a combo of the missed dose and the stress you went through with your car and belongings.  That's pretty upsetting for anyone, let alone a person in w/d. 

 

It will settle down again - be really vigilant with taking your pills each day. 

 

Nice work using mindfulness - the more you do it, the better you'll manage.

 

Karen

 

Thank you Karen!

 

I am getting better these days, I am trying to do lots of works and hobbies to distract myself, it works! 

 

I need to practice more on mindfulness, it is quite useful, too! 

 

Hope you are doing well Karen! 

[Rain]

It has been 6 months today since I dropped down Lexapro from 20mg to 10mg. There are some updates and my feelings recently. 

 

Good news is overall I do feel better than 3 months ago! I can do even more work now and little of my interests has came back. My body is not as weak as before (I can say this is back to normal now.), also I don't worry heart palpitation for most of the time.

 

The bad side is: the waves are still keep coming, not intense as before, but still painful, like 2 days ago, a new wave has come and new symptoms has arrived as well. I don't really know if this is related to my WD. My bowel starts to having swelling feeling, quite intense, but the regulation I go to the toilet seems not change and stool are the same. But the swelling feeling just let feel fed up to do anything. Also during the waves, I had bad sleeping patterns, I had super weird dreams, anxiety, bad thoughts about the future, etc...

 

I haven't seen my psychologist for a month now, but I am still practicing mindfulness and cognitive behavior that she taught me, but not too much methods, just two very simple way to deal anxiety. I also take a walk after dinner which I think is great helpful to my symptoms. 

 

I think there is still long way to go, I will keep updating...

[KarenB]

Rain it's lovely to hear from you again - and thanks for visiting my thread too.  Sounds like your healing is slow-ish but steady.  That's the sort of healing which lasts.  So good you are still doing the CBT and mindfulness.  I think for many of us, these tools we learn will stay with us through our lives. 

 

Hugs,

Karen

[Rain]

Rain it's lovely to hear from you again - and thanks for visiting my thread too.  Sounds like your healing is slow-ish but steady.  That's the sort of healing which lasts.  So good you are still doing the CBT and mindfulness.  I think for many of us, these tools we learn will stay with us through our lives. 

 

Hugs,

Karen

 

Thank you so much Karen! So happy you are getting better, too, my healing is quite slow, I don't dare to think about when I can get rid of this, but only I can do is focusing to relax when wave or anxiety comes. 

 

CBT and mindfulness is an interesting thing, they took effect when you really get into it. Sometimes waves were intense and distracted them, that is the difficult point. But once you use these tools more, as my psychologist said, they like doing gyms, you can use them more frequently.

[Rain]

I have got a new annoying symptom, in this wave, my bowel feel swelling, heavy. Tonight after dinner it was really painful and I went to the toilet in a hurry. The bowel swelling feeling has last for 2 weeks now, tonight is worsening and having bowel movements.

 

I am guessing one possible is this is the new wave symptom and another possible is IBS itself, I never had IBS before, so I am so anxious about these feelings and bowel activities. 

 

Does anyone had same symptom as me? Or any suggestions? Thanks! 

[Rain]

Some updates for me:

 

I had a very bad time because I have break up with my girlfriend and my thoughts are bad, I know I am so sensiteve in WD. "Mort81" has become my good friend, he helped me a lot about WD, thanks to him! I know he is in his hard time, too.

 

The worse thing is I caught bad cold and high fever from my friend while fixing car for him. I was caughing whole nights for 3 days. Since yesterday and today, I feel big anxiety attack and heart palp so fast... 

 

Also a throat losenges cause me anxious feeling too, then I stopped taking it... 

 

Now I feel I am back to the begining of my WD or original anxiety... 

 

Bad cold and high fever can also triggered me???  

[KarenB]

Anything which places extra stress on your body - including colds/fevers - can worsen you w/d symptoms.  It will pass again, just give it time and take care of your health.  Eat well, drink lots of water, rest when you can.  Remember all your old tools that you used to use for anxiety and feeling bad?  Bring those out again.

[Rain]

Anything which places extra stress on your body - including colds/fevers - can worsen you w/d symptoms.  It will pass again, just give it time and take care of your health.  Eat well, drink lots of water, rest when you can.  Remember all your old tools that you used to use for anxiety and feeling bad?  Bring those out again.

Thank you so much again Karen! I will! The tools are so useful! 

 

By the way, how are you these days? 

[KarenB]

Well, after a 6 month hold I finally started to feel some solid improvement.  Still holding now at 7 months, just letting it really consolidate, and also bumping up my supplements to higher doses (I got a bit complacent, didn't take them past the minimum doses).  Sleep has improved hugely since taking MSM, and energy has improved after taking iron supplements. 

 

Thanks for asking Rain.  Good luck getting through this wave.