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#361 ShakeyJerr

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 03:30 PM

So far I haven't been able to get above 50 mg before bed with getting the laxative effect, so that may be my sweet spot.  However, I'm going to try to add another 10mg in the morning to see if I can inch up.


I have been using mag citrate and notice if I go over 300mg in a day I sometimes get the laxative effect. I am going to switch to using mag glycinate beginning tonight. It's suppose to be better for anxiety and has a less laxative effect.

I will report back.

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Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003 (I don't remember the dosages). Went off but developed symptoms so put back on after 4 months.

Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) some time in 2010 (I think). Did a self-taper during 2016 after losing insurance. Been off since around the beginning of 2017.

Developed Discontinuation Syndrome beginning with uncontrolled/unexplained crying in 02/17.

Moved on to full-blow symptoms from there. Been really bad since late 03/17.


#362 ikam

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 02:58 AM

I tolerate glycinate better...less laxative effect; more calming effect...


- Started various antidepresants in 1983 (doxepin, amitriptiline, anafranil), always stopped abruptly and then reintroduced; Long term use of benzos since 1983, on and off, in times prolonged use
- 2012 re-started Doxepin 75mg, evening. Atenolol 25mg, twice a day (both as a migraine prevention); Low dose of HRT (Sandrena gel +  Utrogestan 100mg)- evening; Nasal spray Otrivine for about 3 years- evening and morning (Used to abuse nasal spray for years). PPI Omeprazole 40mg-evening

- 24.10.2014- Started escitalopram-first 5mg and then 10mg; 5.01.2015- Escitalopram- 2.5mg (I had an adverse response to escitalopram and doxepin; hence I was decreasing escitalopram faster)

- June 2015- decreased Doxepin from 75mg to 50mg; 28 November- intentional over-dose (doxepin- 250mg). 1-2 April- over-dose 350mg, 17.07.2016 Doxepin 150mg- intentional over-dose(Tendency to overdose when stressed out...)

- 22.07.2016- reduced by 1%, 29.07- reduced by 2%, 2.08- reduced by 3%, 9.08- reduced by 4%. Holding for 5 weeks

- 13.09- reduced by 5%, 20.09- reduced by 6%, 27.09.2016 reduced by 7% , 4.10- reduced by 8% = 2.3mg. Holding for 5 weeks

- 14.11- reduced by 9%, 22.11- reduced by 10% = 2.25mg long holding

​- 06.04.2017- REDUCED by 2% since the last dose = 2.2mg

-20.12. 2016- changed my diet and supplements protocol; Ionic Liquid Iron twice 100ml, Liquid Zynk- twice- 50ml, MegaMag Liquid- evening 100ml, Curcumin 600mg x 3 a day Burdock Root + Epsom Baths. Changed diet to Protein one + Veg; Avoiding carbs. Protein Shake (Pure Power Protein Powder by Mercola) + Supergreens + Coconut Oils, Himalayan Salt with lemon


#363 tntd

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 10:07 AM

I have a variety of magnesiums that I take. Malate, for fibromyalgia, orotate, supposed to help with sleep, and glycinate, for the anxiety. I also take additional glycine to try to deal with the anxiety. I have citrate but rarely use it as it does cause more GI problems. 

 

I find it interesting that there are so many different types of magnesium compounds and they all have different purposes. I would really like to try the theronate but it is so expensive :(


Buspirone to 45mg, Cold Turkey St. John's Wort 600mg Jan 1, 2016. Cold Turkey Buproprion 150SR June 1 due to severe Akathisia that did not decrease with reducing the dosage.

Clonazepam 1.25mg, started daily liquid micro taper of clonazepam on Nov 1, 2016. Changed to sxs based taper 01/17.

11/10/16 .4104 3X day; 11/17/16 .4091 3x day; 11/28/16 .406 3x day; 12/4/16 .404 3x day; 12/11/16 .4028 3x

01/12/17 .39267 3x day holding; 02/25/17 .3902 3x day, holding.

L-theanine 200 mg 3x day, L-glycine 500mg 3x day, vit C 1000 mg sustained release 2x day. Fish oil 1800mg EPA + DHA. Vit E 400 IU, magnesium in various forms. Inositol 3x a day abt 20mg, Lactium 167mg 3x day, Taurine 500mg 2Xday.

5/20/16 Using Cranial Eletrotherapy Stimulation. 2x day 1 hour at level 1. Using Alph-Stim AID. 

 


#364 SkyBlue

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 06:20 PM

I think it may be very easy to read through this thread and perhaps give up on Magnesium particularly if sensitive. That would be a mistake. Like anything supplemental - there is a sweet spot and it pays to perhaps find it in the end.

 

Personally, I have found it to be one of the greatest aids in withdrawal and recovery in all it's forms. Oil spray, epsom salts baths and supplements. It seems to ease pain, relax the worried mind, soothe anxiety and help to induce sleep. It seems to be a total all - rounder that everyone should really have in their toolkit of healing.

 

 

 

I'd like to reiterate AliG's message, that although we need to be careful of our sensitivities, magnesium can be very, very, very beneficial in our healing from SSRIs. I believe it is very much worth some gentle experimentation. 

 

My favorite kind of magnesium is Natural Calm. I think I (and others) have mentioned it before -- it is a powder form that you put in water; it becomes effervescent (bubbly) and you can drink it. It is incredible. The powder form also allows you to customize very small dosages and build up from there. Ever since I first tried this product back in October, I haven't gone a day without using it. Between my morning and evening dose I get about 400-500 mg that way, then the rest transdermally (lotion or spray). 

 

AliG (and others), have you found a spray version that you like? I find that they all get the spray pump clogged up. 


Long story short: After 18 years on Paxil, "tapered" in July 2015 from 20 to 10 to 5 mg in a month, at doctor's advice. = Essentially a cold-turkey.

*Current*: March: 0.82 mg Paxil. Jan 1:  .88 mg, baby!! …. August 31: Less than 1mg Paxil! ... July 30: 1 mg Paxil! ! ! And 100 mg Zoloft unfortunately!!  

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On Paxil since 1996--anxiety & depression likely caused by (then-undiagnosed) under-eating / eating disorder. 

Rapid "taper" July 2015 and started Zoloft as a "cross-taper". Feb 2016: Found SA!! As of June 2016: Doing 2% cuts (Brassmonkey Slide!). 

Now: fish oil, magnesium; protein; exercise; healthy fats; acupuncture, meditation, & a new doctor.  I am in recovery from an eating disorder!!!  ***Have you had a sleep study?***    *Feel free to message me if I don't respond to a forum thread.* 


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Posted 30 April 2017 - 06:24 PM

I think I am going to try mixing up my morning magnesium the night before and take it immediately upon waking. I usually have it within ten minutes of waking, but maybe more immediately would be better. Hoping this will help address the WD-induced haywire cortisol spike that so often causes either panic or severely low mood upon waking. 

 

I'll report back. :)


Long story short: After 18 years on Paxil, "tapered" in July 2015 from 20 to 10 to 5 mg in a month, at doctor's advice. = Essentially a cold-turkey.

*Current*: March: 0.82 mg Paxil. Jan 1:  .88 mg, baby!! …. August 31: Less than 1mg Paxil! ... July 30: 1 mg Paxil! ! ! And 100 mg Zoloft unfortunately!!  

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On Paxil since 1996--anxiety & depression likely caused by (then-undiagnosed) under-eating / eating disorder. 

Rapid "taper" July 2015 and started Zoloft as a "cross-taper". Feb 2016: Found SA!! As of June 2016: Doing 2% cuts (Brassmonkey Slide!). 

Now: fish oil, magnesium; protein; exercise; healthy fats; acupuncture, meditation, & a new doctor.  I am in recovery from an eating disorder!!!  ***Have you had a sleep study?***    *Feel free to message me if I don't respond to a forum thread.* 


#366 hennie86

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Posted 07 May 2017 - 03:11 AM

I tried a little bit of magnesium spray a couple of times and every time it made my symptoms worse. I wish it would have helped with my RLS and weird sensations in my legs but I think it made my withdrawal symptoms worse so no more magnesium spray for me.

2005-2009 Lexapro 10-20mg & Remeron: cold turkey

2010 1month Venlafaxine

2014 6 days Cipro(antibiotics) first bad reaction to meds

2011-2012, 8 months of Seroquel 25mg & 2011-2015 Lexapro 10-20mg (tapered off during 4 months)

2015-2016 (all these drugs during 9 months) : tried Remeron for insomnia.Tried to reinstate Lexapro 3 months after quitting it: fail. Akathisia, insomnia. Then went to hospital: Zyprexa10mg, Depakote, Temazepam(20mg), Oxazepam 30-45 mgs. Then switching meds: Seroquel 50-100mg, Oxazepam  30-45mg , Temazepam 20mg. Then back to Zyprexa 10mg, Temazepam(20mg), tapered off Oxazepam. Then Zyprexa 20mg, Temazepam 20mg, melatonin10mg ( sometimes very rarely Valium 10 mg.) Zyprexa: cold turkey. Bad akathisia and insomnia again. Bad reactions to supplements.

2016 spring daily Valium 15mg>0mg (used for 4,5 months and during that time slowly tapered off), Temazepam 40 mg > 35 mg > 30 > 25 mg (tapered in 3 months)

2016 summer Temazepam 25 mg > 20 mg, melatonin 2,5 mg

2016 november Melatonin 0,5 mg, Temazepam 20 mg.  Started tapering. 20>17,5>16>15,5>15,00>14,5>14. Then started to lower my dose 0,25 mg every 3-4 days

2017 april Temazepam 11 mg, melatonin 0,5 mg. Supplements: D vitamin, probiotics, fish oil. 


#367 hennie86

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Posted 07 May 2017 - 03:16 AM

does anybody know about mag chloride (MegaMAg)? i feel as if it activates me instead of calming...


I also feel like mag chloride activates me instead of calming.

2005-2009 Lexapro 10-20mg & Remeron: cold turkey

2010 1month Venlafaxine

2014 6 days Cipro(antibiotics) first bad reaction to meds

2011-2012, 8 months of Seroquel 25mg & 2011-2015 Lexapro 10-20mg (tapered off during 4 months)

2015-2016 (all these drugs during 9 months) : tried Remeron for insomnia.Tried to reinstate Lexapro 3 months after quitting it: fail. Akathisia, insomnia. Then went to hospital: Zyprexa10mg, Depakote, Temazepam(20mg), Oxazepam 30-45 mgs. Then switching meds: Seroquel 50-100mg, Oxazepam  30-45mg , Temazepam 20mg. Then back to Zyprexa 10mg, Temazepam(20mg), tapered off Oxazepam. Then Zyprexa 20mg, Temazepam 20mg, melatonin10mg ( sometimes very rarely Valium 10 mg.) Zyprexa: cold turkey. Bad akathisia and insomnia again. Bad reactions to supplements.

2016 spring daily Valium 15mg>0mg (used for 4,5 months and during that time slowly tapered off), Temazepam 40 mg > 35 mg > 30 > 25 mg (tapered in 3 months)

2016 summer Temazepam 25 mg > 20 mg, melatonin 2,5 mg

2016 november Melatonin 0,5 mg, Temazepam 20 mg.  Started tapering. 20>17,5>16>15,5>15,00>14,5>14. Then started to lower my dose 0,25 mg every 3-4 days

2017 april Temazepam 11 mg, melatonin 0,5 mg. Supplements: D vitamin, probiotics, fish oil. 


#368 AprilShowers

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Posted 07 May 2017 - 03:55 PM

Quick question if anyone knows the answer? If I was to switch from magnesium oxide to magnesium glycinate would I still look to be taking the same type of sized dose? Just wondering what size of supplement to go for if I buy something different. It seems they work in differing ways and I'd like to get a grip on anxiety and also noticed that on another thread someone said glycinate helped lower their blood pressure which I have an issue with. 


2000: Use of venlafaxine for moderate depression for two years. Tapered off with no major problems. 

2010: Venlafaxine 5 years, doses between 75-150-300. Tolerated but only partially stabilised the severe depression & escallating side effects. 

Adverse reactions to citalopram (tried before venlafaxine), sertraline & mirtazapine (tried after venlafaxine became problematic) with suicidal ideation caused. 

2014: Adverse reaction to one prozac pill which I tried to begin taking in order to stabilise the withdrawal and actually made it horrendously worse. My body & brain went on fire two hours after taking the pill and severe WD began.

Spring 2014: CEASED ALL ANTIDEPRESSANTS. Did take occasional lorazepam (two weeks at first followed by the occasional half tablet at night sometimes.

2014: WD: living hell for five months, gradually improved a little by little for almost a year and a half but with frequent heart palpitations, weakness and anxiety and very poor sleep. Struggled to do things both physically & mentally but was improving slowly. 

2015: WD relapse with full symptoms. anxiety/panic triggered beyond initial anxiety resurgence by a couple of small half doses of Lorazepam that seem to have restarted all the WD symptoms I had in the beginning & ruined all the progress I had made. 

2017: Bad reaction to propranolol beta blockers. Nervous system kindled into violent shaking like withdrawal again. Alerting system on overdrive. 

 

Current Supplements: Omega 3 & Vitamin C, magnesium, potassium, pre/probiotics, brewer's yeast. 

 


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Posted 08 May 2017 - 12:06 PM

Hi AprilShowers,

 

If you take a look at your bottle it will show you how much magnesium you are taking per capsule/tablet whatever. That is what you are going to want to keep the same if you are planning on trying to keep the same amount of magnesium. 


Buspirone to 45mg, Cold Turkey St. John's Wort 600mg Jan 1, 2016. Cold Turkey Buproprion 150SR June 1 due to severe Akathisia that did not decrease with reducing the dosage.

Clonazepam 1.25mg, started daily liquid micro taper of clonazepam on Nov 1, 2016. Changed to sxs based taper 01/17.

11/10/16 .4104 3X day; 11/17/16 .4091 3x day; 11/28/16 .406 3x day; 12/4/16 .404 3x day; 12/11/16 .4028 3x

01/12/17 .39267 3x day holding; 02/25/17 .3902 3x day, holding.

L-theanine 200 mg 3x day, L-glycine 500mg 3x day, vit C 1000 mg sustained release 2x day. Fish oil 1800mg EPA + DHA. Vit E 400 IU, magnesium in various forms. Inositol 3x a day abt 20mg, Lactium 167mg 3x day, Taurine 500mg 2Xday.

5/20/16 Using Cranial Eletrotherapy Stimulation. 2x day 1 hour at level 1. Using Alph-Stim AID. 

 


#370 SkyBlue

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Posted 08 May 2017 - 05:48 PM

Amazing and confusing that there are so many types of magnesium out there. 

 

I want to share about something I tried that might work for others. Dead Sea salts, very high in magnesium, dissolved in the bath. (Try using in a foot bath even.) I felt really, really relaxed after trying it. 

 

Here is an Amazon link but your local co-op might have them: https://www.amazon.c...t_top?ie=UTF8)  Let me know if you try these and find them helpful like I did.


Long story short: After 18 years on Paxil, "tapered" in July 2015 from 20 to 10 to 5 mg in a month, at doctor's advice. = Essentially a cold-turkey.

*Current*: March: 0.82 mg Paxil. Jan 1:  .88 mg, baby!! …. August 31: Less than 1mg Paxil! ... July 30: 1 mg Paxil! ! ! And 100 mg Zoloft unfortunately!!  

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On Paxil since 1996--anxiety & depression likely caused by (then-undiagnosed) under-eating / eating disorder. 

Rapid "taper" July 2015 and started Zoloft as a "cross-taper". Feb 2016: Found SA!! As of June 2016: Doing 2% cuts (Brassmonkey Slide!). 

Now: fish oil, magnesium; protein; exercise; healthy fats; acupuncture, meditation, & a new doctor.  I am in recovery from an eating disorder!!!  ***Have you had a sleep study?***    *Feel free to message me if I don't respond to a forum thread.* 


#371 Alpha23

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 02:31 AM

Just wondering how long it should take for Magnesium supplementation to help with heart palpitations. Should there be an almost immediate effect or do you need to take the magnesium for a few weeks before feeling the benefits? I know this varies from person to person but it would be good to hear what the general consensus is.


Prozac 30 mg for many years.

Short two-week taper to 20 mg followed by 5 day washout period. (January 2017)

Lexapro 10 mg for 25 days. Stopped due to intolerable side-effects, notably palpitations and tinnitus. (February 2017)

Two day washout period before reinstating Prozac at 40 mg. (February 2017)

3 weeks later end up in ER due to severe palpitations and dizziness. (March 2017)

2 weeks of insomnia and intermittent akathesia. (March 2017)

Currently on Prozac 20 mg (just trying to stabilize, not ready to taper yet).


#372 KarenB

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Posted 20 May 2017 - 09:37 PM

It can take a few weeks for the effects to build up in some people; others notice it sooner.  It all depends on so many other variables. 


2010 May Fluoxetine 20mg. Raging mostly stops, become more functional.
2011 February Escitalopram 10mg (sudden switch). 2012 January Escitalopram 20mg.  2013 Early June Feeling great, decide to taper. Doc advises alternate days 20mg/10mg for 4 weeks.  Late June Steady. Drop to 10mg daily. Early July Not coping, raging, flu symptoms, shaky, anxious, low, spaced-out, self-destructive.  Mid July Return to alternate days 20mg/10mg - minimal improvement. Early August Return to full dose 20mg. Lost.
2014 February Switch to Venlafaxine. (First reduced Esc. to 10mg/day for a week) Feb-April Lost, 'light' self-harm, exhausted.
April Increase Ven. to 150mg/day. Dizzy. July 75mg twice a day to improve dizziness. Deep depression remains.  2015 Feb Vigilant dose spacing partially eases dizziness. Mar Switch to Effexor 75mg 2x/day. May Cut 10% to 135mg - bad w/d 2 mths, held 1 mth.  Aug 1.3% cut - bad 1mth, held 1mth. Oct 4 wkly 0.4% cuts held 6 weeks. Jan 2016 2 wkly 0.4% cuts. 8 month hold. Sept Wkly cuts: 0.5%, 3 1% cuts.  Oct 4 wkly 1% cuts, hold 3-4 weeks.
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#373 Lorin

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Posted 27 May 2017 - 05:36 AM

is ther magnesium that dont cause diarrhea?


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3/2016 -11/16 lexapro 20 mg

24/11/16 - 1/1/17 lexapro 15 mg
1/1/17-22/2/2017 lexapro 10 mg
23/2/17-23/3/17- lexapro 7.5 mg

24/3/2017-11/4/17 lexapro 5 mg

11/4/17-lexapro 3.5 mg


#374 ShakeyJerr

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Posted 27 May 2017 - 08:09 AM

is ther magnesium that dont cause diarrhea?

 

The short answer there is "maybe." Because ultimately, everybody's body is different. I do find that for me, Magnesium Glycinate does not cause the runs.

 

SJ


Link to my intro/main thread: http://survivinganti...jerr-say-hello/

 

Med History
Dates are tentative (my memory is shot)...

Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003 (I don't remember the dosages). Went off but developed symptoms so put back on after 4 months.

Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) some time in 2010 (I think). Did a self-taper during 2016 after losing insurance. Been off since around the beginning of 2017.

Developed Discontinuation Syndrome beginning with uncontrolled/unexplained crying in 02/17.

Moved on to full-blow symptoms from there. Been really bad since late 03/17.


#375 Gridley

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Posted 27 May 2017 - 09:17 AM

As SJ said, it is all individual.  I can tolerate only 50 mg magnesium glycinate at night plus a a few milligrams more two times during the day.  I'm trying slowly to build up to more.


Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg. since 2004 for depression.  January 6, 2017, began 2.5% taper per week for four weeks with 2-week hold. Jan. 6 19.5 mg, Jan 13 19 mg, Jan. 20 18.5 mg, Jan. 27 18 mg, Feb. 3 two-week hold, Feb. 18 17.5  mg, Feb. 25 17.1 mg, Mar. 4 16.7 mg, Mar. 11 16.3mg, Mar. 18 two-week hold, April 1 15.9 mg, April 8 15.5 mg, April 15 15.1 mg, April 21 holding at 15.1 mg, May 5 resume taper at 14.7 mg, May 13 14.3 mg, May 20 13.9 mg, May 27 13.5 mg

 

Lorazepam 1 mg for colitis-related stress 1986.  CT 1992, reinstated a few months later.  CT approx. 2000 with no difficulty.  Since 2011 1mg for insomnia at bedtime. Decreased to .75 mg mid-2015 with no difficulty.  September 28, 2016, increased to 1.5 mg in a split dose

.5 mg, morning, afternoon and bedtime.  April 21 began crossover to locally available brand.  May 5 completed crossover and holding.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986, prescribed for ulcerative colitis pain.  CT 1991, experienced bad flare-up of colitis, reinstated a few months later.  Jan. 27, 2016, began every-3-weeks 10% taper.  At 30 mg began experiencing dizziness; at 25 mg experiencing anxiety as well as insomnia; at 19 mg - more anxiety; at 15 mg - more anxiety; August 30 discovered SA, updosed to 25 mg and holding there.    

 

Supplements: theanine, omega fish oil, vitamin E, magnesium glycinate, Natural Balance Happy Camper, VSL3 probiotic, vitamin D3, digestive enzyme, zinc, fo-ti.  Enerphos (phosphoserine) for insomnia. 


#376 Altostrata

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Posted 27 May 2017 - 11:35 AM

Just wondering how long it should take for Magnesium supplementation to help with heart palpitations. Should there be an almost immediate effect or do you need to take the magnesium for a few weeks before feeling the benefits? I know this varies from person to person but it would be good to hear what the general consensus is.

 

Also see Taurine (L-taurine amino acid)
 
L-Theanine for anxiety, insomnia

 

All of these have gentle effects. They are not cures.

 

Lorin, if you get diarrhea, you are taking too much magnesium.


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#377 SkyBlue

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Posted 28 May 2017 - 08:32 AM

I find it so interesting that magnesium can affect people so differently (especially in withdrawal). I really encourage everyone to experiment and find a type and amount of magnesium that works for them. The benefits are so great that I want to reiterate that I really think it is worth the effort involved. 

 

I think I need a "MAGNESIUM!!" sticker for my profile picture!!  :lol:


Long story short: After 18 years on Paxil, "tapered" in July 2015 from 20 to 10 to 5 mg in a month, at doctor's advice. = Essentially a cold-turkey.

*Current*: March: 0.82 mg Paxil. Jan 1:  .88 mg, baby!! …. August 31: Less than 1mg Paxil! ... July 30: 1 mg Paxil! ! ! And 100 mg Zoloft unfortunately!!  

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

On Paxil since 1996--anxiety & depression likely caused by (then-undiagnosed) under-eating / eating disorder. 

Rapid "taper" July 2015 and started Zoloft as a "cross-taper". Feb 2016: Found SA!! As of June 2016: Doing 2% cuts (Brassmonkey Slide!). 

Now: fish oil, magnesium; protein; exercise; healthy fats; acupuncture, meditation, & a new doctor.  I am in recovery from an eating disorder!!!  ***Have you had a sleep study?***    *Feel free to message me if I don't respond to a forum thread.* 


#378 powerback

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Posted 28 May 2017 - 09:03 AM

I find it so interesting that magnesium can affect people so differently (especially in withdrawal). I really encourage everyone to experiment and find a type and amount of magnesium that works for them. The benefits are so great that I want to reiterate that I really think it is worth the effort involved. 

 

I think I need a "MAGNESIUM!!" sticker for my profile picture!!  :lol:

 

i take citrate 100mg and Epsom baths sometimes 3 times a week,jurys out for me but ile keep at it .what amount and type you take


June 2012 citroll 10mg

​July 2012 citroll 20 mg

​September 2013 Lexapro 20mg

October 2014 venlafaxine xl 75mg

January 2015 venlafaxine xl 37.5mg

April 2015 venlafaxine xl 75mg

June 2015 venlafaxine 37.5mg ..this is my current dose to this day at present

IVE had 2 unsuccessful tapers in the last year . 

 


#379 Lorin

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Posted 28 May 2017 - 12:08 PM

 

Just wondering how long it should take for Magnesium supplementation to help with heart palpitations. Should there be an almost immediate effect or do you need to take the magnesium for a few weeks before feeling the benefits? I know this varies from person to person but it would be good to hear what the general consensus is.

 

Also see Taurine (L-taurine amino acid)
 
L-Theanine for anxiety, insomnia

 

All of these have gentle effects. They are not cures.

 

Lorin, if you get diarrhea, you are taking too much magnesium.

 

i suffer from ibs diarrhea always because my anixty so i afraid to take magnesium
i read before about thoese supliment you wrote and the side effect of them are stomach upset and diarrhea so i afraid to take them to 


2007-2015- zoloft 100 mg
5-8/2015 taper zoloft 12.5 mg every 2 weeks
3/2016 -11/16 lexapro 20 mg

24/11/16 - 1/1/17 lexapro 15 mg
1/1/17-22/2/2017 lexapro 10 mg
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#380 Altostrata

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Posted 28 May 2017 - 05:31 PM

Don't take them if you're afraid of them.


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#381 Lorin

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Posted 28 May 2017 - 10:56 PM

Don't take them if you're afraid of them.

by your experiance are they cause stomach upset?


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Posted 28 May 2017 - 11:35 PM

 

Just wondering how long it should take for Magnesium supplementation to help with heart palpitations. Should there be an almost immediate effect or do you need to take the magnesium for a few weeks before feeling the benefits? I know this varies from person to person but it would be good to hear what the general consensus is.

 

Also see Taurine (L-taurine amino acid)
 
L-Theanine for anxiety, insomnia

 

All of these have gentle effects. They are not cures.

 

Lorin, if you get diarrhea, you are taking too much magnesium.

 


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Posted 29 May 2017 - 08:04 AM

Just took my first magnesium chill pill (300mg magnesium oxide).
I can’t believe how sensitive I am. I immediately feel the impact on my body. I’m baffled actually. I wasn’t expecting too much, so no placebo I think. First impression is very positive. Will report back after a week or so.
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may 2017 5.0mg

#384 powerback

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Posted 29 May 2017 - 08:19 AM

I had an epsom salt bath last night  for 25 minutes,not sure if this is the  reason I had an hours sleep and had to go to work today ,got through the day but I feel horrible this evening ,I usually always sleep .


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Posted 29 May 2017 - 09:49 AM

I had an epsom salt bath last night  for 25 minutes,not sure if this is the  reason I had an hours sleep and had to go to work today ,got through the day but I feel horrible this evening ,I usually always sleep .

 

Could be related to the bath. Or could be something else going on. Or something else on your mind. 

 

We all have a tendency to over-analyze what's going on, especially when we try something different in our routine. For instance, last night i started taking 500mg of Vitamin C. Today my anxiety is a bit higher than it has been the past week. Could be related. Might just also be that I have been off of work for 5 days now and am having trouble keeping myself occupied.

 

You might want to try the bath again, but not on an evening where you have to go to work the next day. I try to make a rule of no new things on a night before work. (I figured I was safe starting the Vitamin C last night because I was off today - in either case, I'm going to take it again tonight; I'm tired of jumping at shadows, and Vitamin C is supposed to be key to helping heal adrenal fatigue).

 

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