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#181 scallywag

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 12:46 PM

CJ - you may want to search the site to find topics relevant to a question you have. One of the easiest ways to do this is to use a web search engine (google, bing, duckduckgo, etc.). To get topics from this site at the top of the results, just include site:survivingantidepressants.org with the keywords when you search.


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Posted 21 January 2017 - 12:55 PM

Thank you, I will try that. I've tried to search on the site but can't find anyone describing it like me. Maybe doing in that way I will. And hopefully they can suggest how to stop this pain 😢
You can hear my story on the Let's Talk Withdrawal podcast. Its a global weekly podcast created by James Moore that interviews experts and others suffering from the awful effects of psychiatric medication. Here's how to listen...

If you have an iPhone, iPad or PC/Mac with iTunes, this link will take you to the iTunes Store where you can subscribe so each new episode will download automatically...
https://goo.gl/Yz7Zmp
Or you can also listen and download each episode here on any device...
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Started AD aged 14 (1997)
Stopped AD Escitralopram aged 33 (May 14th 2016) weaned down from 20mg to 1mg
10 months SSRI free since May 2016

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Posted 22 January 2017 - 01:00 AM

Please don't despair! I am sure you habe experienced some other weird symtomps that have passed again in your withdrawal, right? There is no quick fix to make this go away, only time and patience!you can get there! Have you by any chance read "A life at last" by Paul (can't remember his last name right now).. he writes about how to get rid of panic attacks but I found his words very inspiring and true for all WD related symptoms as well! I read it a few times and always felt new hope!!

2005-2006: Cipralex 5 mg

2009-2010: Cipralex 5 mg

2012-2015: Cipralex 5mg, 10mg 

tapered 10mg-7.5mg-5mg-2,5-0 (I always waited for a few weeks on the current dosage until I felt stable. Steps were too big I realized too late)

Completely drug free since August 2015


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Posted 01 February 2017 - 01:26 AM

So I've just spent the bight hours down A&E (ER) because of a pinching pain and fluttering in my calf that's been there just over a week. Thankfully everything is ok, all tests were clear and he couldn't explain the pains and sensations I'm having...
So I've just thought could this be another delightful withdrawal symptom? I'm 9 months off Escitralopram now.
You can hear my story on the Let's Talk Withdrawal podcast. Its a global weekly podcast created by James Moore that interviews experts and others suffering from the awful effects of psychiatric medication. Here's how to listen...

If you have an iPhone, iPad or PC/Mac with iTunes, this link will take you to the iTunes Store where you can subscribe so each new episode will download automatically...
https://goo.gl/Yz7Zmp
Or you can also listen and download each episode here on any device...
http://jfmoore.libsyn.com/

Started AD aged 14 (1997)
Stopped AD Escitralopram aged 33 (May 14th 2016) weaned down from 20mg to 1mg
10 months SSRI free since May 2016

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 11:32 PM

Can anyone relate to this??
I'm nearly 9 months off of escitralopram...
Before Christmas I had 2 weeks of chronic pain on the right side of my head, it was a burning stabbing pain, i couldn't even touch my scalp because it was so painful, it left me bed ridden. It thankfully eased off from the acute level it was at but it's left me with pain in the top right hand side of my head that sometimes radiates onto my forehead or the back of my head. It almost feels like an ice cream headache. Then at times my scalp becomes so sore and tender I can't even brush my hair. I still also get the insect crawling feeling on my face and head but it's not painful.
I've had a MRI scan which is normal. So what is this?? Can anyone PLEASE shed some light on this?
Thank you x


I had it along with whatever the type of weird pain and sensation you read online from whoever poisoned by these drugs. Literally all my symptoms and health issues are caused by the same dank drug, and I quit thinking any other causes, or wasting money and time going to doctors or hospitals. I would say it's safe most of the symptoms you are getting in WD are drug related
<p>2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg, first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, slight improvement with pain2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR2016 Feb., started fast taper for the drug toxicity caused by the one dose of 4.2mg, dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, sliding Down to 0.13mg by 2/13, then 0.07mg since 2/18, 0.06mg 2/20-3/17, 0.13mg 3/18

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 12:44 AM

CJAJ16 you can count on every weirdness being based in WD! For SURE! I know it's scary and as soon as we have a new sensation we ask ourselves again: Can this really be WD or is it something else? It ain't! you're only making things harder if you drive yourself crazy. And look.. even if it would be something else- the diagnosis would be taling some psychodrug again... breathe in breathe out and blame it all on wirhdrawal!

2005-2006: Cipralex 5 mg

2009-2010: Cipralex 5 mg

2012-2015: Cipralex 5mg, 10mg 

tapered 10mg-7.5mg-5mg-2,5-0 (I always waited for a few weeks on the current dosage until I felt stable. Steps were too big I realized too late)

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 08:28 AM

Hello Everyone

I just wanted to share this... i was very honoured to be interviewed by the inspiring James Moore last week to share my withdrawal story. My story is part of a new weekly global podcast that will focus on sharing sufferers stories and expert interviews.
It's a wonderful idea and I hope it brings hope and comfort to others suffering.
If you'd like to listen or get involved in anyway here's how you can...

If you have an iPhone, iPad or PC/Mac with iTunes, this link will take you to the iTunes Store where you can subscribe so each new episode will download automatically...

https://goo.gl/Yz7Zmp

Or you can also listen and download each episode here on any device...

http://jfmoore.libsyn.com/
You can hear my story on the Let's Talk Withdrawal podcast. Its a global weekly podcast created by James Moore that interviews experts and others suffering from the awful effects of psychiatric medication. Here's how to listen...

If you have an iPhone, iPad or PC/Mac with iTunes, this link will take you to the iTunes Store where you can subscribe so each new episode will download automatically...
https://goo.gl/Yz7Zmp
Or you can also listen and download each episode here on any device...
http://jfmoore.libsyn.com/

Started AD aged 14 (1997)
Stopped AD Escitralopram aged 33 (May 14th 2016) weaned down from 20mg to 1mg
10 months SSRI free since May 2016

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:41 AM

Hello Everyone

I just wanted to share this... i was very honoured to be interviewed by the inspiring James Moore last week to share my withdrawal story. My story is part of a new weekly global podcast that will focus on sharing sufferers stories and expert interviews.
It's a wonderful idea and I hope it brings hope and comfort to others suffering.
If you'd like to listen or get involved in anyway here's how you can...

 

CJAJ16,

 

Thank for sharing this. I just listened to the 2 podcasts to date and the intro and love that he is doing this.  Looking forward to hearing your podcast.

 

This could be a very useful thing for a lot of people who are feeling so isolated by this process. 

 

It would be great if we could get someone like Alto to tell her story and the story behind SA to James.

 

Best,

 

Andy


Started Sertraline 50mg and Clonazapam .375mg circa 2000; Sx Spring 2012. increased to .5 Clonazapam - no improvement; Started taper of K November 2012 (benzo sites said "taper benzo first"); increased Sert to100mg no improvement; Finished K microtaper in November 2014
Started Sertraline taper from 100mg in December 2014 by reducing to 75mg; Reduced to 62.5mg on January 1, 2015 and 50mg on February 1, 2015; Held at 50mg through April 5 when I got Rx for liquid Sertraline
Reduced dosage in 10% or less drops from 50mg to 25mg -- at single tablet on 10/5

Held through February with no noticeable change

March 2016 attempted to begin taper again but miscalculated into 1 week accidental updose to 32.5mg; dropped back to 25mg for 1 week; tapered to 22.5mg the following week; hit with symptoms and tried to stabilize between 22.5mg and 25mg.  Transitioned to all liquid for accuracy. Was dealing with horrible insomnia which had me sleeping once every other day.  Went back to 25mg liquid and held until October 1, 2016.  October 1 cut 4% to 24mg.  November 1 cut 8.3% to 22mg. December 1 cut 9% to 20mg.  Not great but functional. 2/1/17 cut 5% to 19mg.  Taking Spray-on Magnesium, Magnesium supplements, D3, Omega 3, curcumin, Co-Q10, Valerian, 81mg Aspirin, L-Theanine


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Posted 11 March 2017 - 02:09 AM

that is amazing, I'll definitely listen to this today!

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2009-2010: Cipralex 5 mg

2012-2015: Cipralex 5mg, 10mg 

tapered 10mg-7.5mg-5mg-2,5-0 (I always waited for a few weeks on the current dosage until I felt stable. Steps were too big I realized too late)

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 02:31 AM

Thank you both!
Andy my interview is there now to listen too.

I think it's wonderful what James is doing, this weekly podcast is going to be so helpful in supporting those of us suffering but also in raising awareness!

I wish there was a way I could share its existence with all the members of this website because it would help so many!
You can hear my story on the Let's Talk Withdrawal podcast. Its a global weekly podcast created by James Moore that interviews experts and others suffering from the awful effects of psychiatric medication. Here's how to listen...

If you have an iPhone, iPad or PC/Mac with iTunes, this link will take you to the iTunes Store where you can subscribe so each new episode will download automatically...
https://goo.gl/Yz7Zmp
Or you can also listen and download each episode here on any device...
http://jfmoore.libsyn.com/

Started AD aged 14 (1997)
Stopped AD Escitralopram aged 33 (May 14th 2016) weaned down from 20mg to 1mg
10 months SSRI free since May 2016

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 03:24 AM

Just listened to these.  Really great!  And well done Claire.

 

You could put a link in your signature.  I'm going to.


Reminder to self:      P A T I E N C E       I want to go faster    but I won't

 

Antidepressants:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (caused muscle weakness), Zoloft; Cipramil CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks soon after)

Pristiq:  50mg mid 2012, 100mg beg 2014 (mild Serotonin Toxicity)     Current:  Pristiq 24mg (from 19 May 2017)

 

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My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

 

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 04:02 AM

Andy my interview is there now to listen too.

 

I listened, Claire.  You did great and it was a very good interview.

 

I love that he's doing that.

 

Best,

 

Andy


Started Sertraline 50mg and Clonazapam .375mg circa 2000; Sx Spring 2012. increased to .5 Clonazapam - no improvement; Started taper of K November 2012 (benzo sites said "taper benzo first"); increased Sert to100mg no improvement; Finished K microtaper in November 2014
Started Sertraline taper from 100mg in December 2014 by reducing to 75mg; Reduced to 62.5mg on January 1, 2015 and 50mg on February 1, 2015; Held at 50mg through April 5 when I got Rx for liquid Sertraline
Reduced dosage in 10% or less drops from 50mg to 25mg -- at single tablet on 10/5

Held through February with no noticeable change

March 2016 attempted to begin taper again but miscalculated into 1 week accidental updose to 32.5mg; dropped back to 25mg for 1 week; tapered to 22.5mg the following week; hit with symptoms and tried to stabilize between 22.5mg and 25mg.  Transitioned to all liquid for accuracy. Was dealing with horrible insomnia which had me sleeping once every other day.  Went back to 25mg liquid and held until October 1, 2016.  October 1 cut 4% to 24mg.  November 1 cut 8.3% to 22mg. December 1 cut 9% to 20mg.  Not great but functional. 2/1/17 cut 5% to 19mg.  Taking Spray-on Magnesium, Magnesium supplements, D3, Omega 3, curcumin, Co-Q10, Valerian, 81mg Aspirin, L-Theanine


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Posted 11 March 2017 - 04:17 AM

Thank you Andy.
It's wonderful what James is doing! He's truly inspiring!
I know his podcast will bring a lot of hope and comfort to many!
You can hear my story on the Let's Talk Withdrawal podcast. Its a global weekly podcast created by James Moore that interviews experts and others suffering from the awful effects of psychiatric medication. Here's how to listen...

If you have an iPhone, iPad or PC/Mac with iTunes, this link will take you to the iTunes Store where you can subscribe so each new episode will download automatically...
https://goo.gl/Yz7Zmp
Or you can also listen and download each episode here on any device...
http://jfmoore.libsyn.com/

Started AD aged 14 (1997)
Stopped AD Escitralopram aged 33 (May 14th 2016) weaned down from 20mg to 1mg
10 months SSRI free since May 2016

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Posted 12 March 2017 - 01:01 AM

!!!!!!!! Congratulations!


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 05:22 PM

Hi CJAJ,

Thanks for the I of about the post!
I scanned your posts again and don't see your tapering info before you stopped at 1mg.
When did you start the taper and how long did it last?

Have you seen improvements in any areas being off for 9 months?
Lex
<p>2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg, first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, slight improvement with pain2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR2016 Feb., started fast taper for the drug toxicity caused by the one dose of 4.2mg, dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, sliding Down to 0.13mg by 2/13, then 0.07mg since 2/18, 0.06mg 2/20-3/17, 0.13mg 3/18

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 11:50 PM

That is one really good interview! you sound very professional:) I think I might habe cried talking about such hard times! very well structured, easy to follow, understand. really great! I hope that many many more interviews will follow, it felt good, listening to you and the orher two interviews! Kind of a little more personal than writing. What a great project

2005-2006: Cipralex 5 mg

2009-2010: Cipralex 5 mg

2012-2015: Cipralex 5mg, 10mg 

tapered 10mg-7.5mg-5mg-2,5-0 (I always waited for a few weeks on the current dosage until I felt stable. Steps were too big I realized too late)

Completely drug free since August 2015


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Posted 23 April 2017 - 08:09 PM

Things aren't going well...

I don't know how to do this anymore 😢
I'm literally existing and dragging myself through each day until I can go back to sleep. Tapering off was hard, battling the physical symptoms of discontinuation syndrome was hard but putting myself and my life back together is hardest of all.
Emotionally I'm broken. My anxiety is awful, I have intrusive thoughts and depression. I'm in therapy to try and help but it's just making me realise why I've always had anxiety problems and if I've had them all my life then what's going to change now!? Only difference is I've not longer got the drugs doing whatever they were doing to "level me out".
I literally don't know what to do everything feels frightening and too hard for me. Do I just go back on the drugs now? I can't carry on like this and I don't know how to get me back or at least enough of me to be functioning again instead of living like a hermit that needs babysitting 24/7.
Sorry I just don't know where else to turn, I'm so lost and so desperate. I should be celebrating 1 year off the drugs in 3 weeks instead I'll just be reflecting on the worse year on my life that feels like it's never going to get any better 😢
You can hear my story on the Let's Talk Withdrawal podcast. Its a global weekly podcast created by James Moore that interviews experts and others suffering from the awful effects of psychiatric medication. Here's how to listen...

If you have an iPhone, iPad or PC/Mac with iTunes, this link will take you to the iTunes Store where you can subscribe so each new episode will download automatically...
https://goo.gl/Yz7Zmp
Or you can also listen and download each episode here on any device...
http://jfmoore.libsyn.com/

Started AD aged 14 (1997)
Stopped AD Escitralopram aged 33 (May 14th 2016) weaned down from 20mg to 1mg
10 months SSRI free since May 2016

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 11:33 PM

Hi there,
so sorry to hear this:( how was your life before meds and while you were on them? You were on medication for a very long time. Compared to you mine was very short but I am still not healed and I am off meds almost 1,5 years now. It's horrible to be suffering this way soooooo long I know but I believe that it "just takes a long time". Where you a lot better on medication?

2005-2006: Cipralex 5 mg

2009-2010: Cipralex 5 mg

2012-2015: Cipralex 5mg, 10mg 

tapered 10mg-7.5mg-5mg-2,5-0 (I always waited for a few weeks on the current dosage until I felt stable. Steps were too big I realized too late)

Completely drug free since August 2015


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Posted 24 April 2017 - 12:20 AM

I was on them 19 years. My life was good before them but I developed adolescent anxiety and depression and became agoraphobic and didn't leave the house for two years. I became reliant on my parents for everything. It feels like I'm back there now.
I've not been able to work for the last year and I don't think they'll give me much longer so I think I'm going to lose my job.
It's taking too long 😢
You can hear my story on the Let's Talk Withdrawal podcast. Its a global weekly podcast created by James Moore that interviews experts and others suffering from the awful effects of psychiatric medication. Here's how to listen...

If you have an iPhone, iPad or PC/Mac with iTunes, this link will take you to the iTunes Store where you can subscribe so each new episode will download automatically...
https://goo.gl/Yz7Zmp
Or you can also listen and download each episode here on any device...
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Started AD aged 14 (1997)
Stopped AD Escitralopram aged 33 (May 14th 2016) weaned down from 20mg to 1mg
10 months SSRI free since May 2016

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Posted 24 April 2017 - 12:28 AM

:( And you developed this anxiety and not leaving the house before you started taking ADs or while? 
It´s so heartbreaking to hear these stories from so many people because once you know those sorrows and fears - you can really rely. 
Have you been able to lead a normal life while being on Ads? You were working and everything? 
 


2005-2006: Cipralex 5 mg

2009-2010: Cipralex 5 mg

2012-2015: Cipralex 5mg, 10mg 

tapered 10mg-7.5mg-5mg-2,5-0 (I always waited for a few weeks on the current dosage until I felt stable. Steps were too big I realized too late)

Completely drug free since August 2015


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Posted 24 April 2017 - 12:43 AM

That all happened before I started AD. They are what gave me the push to get out the house and get better. Whilst on them I was fine, had no problems. It was during tapering I experienced withdrawal symptoms but not in a disabling way. It was 5 days after taking the final dose that I developed discontinuation syndrome and that's when I became physically very very poorly. I've spent the last year recovering because I was determined to stay off them. The physical symptoms have eased greatly but emotionally I'm broken. I'm terrified to take them again but I sometimes think I should start again then maybe I can function without this anxiety 😞
You can hear my story on the Let's Talk Withdrawal podcast. Its a global weekly podcast created by James Moore that interviews experts and others suffering from the awful effects of psychiatric medication. Here's how to listen...

If you have an iPhone, iPad or PC/Mac with iTunes, this link will take you to the iTunes Store where you can subscribe so each new episode will download automatically...
https://goo.gl/Yz7Zmp
Or you can also listen and download each episode here on any device...
http://jfmoore.libsyn.com/

Started AD aged 14 (1997)
Stopped AD Escitralopram aged 33 (May 14th 2016) weaned down from 20mg to 1mg
10 months SSRI free since May 2016

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Posted 24 April 2017 - 01:30 AM

It is a really hard decision to make, I understand. I think the only way is to find a balance between rationality, believes and hard will. For me, antidepressants never made any significant change. I had ups and downs no matter if I was taking any or not. 
But generally I was better without them. I think in my case they made more damage than good. For me it was the same..tapering was hard but somehow manageable but after taking my last dosage hell broke lose. WD is very disabling, concerning work I had to cut back a lot but I was lucky because I am self dependent, have my own office, so at least I could do my best to have a calm surrounding. I would´t have lasted in a big office or working with many other people around me. If you can - I´d push through as much time without them as possible because otherwise you might always question "how would it have been if I had stayed off for longer". Have you had better windows since being off? 
 


2005-2006: Cipralex 5 mg

2009-2010: Cipralex 5 mg

2012-2015: Cipralex 5mg, 10mg 

tapered 10mg-7.5mg-5mg-2,5-0 (I always waited for a few weeks on the current dosage until I felt stable. Steps were too big I realized too late)

Completely drug free since August 2015


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Posted 24 April 2017 - 01:40 AM

Yeh I have had some windows. I felt stronger before I began therapy 7 weeks ago, I now feel worse cause it's bringing up stuff I'm finding hard to process and deal with.
I have nothing to look forward to being this broken, it feels never ending.
You can hear my story on the Let's Talk Withdrawal podcast. Its a global weekly podcast created by James Moore that interviews experts and others suffering from the awful effects of psychiatric medication. Here's how to listen...

If you have an iPhone, iPad or PC/Mac with iTunes, this link will take you to the iTunes Store where you can subscribe so each new episode will download automatically...
https://goo.gl/Yz7Zmp
Or you can also listen and download each episode here on any device...
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#204 Pepita

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Posted 24 April 2017 - 01:54 AM

ohhhh ok - if I were you I´d try quitting therapy sessions and see if you get better after a few weeks. WD makes dealing with any kind of emotional stress a lot harder. You are not yourself so to speak:) I can guarantee that´s true as I handle any emotional situations very weird since being on WD. Stress at work, people being sick, parents of friends dying, my cat soon to be put to sleep ...all of that is a lot harder to deal with than usually. I have read in a book by Baylissa Frederik that she would´t advise therapy in WD because it is too hard to handle. If any therapy than more of a CBT where you learn how to handle your situation - not talking about painful past events. 
Sounds logical? Maybe you could try that and see how you feel before making a decision? I wish you all the best and strength! 


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#205 CJAJ16

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Posted 24 April 2017 - 02:18 AM

Thank you yes that does make sense to me but I have to go to therapy because I waited 7 months for it and my employers need to see I'm doing something. I had thought maybe it was too much but I guess I thought that WD was over because the physical symptoms are so much better?
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#206 Pepita

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Posted 24 April 2017 - 03:06 AM

Maybe you can ask your therapist for a  more behavioral coaching style? Does he / she know about withdrawal or has more experience to it? The physical symptoms were first to get better as well . Maybe you can try to openly tell the therapist that you think this might be too much at the moment and if you could "take it easy on traumatic past stuff"? 
 


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2009-2010: Cipralex 5 mg

2012-2015: Cipralex 5mg, 10mg 

tapered 10mg-7.5mg-5mg-2,5-0 (I always waited for a few weeks on the current dosage until I felt stable. Steps were too big I realized too late)

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#207 mammaP

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Posted 24 April 2017 - 06:28 AM

Hi CJ, I can empathise with the feelings about therapy. I had this type of therapy years ago and it didn't help me one bit. It was like reliving every trauma all over again at the same time and I did not cope with it at all. I was also suffering terrible effects from the multitude of drugs they were experimenting with. 

It seems to be the wrong type of counselling , or the wrong therapist.  Maybe you could explain that you are not beneffitting from this right now and maybe try CBT as Pepita suggested. The reply could be that you need to open the wounds in order to heal them but personally that did noit help me. I saw a CBT therapist some years after that and she was brilliant, that really helped. I told her I was niot prepared to delve into my past and she explained that CBT is about the present and moving into the future. Changing thought processes and behaviour. It was fascinating and helped much more than the 'trauma' therapy. 

 

Brassmonkey has written an excellent series of essays, Dealing with emotional spirals, and I highly recommend it, it is spot on and very interesting. It has helped me to see how my own thoughts and feelings from the past affect me day to day without even realising it. 

 

http://survivinganti...tional-spirals/

 

Also check out Nik and Eva Speakman, they are in the UK and help many people with past traumas and phobias without reliving them. I saw them live last year and they really are good if you listen with an open mind. 

 

Take a look at their youtube channel.  https://www.youtube....speakman/videos


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#208 Frogie

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Posted 01 May 2017 - 05:45 AM

Hi :

I haven't heard from you forever!

Just thought I would check in and see how you are doing?

Hope well. :)

Take care,
Frogie xx
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