Rain: dropped dose of lexapro

[Mort81]

Ya magnesium helps to relax. However take only 1 at a low dose to see how it goes because you are having alot of gut issues. I do a foot soak for magnesium because im worried about my gut.

[Mort81]

And no problem we are all here to help. The only people who truly understand are forums like this.

[Rain]

thanks thanks! i will try, as yesterday and the day before yesterday, I took Centrum Advance, I feel nausea gut yesterday and today, i may stop this first i think. With the recovery of the withdrawal, will that all get better? 

[Mort81]

no problem, Yes it will only continue to get better overtime. It may be slower than you want, as I am clearly seeing from my own experience. But you will have the knowledge to taper from 10mg once ready. Which might not be for a bit. Cause you want to stabilize at 10mg for awhile than taper 10% per month or slower.

[Mort81]

But right now your main goal is to stabilize at 10mg. So be patient and go easy on yourself, it will get better.

[Rain]

thanks for your suggestion Stitch! I will try my best! 

[Rain]

my doctor prescribed me two medications yesterday: Metoclopramide hydrochloride, propranolol hydrochloride

[Fresh]

Rain , if you're going to buy magnesium , read the thread in Symptoms and Self Care for advice on the best type to buy.

If it's in a powder , it's something like 500 times more bioavailable than a tablet.  Try Blackmores brand.

See the magnesium thread here  http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1300-magnesium-natures-calcium-channel-blocker/

 

This is only day 2 of taking your tablets at the same time each day.  It would be crazy to try new meds. until you've

had a good shot at regulating things without.

Propanalol helps some , not others (it did nothing for me).  I'd encourage you to pop those scripts in a drawer for the moment. 

 

Let's see how you're doing in another 2 or 3 days before thinking about getting them filled.

 

(Mort , your cover is blown.  Now I'm starting to think of you as Stitch instead of Mortylicious )

[Rain]

Hi Fresh! Thanks for your suggestions! I didn't take the prescribed medicine, i put the prescription in my car drawer. I stopped centrum, and tomorrow i will go to chemistware to buy blackmores.

[Altostrata]

Rain, when are you taking Lexapro now, and how do you feel?

[Rain]

Hello Alto! Thanks for concerning about me, since yesterday afternoon i began to feel a little bit relaxed, I slept 11.5 hours and just wake up. Now I feel little bit anxious and hungry, i should eat something and take the Lexapro as soon as possible.

[Fresh]

Could you keep track of what time you're taking it on here Rain?

Friday:

Saturday:

Sunday:

 

Good sleep is a good sign.  

[Rain]

Could you keep track of what time you're taking it on here Rain?

Friday:

Saturday:

Sunday:

 

Good sleep is a good sign.  

thank you Fresh! I found a good sleep can reduce the strength of the symptom by 30-40%. However, it is uncontrollable and unstable...

 

Friday: 3:00 pm

Saturday: 3:00 pm

Sunday: 3:42pm

[Songbird]

my doctor prescribed me two medications yesterday: Metoclopramide hydrochloride, propranolol hydrochloride

 

Metoclopramide is for nausea - instead of this, you could try ginger.

 

Propranolol is a beta-blocker - would be for slowing your fast heartbeat, among other things - if used long-term, it must be tapered - instead of this, I would try the magnesium, which can be helpful for palpitations.

 

You could also try relaxation exercises, such as progressive muscle relaxation.

[Rain]

 

my doctor prescribed me two medications yesterday: Metoclopramide hydrochloride, propranolol hydrochloride

 

Metoclopramide is for nausea - instead of this, you could try ginger.

 

Propranolol is a beta-blocker - would be for slowing your fast heartbeat, among other things - if used long-term, it must be tapered - instead of this, I would try the magnesium, which can be helpful for palpitations.

 

You could also try relaxation exercises, such as progressive muscle relaxation.

 

Many thanks Songbird! I will try that! I didn't take those medicines and i feel better today. The ginger tastes spicy, do you have any suggestion to eat it? Also I found take a walk for 40-50mins are very helpful.

[Rain]

I have a problem again, one of my friend who has depression and anxiety for 15years told me today, I may having Bipolar Disorder (not typical one), as my symptom looks lazy, anxiety and obsessive thinking most of the time... I started to worry about that, can anyone explain could I have that problem or just simply withdrawal cause me like this?

[Fresh]

Rain , lots of people tell you things they think may help.   If I was a betting woman , I'd put my money on withdrawal.

 

Your symptoms are very typical , and you're responding well to reinstating.

 

If you had a bipolar illness , surely one of the doctors over the years would have recognized it.

 

About ginger , I use powdered ginger in tea with lemon and honey.  

Or you can buy candied ginger which is nice to nibble on , but quite sweet (Harris Park Fruit Market).

 

Have you tried apple cider vinegar (with the mother root) ?  One tablespoon in hot water , with honey.

Greek yoghurt is very good too , lots of healthy bacteria.

[Rain]

Many thanks Fresh, I haven't done any reinstatement, still on 10mg since dropped from 20mg, it has been 2.7weeks now. My symptom now is still not quite stable with body symptoms, these days was little bit better, but after he told me like this, I fell to Anxiety and worrying again, it is painful! Two of my doctors they never said i have Bipolar, maybe they didn't notice I am not stable at the moment... I really worry about i have bipolar and everything should start again...  

 

I am drinking warm honey water for 1 month now, I feel I will have appetite after get up if doing so, I will also take your suggestions! 

 

Cheers Fresh

[Fresh]

Sorry Rain , I was confusing you with DG for a minute there.  My mistake.  

[Rain]

Sorry Rain , I was confusing you with DG for a minute there.  My mistake.  

no worries Fresh, so do you think I am possibly a Bipolar Disorder sufferer?

[Fresh]

I seriously doubt it.

 

Your mind is looking for things to worry about.  It's being a "monkey- mind" , jumping around.  

 

Happy Australia day for tomorrow!

[Songbird]

You can try any kind of ginger and see what works for you.  Ginger tea, ginger ale, crystallised ginger, etc.

 

Don't worry about bipolar, I think it's unlikely you have it.  Withdrawal is sometimes misdiagnosed as bipolar, because symptoms can look similar and most doctors don't understand withdrawal.  I'm sure your friend thought they were trying to help you, but instead they have just caused you increased anxiety.  Try to just let it go and forget about it now, and focus on anything positive you can find, any little improvement.  Keep looking after yourself, be gentle with your body and mind, and be patient, as it takes time to stabilise.

[Mort81]

Hey Rain I also Highly Highly doubt your bi-polar. 2.7 weeks to stabilize isnt that long especially upping and dropping such a big dose. You have two of the most common withdrawal symptoms, stomach problems and heightened anxiety. Nobody in the right mind wouldn't have anxiety while all this stuff starts to happen. I have to tell myself this all the time so don't worry . Your system is working really hard to stabilize which causes all sorts of weird things. During withdrawal I've been scared of all my symptoms. Hopefully it doesn't take much longer to stabilize but when it does your gonna have way less anxiety and less stomach discomfort . Someone smart on this forum said dont identify with your symptoms while In withdrawal because its not the real you. Im dizzy, extremely weak and have heightened agitation among many others. Im 100% sure when all these things start to calm down my anxiety and stomach discomfort won't be there at all . The magic question is when will it stop. That I don't know but I do know your still on 10mg so that should help you stabilize alot quicker than someone who goes 20mg-0

 

Hang in there it will get better

[Rain]

Hey Rain I also Highly Highly doubt your bi-polar. 2.7 weeks to stabilize isnt that long especially upping and dropping such a big dose. You have two of the most common withdrawal symptoms, stomach problems and heightened anxiety. Nobody in the right mind wouldn't have anxiety while all this stuff starts to happen. I have to tell myself this all the time so don't worry . Your system is working really hard to stabilize which causes all sorts of weird things. During withdrawal I've been scared of all my symptoms. Hopefully it doesn't take much longer to stabilize but when it does your gonna have way less anxiety and less stomach discomfort . Someone smart on this forum said dont identify with your symptoms while In withdrawal because its not the real you. Im dizzy, extremely weak and have heightened agitation among many others. Im 100% sure when all these things start to calm down my anxiety and stomach discomfort won't be there at all . The magic question is when will it stop. That I don't know but I do know your still on 10mg so that should help you stabilize alot quicker than someone who goes 20mg-0

 

Hang in there it will get better

Hi Stitch, sorry it was 2.7 month, I make the wrong thing... thank you so much Stitch, this is never happen before on me, i am so scared, it has been 2.7 months, and my friend scrared me too... If it is withdrawal symptom, i accept to have it now, but if it is bipolar, I may have a even tougher life from now on...

[Rain]

I seriously doubt it.

 

Your mind is looking for things to worry about.  It's being a "monkey- mind" , jumping around.  

 

Happy Australia day for tomorrow!

Thank you so much Fresh, I really appreciate that you saying so, tomorrow is national day, I will go to airport to pick up one of my friend, and then we will have dinner together... I hope the hard time will go soon.... 

[Rain]

You can try any kind of ginger and see what works for you.  Ginger tea, ginger ale, crystallised ginger, etc.

 

Don't worry about bipolar, I think it's unlikely you have it.  Withdrawal is sometimes misdiagnosed as bipolar, because symptoms can look similar and most doctors don't understand withdrawal.  I'm sure your friend thought they were trying to help you, but instead they have just caused you increased anxiety.  Try to just let it go and forget about it now, and focus on anything positive you can find, any little improvement.  Keep looking after yourself, be gentle with your body and mind, and be patient, as it takes time to stabilise.

Thank you so much Songbird, I am very very sensitive on my symptoms i have now, so any of my friends suggestion could casue great effect on my emotion and thinking. I think CBT is important for me because since i have had anxiety 9 years ago, my thoughts are always like this, this doesn't help my anxiety and made it even worse.

[Mort81]

No problem but unfortunately 2.7 months is also a short time adapting to such a big swing in doses. Just look at the people on here how long it can take.

[Rain]

No problem but unfortunately 2.7 months is also a short time adapting to such a big swing in doses. Just look at the people on here how long it can take.

OK Stitch, many thanks! Actually I found I have improvements these days, like yesterday and today, I ate well, heart is quite calm... sometimes just can not get rid of my friends suggestions... I often take seriously about their thinking. 

[Mort81]

No problem Rain I had the same problem with a friend. We need safe zones during this time because we are fragile and going through something we never have. I get nervous anytime I read anything negative. All I want to hear from anyone is something good.

[Songbird]

Yes, CBT can help you to identify faulty thinking patterns.  Mindfulness can also be helpful.  You can learn to be the detached observer in your mind - like a scientist studying a phenomenon objectively - you just watch your thoughts come and go, without identifying with them or attaching much importance to them.  Another thing that has helped me is positive self-talk.  You just find some little phrases you like and repeat them to yourself over and over like a stuck record.  Some examples of ones I use are: "Whatever happens, I'll handle it" and "I let go and I relax" and so on.  When I'm having anxiety and I repeat "I relax" to myself over and over, I really do start to relax.

[Rain]

No problem Rain I had the same problem with a friend. We need safe zones during this time because we are fragile and going through something we never have. I get nervous anytime I read anything negative. All I want to hear from anyone is something good.

i totally agree with stitch, I will try my best to protect myself. I will keep updating my condition. 

[Rain]

Yes, CBT can help you to identify faulty thinking patterns.  Mindfulness can also be helpful.  You can learn to be the detached observer in your mind - like a scientist studying a phenomenon objectively - you just watch your thoughts come and go, without identifying with them or attaching much importance to them.  Another thing that has helped me is positive self-talk.  You just find some little phrases you like and repeat them to yourself over and over like a stuck record.  Some examples of ones I use are: "Whatever happens, I'll handle it" and "I let go and I relax" and so on.  When I'm having anxiety and I repeat "I relax" to myself over and over, I really do start to relax.

Wow that sounds relax to me too! I will try to keep eye on these kind of words and keep in mind! i have booked an appointment on 3rd Feb. to see my psychologist.

[blackrabbit]

Hi Rain,

 

Hope I am not too late into the conversation, but I am also trying to get off Lexapro so I thought I would jump in. I started about 4 years ago on 20mg. Last year is when I started tapering off. If you look at my signature, you'll see that I have had a lot of similar withdrawal symptoms as you. The ones I hate the most are the nausea, anxiety attacks, GI distress, and so on. When I first started tapering I hardly had an appetite and felt nauseas after meals always.

 

I am an emetaphobic (fear of vomiting) so these WD symptoms were hell for me as I always thought I was going to get sick. The only time I have gotten sick from it is when I skipped 3 doses (NOT a good idea but I didn't know this at the time). Anyway, what has helped my appetite come back is the supplement L-glutemine. It comes in pill and powder form but I take the pill. The brand I take is GNC (not sure if you have that in Australia). Give that a go, there is no harm done by that or side effects.

 

Anyway, I totally know how you feel and if you would like to message me and talk about your daily struggles or whatever, please do! I am going through a rough time lately so it would be nice to have someone to talk to about all of this.

[Rain]

Dear blackrabbit, you are always welcome into the conversation! I am sorry to hear that you are suffering similar symptoms as mine. Yes it is awful, but we can overcome it, I'll try my best to calm down myself.  

 

We have GNC in Australia and I will have look at that because nausea (vomiting feeling) is like the hell... I feel better today because lots of my friend went to my place to eat and play games. I am relaxed... 

 

But I know, the bad feelings will come back soon, I have to face it. We are all together to help each other so I have the faith to overcome. 

 

I am happy to message you to talk about my feelings if you don't mind... and feel free to message me if you feel you have a hard time, we are all together. 

[Rain]

Just write some updates... After keeping taking Lexapro 10mg same time everyday (3:00pm-3:30pm), I feel 30-40% better than the WD symptoms before, which is good! I tried couple supplements and vitamins, however, I found my stomach is still too weak to accept them. It is so sensitive!  I can only eat oats and congee at this stage, only they can make my stomach feel normal. I will try my best to heal my stomach. 

 

My sleep, heart rate are all normal these days. (only have couple times of vivid nightmare during the end of a sleep). 

 

Anxiety, it is lessened by 30%-40%, and it is not constantly, approx. 5-10minutes in an hour...

[blackrabbit]

Hey rain, glad to see that you're doing at least a little better! I think I am starting to feel some WD but I am not sure to be honest. It's hard to tell.

 

Anyway, I'm sorry you can't eat much still. What supps/vitamins have you been taking?