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1 minute ago, Sheri755 said:

I'll add one bead every four days

 

The idea of updosing isn't to get rid of the withdrawal altogether but to bring it to a level that you can live with.  If after 4 days you are feeling some improvement then it is better to give it a bit longer, up to 2 weeks, before deciding if you need to increase.

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1 minute ago, ChessieCat said:

 

The idea of updosing isn't to get rid of the withdrawal altogether but to bring it to a level that you can live with.  If after 4 days you are feeling some improvement then it is better to give it a bit longer, up to 2 weeks, before deciding if you need to increase.

Got it!!  Thanks for explaining and your prompt replies!! ❤️

Effexor XR 300 (brand) mg & various SSRIs 15 yrs (Effexor XR 300 mg past 10 yrs

Clonazepam, 1.0 mg. am, .5 mg pm. - 15 yrs, 7-17-16- Began .5 three times a day

Vyvanse 60 mg, - 2 yrs, Cut to 50 mg for 6 mths, Cut to 30 mg. on 4-1-16. Tapering.

Approx. 4-1-15 began Effexor XR 300 taper, very slowly for a year. Held at 37.5 for about 3 mths. Cut to 18 mg for 2 wks to 0. WD began 2 wks later. Depression, anxiety, paranoia, low appetite, nausea.

7-14-16-Reinstated 5 beads Effx after 4 mths misery.Pooped out 10 days.

9-12-16-to present- Wide eyed terror, bedridden fear, no appetite/feeling of being full.

10-30-16- Began 15% liquid tapering of 30 mg Vyvanse. (25 mg)

11-13-16- Liquid Vyvanse 22 mg,11-27-16- Liquid 15 mg, 12-12-16- Vyvanse 12.5 for 5 days. 12-16 - 12-29, 15 mg.

11-20-16- Switched back to 1.0 clonazepam am & .5 bedtime

12-30-16- Moved to 15 mg COMPOUNDED Vyvanse.Current 4/11-4/25 7.5 mg.(10% ev 2 wks) Off Vyvanse

Current meds:Effexor XR- 3 Beads, Clonazepam-1.0 mg am, .5 mg bedtime,Vyvanse-(tapering) Estradiol- 2

mg,Progesterone 200 mg,Testosterone 30 mg/ml,Nature Throid- 48.75 mg.(12-21-16-65 mg.) (4-18-17-81.25 mg) Current supplements: Fish Oil-1360 mg, Curamin- 2706 mg.

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I'm suffering so very badly with terror and now the MARCONS in my sinuses have worsened causing continuous slime that I'm swallowing. I think it's called biofilm. 

A sticky yellow substance is oozing from my face and scalp. This is making my sxs worse. I just can't believe this. 

 

I've been suffering daily for well over a year now. I'm down to 1.3 mg of the Vyvanse and plan to stop tomorrow. 

 

How long should I wait to reduce the 5 beads of Effexor?  I decided not to increase the beads as mentioned in the previous post. 

 

Thank you for any help help with these issues. 

 

Sheri

Effexor XR 300 (brand) mg & various SSRIs 15 yrs (Effexor XR 300 mg past 10 yrs

Clonazepam, 1.0 mg. am, .5 mg pm. - 15 yrs, 7-17-16- Began .5 three times a day

Vyvanse 60 mg, - 2 yrs, Cut to 50 mg for 6 mths, Cut to 30 mg. on 4-1-16. Tapering.

Approx. 4-1-15 began Effexor XR 300 taper, very slowly for a year. Held at 37.5 for about 3 mths. Cut to 18 mg for 2 wks to 0. WD began 2 wks later. Depression, anxiety, paranoia, low appetite, nausea.

7-14-16-Reinstated 5 beads Effx after 4 mths misery.Pooped out 10 days.

9-12-16-to present- Wide eyed terror, bedridden fear, no appetite/feeling of being full.

10-30-16- Began 15% liquid tapering of 30 mg Vyvanse. (25 mg)

11-13-16- Liquid Vyvanse 22 mg,11-27-16- Liquid 15 mg, 12-12-16- Vyvanse 12.5 for 5 days. 12-16 - 12-29, 15 mg.

11-20-16- Switched back to 1.0 clonazepam am & .5 bedtime

12-30-16- Moved to 15 mg COMPOUNDED Vyvanse.Current 4/11-4/25 7.5 mg.(10% ev 2 wks) Off Vyvanse

Current meds:Effexor XR- 3 Beads, Clonazepam-1.0 mg am, .5 mg bedtime,Vyvanse-(tapering) Estradiol- 2

mg,Progesterone 200 mg,Testosterone 30 mg/ml,Nature Throid- 48.75 mg.(12-21-16-65 mg.) (4-18-17-81.25 mg) Current supplements: Fish Oil-1360 mg, Curamin- 2706 mg.

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Hey Sheri - how many beads did you land on?  How much Vyvanse are you on now?  Is it gone?

Can you please update your signature?

OKAY I looked at Shoemaker - I have a friend doing Shoemaker, and my osteopath is educated in Shoemaker stuff.  I might actually be a candidate for MARCONS testing - but - here's the thing Sheri - 

 

I'm 18 months off my last drug - you still have several drugs to go.  I'm in pretty good condition for detoxing.  The Shoemaker protocol is a detox, and you are not up for it.  You've probably got stuff dying off and flushing through your system so fast - and your system is in pretty severe dysregulation to begin with.  

So - you either continue with the protocol, understanding it will take longer (and harder) to get on your feet again - but when you do, you will be "clear" and hopefully healthier.

 

Or you discontinue most of the protocol, maybe keeping the nasal spray (glad your house is free of mold) and hope that the symptoms settle fairly soon.

 

Or you discontinue all of it, and hope that you haven't upset your system for another loop-de-loop.  

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1963-liver-cleansing-enemas-fasting-and-other-purification-methods/

 

Let me know when you've updated your signature and I'll look in again.

 

I'm sorry you are still struggling.

 

I hope you see the sun today.

 

"Easy, easy - just go easy and you'll finish." - Hawaiian Kapuna

 

Holding is hard work, holding is a blessing. Give your brain time to heal before you try again.

 

My suggestions are not medical advice, you are in charge of your own medical choices.

 

A lifetime of being prescribed antidepressants that caused problems (30 years in total). At age 35 flipped to "bipolar," but was not diagnosed for 5 years. Started my journey in Midwest United States. Crossed the Pacific for love and hope; currently living in Australia.   CT Seroquel 25 mg some time in 2013.   Tapered Reboxetine 4 mg Oct 2013 to Sept 2014 = GONE (3 years on Reboxetine).     Tapered Lithium 900 to 475 MG (alternating with the SNRI) Jan 2014 - Nov 2014, tapered Lithium 475 mg Jan 2015 -  Feb 2016 = GONE (10 years  on Lithium).  Many mistakes in dry cutting dosages were made.


The tedious thread (my intro):  JanCarol ☼ Reboxetine first, then Lithium

The happy thread (my success story):  JanCarol - Undiagnosed  Off all bipolar drugs

My own blog:  https://shamanexplorations.com/shamans-blog/

 

 

I have been psych drug FREE since 1 Feb 2016!

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Hey Sheri - 

 

How you going?

 

How much Effexor, how much Vyvanse?

What did you decide to do about the detox protocol?  How are your sinuses?

 

I hope you see the sun today!

"Easy, easy - just go easy and you'll finish." - Hawaiian Kapuna

 

Holding is hard work, holding is a blessing. Give your brain time to heal before you try again.

 

My suggestions are not medical advice, you are in charge of your own medical choices.

 

A lifetime of being prescribed antidepressants that caused problems (30 years in total). At age 35 flipped to "bipolar," but was not diagnosed for 5 years. Started my journey in Midwest United States. Crossed the Pacific for love and hope; currently living in Australia.   CT Seroquel 25 mg some time in 2013.   Tapered Reboxetine 4 mg Oct 2013 to Sept 2014 = GONE (3 years on Reboxetine).     Tapered Lithium 900 to 475 MG (alternating with the SNRI) Jan 2014 - Nov 2014, tapered Lithium 475 mg Jan 2015 -  Feb 2016 = GONE (10 years  on Lithium).  Many mistakes in dry cutting dosages were made.


The tedious thread (my intro):  JanCarol ☼ Reboxetine first, then Lithium

The happy thread (my success story):  JanCarol - Undiagnosed  Off all bipolar drugs

My own blog:  https://shamanexplorations.com/shamans-blog/

 

 

I have been psych drug FREE since 1 Feb 2016!

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Hi Jan,  I’m still so unwell. Bedridden.  I finished the Vyvanse taper and am down to 3 beads of Effexor. 

 

Im sorry that I don’t remember a detox protocol. :(

 

I barely made it through having a root canal tooth pulled a couple of weeks ago. He thinks the infected root may be a contributor to the MARCONS/biofilm. The new sinus swab test showed different bacteria and now a fungus so on different nasal antibiotics. 

I’m having so much fear still. Someone said (FB admin) I will feel better if I get off the bio identical hormones and then the clonazepam. I’m not sure I’d survive that and don’t know what to do. 

 

Thank you for checking on me. ❤️

Effexor XR 300 (brand) mg & various SSRIs 15 yrs (Effexor XR 300 mg past 10 yrs

Clonazepam, 1.0 mg. am, .5 mg pm. - 15 yrs, 7-17-16- Began .5 three times a day

Vyvanse 60 mg, - 2 yrs, Cut to 50 mg for 6 mths, Cut to 30 mg. on 4-1-16. Tapering.

Approx. 4-1-15 began Effexor XR 300 taper, very slowly for a year. Held at 37.5 for about 3 mths. Cut to 18 mg for 2 wks to 0. WD began 2 wks later. Depression, anxiety, paranoia, low appetite, nausea.

7-14-16-Reinstated 5 beads Effx after 4 mths misery.Pooped out 10 days.

9-12-16-to present- Wide eyed terror, bedridden fear, no appetite/feeling of being full.

10-30-16- Began 15% liquid tapering of 30 mg Vyvanse. (25 mg)

11-13-16- Liquid Vyvanse 22 mg,11-27-16- Liquid 15 mg, 12-12-16- Vyvanse 12.5 for 5 days. 12-16 - 12-29, 15 mg.

11-20-16- Switched back to 1.0 clonazepam am & .5 bedtime

12-30-16- Moved to 15 mg COMPOUNDED Vyvanse.Current 4/11-4/25 7.5 mg.(10% ev 2 wks) Off Vyvanse

Current meds:Effexor XR- 3 Beads, Clonazepam-1.0 mg am, .5 mg bedtime,Vyvanse-(tapering) Estradiol- 2

mg,Progesterone 200 mg,Testosterone 30 mg/ml,Nature Throid- 48.75 mg.(12-21-16-65 mg.) (4-18-17-81.25 mg) Current supplements: Fish Oil-1360 mg, Curamin- 2706 mg.

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Hi Sheri, 

 

good to hear from you, though I'm sorry to hear you're still struggling.

 

Your bacteria and fungus protocols are detox protocols.  Is this being done by a Shoemaker practitioner - or is it a regular doctor?

I'll tell you a story about a friend of mine who has gone through the mycotoxin business - and has a mouth full of mercury amalgams.  She's done the infrared sauna ($$,$$$), she's had her house tested for $$$$, and the treating of her mycotoxins is - too much.  She has opted to delay this detox until she is well enough to handle it.  She would like to remove the mercury amalgams, but feels she is not well enough for that detox, either.  She is a medical professional, and is not convinced of the science of mycotoxins.  She tells me that all of the studies are done by people who have financial interest in getting people to believe they are real and dangerous.  Yes, there are people who get sick from reactions to certain types of mould, but is it really as common as that?  She noted to me that the functional practitioners - while they are exploring things that regular doctors do not - go in fashion and phases.  First it was methylation, then it was Lyme protocols, then it was some sort of IV healing protocol, now it is this mycotoxin thing - and - she is too tired to go through another protocol.  


You may not be well enough to go through this series of protocols, even if the mycotoxin, fungus, mould, bacteria are real.  We live with bacteria all the time, and the Australian protocol balances bacteria with dietary intervention.  Another one just talks about 15 minutes of sunshine per day for your bacteria to balance.  How much of your sickness comes from being inside all of the time?

 

Are you still tapering Vyvanse?  Are you almost free of that one?  What is your status with that?

 

Are you still losing weight?  How is your sleep?

 

I have mixed emotions about the bio-identical hormones (i'm not well versed enough to express opinions, only emotions!).  My orthomolecular doc loves them, and I have other friends who swear that they need them - but - I would think at some point, it is more natural not to have them.  I know Kelly Brogan is more about diet and lifestyle to adjust hormones than actual hormones - and she's a women's doc gyne psychi specialist.

But yea, the clonazepam.  After the Vyvanse is gone, maybe that's next.  You're on a fairly strong dose of that - and it may have pooped out on you, causing rebound anxiety all over the place.


I also wonder how you are doing with challenging your anxiety?  You can live through anxiety, anxiety won't kill you.  But confining yourself to your room is not helping much.  If it is anxiety which keeps you there - you may want to start challenging your anxiety, to find out that - outside won't kill you.  You can live through a panic attack.  You can live through a conversation with a neighbor or a visit to church.  The more you challenge yourself, the easier it will become.

take care, and I hope you see the sun today!

"Easy, easy - just go easy and you'll finish." - Hawaiian Kapuna

 

Holding is hard work, holding is a blessing. Give your brain time to heal before you try again.

 

My suggestions are not medical advice, you are in charge of your own medical choices.

 

A lifetime of being prescribed antidepressants that caused problems (30 years in total). At age 35 flipped to "bipolar," but was not diagnosed for 5 years. Started my journey in Midwest United States. Crossed the Pacific for love and hope; currently living in Australia.   CT Seroquel 25 mg some time in 2013.   Tapered Reboxetine 4 mg Oct 2013 to Sept 2014 = GONE (3 years on Reboxetine).     Tapered Lithium 900 to 475 MG (alternating with the SNRI) Jan 2014 - Nov 2014, tapered Lithium 475 mg Jan 2015 -  Feb 2016 = GONE (10 years  on Lithium).  Many mistakes in dry cutting dosages were made.


The tedious thread (my intro):  JanCarol ☼ Reboxetine first, then Lithium

The happy thread (my success story):  JanCarol - Undiagnosed  Off all bipolar drugs

My own blog:  https://shamanexplorations.com/shamans-blog/

 

 

I have been psych drug FREE since 1 Feb 2016!

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