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#1 Blondiee1915

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 02:15 PM

Hi all . I was on SSRI for 9 years (mostly lexapro) with some small breaks in between. I withdrew fully (don't believe I did it slowly) in July and now 3 months later I am experiencing intense symptoms that became disabling at times . I was initially prescribed lexapro in college for panic attacks and general anxiety . Physical symptoms compared to emotional were not bad for me at all . Now 3 months later my fatigue intensified. I am constantly exhausted no matter how much I sleep . I feel detached and disconnected. I am also indifferent and not emotional (example I don't want to be intimate) the most annoying thing is dizziness and the feeling of disbalance I wonder if it will ever go away . At times I wonder if I should go back on drugs but in all honestly they didn't really help me I just get like a zombie. If anyone can share their experience coming off lexapro, similar symptoms and if gets better . Thank you so much <3


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Lexapro 20 mg since 2007 until 2013 with various attempts to stop.  Most lasted 3 months, was forced to reinstate due to severe symptoms 

During 2013 found a new dr and started trying other medications:  Prozac, Notryptoline, Effexor, Buspar, Gabapentin, Paxil (each med about 2-4 months).  

MOI Nardil (about 1 year 2014-2015) which did help with anxiety, but caused ALOT of weight and had a food reaction that sent me to ER.  

Lexapro 10 mg 2015 -2016, few months 15 mg

Vibryiid 05/16-06/16 10-15 mg 

Started to withdraw from Vibryiid around mid June with last dose in early July 16.  Felt pretty good for the whole summer. Some anxiety, dizziness, short fuse, some weakness but okay overall. Comes October - dizziness, spinning, off balance feeling, FATIGUE, anxiety, fear, racing thoughts, insomnia, DP/DR

Reinstated 10/31/16 at 2.5 mg lexapro.  Some relief, sleep better, severe DP/DR decreased.  Still very anxious, exhausted, dizzy. 

Switched 12/26/16 Luvox 50 mg (25 mg am and 25 mg pm).  Dizziness, exhaustion, anxiety, sleeping ALOT 

1/13/17 switched to one dose of Luvox 50 mg before bed.  EXHAUSTED, sleeping ALOT, dizzy, weakness, off balance, anxiety 

1/20/17 Luvox 37.5 mg before bed

 

Supplements: iron, fish oil, vitamin D, methyl folate


#2 scallywag

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 06:04 PM

Blondiee1915 -- Welcome to Surviving Antidepressants (SA)

A request: Would you summarize your history in a signature -- drugs, doses, dates, and discontinuations & reinstatements, in the last 12-18 months particularly?

  • Any drugs prior to that can just be listed with start and stop years.
  • If you can't remember exact dates, an approximate time frame is good enough, e.g. "mid-June" or "early August."
  • Please provide as much detail as you can about how you came off Lexapro.
  • You don't need to include symptoms or diagnoses other than the initial condition that led to prescribing the first drug.
  • We ask for this information in your signature so that we can see it at a glance. A list is easier to understand than one or multiple paragraphs.
  • You can find instructions in this topic: Please put your withdrawal history in signature

It sounds like you're experiencing withdrawal symptoms. Fatigue and the emotional symptoms you describe are acknowledged withdrawal symptoms. You can learn more about withdrawal syndrome at this topic:
What is withdrawal syndrome

You can find links to discussions about symptoms either this topic, Important topics about symptoms
or by browsing the Symptoms Forum

The only known way to address withdrawal symptoms is to reinstate the drug that you discontinued. Please do not reinstate the former dose you took. Since you stopped taking Lexapro, your CNS (central nervous system) has undone some of the changes it made while you were taking it. Your previous dose will likely be too much. When we have a better picture of your medication and withdrawal history, we'll suggest a dose for you to consider. Please read this topic to understand the benefits and risks of reinstatement.
About reinstating and stabilizing to reduce withdrawal symptoms
 
Also possibly relevant for you: Tips for tapering off Lexapro (escitalopram)

I hope you'll find the information in the SA forums helpful for your situation. I'm sorry that you are in the position that you need the information, but am glad that you found us.


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#3 Blondiee1915

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Posted 22 October 2016 - 10:32 AM

Hi!

Thank you so much for getting back to me.  I really appreciate any feedback 

I just adjusted my signature and added my history 

I am so nervous to reinstate lexapro and I am not sure if I should hold off a bit longer.  Considering I was on this medication on and off for 9 years maybe I need to withdraw much slower I am not sure.  I feel hopeless and sad that this is how I feel and it is not getting better.  I want to go to the gym to run outside, go to yoga, take my dog to a park.  But the spinning and disbalance, detached feeling,  clogging in ears feeling of omg I might faint (anxiety? side effect?) is preventing me from all this.  

I dont know if I should call my old psychiatrist or find a new one that take my insurance or just reinstate lexapro myself which I really dont want to do it is like going back and reversing :(((((( 

very discouraged today and just feel like a loser for not being able to be "normal" and handle life 


Lexapro 20 mg since 2007 until 2013 with various attempts to stop.  Most lasted 3 months, was forced to reinstate due to severe symptoms 

During 2013 found a new dr and started trying other medications:  Prozac, Notryptoline, Effexor, Buspar, Gabapentin, Paxil (each med about 2-4 months).  

MOI Nardil (about 1 year 2014-2015) which did help with anxiety, but caused ALOT of weight and had a food reaction that sent me to ER.  

Lexapro 10 mg 2015 -2016, few months 15 mg

Vibryiid 05/16-06/16 10-15 mg 

Started to withdraw from Vibryiid around mid June with last dose in early July 16.  Felt pretty good for the whole summer. Some anxiety, dizziness, short fuse, some weakness but okay overall. Comes October - dizziness, spinning, off balance feeling, FATIGUE, anxiety, fear, racing thoughts, insomnia, DP/DR

Reinstated 10/31/16 at 2.5 mg lexapro.  Some relief, sleep better, severe DP/DR decreased.  Still very anxious, exhausted, dizzy. 

Switched 12/26/16 Luvox 50 mg (25 mg am and 25 mg pm).  Dizziness, exhaustion, anxiety, sleeping ALOT 

1/13/17 switched to one dose of Luvox 50 mg before bed.  EXHAUSTED, sleeping ALOT, dizzy, weakness, off balance, anxiety 

1/20/17 Luvox 37.5 mg before bed

 

Supplements: iron, fish oil, vitamin D, methyl folate


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Posted 22 October 2016 - 10:46 AM

Sorry you are are experiencing wdl.

Contacting your psych will result in a dismissive attiitude, unacknowlegment and a  downplaying of what you are experiencing and may well have to endure for many months.

Are you able to write a complaint letter to the appropriate body regarding this iatrogenic harm.

 

Welcome Blondie


2000 amitryptaline, nortriptaline venlafaxine clonazepam for  arm pain from keyboard use, told I had a chemical imbalance it would fix my arm was just a matter of finding the right med for me not informed of the nature of these drugs assured safe and not addictive, CT off Effexor after being told to double the dose on reporting adverse effects...later ..uncharacteristic psych panic tearful presented to doctor to get answers. Given paroxetine no questions asked 'safe and not addictive' next please.2001-2010 paroxetine (paxil) 2 failed attempts to quit, a learned helplessness set in. Feb 10 - Sept 10,  8 month clueless taper, hell. Doc said I had underlying depression .. I said that's not right' then found online support group and the truth!...overcome with inconceivable humiliation and outrage. 28 Sept 10 drug free ...  daily psych and emotional torture beginning in the waking hours of the morning receding somewhat in the evening only to start up again the next day. 28 Sept 12 (24 months) Stabilizing  (What an indescribable unimaginable non-functional nightmare). sleep issues start up at 3 yrs  waking daily at 2am -4.30am)28 Sept 15 (5yrs drug free), cf, cmw, insomnia  horrifying pssd continues, still feel Rip van Winkle-ish, cognitively doing heaps better. 28 Sept 16 after 6 yrs start working again on a casual basis.

 

"It is unsafe for people who suffer from something that could be treated with an ssri to consult a psychiatrist." Gotzshe 2015. [ I think Gotzsche could have easily meant to say 'to consult anyone with prescribing privileges']. "Going to a psychiatrist is one of the most dangerous actions a person can take." Breggin

 

“Paroxetine is not safe, it is not effective and it meets every known definition of addictive.” McLaren, N, (2016) 'Psychiatry as bullsh*t’ p55..."Psychiatry is stuffed full of 'deep nonsense' better known as bullsh*t." McLaren 2016

 

"Within the first week of when you go on an antidepressant you may have a sexual dysfunction, it can go on forever, often only appearing when you go off the drug ...its extraordinarily common" Healy 2015

 

See  my intro post #451 for the xanax back story and for a CV -GSKs.  Come on guys get taperwise see a TaperMe Schedule

 For a staggeringly shocking 'prozac back story' see the truth post #523

 

"If I were an enemy combatant and the NZ army did this to me someone would be dragged to the Hague and jailed!"  nz11


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Posted 22 October 2016 - 11:02 AM

NZ11 - hi!

 

I can already picture how this will be.  I call my doctor and go see her.  She tells me the way I feel is that because my anxiety is back and I am depressed (I was never depressed or diagnosed with depression prior to starting Lexapro).  She will say "withdrawal side effects should have stopped after 3 months".  You need medication and let's do this one.  I will have a script in less than 30 mins of the visit will write 200$ check and go to the pharmacy to pick up druggies.  If it is back on lexapro i will enter zombie land and sleeping land again, if it is something new who knows?? 

 

I really wish we had doctors that actually want to help and guide you thru withdrawal inform you and monitor you instead of push medicine on you and tell you that you have to take it for life.  

 

I did not write to any agencies or report the side effect.  


Lexapro 20 mg since 2007 until 2013 with various attempts to stop.  Most lasted 3 months, was forced to reinstate due to severe symptoms 

During 2013 found a new dr and started trying other medications:  Prozac, Notryptoline, Effexor, Buspar, Gabapentin, Paxil (each med about 2-4 months).  

MOI Nardil (about 1 year 2014-2015) which did help with anxiety, but caused ALOT of weight and had a food reaction that sent me to ER.  

Lexapro 10 mg 2015 -2016, few months 15 mg

Vibryiid 05/16-06/16 10-15 mg 

Started to withdraw from Vibryiid around mid June with last dose in early July 16.  Felt pretty good for the whole summer. Some anxiety, dizziness, short fuse, some weakness but okay overall. Comes October - dizziness, spinning, off balance feeling, FATIGUE, anxiety, fear, racing thoughts, insomnia, DP/DR

Reinstated 10/31/16 at 2.5 mg lexapro.  Some relief, sleep better, severe DP/DR decreased.  Still very anxious, exhausted, dizzy. 

Switched 12/26/16 Luvox 50 mg (25 mg am and 25 mg pm).  Dizziness, exhaustion, anxiety, sleeping ALOT 

1/13/17 switched to one dose of Luvox 50 mg before bed.  EXHAUSTED, sleeping ALOT, dizzy, weakness, off balance, anxiety 

1/20/17 Luvox 37.5 mg before bed

 

Supplements: iron, fish oil, vitamin D, methyl folate


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Posted 22 October 2016 - 03:03 PM

Please write to an agency and raise a complaint.

Maybe its time to find a new doctor check out the rec doctors thread maybe there is one in your area.

 

I have survived the wdl drug free it is the hardest thing i have ever had to do.

If you cant cope the only option is as already mentioned by SW to ri

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2000 amitryptaline, nortriptaline venlafaxine clonazepam for  arm pain from keyboard use, told I had a chemical imbalance it would fix my arm was just a matter of finding the right med for me not informed of the nature of these drugs assured safe and not addictive, CT off Effexor after being told to double the dose on reporting adverse effects...later ..uncharacteristic psych panic tearful presented to doctor to get answers. Given paroxetine no questions asked 'safe and not addictive' next please.2001-2010 paroxetine (paxil) 2 failed attempts to quit, a learned helplessness set in. Feb 10 - Sept 10,  8 month clueless taper, hell. Doc said I had underlying depression .. I said that's not right' then found online support group and the truth!...overcome with inconceivable humiliation and outrage. 28 Sept 10 drug free ...  daily psych and emotional torture beginning in the waking hours of the morning receding somewhat in the evening only to start up again the next day. 28 Sept 12 (24 months) Stabilizing  (What an indescribable unimaginable non-functional nightmare). sleep issues start up at 3 yrs  waking daily at 2am -4.30am)28 Sept 15 (5yrs drug free), cf, cmw, insomnia  horrifying pssd continues, still feel Rip van Winkle-ish, cognitively doing heaps better. 28 Sept 16 after 6 yrs start working again on a casual basis.

 

"It is unsafe for people who suffer from something that could be treated with an ssri to consult a psychiatrist." Gotzshe 2015. [ I think Gotzsche could have easily meant to say 'to consult anyone with prescribing privileges']. "Going to a psychiatrist is one of the most dangerous actions a person can take." Breggin

 

“Paroxetine is not safe, it is not effective and it meets every known definition of addictive.” McLaren, N, (2016) 'Psychiatry as bullsh*t’ p55..."Psychiatry is stuffed full of 'deep nonsense' better known as bullsh*t." McLaren 2016

 

"Within the first week of when you go on an antidepressant you may have a sexual dysfunction, it can go on forever, often only appearing when you go off the drug ...its extraordinarily common" Healy 2015

 

See  my intro post #451 for the xanax back story and for a CV -GSKs.  Come on guys get taperwise see a TaperMe Schedule

 For a staggeringly shocking 'prozac back story' see the truth post #523

 

"If I were an enemy combatant and the NZ army did this to me someone would be dragged to the Hague and jailed!"  nz11


#7 Blondiee1915

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Posted 22 October 2016 - 03:44 PM

nz11 - thank you so much for your feedback.  I think I am going to try to hold off a little longer.  I might look for a psychiatrist and go for a consultation just to have that under my belt in case of the emergency.  At times I feel like I can do it I will be okay.  And other days I get so overwhelmed and just want to give up. 


Lexapro 20 mg since 2007 until 2013 with various attempts to stop.  Most lasted 3 months, was forced to reinstate due to severe symptoms 

During 2013 found a new dr and started trying other medications:  Prozac, Notryptoline, Effexor, Buspar, Gabapentin, Paxil (each med about 2-4 months).  

MOI Nardil (about 1 year 2014-2015) which did help with anxiety, but caused ALOT of weight and had a food reaction that sent me to ER.  

Lexapro 10 mg 2015 -2016, few months 15 mg

Vibryiid 05/16-06/16 10-15 mg 

Started to withdraw from Vibryiid around mid June with last dose in early July 16.  Felt pretty good for the whole summer. Some anxiety, dizziness, short fuse, some weakness but okay overall. Comes October - dizziness, spinning, off balance feeling, FATIGUE, anxiety, fear, racing thoughts, insomnia, DP/DR

Reinstated 10/31/16 at 2.5 mg lexapro.  Some relief, sleep better, severe DP/DR decreased.  Still very anxious, exhausted, dizzy. 

Switched 12/26/16 Luvox 50 mg (25 mg am and 25 mg pm).  Dizziness, exhaustion, anxiety, sleeping ALOT 

1/13/17 switched to one dose of Luvox 50 mg before bed.  EXHAUSTED, sleeping ALOT, dizzy, weakness, off balance, anxiety 

1/20/17 Luvox 37.5 mg before bed

 

Supplements: iron, fish oil, vitamin D, methyl folate


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Posted 22 October 2016 - 03:46 PM

Hi Blondie,

 

You might find it helpful to read these:

 

What should I expect from my doctor about withdrawal symptoms?


How do you talk to a doctor about tapering and withdrawal?


Podcasts:    Let's Talk Withdrawal

 

Antidepressants:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (caused muscle weakness), Zoloft; Cipramil CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks soon after)

Pristiq:  50mg mid 2012, 100mg beg 2014 (mild Serotonin Toxicity)     Current:  Pristiq 28mg (from 3 March 17)

 

Tapering history & graph

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

 

I've still got a way to go ... but I've already come a long way!!!

 

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.


#9 Blondiee1915

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Posted 22 October 2016 - 04:28 PM

Hi ChessieCat, thank you for the links I will check them out 

I have an appointment with naturopatic doctor on Tuesday, I am not sure if he can help me but I am going to try before going to psychiatrist.  


Lexapro 20 mg since 2007 until 2013 with various attempts to stop.  Most lasted 3 months, was forced to reinstate due to severe symptoms 

During 2013 found a new dr and started trying other medications:  Prozac, Notryptoline, Effexor, Buspar, Gabapentin, Paxil (each med about 2-4 months).  

MOI Nardil (about 1 year 2014-2015) which did help with anxiety, but caused ALOT of weight and had a food reaction that sent me to ER.  

Lexapro 10 mg 2015 -2016, few months 15 mg

Vibryiid 05/16-06/16 10-15 mg 

Started to withdraw from Vibryiid around mid June with last dose in early July 16.  Felt pretty good for the whole summer. Some anxiety, dizziness, short fuse, some weakness but okay overall. Comes October - dizziness, spinning, off balance feeling, FATIGUE, anxiety, fear, racing thoughts, insomnia, DP/DR

Reinstated 10/31/16 at 2.5 mg lexapro.  Some relief, sleep better, severe DP/DR decreased.  Still very anxious, exhausted, dizzy. 

Switched 12/26/16 Luvox 50 mg (25 mg am and 25 mg pm).  Dizziness, exhaustion, anxiety, sleeping ALOT 

1/13/17 switched to one dose of Luvox 50 mg before bed.  EXHAUSTED, sleeping ALOT, dizzy, weakness, off balance, anxiety 

1/20/17 Luvox 37.5 mg before bed

 

Supplements: iron, fish oil, vitamin D, methyl folate


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Posted 22 October 2016 - 04:30 PM

I am getting anxiety just thinking about going to the psychiatrist and starting the med again :( on top of that I have to study for CPA exam and it is so hard studying while feeling like this 


Lexapro 20 mg since 2007 until 2013 with various attempts to stop.  Most lasted 3 months, was forced to reinstate due to severe symptoms 

During 2013 found a new dr and started trying other medications:  Prozac, Notryptoline, Effexor, Buspar, Gabapentin, Paxil (each med about 2-4 months).  

MOI Nardil (about 1 year 2014-2015) which did help with anxiety, but caused ALOT of weight and had a food reaction that sent me to ER.  

Lexapro 10 mg 2015 -2016, few months 15 mg

Vibryiid 05/16-06/16 10-15 mg 

Started to withdraw from Vibryiid around mid June with last dose in early July 16.  Felt pretty good for the whole summer. Some anxiety, dizziness, short fuse, some weakness but okay overall. Comes October - dizziness, spinning, off balance feeling, FATIGUE, anxiety, fear, racing thoughts, insomnia, DP/DR

Reinstated 10/31/16 at 2.5 mg lexapro.  Some relief, sleep better, severe DP/DR decreased.  Still very anxious, exhausted, dizzy. 

Switched 12/26/16 Luvox 50 mg (25 mg am and 25 mg pm).  Dizziness, exhaustion, anxiety, sleeping ALOT 

1/13/17 switched to one dose of Luvox 50 mg before bed.  EXHAUSTED, sleeping ALOT, dizzy, weakness, off balance, anxiety 

1/20/17 Luvox 37.5 mg before bed

 

Supplements: iron, fish oil, vitamin D, methyl folate


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Posted 22 October 2016 - 04:48 PM

Here is SA's discussion:  how-good-are-naturopaths-and-other-alternative-practitioners.  Before following the advice  of the naturopath, I suggest you post their suggestions back here so you can get a second opinion.  Or research existing topics:  to search the SA for use a search engine like google and type in survivingantidepressants.org + topic.

 

SA only recommends 2 supplements: Omega-3 Fish Oil and Magnesium.  B vitamins can be stimulating, especially Vitamin B6.  If trying something new, it is best to try a small dose and build up and only try one thing at a time.

 

Some people have found acupuncture helpful:  Acupuncture - Posts #6 & #8 (not detox or stimulation)

 

Here are some topics to check out:

 

dont-waste-your-money-on-these-supplements

 

supplements-what-helps-what-doesnt

 

truehope-the-road-back-labelmesane

 

no-recommendations-for-commercial-programs-to-assist-withdrawal


Podcasts:    Let's Talk Withdrawal

 

Antidepressants:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (caused muscle weakness), Zoloft; Cipramil CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks soon after)

Pristiq:  50mg mid 2012, 100mg beg 2014 (mild Serotonin Toxicity)     Current:  Pristiq 28mg (from 3 March 17)

 

Tapering history & graph

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

 

I've still got a way to go ... but I've already come a long way!!!

 

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.


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Posted 22 October 2016 - 04:54 PM

It's also important to learn non-drug coping techniques:

  1. Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms
  2. Claire Weekes' Method of Recovering from a Sensitized Nervous System
  3. Yoga for calming (very simple poses can help greatly)
  4. Acceptance
  5. Acceptance and Mindfulness
  6. "Change the channel" -- dealing with cognitive symptoms
  7. Change cognitive framing - Redirect - Another Way
  8. Cognitive Behavior Therapy (CBT) for anxiety, depression
  9. Cognitive Behavior Therapy lessons
  10. Guided Meditations, Calming Videos, Sleep Hypnosis
  11. Journalling - Therapeutic Writing & Health Benefits

Podcasts:    Let's Talk Withdrawal

 

Antidepressants:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (caused muscle weakness), Zoloft; Cipramil CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks soon after)

Pristiq:  50mg mid 2012, 100mg beg 2014 (mild Serotonin Toxicity)     Current:  Pristiq 28mg (from 3 March 17)

 

Tapering history & graph

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

 

I've still got a way to go ... but I've already come a long way!!!

 

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.


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Posted 22 October 2016 - 08:03 PM

Blondie you will be wasting your time going to a psychiatrist. Truly. What do you think they can do? They cannot help you.

 

Im not sure what CPA is but at a guess i think its the american accounting course.

Along with all those great links cc gave you study is a great way to provide a distraction while enduring ssri wdl...trust me!

 

Dont give up.


2000 amitryptaline, nortriptaline venlafaxine clonazepam for  arm pain from keyboard use, told I had a chemical imbalance it would fix my arm was just a matter of finding the right med for me not informed of the nature of these drugs assured safe and not addictive, CT off Effexor after being told to double the dose on reporting adverse effects...later ..uncharacteristic psych panic tearful presented to doctor to get answers. Given paroxetine no questions asked 'safe and not addictive' next please.2001-2010 paroxetine (paxil) 2 failed attempts to quit, a learned helplessness set in. Feb 10 - Sept 10,  8 month clueless taper, hell. Doc said I had underlying depression .. I said that's not right' then found online support group and the truth!...overcome with inconceivable humiliation and outrage. 28 Sept 10 drug free ...  daily psych and emotional torture beginning in the waking hours of the morning receding somewhat in the evening only to start up again the next day. 28 Sept 12 (24 months) Stabilizing  (What an indescribable unimaginable non-functional nightmare). sleep issues start up at 3 yrs  waking daily at 2am -4.30am)28 Sept 15 (5yrs drug free), cf, cmw, insomnia  horrifying pssd continues, still feel Rip van Winkle-ish, cognitively doing heaps better. 28 Sept 16 after 6 yrs start working again on a casual basis.

 

"It is unsafe for people who suffer from something that could be treated with an ssri to consult a psychiatrist." Gotzshe 2015. [ I think Gotzsche could have easily meant to say 'to consult anyone with prescribing privileges']. "Going to a psychiatrist is one of the most dangerous actions a person can take." Breggin

 

“Paroxetine is not safe, it is not effective and it meets every known definition of addictive.” McLaren, N, (2016) 'Psychiatry as bullsh*t’ p55..."Psychiatry is stuffed full of 'deep nonsense' better known as bullsh*t." McLaren 2016

 

"Within the first week of when you go on an antidepressant you may have a sexual dysfunction, it can go on forever, often only appearing when you go off the drug ...its extraordinarily common" Healy 2015

 

See  my intro post #451 for the xanax back story and for a CV -GSKs.  Come on guys get taperwise see a TaperMe Schedule

 For a staggeringly shocking 'prozac back story' see the truth post #523

 

"If I were an enemy combatant and the NZ army did this to me someone would be dragged to the Hague and jailed!"  nz11


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Posted 23 October 2016 - 04:25 AM

nz11 - thank you for your support.  I am trying my best here.  Felt so anxious last night deciding what to do, to start again or not. This am a bit better, taking my dog to the park to get some fresh air. 

 

ChessieCat - thank you for all those links.  I am going to start journalizing and mediate :) 


Lexapro 20 mg since 2007 until 2013 with various attempts to stop.  Most lasted 3 months, was forced to reinstate due to severe symptoms 

During 2013 found a new dr and started trying other medications:  Prozac, Notryptoline, Effexor, Buspar, Gabapentin, Paxil (each med about 2-4 months).  

MOI Nardil (about 1 year 2014-2015) which did help with anxiety, but caused ALOT of weight and had a food reaction that sent me to ER.  

Lexapro 10 mg 2015 -2016, few months 15 mg

Vibryiid 05/16-06/16 10-15 mg 

Started to withdraw from Vibryiid around mid June with last dose in early July 16.  Felt pretty good for the whole summer. Some anxiety, dizziness, short fuse, some weakness but okay overall. Comes October - dizziness, spinning, off balance feeling, FATIGUE, anxiety, fear, racing thoughts, insomnia, DP/DR

Reinstated 10/31/16 at 2.5 mg lexapro.  Some relief, sleep better, severe DP/DR decreased.  Still very anxious, exhausted, dizzy. 

Switched 12/26/16 Luvox 50 mg (25 mg am and 25 mg pm).  Dizziness, exhaustion, anxiety, sleeping ALOT 

1/13/17 switched to one dose of Luvox 50 mg before bed.  EXHAUSTED, sleeping ALOT, dizzy, weakness, off balance, anxiety 

1/20/17 Luvox 37.5 mg before bed

 

Supplements: iron, fish oil, vitamin D, methyl folate


#15 Blondiee1915

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Posted 25 October 2016 - 02:52 PM

update: yesterday was anxious but I went to see a natural doctor and I got some Mood Food and Trancor supplements.  I started taking them yesterday.  I understand that these are natural "antidepressants" and the goal is not to be on anything but I do think I need a little something while dealing with the withdrawal.  My dizziness is not going away really, and the brain fog is still there as well.  I got a suggestion to use light therapy.  I got a lamp and took it to work today.  I am doing about 30 mins a day.  I will report any updates on mood and total well being.  


Lexapro 20 mg since 2007 until 2013 with various attempts to stop.  Most lasted 3 months, was forced to reinstate due to severe symptoms 

During 2013 found a new dr and started trying other medications:  Prozac, Notryptoline, Effexor, Buspar, Gabapentin, Paxil (each med about 2-4 months).  

MOI Nardil (about 1 year 2014-2015) which did help with anxiety, but caused ALOT of weight and had a food reaction that sent me to ER.  

Lexapro 10 mg 2015 -2016, few months 15 mg

Vibryiid 05/16-06/16 10-15 mg 

Started to withdraw from Vibryiid around mid June with last dose in early July 16.  Felt pretty good for the whole summer. Some anxiety, dizziness, short fuse, some weakness but okay overall. Comes October - dizziness, spinning, off balance feeling, FATIGUE, anxiety, fear, racing thoughts, insomnia, DP/DR

Reinstated 10/31/16 at 2.5 mg lexapro.  Some relief, sleep better, severe DP/DR decreased.  Still very anxious, exhausted, dizzy. 

Switched 12/26/16 Luvox 50 mg (25 mg am and 25 mg pm).  Dizziness, exhaustion, anxiety, sleeping ALOT 

1/13/17 switched to one dose of Luvox 50 mg before bed.  EXHAUSTED, sleeping ALOT, dizzy, weakness, off balance, anxiety 

1/20/17 Luvox 37.5 mg before bed

 

Supplements: iron, fish oil, vitamin D, methyl folate


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Posted 27 October 2016 - 06:05 PM

I have been off lexapro for 3 months now and month 3 has been very difficult (I was off and on lexapro for about 9 years).  I keep thinking in my head what I should do to hold on or reinstate lexapro.

 

Month 3 I am feeling exhausted (I can sleep for hours), anxious, very out of it, detached, emotional at times, very dizzy, disbalanced, brain fog, fear of doing things in public, I also feel like I am going crazy and have racing thoughts like omg if anything happens I know where the hospital is and I can drive myself there.

 

I contacted my psychiatrist to see what I should do and was told that if i dont want to do medication I should use a CBT specialist instead.  She said that this is not my withdrawal but my anxiety.

 

I have a high demanding job and I do not have a luxury of not working and taking time off to heal from this drug.  I was upset this week that I am broken and cant be fixed, that I need to be on drugs until the rest of my life and there is no better.

 

When I was on lexapro I felt functional, but I still had anxiety and was always exhausted and did not care about anything.  If lexapro made me feel good in the past I would not hesitate to take it, but I know if i take it it will definitely help to function but i would still feel crappy.  I also tried other meds and they did not seem to work.  So do I stick it out?  Become a testing rat for another med or take lexapro and accept the not so good but functional feeling.  Please help :(

 

Any coping mechanisms? I cant even go to the gym I am so exhausted and dizzy.  I know exercise helps but I am scarred to have a panic attack or pass out there.  I tried looking for CBT therapist and most of the good ones do not take insurance and charge 300$ a session! that is insane.

 

Any advise would be greatly appreciated.  My heart goes out to all of you that are going through any of this.  


Edited by ChessieCat, 27 October 2016 - 06:39 PM.
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Lexapro 20 mg since 2007 until 2013 with various attempts to stop.  Most lasted 3 months, was forced to reinstate due to severe symptoms 

During 2013 found a new dr and started trying other medications:  Prozac, Notryptoline, Effexor, Buspar, Gabapentin, Paxil (each med about 2-4 months).  

MOI Nardil (about 1 year 2014-2015) which did help with anxiety, but caused ALOT of weight and had a food reaction that sent me to ER.  

Lexapro 10 mg 2015 -2016, few months 15 mg

Vibryiid 05/16-06/16 10-15 mg 

Started to withdraw from Vibryiid around mid June with last dose in early July 16.  Felt pretty good for the whole summer. Some anxiety, dizziness, short fuse, some weakness but okay overall. Comes October - dizziness, spinning, off balance feeling, FATIGUE, anxiety, fear, racing thoughts, insomnia, DP/DR

Reinstated 10/31/16 at 2.5 mg lexapro.  Some relief, sleep better, severe DP/DR decreased.  Still very anxious, exhausted, dizzy. 

Switched 12/26/16 Luvox 50 mg (25 mg am and 25 mg pm).  Dizziness, exhaustion, anxiety, sleeping ALOT 

1/13/17 switched to one dose of Luvox 50 mg before bed.  EXHAUSTED, sleeping ALOT, dizzy, weakness, off balance, anxiety 

1/20/17 Luvox 37.5 mg before bed

 

Supplements: iron, fish oil, vitamin D, methyl folate


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Posted 27 October 2016 - 06:37 PM

Hi Blondiee,

 

I moved your new topic so that your history stays together.  Please also add the new supplements that you have started taking to your signature.

 

Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization

 

Brain Remodelling


Video:  Healing From Antidepressants - Patterns of Recovery

 

I suggest you carefully re-read the About reinstating and stabilizing to reduce withdrawal symptoms.  Reinstate may or may not work.  Unfortunately we just don't know if it will or not.  All we can do is provide you with the information.  We cannot make the decision for you.  If you do decide to try a reinstatement please only try a very small dose.


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My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

 

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Posted 28 October 2016 - 04:29 AM

ChessieCat - thank you for the reply back . In how long do you usually feel if the reinstatement works (I know it depends on individual ) few days few weeks ? Also, I am not sure if I should try another med or do lexapro . The only reason I don't want to do lexapro is bc it made feel indifferent and very very tired :((( do you know if there is a liquid version is 5 mg too much ? ( last time I was on it I took 10) . Would you recommend being supervised by the doctor . I was going to reach out to my dr again but she does not think it is withdrawal :(

Lexapro 20 mg since 2007 until 2013 with various attempts to stop.  Most lasted 3 months, was forced to reinstate due to severe symptoms 

During 2013 found a new dr and started trying other medications:  Prozac, Notryptoline, Effexor, Buspar, Gabapentin, Paxil (each med about 2-4 months).  

MOI Nardil (about 1 year 2014-2015) which did help with anxiety, but caused ALOT of weight and had a food reaction that sent me to ER.  

Lexapro 10 mg 2015 -2016, few months 15 mg

Vibryiid 05/16-06/16 10-15 mg 

Started to withdraw from Vibryiid around mid June with last dose in early July 16.  Felt pretty good for the whole summer. Some anxiety, dizziness, short fuse, some weakness but okay overall. Comes October - dizziness, spinning, off balance feeling, FATIGUE, anxiety, fear, racing thoughts, insomnia, DP/DR

Reinstated 10/31/16 at 2.5 mg lexapro.  Some relief, sleep better, severe DP/DR decreased.  Still very anxious, exhausted, dizzy. 

Switched 12/26/16 Luvox 50 mg (25 mg am and 25 mg pm).  Dizziness, exhaustion, anxiety, sleeping ALOT 

1/13/17 switched to one dose of Luvox 50 mg before bed.  EXHAUSTED, sleeping ALOT, dizzy, weakness, off balance, anxiety 

1/20/17 Luvox 37.5 mg before bed

 

Supplements: iron, fish oil, vitamin D, methyl folate


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Posted 28 October 2016 - 07:49 AM

Hi Blondiee.  Reinstating is the only known way to minimize withdrawal symptoms. At about 3 months ( which is basically the cut off point) I would try a small reinstatement of perhaps  .5 - 1 mg Lexapro just to ease symptoms and stay functional.

 

After a lengthy stabilization period perhaps slowly taper using the 10 % taper method or you could even go slower.

 

The slowness of slow tapers

 

Micro-taper instead of 10% or 5% decreases

 

http://survivinganti...o-escitalopram/

 

Why taper by 10% of my dosage?

 

About reinstating and stabilizing to reduce withdrawal symptoms

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/3949-stabilizing-after-a-reduction-what-does-that-mean/

 

You are at that point, meaning that you can either possibly reinstate now or perhaps go through a long hard withdrawal.

Have a read of all the links and see what you think applies to your situation.

Ali


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Posted 28 October 2016 - 09:18 AM

Hi AliG . Thank you for the info . I am going to go to one of those walk in places and see if I can get a prescription of liquid lexapro . I will try 1 mg and see how it goes

Lexapro 20 mg since 2007 until 2013 with various attempts to stop.  Most lasted 3 months, was forced to reinstate due to severe symptoms 

During 2013 found a new dr and started trying other medications:  Prozac, Notryptoline, Effexor, Buspar, Gabapentin, Paxil (each med about 2-4 months).  

MOI Nardil (about 1 year 2014-2015) which did help with anxiety, but caused ALOT of weight and had a food reaction that sent me to ER.  

Lexapro 10 mg 2015 -2016, few months 15 mg

Vibryiid 05/16-06/16 10-15 mg 

Started to withdraw from Vibryiid around mid June with last dose in early July 16.  Felt pretty good for the whole summer. Some anxiety, dizziness, short fuse, some weakness but okay overall. Comes October - dizziness, spinning, off balance feeling, FATIGUE, anxiety, fear, racing thoughts, insomnia, DP/DR

Reinstated 10/31/16 at 2.5 mg lexapro.  Some relief, sleep better, severe DP/DR decreased.  Still very anxious, exhausted, dizzy. 

Switched 12/26/16 Luvox 50 mg (25 mg am and 25 mg pm).  Dizziness, exhaustion, anxiety, sleeping ALOT 

1/13/17 switched to one dose of Luvox 50 mg before bed.  EXHAUSTED, sleeping ALOT, dizzy, weakness, off balance, anxiety 

1/20/17 Luvox 37.5 mg before bed

 

Supplements: iron, fish oil, vitamin D, methyl folate


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Posted 28 October 2016 - 10:15 AM

Hi Blondiee1915,
I am going thru something similar, I am going off of lexapro too (and this is not the first time I tried to go off it it, either)

From what I have seen, reading a handful or so of the stories here, lexapro is one of the hardest drugs to get off of

 

as you will see in my signature, I just re instated after being off completely since May of this year. I am not sure why my withdrawal symptoms suddenly got so bad but I just couldn't tolerate them any more

 

I have the liquid and I took a TINY amnt- just one half of one TENTH of a mg!
It's possible to do if you get a syringe that is measured out in 1/10mgs - I get them for my pet rats. When I filled the prescription, I requested a new syringe and they gave me two, one that goes up to 3 or 4 mgs & the smaller one for the smaller doses

 

I personally, after all the time I've spent dealing with this damn drug, I personally would urge you to start at no more than 0.5mgs or less.

You can also go up if you need to, but if you start too high, and it makes this worse, then what?

I can not say for sure that I am having a MUCH better day today after just two days on that tiny tiny dose, that it's reinstated that has helped

or if it's the placebo effect- ??

or if I was just going to have a good window anyway (if you've read the "windows and waves" info you know that you'll have a bad period that's called a wave, interspersed with better times called windows)

but I am very glad that I only took the tiny amt.

 

I hate what lexapro did to me, it took away all my feelings, and I am just now getting those back

 

After all these months being off of it, I *really* did not want to be taking ANY of it ever again but if this helps get me thru the really bad spots it's worth it

 

 

that off balance feeling is very common in lexapro w/d.  I feel for you. It will go away but it looks like you tapered off very quickly, as i did (I am having a hard time reading so correct me if I"m wrong)  and it might be worth it to take a tiny tiny bit of the liquid

 

I switched off from cutting a 10mg pill up to taking the liquid and the liquid DOES seem to be stronger, so that's why I am suggesting you go for the smallest amnt that you can take.

 

I will check back with you in a few days, i'm only on day 2 of re instating, and let you know how I am doing but of course, we are all different, so "your results may vary"
Still, there are enough similarities in the symptoms and your history that maybe my experience will help you decide what might work for you.

 

I wish you luck and I hope things turn around for you soon

 

if you feel up to it, read my thread for the full story, it's a bit long but it's all there in order of what happened when LOL I am not good at summarizing and besides, you might find some useful tips there, who knows?


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2002-2015 on varying doses of lexapro, as  high as 40 mgs, but usually 20mgs

June 2015: tapered too fast to 2.5mgs, then to 2.5mgs every other day Dec 2015:  found SA forum; holding at 2.5mgs 

Early May 2016: jumped off at 2.5mgs, not smart- crashed in late Sept.

Oct 26 2016  reinstated liquid lexapro 0.05ml/day at night, dose +/- til settling on 0.15BID (0.3/day)= windows and waves

Jan 8, 2017 too quick switch to single dose in the morning, 0.3mgs (bad mistake, led to a crash)

Jan 12 added low dose zyprexa for SI, took infrequently as rescue med, last dose Feb.15

Jan 26 lexapro 0.27mg Feb 25 lexapro updose back to 0.3mg due to unrelenting severe insomnia

March 1 insomnia got worse, back down to 0.29 for one day, then 0.27, then 0.25- improving!! March 17 0.24

March 7 added low dose lamictal, titrated up to 25mgs March 25

Supplements: vit D-3, Magnesium taurate 250mg, chromium, pro-biotic, biotin, valerian root, L-theanine


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Posted 28 October 2016 - 10:54 AM

Catnapt - hi! Thank you for your post it made me feel a bit better . Knowing that others experience similar symptoms is helpful . When you were on lexapro did you feel' normal '? My biggest fear is that what if this is permanent bland the long term use brought this dizziness disbalance anxiety racing thoughts and that is who I am and I am sick and it will not get better . If I only had certainty that it will get better I would be much happier .... So happy work is almost over and I can go home . Hope you are having an okay day . Keep me posted on how you are doing with the liquid ❤️❤️❤️

Lexapro 20 mg since 2007 until 2013 with various attempts to stop.  Most lasted 3 months, was forced to reinstate due to severe symptoms 

During 2013 found a new dr and started trying other medications:  Prozac, Notryptoline, Effexor, Buspar, Gabapentin, Paxil (each med about 2-4 months).  

MOI Nardil (about 1 year 2014-2015) which did help with anxiety, but caused ALOT of weight and had a food reaction that sent me to ER.  

Lexapro 10 mg 2015 -2016, few months 15 mg

Vibryiid 05/16-06/16 10-15 mg 

Started to withdraw from Vibryiid around mid June with last dose in early July 16.  Felt pretty good for the whole summer. Some anxiety, dizziness, short fuse, some weakness but okay overall. Comes October - dizziness, spinning, off balance feeling, FATIGUE, anxiety, fear, racing thoughts, insomnia, DP/DR

Reinstated 10/31/16 at 2.5 mg lexapro.  Some relief, sleep better, severe DP/DR decreased.  Still very anxious, exhausted, dizzy. 

Switched 12/26/16 Luvox 50 mg (25 mg am and 25 mg pm).  Dizziness, exhaustion, anxiety, sleeping ALOT 

1/13/17 switched to one dose of Luvox 50 mg before bed.  EXHAUSTED, sleeping ALOT, dizzy, weakness, off balance, anxiety 

1/20/17 Luvox 37.5 mg before bed

 

Supplements: iron, fish oil, vitamin D, methyl folate


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Posted 28 October 2016 - 11:41 AM

Catnapt - hi! Thank you for your post it made me feel a bit better . Knowing that others experience similar symptoms is helpful . When you were on lexapro did you feel' normal '? My biggest fear is that what if this is permanent bland the long term use brought this dizziness disbalance anxiety racing thoughts and that is who I am and I am sick and it will not get better . If I only had certainty that it will get better I would be much happier .... So happy work is almost over and I can go home . Hope you are having an okay day . Keep me posted on how you are doing with the liquid ❤️❤️❤️

 

 

When I was on lexapro, I did not feel normal, no.  I felt detached from the world, I had no emotions stuff like that. I felt like nothing was real and that nothing mattered. It wasnt' like a depression, more like apathy but not really, because feeling that way bothered me. plus I slept a LOT. I could lie down at any time of day or night and fall asleep, regardless of how much sleep I'd already had (now going thru WD, i sleep at most for 90 mins at time before waking up but it's getting better)

 

When i was put on lexapro, I was already on celexa, the first version of the drug, and when the "new and improved,slightly different but much stronger" Lexapro hit the market, my doc switched me to that.

 

Initially I was very happy with the switch because there were very few side effects compared to the celexa. I had severe nausea with celexa and head aches and neck pain and sweating and yawning.

But over time, I lost all my feelings and would sleep an incredible amount of time each day, up to 20hrs and I never felt rested. I would complain to my PCP (lost my psychiatrist and have no interest in ever seeing another one!) My PCP would insist that I must be depressed and try to get me to a psychiatrist. Thank god I did not do that, I would have been put on a different med most surely! and taken off the lexapro too fast as well. It would have been MUCH worse. I am extremely grateful that I found this website and learned about the proper way to get off these meds.

 

 

I doubt that any of the effects of this drug are permanent (with the POSSIBLE exception of sexual side effects, but I won't go into that as it's more then my tired brain can handle right now and I honestly do not KNOW - I just recall seeing some discussions about that topic)

 

so anyway, you will heal, your brain will heal and you will be back to your pre drug self, I truly believe that and it appears to be borne out by the evidence and the success stories here and elsewhere, so don't stress about that. or try not to! easier said than done, I know!!

 

I was very very eager to be free of this damn drug forever but now I am kinda regretting going as fast as I did. I had a period when things were manageable and now, they are not so manageable.

 

I have been reading other threads by ppl going off lexapro like us, and it seems to be a common thing that when you hit the 2.5 mg area, you actually start to have more problems going down, and not less.

That sucks BUT Its good to know, so you can plan ahead

 

I felt like it was a kind of failure to be having more trouble now than I did at first, but now I see it's got nothing to do with me, or my will power, or anything else.

it's just the way this damn drug works in our brains.

 

it sucks but we'll get thru it!!

 

I really think you did go down too fast and considering the symptoms you are having, my feeling is that a reinstatement at the lowest possible dose might be the only thing that really helps.

 

Any time I had symptoms that intense, I had to go back on it, only at the time, I did NOT know about proper tapering. IF I had  known that back then, I would have gone back on a much smaller dose.

 

as it turned out, I did just that over the past year or so but not because I knew it was the right thing to do, but because I was desperate, but un willing to go back to sleeping my life away.

 

You will get thru this and we will be here with you every step of the way.

 

I hope that you can get the liquid lexapro, I think it will help.

after what I've gone thru, and seen others go thru, on this particular drug, I would not recommend trying to tough it out.

It can go ok for awhile, but then it seems to get bad, and really bad (esp at the lower doses, as I mentioned)

I am glad your work day is about done (or done now) I hope you have a good weekend

 

My other advice is to try to keep things in your life as stable as you can. Obviously there are some things we have no control over, but don't be like me, and add a bunch of new activities all at once or something like that LOL
I think that me doing that, made my WD go bad.

I am now being very careful to keep as many things the same as possibe. Same doses of supplements, keep my diet stable, remember to breathe, take epsom salt baths when you get anxious, sleep when you feel you can, even if it's not at night. and Esp if you are having trouble sleeping at night.

 

stuff like that. feel free to private message me. If you dont' hear back from me in a day or so, please don't be upset, sometimes I have to take a break from the computer but I will always answer eventually.


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2002-2015 on varying doses of lexapro, as  high as 40 mgs, but usually 20mgs

June 2015: tapered too fast to 2.5mgs, then to 2.5mgs every other day Dec 2015:  found SA forum; holding at 2.5mgs 

Early May 2016: jumped off at 2.5mgs, not smart- crashed in late Sept.

Oct 26 2016  reinstated liquid lexapro 0.05ml/day at night, dose +/- til settling on 0.15BID (0.3/day)= windows and waves

Jan 8, 2017 too quick switch to single dose in the morning, 0.3mgs (bad mistake, led to a crash)

Jan 12 added low dose zyprexa for SI, took infrequently as rescue med, last dose Feb.15

Jan 26 lexapro 0.27mg Feb 25 lexapro updose back to 0.3mg due to unrelenting severe insomnia

March 1 insomnia got worse, back down to 0.29 for one day, then 0.27, then 0.25- improving!! March 17 0.24

March 7 added low dose lamictal, titrated up to 25mgs March 25

Supplements: vit D-3, Magnesium taurate 250mg, chromium, pro-biotic, biotin, valerian root, L-theanine


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Posted 30 October 2016 - 10:17 AM

I need advice please. 

I decided to reinstate.  I have too many racing thoughts, upset with this dizziness and very detached that I am scared to go anywhere :( Today is Sunday and I have an appointment with my doctor on Wednesday.  I have some lexapro and was wondering if it will be a good idea to reinstate myself tonight (take a half of 5 mg pill).  I am scared to go to work tomorrow :( Maybe I should take xanax and suck it up and try my best until Wednesday.  


Lexapro 20 mg since 2007 until 2013 with various attempts to stop.  Most lasted 3 months, was forced to reinstate due to severe symptoms 

During 2013 found a new dr and started trying other medications:  Prozac, Notryptoline, Effexor, Buspar, Gabapentin, Paxil (each med about 2-4 months).  

MOI Nardil (about 1 year 2014-2015) which did help with anxiety, but caused ALOT of weight and had a food reaction that sent me to ER.  

Lexapro 10 mg 2015 -2016, few months 15 mg

Vibryiid 05/16-06/16 10-15 mg 

Started to withdraw from Vibryiid around mid June with last dose in early July 16.  Felt pretty good for the whole summer. Some anxiety, dizziness, short fuse, some weakness but okay overall. Comes October - dizziness, spinning, off balance feeling, FATIGUE, anxiety, fear, racing thoughts, insomnia, DP/DR

Reinstated 10/31/16 at 2.5 mg lexapro.  Some relief, sleep better, severe DP/DR decreased.  Still very anxious, exhausted, dizzy. 

Switched 12/26/16 Luvox 50 mg (25 mg am and 25 mg pm).  Dizziness, exhaustion, anxiety, sleeping ALOT 

1/13/17 switched to one dose of Luvox 50 mg before bed.  EXHAUSTED, sleeping ALOT, dizzy, weakness, off balance, anxiety 

1/20/17 Luvox 37.5 mg before bed

 

Supplements: iron, fish oil, vitamin D, methyl folate


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Posted 30 October 2016 - 11:12 AM

Hi Blondiee.  Reinstating is the only known way to minimize withdrawal symptoms. At about 3 months ( which is basically the cut off point) I would try a small reinstatement of perhaps  .5 - 1 mg Lexapro just to ease symptoms and stay functional.

 

After a lengthy stabilization period perhaps slowly taper using the 10 % taper method or you could even go slower.

 

The slowness of slow tapers

 

Micro-taper instead of 10% or 5% decreases

 

http://survivinganti...o-escitalopram/

 

Why taper by 10% of my dosage?

 

About reinstating and stabilizing to reduce withdrawal symptoms

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/3949-stabilizing-after-a-reduction-what-does-that-mean/

 

You are at that point, meaning that you can either possibly reinstate now or perhaps go through a long hard withdrawal.

Have a read of all the links and see what you think applies to your situation.

Ali

 

You can make your own liquid if you have some Lexapro left. All you need is a syringe and a small jar. You can start with 1:1 ratio: for instance 10 mg in 10 ml of water and draw out 1 ml to get 1 mg.

 

A lot of us have been through this. It is hard but you will make it. I regret that I reinstated a high dose of Lexapro because now I have much longer tapering. Reinstating a too high dose after some time off can cause worsening of symptoms. That's why reinstating a small dose is so important. I would try to do whatever I can to reduce the workload.

 

Good luck.


Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 (19 yrs)
1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg.
2000.-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg
went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days after
reinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding, significant relief after 2 weeks
9.11. introduced liquid Xanax: 0.4 mg every 5 hours including a night dose

28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr  2015 1 mg,  25 June Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6 and 1 Jan 2016 0.64  Xanax

9 month hold

24 Sept 4.​5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2 Lex, 5 Feb 4.1 Lex

Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic 

I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. 


#26 Blondiee1915

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Posted 30 October 2016 - 11:29 AM

Hi bubble thank you for your reply . What the reinstatement depend on the dose that I was on before . I think I was on 10 mg or 5 mg I can't remember now . So if it was a higher dose does this mean the reinstatement need to be higher ? ?

Lexapro 20 mg since 2007 until 2013 with various attempts to stop.  Most lasted 3 months, was forced to reinstate due to severe symptoms 

During 2013 found a new dr and started trying other medications:  Prozac, Notryptoline, Effexor, Buspar, Gabapentin, Paxil (each med about 2-4 months).  

MOI Nardil (about 1 year 2014-2015) which did help with anxiety, but caused ALOT of weight and had a food reaction that sent me to ER.  

Lexapro 10 mg 2015 -2016, few months 15 mg

Vibryiid 05/16-06/16 10-15 mg 

Started to withdraw from Vibryiid around mid June with last dose in early July 16.  Felt pretty good for the whole summer. Some anxiety, dizziness, short fuse, some weakness but okay overall. Comes October - dizziness, spinning, off balance feeling, FATIGUE, anxiety, fear, racing thoughts, insomnia, DP/DR

Reinstated 10/31/16 at 2.5 mg lexapro.  Some relief, sleep better, severe DP/DR decreased.  Still very anxious, exhausted, dizzy. 

Switched 12/26/16 Luvox 50 mg (25 mg am and 25 mg pm).  Dizziness, exhaustion, anxiety, sleeping ALOT 

1/13/17 switched to one dose of Luvox 50 mg before bed.  EXHAUSTED, sleeping ALOT, dizzy, weakness, off balance, anxiety 

1/20/17 Luvox 37.5 mg before bed

 

Supplements: iron, fish oil, vitamin D, methyl folate


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Posted 30 October 2016 - 11:41 AM

Your signature says you were on 10 mg. But that's not so important at the moment. What matters most is that you were off the drug for 3 months so we won't to minimise the possibility of a bad reaction. In those 3 months your brain has done quite a bit of adjustment and is in a very sensitive state so we must treat it gently. You can always updose later on. More is not better in this situation.

 

I recognize those symptoms of Lexapro withdrawal and before that I was off another AD for 3 months and things were progressively getting worse so you are making the right decision.

 

Just ask as many questions as you need to and let us know how you are doing.


Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 (19 yrs)
1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg.
2000.-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg
went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days after
reinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding, significant relief after 2 weeks
9.11. introduced liquid Xanax: 0.4 mg every 5 hours including a night dose

28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr  2015 1 mg,  25 June Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6 and 1 Jan 2016 0.64  Xanax

9 month hold

24 Sept 4.​5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2 Lex, 5 Feb 4.1 Lex

Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic 

I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. 


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Posted 30 October 2016 - 11:54 AM

Hi Bubble,

 

That makes perfect sense.  I have to convince my doctor to start me very low like 2 mg or even lower.  She will probably say this is anxiety and I have to be on drugs for the rest of my life and this is too low of a dosage.  She says side effects are all gone by month 3. But I need prescription so will try to do my best with her so that I can just get a prescription.  

 

I will report back once I start on Wednesday 

 

Thank you again 


Lexapro 20 mg since 2007 until 2013 with various attempts to stop.  Most lasted 3 months, was forced to reinstate due to severe symptoms 

During 2013 found a new dr and started trying other medications:  Prozac, Notryptoline, Effexor, Buspar, Gabapentin, Paxil (each med about 2-4 months).  

MOI Nardil (about 1 year 2014-2015) which did help with anxiety, but caused ALOT of weight and had a food reaction that sent me to ER.  

Lexapro 10 mg 2015 -2016, few months 15 mg

Vibryiid 05/16-06/16 10-15 mg 

Started to withdraw from Vibryiid around mid June with last dose in early July 16.  Felt pretty good for the whole summer. Some anxiety, dizziness, short fuse, some weakness but okay overall. Comes October - dizziness, spinning, off balance feeling, FATIGUE, anxiety, fear, racing thoughts, insomnia, DP/DR

Reinstated 10/31/16 at 2.5 mg lexapro.  Some relief, sleep better, severe DP/DR decreased.  Still very anxious, exhausted, dizzy. 

Switched 12/26/16 Luvox 50 mg (25 mg am and 25 mg pm).  Dizziness, exhaustion, anxiety, sleeping ALOT 

1/13/17 switched to one dose of Luvox 50 mg before bed.  EXHAUSTED, sleeping ALOT, dizzy, weakness, off balance, anxiety 

1/20/17 Luvox 37.5 mg before bed

 

Supplements: iron, fish oil, vitamin D, methyl folate


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Posted 30 October 2016 - 12:03 PM

I gave up trying to persuade doctors especially psychiatrists. I don't have the energy for that.

 

You can just say that you want to start back on the drug and she will be happy. How much you take is up to you. Our moderator's Brass doctor still things he is taking 40 mgs or something like that and he is almost off.


Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 (19 yrs)
1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg.
2000.-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg
went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days after
reinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding, significant relief after 2 weeks
9.11. introduced liquid Xanax: 0.4 mg every 5 hours including a night dose

28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr  2015 1 mg,  25 June Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6 and 1 Jan 2016 0.64  Xanax

9 month hold

24 Sept 4.​5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2 Lex, 5 Feb 4.1 Lex

Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic 

I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. 


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Posted 30 October 2016 - 12:07 PM

I gave up trying to persuade doctors especially psychiatrists. I don't have the energy for that.

 

You can just say that you want to start back on the drug and she will be happy. How much you take is up to you. Our moderator's Brass doctor still things he is taking 40 mgs or something like that and he is almost off.

yep me too, the last doc to Rx a prescription for me thinks I was gonna take 2.5mgs for a month and then just stop :/

 

she couldn't understand why I was taking any at all, because, according to her, a dose that low "had no effect at all"

 

*sigh*


1974-2002 many psych meds, all types; longest used drugs include lithium, seroquel, SSRI's zoloft & celexa; many CT's off drugs

2002-2015 on varying doses of lexapro, as  high as 40 mgs, but usually 20mgs

June 2015: tapered too fast to 2.5mgs, then to 2.5mgs every other day Dec 2015:  found SA forum; holding at 2.5mgs 

Early May 2016: jumped off at 2.5mgs, not smart- crashed in late Sept.

Oct 26 2016  reinstated liquid lexapro 0.05ml/day at night, dose +/- til settling on 0.15BID (0.3/day)= windows and waves

Jan 8, 2017 too quick switch to single dose in the morning, 0.3mgs (bad mistake, led to a crash)

Jan 12 added low dose zyprexa for SI, took infrequently as rescue med, last dose Feb.15

Jan 26 lexapro 0.27mg Feb 25 lexapro updose back to 0.3mg due to unrelenting severe insomnia

March 1 insomnia got worse, back down to 0.29 for one day, then 0.27, then 0.25- improving!! March 17 0.24

March 7 added low dose lamictal, titrated up to 25mgs March 25

Supplements: vit D-3, Magnesium taurate 250mg, chromium, pro-biotic, biotin, valerian root, L-theanine


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Posted 30 October 2016 - 02:24 PM

Hi Bubble,
 
That makes perfect sense.  I have to convince my doctor to start me very low like 2 mg or even lower.  She will probably say this is anxiety and I have to be on drugs for the rest of my life and this is too low of a dosage.  She says side effects are all gone by month 3. But I need prescription so will try to do my best with her so that I can just get a prescription.  
 
I will report back once I start on Wednesday 
 
Thank you again


Your doctor is so clueless. These side effects don't go away. They just get worse until you realise they've ruined your life and years have been lost to them.

I've been tapering Lexapro for over a year now. I went way too fast at first, and experienced every withdrawal symptom. Anxiety, depression, dizziness, nausea, akathesia, depersonalization, derealization, fatigue, headache, you name it. They've all come, gone, come again with less intensity and left again.

Don't believe what your withdrawal brain is telling you. NONE of this is permanent. Healing does happen. I know. I've seen it.

Whether you reinstate or not at whatever dosage you decide on know this - You CAN get off this stuff. You CAN regain most, if not all of what you've lost. Trust me. You'll be amazed.

Peace, love and healing.

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Lexapro 40 mg - 2004-2013 30 mg 2013 - August 2015 20 mg August 2015- September 2015 15 mg September 2015 - October 2015 10 mg October 2015 -Nov. 1 2015. Nov. 2015 increased dose to 12.5 mg to stabilize. Dec. 28 2015 11.25 mg March 29, 2016 10 mg. August 1, 2016 9 mg. October 23, 2016 8.1 mg. Nov. 29, 2016 7.5 mg

 

Depakote 1000 mg 2008-2013  750 2013-Dec 2015 500 mg Dec 2015 to Feb 2, 2016. Sopped completely Feb 2 2016.

 

Adderall 40mg 2004-Feb 29, 2016. Feb 29,2016 - reduced Adderall to 20 mg based on pdoc's recommendations. March 29, 2016 - Reduced Adderall to 15 mg. April 30 reduced Adderall to 10 mgs. May 28, 2016 reduced Adderall to 5 mgs.June 8, 2016 stopped taking Adderall due to extreme agitation.

 

Amphetamine 20mg 2008 - 1/16. 1/16 - Stopped Amphetamine completely because pdoc did not renew script.

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Posted 30 October 2016 - 02:55 PM

I accepted the fact that this is what my doctor thinks and there is no changing her opinion.  She is the doctor she knows best, right ? My plan is to tell her I want to start very slow and get liquid.  She knows I am sensitive so hopefully will prescribe liquid no questions asked.  I just hope I will feel some sort of relief on a small dosage and I don't have to go up again. Fatigue, exhaustion, indifference and empathy, but no racing thoughts, detachment feeling, will all come with lexapro


Lexapro 20 mg since 2007 until 2013 with various attempts to stop.  Most lasted 3 months, was forced to reinstate due to severe symptoms 

During 2013 found a new dr and started trying other medications:  Prozac, Notryptoline, Effexor, Buspar, Gabapentin, Paxil (each med about 2-4 months).  

MOI Nardil (about 1 year 2014-2015) which did help with anxiety, but caused ALOT of weight and had a food reaction that sent me to ER.  

Lexapro 10 mg 2015 -2016, few months 15 mg

Vibryiid 05/16-06/16 10-15 mg 

Started to withdraw from Vibryiid around mid June with last dose in early July 16.  Felt pretty good for the whole summer. Some anxiety, dizziness, short fuse, some weakness but okay overall. Comes October - dizziness, spinning, off balance feeling, FATIGUE, anxiety, fear, racing thoughts, insomnia, DP/DR

Reinstated 10/31/16 at 2.5 mg lexapro.  Some relief, sleep better, severe DP/DR decreased.  Still very anxious, exhausted, dizzy. 

Switched 12/26/16 Luvox 50 mg (25 mg am and 25 mg pm).  Dizziness, exhaustion, anxiety, sleeping ALOT 

1/13/17 switched to one dose of Luvox 50 mg before bed.  EXHAUSTED, sleeping ALOT, dizzy, weakness, off balance, anxiety 

1/20/17 Luvox 37.5 mg before bed

 

Supplements: iron, fish oil, vitamin D, methyl folate


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Posted 30 October 2016 - 03:33 PM

I accepted the fact that this is what my doctor thinks and there is no changing her opinion.  She is the doctor she knows best, right ? My plan is to tell her I want to start very slow and get liquid.  She knows I am sensitive so hopefully will prescribe liquid no questions asked.  I just hope I will feel some sort of relief on a small dosage and I don't have to go up again. Fatigue, exhaustion, indifference and empathy, but no racing thoughts, detachment feeling, will all come with lexapro

 

 

I would not assume that you will get all the effects of lexapro that you found troublesome, at a lower dose. You might, but you might not

I just re instated at a tiny dose and so far, it's been only a good experience. The horrible WD symptoms I was experiencing have improved dramatically (just about to update my thread)

 

the only tiny thing that has not been positive was that I was a wee bit off balance when I got up in the middle of the night to use the bathroom, but it lasted literally seconds.
Compare that to day after day of panic attacks, severe anxiety, insomnia, etc and I'll so glad I reinstated.
I'm also glad I used such a tiny dose.

 

I have increased from 0.2mgs to 0.1mgs (1/10 of a mg) and hope that I can stay at this tiny dose, but if, after a few days of letting this settle, I start to have those intolerable WD symptoms again, I can go up a tiny bit more if need be.

 

I honestly wish I hadn't waited so long but I didn't realize what was happening til things were super bad. I just kept trying to ignore it, hoping it would go away.  Now I know that paying attention to symptoms is not the same as ruminating on them!! LOL

 

I hope that your doc gives you the liquid, it's a lot easier to dose than cutting up the pills. I did the pills cut up for awhile and then tried crushing them and adding them to water, but they solids would sink to the bottom of the liquid so fast that it was very hard to get an accurate dose.

the liquid is in a suspension that keeps everything evenly distributed

 

good luck!!


1974-2002 many psych meds, all types; longest used drugs include lithium, seroquel, SSRI's zoloft & celexa; many CT's off drugs

2002-2015 on varying doses of lexapro, as  high as 40 mgs, but usually 20mgs

June 2015: tapered too fast to 2.5mgs, then to 2.5mgs every other day Dec 2015:  found SA forum; holding at 2.5mgs 

Early May 2016: jumped off at 2.5mgs, not smart- crashed in late Sept.

Oct 26 2016  reinstated liquid lexapro 0.05ml/day at night, dose +/- til settling on 0.15BID (0.3/day)= windows and waves

Jan 8, 2017 too quick switch to single dose in the morning, 0.3mgs (bad mistake, led to a crash)

Jan 12 added low dose zyprexa for SI, took infrequently as rescue med, last dose Feb.15

Jan 26 lexapro 0.27mg Feb 25 lexapro updose back to 0.3mg due to unrelenting severe insomnia

March 1 insomnia got worse, back down to 0.29 for one day, then 0.27, then 0.25- improving!! March 17 0.24

March 7 added low dose lamictal, titrated up to 25mgs March 25

Supplements: vit D-3, Magnesium taurate 250mg, chromium, pro-biotic, biotin, valerian root, L-theanine


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Posted 01 November 2016 - 03:22 PM

Reinstated lexapro October 31 at 2.5 mg . No changes noted yet . Headache and brain fog since last week no improvement

Lexapro 20 mg since 2007 until 2013 with various attempts to stop.  Most lasted 3 months, was forced to reinstate due to severe symptoms 

During 2013 found a new dr and started trying other medications:  Prozac, Notryptoline, Effexor, Buspar, Gabapentin, Paxil (each med about 2-4 months).  

MOI Nardil (about 1 year 2014-2015) which did help with anxiety, but caused ALOT of weight and had a food reaction that sent me to ER.  

Lexapro 10 mg 2015 -2016, few months 15 mg

Vibryiid 05/16-06/16 10-15 mg 

Started to withdraw from Vibryiid around mid June with last dose in early July 16.  Felt pretty good for the whole summer. Some anxiety, dizziness, short fuse, some weakness but okay overall. Comes October - dizziness, spinning, off balance feeling, FATIGUE, anxiety, fear, racing thoughts, insomnia, DP/DR

Reinstated 10/31/16 at 2.5 mg lexapro.  Some relief, sleep better, severe DP/DR decreased.  Still very anxious, exhausted, dizzy. 

Switched 12/26/16 Luvox 50 mg (25 mg am and 25 mg pm).  Dizziness, exhaustion, anxiety, sleeping ALOT 

1/13/17 switched to one dose of Luvox 50 mg before bed.  EXHAUSTED, sleeping ALOT, dizzy, weakness, off balance, anxiety 

1/20/17 Luvox 37.5 mg before bed

 

Supplements: iron, fish oil, vitamin D, methyl folate


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Posted 01 November 2016 - 03:35 PM

hang in there, I hope this works for you!! 

are you still feeling off balance? and dizzy?


1974-2002 many psych meds, all types; longest used drugs include lithium, seroquel, SSRI's zoloft & celexa; many CT's off drugs

2002-2015 on varying doses of lexapro, as  high as 40 mgs, but usually 20mgs

June 2015: tapered too fast to 2.5mgs, then to 2.5mgs every other day Dec 2015:  found SA forum; holding at 2.5mgs 

Early May 2016: jumped off at 2.5mgs, not smart- crashed in late Sept.

Oct 26 2016  reinstated liquid lexapro 0.05ml/day at night, dose +/- til settling on 0.15BID (0.3/day)= windows and waves

Jan 8, 2017 too quick switch to single dose in the morning, 0.3mgs (bad mistake, led to a crash)

Jan 12 added low dose zyprexa for SI, took infrequently as rescue med, last dose Feb.15

Jan 26 lexapro 0.27mg Feb 25 lexapro updose back to 0.3mg due to unrelenting severe insomnia

March 1 insomnia got worse, back down to 0.29 for one day, then 0.27, then 0.25- improving!! March 17 0.24

March 7 added low dose lamictal, titrated up to 25mgs March 25

Supplements: vit D-3, Magnesium taurate 250mg, chromium, pro-biotic, biotin, valerian root, L-theanine


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Posted 01 November 2016 - 03:38 PM

Yea, still the same . I slept better last night though so hopefully will be ok tonight too

Lexapro 20 mg since 2007 until 2013 with various attempts to stop.  Most lasted 3 months, was forced to reinstate due to severe symptoms 

During 2013 found a new dr and started trying other medications:  Prozac, Notryptoline, Effexor, Buspar, Gabapentin, Paxil (each med about 2-4 months).  

MOI Nardil (about 1 year 2014-2015) which did help with anxiety, but caused ALOT of weight and had a food reaction that sent me to ER.  

Lexapro 10 mg 2015 -2016, few months 15 mg

Vibryiid 05/16-06/16 10-15 mg 

Started to withdraw from Vibryiid around mid June with last dose in early July 16.  Felt pretty good for the whole summer. Some anxiety, dizziness, short fuse, some weakness but okay overall. Comes October - dizziness, spinning, off balance feeling, FATIGUE, anxiety, fear, racing thoughts, insomnia, DP/DR

Reinstated 10/31/16 at 2.5 mg lexapro.  Some relief, sleep better, severe DP/DR decreased.  Still very anxious, exhausted, dizzy. 

Switched 12/26/16 Luvox 50 mg (25 mg am and 25 mg pm).  Dizziness, exhaustion, anxiety, sleeping ALOT 

1/13/17 switched to one dose of Luvox 50 mg before bed.  EXHAUSTED, sleeping ALOT, dizzy, weakness, off balance, anxiety 

1/20/17 Luvox 37.5 mg before bed

 

Supplements: iron, fish oil, vitamin D, methyl folate






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