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Hi Happy2Heal and direstraits:

 

Thanks for stopping by. It means a lot.

 

YAY! No nausea, but I feel really jittery right now.

 

Apace41 told me I was lucky I wasn't getting all the WD, but I wonder since I'm by myself today, and jittery, it's WD. I don't know.

 

Happy, I hope you are doing better. You deserve a HUGE nights sleep. :)

 

DS just the bottom of my feet burn. But they don't feel hot to the touch. Are yours like that? What do you do for it?

 

I'm just sooooo tired. Only one more weekend and I can veg out for a couple weeks, then I think I'll have my granddaughter again :)

 

Both of you take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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yeah,mine don't feel hot to the touch either.....I usually just wait for it to pass but I guess you could soak them in a bucket of cool water?

 

ds  xx

went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct  back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs.

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Frogie,

 

Burning or tingling feet is another fairly common CNS WD symptom.

 

Not sure what's triggered that for you, but I am sure it will go as quickly as it came on.

 

New symptoms are no less alarming though.

 

TC,

JC xxx

 

 

Dose History: 19 Feb 2014 - Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms faded. Held at this dose and experienced "windows and waves". 12 Oct 2017 Reduced dose to 1.25mg. 13 Mar 2018 Reduced dose to 0.625mg (approx.). 16 April 2018 0mg. Windows and waves triggered by stress (IBS/reflux, headaches, sinus issues) Aug 2019 Mirena coil fitted 6 Jan 2020 MAJOR Wave hit 19 months following last dose (protracted WD).  Symptoms listed below Mar 2020 Mirena coil removal.

Therapy: Nov 15th 2016 Re-started therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT Dec 2017 Started listening to Hypnotherapy CD (self-esteem). Nov 2019 Started couples therapy.

Supplements: "Bioglan" Biotic Balance Ultimate Flora 10 billion CFU, live Bacteria, Probiotic, suitable for Vegetarians, with Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Lactobacillus Rhamnosus, Bifidobacterium Longum"Pukka" Vitalise a unique blend of 30 energising botanicals.

Diet: 16 April 2018 Detox cleanse / anti-candida for 90 days. Jan 2020 Started "small plate" diet (i.e child size portions).

Exercise: Stretching, Yoga, Pilates, Spinning, Elliptical/upper body workout, walking.

Medical Test Results: 4 Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 24 Feb 2017 Started weight loss program 24 Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment + anti-Candida diet started due to suspected Candida Related Complex (CRC). DETOXED for 7 weeks to "re-set" gut. April 2017 "Genova Diagnostics" Comprehensive Stool Analysis NEGATIVE; Full Blood Count (Normal) / Blood Cholesterol: 5.6 (Borderline) / Blood Sugar (Normal) / 28 Jun 2017 FSH 8.2 / 14 Nov 2017 FSH 17.7 Dec 2017 Blood Cholesterol: 3.9 (Normal) / Kidney Function (Normal) / Blood Sugar (Normal). December 2017 "Genova Diagnostics" Food panel allergy (bloodwork) analysis - a few "VERY LOW/VL" allergens; Mar 2018 "Genova Diagnostics" SIBO urine analysis: High Level of Yeast/fungal markers found in small intestine but NO SIBO.  April 2018 Thyroid (Normal) / Full Blood Count (Normal) / FSH (Normal). 16 April 2018 Started anti-Candida diet - 3 month protocol.   25 March 2020 All test results "Normal". CRP" 5 mg/L (normal range to 0-5 mg/L).

Symptoms:  Flu-like symptoms, anxiety, anhedonia, sinus headaches right-side (severe), IBS issues/reflux (severe)**, tinnitus, fatigue, inner tremor, nausea, chills/hot flushes, pounding heart, muscular issues including stiff left hip flexor, intense anger, PSSD (ongoing).  **Histhamine intolerance (suspected).

Major Life Events: 

Re-located to UK from Canada: Jan 2016

My father died: 5:05pm, Monday 5 Feb 2018 Last Lexapro dose: 16 April 2018 (its now been over a year since I quit ADs)  Moved house: Friday 23rd February 2018  "Divorced" toxic Mother: Monday 26 March 2018 Starting working again: 19 November 2018  Diagnosed with: 5th August 2021 PTSD/C-PTSD Diagnosed with: March 2022 Interstitial Cystitis (IC)/Painful bladder syndrome

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3 minutes ago, direstraits said:

yeah,mine don't feel hot to the touch either.....I usually just wait for it to pass but I guess you could soak them in a bucket of cool water?

 

ds  xx

Yesterday I sprayed them with Athletes spray and it cooled them off. I don't know if you're supposed to do that but I did.

Did you ever feel jittery? It only lasted maybe 20 minutes. Maybe it's because I'm staying below 10mg (finally), I'm getting a few WD symptoms. They aren't bad, just new to me. I was hoping to get away without WD symptoms, but afraid not.

 

Like I said I'm just worn out. My life is usually so boring. I live in a town of 600 people. There's a very small grocery store, Ace hardware, gas station with convenience store and that's it. I have to drive 16 miles to go to therapy, Safeway, 2 dollar stores, and a Shopko ( a mini mini mini Walmart) and a few fast food places. I only have 1 friend, very clickish town. 

 

Today, I feel like I might cry. I haven't done that in I don't know how long. 

 

Do do you ever feel like any of this? I'm sorry for pouring all this on you. You don't deserve it at all. Please accept my apologies.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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12 minutes ago, Junglechicken said:

Frogie,

 

Burning or tingling feet is another fairly common CNS WD symptom.

 

Not sure what's triggered that for you, but I am sure it will go as quickly as it came on.

 

New symptoms are no less alarming though.

 

TC,

JC xxx

 

 

Who knows what triggered it. It could have been on my feet a lot lately and not wearing my shoes with my orthotics.

 

I don't know, but I've got them up today, doing as little as possible lol...

 

Thanks for helping me. You always have the right words to say. I appreciate it. :)

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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no need to apologize,we're here to help one another...I get jittery too at times,sometimes it's an internal distress.hard to describe but an awful feeling...wonder if it's akathisia?

 

if you feel like crying,go ahead,it may make you feel better to let it out...I cry a lot over everything!

 

hang in there,you're doing fine.

ds xx

went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct  back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs.

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Just now, direstraits said:

no need to apologize,we're here to help one another...I get jittery too at times,sometimes it's an internal distress.hard to describe but an awful feeling...wonder if it's akathisia?

 

if you feel like crying,go ahead,it may make you feel better to let it out...I cry a lot over everything!

 

hang in there,you're doing fine.

ds xx

Thanks for listening to me. I really appreciate it.

 

I think I'm wheapy because everything has been going on, and all of a sudden today, I'm alone and everything has stopped.

 

Ill be glad when this weekend is over, then my life will go back to "normal".

 

Thanks again, we are here to help each other. You have no idea how much you have helped me, answering my questions and just listening.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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aw,glad to be of help to you....sometimes it's hard to be alone with our thoughts; if you can find something to distract you maybe that will help?

 

take care...ds

 

xx

went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct  back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs.

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Just now, direstraits said:

aw,glad to be of help to you....sometimes it's hard to be alone with our thoughts; if you can find something to distract you maybe that will help?

 

take care...ds

 

xx

I have my 15 year old chihuahua right next to me. My fiancé says the umbilical cord isn't long enough between her and I and I'm watching tv. I don't even want to go outside today, going to be 99, yuck!

 

Thanks for all your help, you have no idea how much I appreciate it.

 

Have a great day. :)

 

I'm having a good cry right now, but I'll be fine.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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pets can be so comforting...I have 2 kitties and they give me so much joy.

 

wow,99...that's awful...we're only 70's today but dreary,that's OK.I'll take it!

 

take care...ds  xx

went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct  back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs.

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12 minutes ago, direstraits said:

pets can be so comforting...I have 2 kitties and they give me so much joy.

 

wow,99...that's awful...we're only 70's today but dreary,that's OK.I'll take it!

 

take care...ds  xx

I don't know what I would do without her. She is my little love. But getting old.

 

I would take the 70's, it's going to be in the 90's all next week too.

 

Again, thanks for talking with me. It's really helped. Tears are rolling down my face, but I guess that's good. :)

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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Hi Frogie

 

I have started to follow you, I follow Flowers too and she follows me.  I think you are so brave trying to get below 10 mg.  I am currently on 18 mg citalopram which I think is similar to your drug.

 

I know what you mean about living in a small town, I live in a very rural area, it can get a bit much especially if you don't have that many friends in it.

 

I think you are doing really well, if I had got down to your dose, I would be so proud of myself. 

 

It is difficult when we feel upset and tearful but this is bound to be the case as we are altering so much.  It is a brave route we have taken.  Not for the weak.

 

Joy

 

Jan 2023 to July 2023 250mg quetiapine

Tapered off quetiapine again over 2 months - now weight problem

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1 minute ago, joy2730 said:

Hi Frogie

 

I have started to follow you, I follow Flowers too and she follows me.  I think you are so brave trying to get below 10 mg.  I am currently on 18 mg citalopram which I think is similar to your drug.

 

I know what you mean about living in a small town, I live in a very rural area, it can get a bit much especially if you don't have that many friends in it.

 

I think you are doing really well, if I had got down to your dose, I would be so proud of myself. 

 

It is difficult when we feel upset and tearful but this is bound to be the case as we are altering so much.  It is a brave route we have taken.  Not for the weak.

 

Joy

Hi Joy:

 

I have been reading your thread also because I follow Flowers. I hope you don't mind.

 

Do you know how I got below 10? June 16, 2016, I decided I didn't want to take this med anymore so I cut it 1/2. What a HUGE mistake. I was sick for almost 9 months. Finally by Christmas, I was feeling better. 

 

If if it wasn't for the mods on here, I don't know what I would have done. I was lucky I found this site.

 

I was going to try your method. Dropping a drop, but saw you had problems, so decided to do Brassmonkey's taper. It's been working so far (knock on wood). I just put the whole drop in dosage in my signature because I'm not good at keeping it up to date.

 

I was born and raised in a pretty big city, over 80,000 people. Then 4 years ago, the company my fiancé worked for went into bankruptcy, so we had to move. Now I live in a town of 600 very clickish people. We have a small grocery store, hardware store, and a gas station with a convenient store. I drive 16 miles to therapy, a very very very small Walmart type store, a little bigger grocery store (no deli or bakery) and 2 dollar stores. I used to be 20 minutes away from my granddaughter, now I'm 2 1/2 hours away. I think that's the hardest.

 

As you've read everything has happened to me since Memorial weekend. Now everything has come to a hault and no one is around to talk to. I think that's why today I'm having such a hard time. Tears are rolling down my face. 

 

My my fiancé is great. He called me just to see if I was doing ok. I told him I can't stop crying. He said its just withdrawl, put your feet up, cuddle with Brownie (my 15 year old chihuahua) and relax. I wouldn't know what to do without him.

 

All I can say is you are doing wonderful in tapering too. Just take it really slow and you will do it. You sound like you have a good life. 

 

I just miss my family. Because of some family problems, I haven't talked to my youngest son in 8 years. We used to be inseparable. I hope someday I'll get to talk to him again. But that's another HUGE story.

 

You are taking the sister drug of what I'm on, Lexapro. 

 

I have probably bored you. But thanks for stopping by. Maybe we can help each other. That would be great. :)

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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Hi Frogie

 

Sorry these new symptoms are turning up. Don't worry though you are doing fine and will get through it.

 

You may be just a bit tired like you say and have been doing too much. 

 

I get jittery too  somedays, other days it is nausea, another day it is something else! I haven't had the burning feet yet but I no doubt will sometime!

 

Take care of yourself.

 

Love from Flowers xxx

 

 

15 yrs on 20 to 30 mgs CITALOPRAM.  MAY 2014 Increased to 40 mgs per day.SEPT/NOV 2014 tapered in 6 weeks down to 10 mgs as per Dr instructions due to violent nightmares/palpitations.Given Noctamid (lormetazepam) to help with anxiety. On average took 2mg per day for 8 weeks.No taper was advised.DEC 2014 WD severe. Nervous tic in eyes and limbs, muscle pain,fluct  temp, weakness, dep and anxiety, nausea, giddy, unstable when walking. Different Dr suggested taking 20mgs CIT. BROMAZEPAM 3mgs up to 3 x daily for anxiety.DEC 9 2014 Updose CIT to 30mgs. Only taking BROMAZEPAM in emergency.DEC 31 2014 Settling at 30mg CIT - helping with depression. No Brom for 2wks.Found SA.APR 2015 Trying to stabilise on 30mgs CIT.  JAN 2016 Started Cit Taper reducing by 5% per month.  28.5 mgs 
FEB  Taper held bereavement. APR Taper resumed 27mgs . MAY 25.50 mgs .  JUNE 24 mgs .  JULY I stupidly mixed up my BP meds with CIT. Consequently took no CIT for 3 days and doubled my BP meds. Waiting for the fallout....Holding for a while until any chance of repercussions have abated. SEPT taper resumed to  22.5 mgs . OCT 21 mgs .NOV 19.95 mgs DEC crashed. 2017: FEB 3rd updose to 20.5 mgs to try to stabilise.FEB.switched over to 75mgs of Venlafaxine XR for 3 weeks.Too stimulating so switching back to Cit. 12 March 37.5 Ven and 20 Cit. 21 March 18mg Ven 20mg Cit. 4 April 9mg Ven 20mg Cit. Xanax .50mg when needed.  13 April 0 mgs Ven, 20mg Citalopram. Xanax .50 mg per day. 5 May reinstated a small amount of Ven to stabilize  1 mg twice a day. 20 mg Citalopram at night. Xanax .25 mg twice per day.Other Meds: Losartan (BP)Started 1993 at  50 mgs at night.  Seretide (Asthma) Started 1996 at 1 puff twice a day. Jan 2019 Antibiotic Ceclor 500mgs twice a day for bronchitis and  Atrovent 2ml capsules twice a day for asthma. Finished the course of both Jan 17. 

XANAX  Jan 27  - Feb 3 2019 Failed Valium Crossover.   Feb 14 2019  Updosed Xanax by .0625  Feb 17 2019 Decreased Xanax by .0625. Back to .50mg daily.  Update Xanax 28.2.20 tapered to .1250 mg 8am .25 mg midnight. Update Xanax 11.8.21 tapered to .25 mg at night. 

Current Meds 28.2.19: CITALOPRAM  20mg  taken at midnight. VENLAFAXINE  .9 mg twice a day at 8am and 10pm.  XANAX .50 mg split into 4 doses per day. 10am .0625mg / 2pm .1250mg/ 6pm .0625mg / midnight .25mg.Update 10.8.22 .25 mg at night.  LOSARTAN 50 mgs taken at midnight.  SERETIDE 1 puff taken at 8am and 10pm.   7.7.19 VENLAFAXINE UPDATE: Started tapering 10% every 4 weeks. Currently .4 mg twice a day at 8am and 10 pm.  2.9.19 .36 mg x 2. 1.10.19  .32 mg x 2. 26.11.19 .29 mg x2. 26.12.19 .26 mg  x 2. 23.1.20  .23 mg x 2.  20.2.20 .21 mg x2.20.3.20  .19 mg x 2. 21.4.20 .17 mg x 2. 19.5.20 .13 mg x 2.  18.6.20 .11mg  x 2 .18.7.20.10 mg x 2.1.9.20.09 mg x 2. 30.9. 20 .08 mg x 2. 1.11.20 .07 mg x 2.  2.12.20 .06 mg x 2.  8.1.21 .05 mg x 2.  4.2.21 .04 mg x 2. 9.3.21 .03 mgx2.  7.4.21  .02 mg x 2.  9.5.21 .01 mg x 2.  21.6.21 .01 mg x 1.  11.8.21 ZERO!

 

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1 minute ago, Flowers said:

Hi Frogie

 

Sorry these new symptoms are turning up. Don't worry though you are doing fine and will get through it.

 

You may be just a bit tired like you say and have been doing too much. 

 

I get jittery too  somedays, other days it is nausea, another day it is something else! I haven't had the burning feet yet but I no doubt will sometime!

 

Take care of yourself.

 

Love from Flowers xxx

 

 

Hi Flowers:

 

I think you are right, everything has just caught up with me.

 

I've never felt jittery, it was almost like "fight or flight" mode, but not that bad. 

 

I just can't stop crying today. I'm all alone, and was looking forward to it, but I guess I really wasn't.

 

The burning feet are really annoying. It feels like I'm walking on a hot sidewalk without shoes. But they aren't swollen or hot to the touch.

 

It's 99 here today, so I have the ac going and not going anywhere. It's supposed to be in the 90's next week too.

 

Thanks for stopping by. It means a lot.

 

Hope you are doing well today. :)

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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Hi Frogie

 

I am so glad you are reading my thread, and I am sure we can help each other.  It might seem like I have a good life, and I do now, but have a terrible past and my problems have left me unable to communicate with my son, who still lived with us until a few weeks ago, he is now living with his girlfriend a few miles away.  I hope one day to resolve that somehow but haven't the energy or time for it at present.

I have had decades of bad life.

 

My daughter and grand daughter are my main people, and things are healing a bit with my husband, but I do enjoy my life now.

 

That is so hard that you are now so far away from your grandchild.  I couldn't bear that.  I work away from home as a live in carer 4 nights a week and my daughter brings my granddaughter to see me at work as I miss her and can't wait to see her.  That is bound to make everything worse.  If my daughter and son-in-law and granddaughter moved away, I would ask if I could follow them!

 

It is good that you have a good relationship with your fiancée, that is something.  For a long time I lived with my husband being quite nasty and I don't tell him about trying to reduce the dosage as he really doesn't 'get it' or 'get why'.

 

Reading others stories on this site is really helping me.  I always thought there was no problem in getting off these drugs, it was quite a shock to discover otherwise.  My reason for trying to get off them is simple really, every psychiatric drug I have ever given up has made me realise they were making me worse rather than better and so I am assuming that is the same with citalopram.  I may be right, or I may be wrong, but I need to find out.

 

Is there any chance you could move back to being nearer your grandchild, but I recognise work is important too.  But I think I would take any job to be nearer to someone I loved dearly.  I guess you feel torn between your love for your finance and your love for your grandchild, and want both.  A tug of love and conflict like that easily leads to upset feelings, rotten isn't?

 

Take care Frogie, unfortunately we all have to deal with some difficulties, but some are more difficult than others.  A grandchild is a very special window into your family and your heart.  You are brave giving withdrawal a go, hopefully the tears will resolve soon.  How long have you been in this new town? 

 

Joy

 

Jan 2023 to July 2023 250mg quetiapine

Tapered off quetiapine again over 2 months - now weight problem

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Hi Joy:

 

You sound like me with your son. You want a relationship, but just don't have the energy. I've written to him, but he has me blocked on his phone and Facebook. Maybe someday he will come around, I hope so.

 

My fiancé said if he could find a job like what he has here, he is a mater electrician, we could move in the next year or year and 1/2. July 15th he will be there 4 years. He has to be there 5 years to get his retirement from them. I can wait another year. He said we would buy a house probably between where we used to live and my granddaughter. I can handle that. We will keep the property we live in and the rental house we own, so that will help with the mortgage.

 

I'm on disability, from a fall I took through some concrete stairs. I don't make enough money to live on my own. Rent is really expensive where my granddaughter, oldest son and daughter in law live. They actually live in her parents basement because they can't afford rent. It's just really hard knowing her parents and my ex get to see my granddaughter all the time. I've seen her for 3 days this year. She will be 10 in August. We skype when we can which helps.

 

I never thought there was a problem getting off these meds either. I've changed meds a few times and never had withdrawl symptoms. My ex husband was on them a short while and just quit without any problems. It's not fair that we have to suffer.

 

I would love to make the Drs take these meds and then tell them they can't have them anymore and sit and watch them suffer like us. But they believe the pharmaceutical companies and the people that hand them samples. That they are safe. They are anything but safe. I just hope I don't have withdrawl symptoms for years after stopping. I've read people go years with symptoms.

 

I'm not as brave as you think I am. I'm just really good at hiding it. You are very brave going off of this poison also.

 

We can help each other, just moral support. That's what I need. I'm sure you do too.

 

We will all be fine. I have faith.

 

I'm going to sit here and cry and pet my chihuahua.

 

Have a great day. :)

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

 

 

 

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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So there is hope for you Frogie re your grandchild.  Moral support is good.  Skype is good, but your ex seeing her more than you must really hurt.

 

Hope tomorrow is a bit better for you, I bet this separation from your granddaughter is really making things much worse for you, and the separation from your son.

 

Joy

 

Jan 2023 to July 2023 250mg quetiapine

Tapered off quetiapine again over 2 months - now weight problem

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3 minutes ago, joy2730 said:

So there is hope for you Frogie re your grandchild.  Moral support is good.  Skype is good, but your ex seeing her more than you must really hurt.

 

Hope tomorrow is a bit better for you, I bet this separation from your granddaughter is really making things much worse for you, and the separation from your son.

 

Joy

All of this is really hurting. Maybe someday it will all be over. I feel like we kinda have a similar life.

 

We can both use support. That would be great. :)

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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Hi Frogie

 

Is your grandchild your son's child?  If that is the case that is very hard.  My grandchild Esme is my daughter's child and I get on really well with my daughter and son-in-law.

 

My son, Ben, has already said he doesn't want me to have anything to do with any children we might have, he considers me 'unfit' because he has seen me mentally ill and in a bad way, but some of that bad way I am beginning to think was many med changes that didn't suit me at all.  My daughter witnessed my same symptoms as my son but she has coped better and come to terms with it more easily.  I suspect my son suffered emotionally, but the past is the past and I can't rewrite it.  I also really suffered, no one has any idea how much.

 

My son Ben won't speak to me on the phone, even if it is about farm business and won't connect on Facebook with me, but his girlfriend, Vicky, is a bit better with me.  I spoke to my GP about this and she said in the future with maturity he may forgive.

 

If your son is your grandchild's father, you will have to somehow really work on that relationship.  I would be interested to know.

 

Emotional pain is awful, some people take SSRIs to dull emotional pain, do you feel more emotional pain now you are down to a low dose, less blunting of the pain?

 

Joy

 

Jan 2023 to July 2023 250mg quetiapine

Tapered off quetiapine again over 2 months - now weight problem

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Hi Joy:

 

I'm lucky that my granddaughter is my oldest sons and daughter in laws daughter. They have seen me at my worst too, but don't hold my granddaughter against me. My daughter in law works for a dr, so I think she knows all about it.

 

My youngest son and his partner (he's gay) are the ones that haven't had anything to do with me for 8 years. Maybe your GP is right, it's maturity. He is going to be 27.

 

I feel a lot of emotions now that I'm at a lower dose. Like I said yesterday, I sat and cried a lot. But life goes on and I'm sure it will get better as time passes and my body adjusts to not having the "happy pills".

 

It sounds like you are doing really well. That is great. :)

 

Hope to hear from you soon, it's always nice to hear from you.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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Ben is 28 years old, they have a lot to learn about life, yet they think they know everything.  Being gay shouldn't complicate the picture really, but who knows.

 

Ben seems to have mellowed a little in the few weeks he has been living away from home, he might realise now what I have done for him over the years, even if it was (in his opinion) only paying for the food he ate.  I think he thinks I didn't do enough when he was growing up, I would have done more if I could have, but I was too sedated.  I wish I had got rid of my drugs many years ago.  However, I always worked at something part time and did what I could. 

 

My husband says Ben is stressed a lot with his work, sometimes I wish he could feel very stressed and depressed as it would develop his empathy, but I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

 

Joy

 

Jan 2023 to July 2023 250mg quetiapine

Tapered off quetiapine again over 2 months - now weight problem

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Ben is 28 years old, they have a lot to learn about life, yet they think they know everything.  Being gay shouldn't complicate the picture really, but who knows.

 

Ben seems to have mellowed a little in the few weeks he has been living away from home, he might realise now what I have done for him over the years, even if it was (in his opinion) only paying for the food he ate.  I think he thinks I didn't do enough when he was growing up, I would have done more if I could have, but I was too sedated.  I wish I had got rid of my drugs many years ago.  However, I always worked at something part time and did what I could. 

 

My husband says Ben is stressed a lot with his work, sometimes I wish he could feel very stressed and depressed as it would develop his empathy, but I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

 

Joy

So they are about the same age. Even being on all the meds I was on, I worked a full time job and 2 part time jobs, so he could have everything he wanted and needed. I was always there for him. I was a single mom for 11 years until I met my fiancé.

 

He is just breaking my heart everyday that I still don't hear from him. But I have to put it to rest.

 

I hope that your son comes back to you soon. It sounds like he will. You are very lucky.

 

Maybe someday I'll see my son again.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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Do you have a postal address for him, does your ex husband see him, if I was you I would just send him a card saying 'Thinking of You' or ask your ex husband to give him a message that you think of him often.  Are you in contact with your ex husband?  Do you have other relatives that are in contact with your son.

 

It is important to maintain some level of contact, even just a card is a start, it might make you feel a bit better too.  There will come a time when he wants to make contact and keeping in any sort of touch will make that easier.  Do you send him birthday cards.

No matter what has gone on he is your son and you are his mother - that is very special.

Are you in contact with his partner? If so you could send a card to him?

 

Your son may be hurting about the rift.  Have you accepted his sexuality or is that an ongoing problem?  I know it must be difficult to accept but it can be done, especially with time.

 

A lot of people think my son Ben is gay and that he is living a lie by being with Vicky and now living with her, but I am not sure.

 

You don't have to answer any of my questions, it is just that I am trying to get a picture of what is causing you the trouble.  Also there is usually some way forward.

I said to Ben the other day at our farm, 'I know we don't get on but I would still like to visit you at home to see where you are living on Tuesday night' - he replied 'We will be out' but at least he replied as usually he doesn't even speak to me.

All I am saying is that any contact is good, I was pleased he spoke to me.

 

Joy

 

Jan 2023 to July 2023 250mg quetiapine

Tapered off quetiapine again over 2 months - now weight problem

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I don't know what's wrong with me, but the last couple of days I haven't had much of an appetite, but I've been eating normally.

 

I have been drinking a lot of water because it's so hot.

 

The bottom of my feet have been burning like I'm walking on a hot sidewalk. I know that's a withdrawal, direstraits and apace41 has explained that to me.

 

I have lost 5 pounds in a week.

 

I've also been tapering a small amount.

 

Is it normal to lose weight through this?

 

I know I'm being a worry wart about things, but just had those questions.

 

Thanks for whoever answers me. :)

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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This is withdrawal. I'm sorry. Sink your feet into some ice.

Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014

 

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This is withdrawal. I'm sorry. Sink your feet into some ice.

Thanks Ali.

Is it normal to lose 5 pounds in a week?

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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boy,I wish I could lose 5 lbs. in aweek; I've been gaining weight lately <_<. especially my stomach...they say too much cortisol can cause that or is it being post-menopausal...either way it sucks..I was thin all my life til getting on these stupid drugs. I wonder if they've permanently messed up my metabolism.

 

I'm sorry to rant on your thread.

 

hope you can get relief from the burning feet..is that the only place that burns?

ds  xx

 

 

went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct  back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs.

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boy,I wish I could lose 5 lbs. in aweek; I've been gaining weight lately <_<. especially my stomach...they say too much cortisol can cause that or is it being post-menopausal...either way it sucks..I was thin all my life til getting on these stupid drugs. I wonder if they've permanently messed up my metabolism.

 

I'm sorry to rant on your thread.

 

hope you can get relief from the burning feet..is that the only place that burns?

ds  xx

 

 

I've gained 50 pounds all together since being on this poison for 20 years. I was always really slim too. Whenever something happens, I tend to freak out. I think I'll just stop getting on the scale. Lol... I've been drinking a lot if water. Maybe it's water weight I've lost.

 

I had a hysterectomy in 1996, so I don't think I'll go through menopause again. 

 

Ive actually had people ask me when I'm due. That's how far my stomach sticks out!

 

This whole thing s**ks (not supposed to cuss on the forum).

 

I think with exercise we can lose the weight, but I don't feel like exercising. It's called lazy.

 

That's the only place I burn is the bottom of my feet. I've been putting athletes spray on them to cool them off.

 

You can rant on my thread anytime. You are a HUGE help to me. I sat and cried yesterday and on the verge of it today.

 

Take care. :)

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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Well done Frogie on the weight loss, that's really excellent :)

 

The first few Ibs are likely to be water, and then as your metabolism changes, you'll start losing fat.

 

My weight has increased :huh: it increased by 6Ibs before my last TOTM was due.....said TOTM didn't show up until 2 weeks later, and its never gone back down.  That is water retention, but I seem to be stuck with it.   I eat a squeaky clean diet too.

 

Must be peri-meno rubbish, but hope my naturopath can make some suggestions.

 

Keep up the great work, it will improve your mood (as I've found).

 

TC,

JC xxx

Dose History: 19 Feb 2014 - Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms faded. Held at this dose and experienced "windows and waves". 12 Oct 2017 Reduced dose to 1.25mg. 13 Mar 2018 Reduced dose to 0.625mg (approx.). 16 April 2018 0mg. Windows and waves triggered by stress (IBS/reflux, headaches, sinus issues) Aug 2019 Mirena coil fitted 6 Jan 2020 MAJOR Wave hit 19 months following last dose (protracted WD).  Symptoms listed below Mar 2020 Mirena coil removal.

Therapy: Nov 15th 2016 Re-started therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT Dec 2017 Started listening to Hypnotherapy CD (self-esteem). Nov 2019 Started couples therapy.

Supplements: "Bioglan" Biotic Balance Ultimate Flora 10 billion CFU, live Bacteria, Probiotic, suitable for Vegetarians, with Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Lactobacillus Rhamnosus, Bifidobacterium Longum"Pukka" Vitalise a unique blend of 30 energising botanicals.

Diet: 16 April 2018 Detox cleanse / anti-candida for 90 days. Jan 2020 Started "small plate" diet (i.e child size portions).

Exercise: Stretching, Yoga, Pilates, Spinning, Elliptical/upper body workout, walking.

Medical Test Results: 4 Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 24 Feb 2017 Started weight loss program 24 Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment + anti-Candida diet started due to suspected Candida Related Complex (CRC). DETOXED for 7 weeks to "re-set" gut. April 2017 "Genova Diagnostics" Comprehensive Stool Analysis NEGATIVE; Full Blood Count (Normal) / Blood Cholesterol: 5.6 (Borderline) / Blood Sugar (Normal) / 28 Jun 2017 FSH 8.2 / 14 Nov 2017 FSH 17.7 Dec 2017 Blood Cholesterol: 3.9 (Normal) / Kidney Function (Normal) / Blood Sugar (Normal). December 2017 "Genova Diagnostics" Food panel allergy (bloodwork) analysis - a few "VERY LOW/VL" allergens; Mar 2018 "Genova Diagnostics" SIBO urine analysis: High Level of Yeast/fungal markers found in small intestine but NO SIBO.  April 2018 Thyroid (Normal) / Full Blood Count (Normal) / FSH (Normal). 16 April 2018 Started anti-Candida diet - 3 month protocol.   25 March 2020 All test results "Normal". CRP" 5 mg/L (normal range to 0-5 mg/L).

Symptoms:  Flu-like symptoms, anxiety, anhedonia, sinus headaches right-side (severe), IBS issues/reflux (severe)**, tinnitus, fatigue, inner tremor, nausea, chills/hot flushes, pounding heart, muscular issues including stiff left hip flexor, intense anger, PSSD (ongoing).  **Histhamine intolerance (suspected).

Major Life Events: 

Re-located to UK from Canada: Jan 2016

My father died: 5:05pm, Monday 5 Feb 2018 Last Lexapro dose: 16 April 2018 (its now been over a year since I quit ADs)  Moved house: Friday 23rd February 2018  "Divorced" toxic Mother: Monday 26 March 2018 Starting working again: 19 November 2018  Diagnosed with: 5th August 2021 PTSD/C-PTSD Diagnosed with: March 2022 Interstitial Cystitis (IC)/Painful bladder syndrome

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13 minutes ago, Junglechicken said:

Well done Frogie on the weight loss, that's really excellent :)

 

The first few Ibs are likely to be water, and then as your metabolism changes, you'll start losing fat.

 

My weight has increased :huh: it increased by 6Ibs before my last TOTM was due.....said TOTM didn't show up until 2 weeks later, and its never gone back down.  That is water retention, but I seem to be stuck with it.   I eat a squeaky clean diet too.

 

Must be peri-meno rubbish, but hope my naturopath can make some suggestions.

 

Keep up the great work, it will improve your mood (as I've found).

 

TC,

JC xxx

Thanks JC:

 

I wasn't trying to lose weight. Having no water to wash clothes or take showers, or a toilet I ate really bad. Lots of burgers on the grill, things like that. But drank a lot of water because it's been so hot. Could tapering cause weight loss also?

 

So I'm ok to lose 5 pounds in a week? I tend to freak out over everything as you know.

 

Thanks. :)

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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1 minute ago, Frogie said:

Thanks JC:

 

I wasn't trying to lose weight. Having no water to wash clothes or take showers, or a toilet I ate really bad. Lots of burgers on the grill, things like that. But drank a lot of water because it's been so hot. Could tapering cause weight loss also?

 

So I'm ok to lose 5 pounds in a week? I tend to freak out over everything as you know.

 

Thanks. :)

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

I'm the same over "freak" things - even random bruises freak me out!

 

Tapering could well cause weight loss.....but you could also still be dehydrated despite drinking a lot of water. 

 

Disgusting question, are you checking if your urine is dark?

 

When I came off Cipralex CT a couple of years ago; my weight just kept on dropping as quickly as it had come on.

 

Make sure you keep a detailed symptoms log, as this could help reveal the cause of any "health" anomalies.

 

TC,

JC xxx

Dose History: 19 Feb 2014 - Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms faded. Held at this dose and experienced "windows and waves". 12 Oct 2017 Reduced dose to 1.25mg. 13 Mar 2018 Reduced dose to 0.625mg (approx.). 16 April 2018 0mg. Windows and waves triggered by stress (IBS/reflux, headaches, sinus issues) Aug 2019 Mirena coil fitted 6 Jan 2020 MAJOR Wave hit 19 months following last dose (protracted WD).  Symptoms listed below Mar 2020 Mirena coil removal.

Therapy: Nov 15th 2016 Re-started therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT Dec 2017 Started listening to Hypnotherapy CD (self-esteem). Nov 2019 Started couples therapy.

Supplements: "Bioglan" Biotic Balance Ultimate Flora 10 billion CFU, live Bacteria, Probiotic, suitable for Vegetarians, with Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Lactobacillus Rhamnosus, Bifidobacterium Longum"Pukka" Vitalise a unique blend of 30 energising botanicals.

Diet: 16 April 2018 Detox cleanse / anti-candida for 90 days. Jan 2020 Started "small plate" diet (i.e child size portions).

Exercise: Stretching, Yoga, Pilates, Spinning, Elliptical/upper body workout, walking.

Medical Test Results: 4 Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 24 Feb 2017 Started weight loss program 24 Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment + anti-Candida diet started due to suspected Candida Related Complex (CRC). DETOXED for 7 weeks to "re-set" gut. April 2017 "Genova Diagnostics" Comprehensive Stool Analysis NEGATIVE; Full Blood Count (Normal) / Blood Cholesterol: 5.6 (Borderline) / Blood Sugar (Normal) / 28 Jun 2017 FSH 8.2 / 14 Nov 2017 FSH 17.7 Dec 2017 Blood Cholesterol: 3.9 (Normal) / Kidney Function (Normal) / Blood Sugar (Normal). December 2017 "Genova Diagnostics" Food panel allergy (bloodwork) analysis - a few "VERY LOW/VL" allergens; Mar 2018 "Genova Diagnostics" SIBO urine analysis: High Level of Yeast/fungal markers found in small intestine but NO SIBO.  April 2018 Thyroid (Normal) / Full Blood Count (Normal) / FSH (Normal). 16 April 2018 Started anti-Candida diet - 3 month protocol.   25 March 2020 All test results "Normal". CRP" 5 mg/L (normal range to 0-5 mg/L).

Symptoms:  Flu-like symptoms, anxiety, anhedonia, sinus headaches right-side (severe), IBS issues/reflux (severe)**, tinnitus, fatigue, inner tremor, nausea, chills/hot flushes, pounding heart, muscular issues including stiff left hip flexor, intense anger, PSSD (ongoing).  **Histhamine intolerance (suspected).

Major Life Events: 

Re-located to UK from Canada: Jan 2016

My father died: 5:05pm, Monday 5 Feb 2018 Last Lexapro dose: 16 April 2018 (its now been over a year since I quit ADs)  Moved house: Friday 23rd February 2018  "Divorced" toxic Mother: Monday 26 March 2018 Starting working again: 19 November 2018  Diagnosed with: 5th August 2021 PTSD/C-PTSD Diagnosed with: March 2022 Interstitial Cystitis (IC)/Painful bladder syndrome

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I had a hysterectomy in 2007...premenopausal...they didn't know if I had cancer or not...I was terrified but turned out I had adenomyosis (causes heavy periods and bad cramps)...they removed ovaries,too  which I tried to fight but anyway never felt the same after that...your body is never the same again.

 

yeah,I can't seem to get exercising either....feel tired a lot.

 

I get the burning in my back,too...sometimes arms,,even hands at times...it's so annoying but this whole thing is so annoying,isn't it ?

 

sorry you're still feeling weepy...it will pass.

 

hug your Chihuahua :)      ds xx

went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct  back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs.

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6 minutes ago, Junglechicken said:

I'm the same over "freak" things - even random bruises freak me out!

 

Tapering could well cause weight loss.....but you could also still be dehydrated despite drinking a lot of water. 

 

Disgusting question, are you checking if your urine is dark?

 

When I came off Cipralex CT a couple of years ago; my weight just kept on dropping as quickly as it had come on.

 

Make sure you keep a detailed symptoms log, as this could help reveal the cause of any "health" anomalies.

 

TC,

JC xxx

I have bruises right now on my leg but know where they came from, or I would be freaking out.

 

My urine is very very light yellow. So I know I'm not dehydrated. I check that just as you do I'm sure.

 

I was nauseous for a couple days, but I attributed that to nerves, no sewer, no toilet for almost a week. It went away really quickly after getting up in the morning. I don't have it now.

 

I'm doing Brassmonkey's taper, just 2.5% a week, but adds up to 10% a month. It's working pretty well for me. Maybe that's why I've lost weight too.

 

I keep a journal if I don't feel well, what I ate, drank, etc... Everyday.

 

I was just freaking out about losing 5 pounds. But you put me at ease.

 

Thanks. :)

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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8 minutes ago, direstraits said:

I had a hysterectomy in 2007...premenopausal...they didn't know if I had cancer or not...I was terrified but turned out I had adenomyosis (causes heavy periods and bad cramps)...they removed ovaries,too  which I tried to fight but anyway never felt the same after that...your body is never the same again.

 

yeah,I can't seem to get exercising either....feel tired a lot.

 

I get the burning in my back,too...sometimes arms,,even hands at times...it's so annoying but this whole thing is so annoying,isn't it ?

 

sorry you're still feeling weepy...it will pass.

 

hug your Chihuahua :)      ds xx

I had endometriosis also, and premenopausal, they took my overies too. No you aren't the same.

 

I feel tired a lot too. But I'm bored at the same time. I don't work and live in a 600 people very clickish town. I have 1 friend and don't talk to her everyday. She lives across the street.

 

I think I'm wheapy because I've had so much going on, and now I'm here by myself. 

 

This whole thing is very annoying. I've already come off 5 drugs, I have Lexapro and then Xanax and I'm done. I just want it overwith, but learned my lesson to take it easy and slow.

 

I was just freaking out about losing 5 pounds in a week, but I guess it's normal.

 

Thanks. :)

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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Update:

 

We went home over the weekend to celebrate my fiancés dads 90th birthday. It was so nice to see his family and my Uncle.

 

I didn't get to see my oldest son, daughter in law or granddaughter. They were camping and fishing. But saw pictures, my granddaughter was having a lot of fun. She even caught a fish.

 

The hardest thing is we left yesterday to come back to nowhere. I can't call it home, it's just where I live. I cried the whole way home (200 miles).

 

Today I'm a bit nauseous and very wheapy. But I chalk it up to stress and anxiety for having to leave.

 

Now I sit here all alone, with my baby chihuahua, watching tv while she sleeps. She will be 16 in a couple of weeks.

 

I have 1 friend in this horrid town. She's lived here a long time, so she is accepted. I'm not accepted because I've only been here 4 years. It is that clickish here. There are only 600 people in our town.

 

I'll be glad to go home for good. Hopefully in 1 1/2-2 years, and I know I'll heal better with friends and family. Better Drs, not that these are horrible. Mine is allowing me to withdrawl on my terms, not pushing me at all.

 

The bottom of my feet are still burning, like I'm walking on a hot sidewalk without shoes, but not hot to the touch. And in the last couple of weeks I've developed this brown blotchy "stuff" on my neck. It looks like you get sunburned, turns brown, and then it starts peeling. But I never get sunburned. I use sunscreen like crazy. Can't use enough. If anyone has any ideas on what it is and how to get rid of it, that would be great.

 

Hope everyone is doing well.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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