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#217 scallywag

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Posted 20 January 2017 - 12:35 PM

Delia,

 

I see in your signature that you took clonazepam doses up to 4.0 mg/day. Changing dosage frequently in 10 days is going to cause you problems.

 

Questions for you:

  1. When was the last time you reduced dosage of risperidone?
     
  2. When did you last reduce mirtazapine?

We've posted before that adding medications to treat withdrawal symptoms is not a good idea. It may help for a short time but will only make things harder for you in the long term. Your CNS (central nervous system) is destabilized from the many changes you've made. Have a look again at the chart JanCarol made of your medications and doses since January 2015. post with chart of Delia's medications and doses.

 

You have had symptoms. You have had anxiety. Taking medications has not helped you in the past.

 

In the future, you are going to have symptoms and you WILL experience anxiety again.  You know that the medication doesn't help you. What are you non-drug techniques are going to use to cope with it the next time?


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#218 Delia

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Posted 20 January 2017 - 01:14 PM

Thank you for being here.My last Risperidone reduction happened 4 weeks ago,from 1,45 ml to 1,40 ml.As for Mirtazapine still four weeks ago I started taking 1,87 mg two times a week,3,75 mg the rest of the week.The fact is during the holiday I felt well and calm,starting a new year stressed me a lot as I could only think of new problems.Should I stop taking the Carbamazepine?I started to go to the gym to cope with stress,but it is very hard to feel energized for that,mentally and physically.I started to go to church and I am trying to pray.I do everything with very big efforts.Staying to work has become a struggle also.

 

 1999-Zyprexa 5 mg, then 10 mg until 2013,little Haldol for short;Zyprexa with on and off periods, horrid withdrawal and back on,sometimes added Escitalopram(Cipralex)20 mg;2013-Risperidone 3ml,Depakine 300 mg,Escitalopram 20 mg,Levomepromazine 1 mg;at need Clonazepam(Rivotril) 0,5 mg;october 2014-2015 Risperidone 3ml,Mirtazapine-7,5 mg,Escitalopram-20 mg;2015-Risperidone 2 ml,Mirtazapine-3,75 mg, Escitalopram- tapered during the year;

may 2015(started work)-added Clonazepam 0,5 mg every third day;december 2015-Risperidone 1,5 ml,Mirtazapine 3,75,Escitalopram 5 mg;Clonazepam-increased dosage to 2 mg;

December 2015 until January 2016 added Carbamazepine 600 mg and gave up Clonazepam until March 2016-Risperidone 1,35 ml, Mirtazapine 3,75 every second and third day(schedule of tapering),Escitalopram-0mg,Clonazepam for a week every third day, then reintroduced Carbamazepine 400 mg for a week, then stopped Carbamazepine.

Since the beginning of april 2016 taking Risperidone 1,30 ml, Mirtazapine 0 mg for five days, 1,87 mg for two days, then turned to 3,75 mg every night, Clonazepam 0,5 mg .

April 27 - upped Risperidone to 2 ml and Mirtazapine to 7,5 mg to bear with the lack of Escitalopram that caused huge anxiety, Clonazepam 1 mg every third day. May to November 2016: Risperidone 1,50 ml(tapering from 2ml, started the taper may 2016); Mirtazapine:3,75 mg(tapered from 7,5 mg, started the taper may 2016); Clonazepam 0 mg(started the taper from 0,33 mg daily).January 2017: Risperidone 1,40 ml(tapering every 4 weeks); Mirtazapine 3,75 mg(tapering to 1,87 mg), Clonazepam(10 days): 0,5mg-0,5mg-1 mg. even 4 mg/day sometimes.January 19: added 200 mg Carbamazepine/day( not sure to keep this), off Clonazepam.

Supplements: Omega 3,Magnesium,D,B1, B3, B6, B12, Folic Acid.

 


#219 scallywag

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Posted 20 January 2017 - 02:06 PM

I don't know about the carbamazepine. You'll have to decide whether to stay at 200 mg of that, to decrease dosage or to discontinue.


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1997-1999 Effexor; 2002-2005 Effexor XR 37.5 mg linear taper, dropping same #beads/week with bad results
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Current dose:  7.0 mg (65 beads) 2016-Dec-10, holding into February
+ Supplements: fish oil (1500 mg EPA/500 mg DHA), Vitamins: D3, K2, C; Minerals: Mg, Se, Cr, I, V
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#220 Delia

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Posted 23 January 2017 - 12:00 AM

I took Carbamazepine for three days only: first 2 days I took 200 mg/ day and the 3rd day I took half, which is 100 mg. The 4 th day I took nothing ( and I had a headache the whole day ), now I am in the 5 th day still taking no Carbamazepine or Clonazepam and not feeling the need to. Did Carbamazepine get out of my system? What about Clonazepam? The last time I took Clonazepam was January 19 in the morning 0,5 mg. I will not have them prescribed and I will not use them any more, meaning I won't rely on them like before, especially after the last failure. The unpleasant symptoms I am experiencing are continuous fatigue for years, anxiety coming and leaving and feelings of low mood most of the time, sometimes I get very scared of living, very pessimistic and gloomy. I also experienced SI, I hope it doesn't come back. The last week I slept badly ( and my face itched a lot at night ), since I reduced Mirtazapine I am waking often during the night, but going back to sleep, sometimes I feel awake the whole night, even when dreaming, strange. I don't mind too much, as long as I can keep anxiety under normal levels. It is usually exacerbated by my personal view on life and instead of driving me to solve problems, it blocks me and keeps me frightened and stressed. I am dealing with acceptance, reminding myself the whole thing, and low self-esteem is also a big problem I have always had. I only feel content and hopeful when fully rested, but that seldom happens.


 

 1999-Zyprexa 5 mg, then 10 mg until 2013,little Haldol for short;Zyprexa with on and off periods, horrid withdrawal and back on,sometimes added Escitalopram(Cipralex)20 mg;2013-Risperidone 3ml,Depakine 300 mg,Escitalopram 20 mg,Levomepromazine 1 mg;at need Clonazepam(Rivotril) 0,5 mg;october 2014-2015 Risperidone 3ml,Mirtazapine-7,5 mg,Escitalopram-20 mg;2015-Risperidone 2 ml,Mirtazapine-3,75 mg, Escitalopram- tapered during the year;

may 2015(started work)-added Clonazepam 0,5 mg every third day;december 2015-Risperidone 1,5 ml,Mirtazapine 3,75,Escitalopram 5 mg;Clonazepam-increased dosage to 2 mg;

December 2015 until January 2016 added Carbamazepine 600 mg and gave up Clonazepam until March 2016-Risperidone 1,35 ml, Mirtazapine 3,75 every second and third day(schedule of tapering),Escitalopram-0mg,Clonazepam for a week every third day, then reintroduced Carbamazepine 400 mg for a week, then stopped Carbamazepine.

Since the beginning of april 2016 taking Risperidone 1,30 ml, Mirtazapine 0 mg for five days, 1,87 mg for two days, then turned to 3,75 mg every night, Clonazepam 0,5 mg .

April 27 - upped Risperidone to 2 ml and Mirtazapine to 7,5 mg to bear with the lack of Escitalopram that caused huge anxiety, Clonazepam 1 mg every third day. May to November 2016: Risperidone 1,50 ml(tapering from 2ml, started the taper may 2016); Mirtazapine:3,75 mg(tapered from 7,5 mg, started the taper may 2016); Clonazepam 0 mg(started the taper from 0,33 mg daily).January 2017: Risperidone 1,40 ml(tapering every 4 weeks); Mirtazapine 3,75 mg(tapering to 1,87 mg), Clonazepam(10 days): 0,5mg-0,5mg-1 mg. even 4 mg/day sometimes.January 19: added 200 mg Carbamazepine/day( not sure to keep this), off Clonazepam.

Supplements: Omega 3,Magnesium,D,B1, B3, B6, B12, Folic Acid.

 


#221 scallywag

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Posted 23 January 2017 - 01:27 PM

Delia, the problem isn't about whether the drugs are still in your bloodstream. The problem is that the changes are destabilizing to your body and specifically CNS (central nervous system), both of which NEED stability.

 

I'm really very sorry that you are feeling all those neuro-emotions and having fatigue and difficulty sleeping. Use the times when you feel a bit better to learn about and start non-drug techniques.


This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.
 
1997-1999 Effexor; 2002-2005 Effexor XR 37.5 mg linear taper, dropping same #beads/week with bad results
Cymbalta (brand name), 60 mg 2012 - 2015; 2016 20 mg - 7 mg, detailed taper doses in this post;
Current dose:  7.0 mg (65 beads) 2016-Dec-10, holding into February
+ Supplements: fish oil (1500 mg EPA/500 mg DHA), Vitamins: D3, K2, C; Minerals: Mg, Se, Cr, I, V
scallywag's Introduction Post

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