geminigirl Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHC2wH_iGYM 2010 started 10 mg celexa, 2011 went up to 20 mg 06/2014 started tapering (20 mg,10 mg alternate days) 19/09/2014 crashed at 10 mg 20/09/2014 updosed to 20 mg to try and stabilize- Never stabilized and CNS basically plummeted August 31 2015- Started my 5% taper anyways May 3 2016- At 14 mg the tapering caught up with me- Withdrawal included severe anxiety, feeling like im on speed, suicidal and homicidal ideation, akathesia, feeling like I was on heroin, memory loss, PGAD, feeling like I was on an acid May 4 2016- Updosed to 15.5 mg to try and stabilize June 4- Started taking 2 mg 5 times a day which adds up to 10 mg because of akathesia when taking my full dose. Akathesia symtpoms smaller July 27th- Dropped from 15.5 mg to 10 mg because could no longer tolerate taking drug- bad side effects mainly akathesia and emotional deadness. Oct 11- Improved a lot since May 4th after my crash. Withdrawal symptoms still left- DR/DP, emotional anasthesia, akathesia, tingling in head, feeling like my body and face disappears, messed up sound interpretation, perception and difficulty reading social and emotional cues during DR/DP, apathy, inability to tell if I am in dream or reality, disturbed sleep. Started having few windows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area1255 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Yeah, I've heard a lot of scare stories about those in-house Psych's, abuse, and experimentation. That's everywhere, though. Sometimes it comes in the form of more indirect manipulation e.g suggestion for enhancement etc I was in the air force and recall alot of dealings and some used amp just for the extra go. Especially with the srcs, and during Fl prep. Past AD Experiences : (Fluvoxamine 3 years, D/C'd @ age 15). “Light thinks it travels faster than anything but it is wrong. No matter how fast light travels, it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it” ~Terry Pratchett~ WITHDRAWAL REGIMEN/STORY Originally for OCD, the luvox took about 6 months to taper off. Withdrawal supplements; lemon balm, Vitamin B3, black water/fulvic acid, high-protein diet to restore neurotransmitters, aniracetam to counter memory issues, deprenyl for persisting anhedonia. Regimen still maintained til this day. Lemon balm, generally as capsules, however, as I suffer chronic Insomnia, I often use essential oil or as aromatherapy before bed , in combination with magnesium and lysine on bad nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area1255 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Good video though! Past AD Experiences : (Fluvoxamine 3 years, D/C'd @ age 15). “Light thinks it travels faster than anything but it is wrong. No matter how fast light travels, it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it” ~Terry Pratchett~ WITHDRAWAL REGIMEN/STORY Originally for OCD, the luvox took about 6 months to taper off. Withdrawal supplements; lemon balm, Vitamin B3, black water/fulvic acid, high-protein diet to restore neurotransmitters, aniracetam to counter memory issues, deprenyl for persisting anhedonia. Regimen still maintained til this day. Lemon balm, generally as capsules, however, as I suffer chronic Insomnia, I often use essential oil or as aromatherapy before bed , in combination with magnesium and lysine on bad nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I learned on a rather obscure ww2 site about the drugs they gave them men to make them keep going... it may have saved them it may have damaged them. Perhaps the first ptsd soldiers were those returning home addicted. My father was one of them who had trouble settling in after the war. There are other soldier stories for anyone interested http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/7486-common-anti-malarial-drug-linked-to-serious-mental-disorders/ WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area1255 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I learned on a rather obscure ww2 site about the drugs they gave them men to make them keep going... it may have saved them it may have damaged them. Perhaps the first ptsd soldiers were those returning home addicted. My father was one of them who had trouble settling in after the war. There are other soldier stories for anyone interested http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/7486-common-anti-malarial-drug-linked-to-serious-mental-disorders/ Yep, methamphetamine and Dexedrine mainly. Now it's modafanil and desoxyn. Moda is primarily an alertness aid, whereas desoxyn is the strongest pill form of methamphetamine. Past AD Experiences : (Fluvoxamine 3 years, D/C'd @ age 15). “Light thinks it travels faster than anything but it is wrong. No matter how fast light travels, it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it” ~Terry Pratchett~ WITHDRAWAL REGIMEN/STORY Originally for OCD, the luvox took about 6 months to taper off. Withdrawal supplements; lemon balm, Vitamin B3, black water/fulvic acid, high-protein diet to restore neurotransmitters, aniracetam to counter memory issues, deprenyl for persisting anhedonia. Regimen still maintained til this day. Lemon balm, generally as capsules, however, as I suffer chronic Insomnia, I often use essential oil or as aromatherapy before bed , in combination with magnesium and lysine on bad nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 I learned on a rather obscure ww2 site about the drugs they gave them men to make them keep going... it may have saved them it may have damaged them. Perhaps the first ptsd soldiers were those returning home addicted. My father was one of them who had trouble settling in after the war. There are other soldier stories for anyone interested http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/7486-common-anti-malarial-drug-linked-to-serious-mental-disorders/ Yep, methamphetamine and Dexedrine mainly. Now it's modafanil and desoxyn. Moda is primarily an alertness aid, whereas desoxyn is the strongest pill form of methamphetamine. No that was not the drug I was thinking of....it was a synthetic morphine on the ww2 site I was on they showed pictures of the packet the pills came in each soldier had some I think the name started with a T but can't be sure it may have been mixed with the speed... found this Drugs of War https://www.thefix.com/content/10-wars-and-drugs-defined-them7413 I will look for the drug I am thinking of... it is not that one. This link talks of the synthetic morphine but more interesting is the discussion on PTSD... post traumatic stress disorder I did not know adrenaline caused a memory to set better... for one thing... but moral issues are more interesting. http://www.academia.edu/16557360/Among_Super_Soldiers_Killing_Machines_and_Addicted_Soldiers_the_Ambivalent_Relationship_between_the_Military_and_Synthetic_Drugs WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area1255 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I learned on a rather obscure ww2 site about the drugs they gave them men to make them keep going... it may have saved them it may have damaged them. Perhaps the first ptsd soldiers were those returning home addicted. My father was one of them who had trouble settling in after the war. There are other soldier stories for anyone interested http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/7486-common-anti-malarial-drug-linked-to-serious-mental-disorders/ Yep, methamphetamine and Dexedrine mainly. Now it's modafanil and desoxyn. Moda is primarily an alertness aid, whereas desoxyn is the strongest pill form of methamphetamine. No that was not the drug I was thinking of....it was a synthetic morphine on the ww2 site I was on they showed pictures of the packet the pills came in each soldier had some I think the name started with a T but can't be sure it may have been mixed with the speed... found this Drugs of War https://www.thefix.com/content/10-wars-and-drugs-defined-them7413 I will look for the drug I am thinking of... it is not that one. This link talks of the synthetic morphine but more interesting is the discussion on PTSD... post traumatic stress disorder I did not know adrenaline caused a memory to set better... for one thing... but moral issues are more interesting. http://www.academia.edu/16557360/Among_Super_Soldiers_Killing_Machines_and_Addicted_Soldiers_the_Ambivalent_Relationship_between_the_Military_and_Synthetic_Drugs Dilaudid maybe? That's a strong psychologically active opiate that is very addictive, but causes euphoria and trance-like state as well as a bunch of other effects. Obsessions and compulsions can increase on opiates, and other issues may submerge but these particular drugs have been used on injured soldiers in particular. Past AD Experiences : (Fluvoxamine 3 years, D/C'd @ age 15). “Light thinks it travels faster than anything but it is wrong. No matter how fast light travels, it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it” ~Terry Pratchett~ WITHDRAWAL REGIMEN/STORY Originally for OCD, the luvox took about 6 months to taper off. Withdrawal supplements; lemon balm, Vitamin B3, black water/fulvic acid, high-protein diet to restore neurotransmitters, aniracetam to counter memory issues, deprenyl for persisting anhedonia. Regimen still maintained til this day. Lemon balm, generally as capsules, however, as I suffer chronic Insomnia, I often use essential oil or as aromatherapy before bed , in combination with magnesium and lysine on bad nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 https://www.quora.com/Were-allied-soldiers-in-World-War-2-given-illicit-drugs-to-get-through-the-hell-of-war This link has some pictures of the drugs given and I don't see the one I am looking for. The picture I found before had a light green card board box with pills still in it. I could be wrong it could have been meth... men coming home addicted to meth how that changes the picture if only my mother were alive so I could tell her. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 If my memory is right the drug I am think of was invented during ww2 speed came much earlier During World War II, amphetamine and methamphetamine were used extensively by both the Allied and Axis forces for their stimulant and performance-enhancing effects.[4][7][8] Eventually, as the addictive properties of the drugs became known, governments began to place strict controls on the sale of the drugs.[4] For example, during the early 1970s in the United States, amphetamine became a schedule II controlled substance under the Controlled Substances Act Pharmacologist Gerhard Orzechowski and a group of other researchers were commissioned in Kiel to develop this drug, and by later in the year developed a formula which contained in each tablet: 5 mg of oxycodone(brand name Eukodal), 5 mg of cocaine and 3 mg of methamphetamine (then called Pervitin, now available under the brand name Desoxyn).[3] Nazi doctors found that equipment-laden test subjects could march in a circle for up to 90 kilometers per day without rest while carrying a 20 kilogram backpack.[4] http://www.bluelight.org/vb/archive/index.php/t-257715.html a lot of guessing and some links to explore if you wanted... it may have been dalaudid... WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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