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Simo: Olanzapine/Zyprexa withdrawal

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#37 Madeleine

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 08:50 AM

What is making you consider doing this? Your impatience?  (I can understand that, I wish I was off this drug too and find I get impatient.) You're not that far from the finish line.  It is not wise in my opinion to jeopardize your health.

 

My plan is to stay a bit longer on 4.5 (I'm shaving off a tiny bit of the 5 mg. Then, to go down to 3.75 for a bit, then 2.50, then 1.875, then 1.25, then even .625.  I doubt I will do each cut for a month, as I've only been on it since the beginning of December.


March 15/2017: 3.75 zyprexa; January 16/2017: 6.25 mg; down from 10 mg December 2016
200 zoloft. Tapering that next.


#38 Simo

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 10:24 AM

Hi 

Madeleine

 

Yes that was desperate/ impatient thinking and talking.  I had been on my own for a few hours and started to panic; i'm really not very good on my own at the moment.

 

I've calmed down a bit and am back on the withdrawal process.  I'm now cutting out caffeine and nicotine which seem to send me into intense anxiety.

 

You're right : i must try not to lose sight of the fact that I'm not too far away from the finish line.  This process is so hard, because I'm not in a position to work or do very much even on this small amount of drug I find it very hard to get through the days.

 

I think i might have to make an oral solution of a smaller dose, possibly 0.4 and 0.2mg's. And I possibly should buy some micro scales to measure a dose of 1mg etc.


Struggling with Olanzapine / Zyprexa withdrawal. Failed withdrawal attempt in November 2016, which resulted in me reinstating at 10mg's.

2017
4/1 - 9/1: 10mg.  10/1 - 19/1: 7.5mg.   20/1 - 26/1: 6.25mg.   27/1 - 2/2: 5mg.   3/2 - 10/2: 3.75mg. 12/2 - 14/2: 3.75mg. 15/2 - 28/2: 3.15mg.   01/3 - present: 2.5mg


#39 Junglechicken

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 10:34 AM

Well done Simo, and BTW we're ALL on a learning curve in WD.

 

You've made a huge leap in learning how you react in certain situations, i.e. being alone put you into an anxious state and made you want to CT.

 

Madeleine made a good point which was that you're not far from your finishing line.

 

View this as your "project", to take yourself safely off this poison once and for all.

 

You're almost there....... :) 


Feb 2014 -Cipralex/Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms disappeared over a few days. Have been on this dose ever since and am experiencing "windows" and "waves". Nov 15th 2016 Re-started Therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT. Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 4th Jan 2017. Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment starts - anti-Candida diet starts as diagnosis of Systemic Candida. 24 March 2017 DETOX started for anti-Candida to help "re-set" my gut. April 2017 Gut Cleanse - 6 weeks.
Plan to re-start taper (liquid Cipralex/Escitalopram)


#40 scallywag

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 08:22 PM

Well done indeed, Simo.  I'm very glad you gave yourself time to seriously consider the risks of cold-turkey off the Zyprexa right now.

 

Thanks Madeleine for your post -- really helpful.


This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.
1997-1999 Effexor; 2002-2005 Effexor XR 37.5 mg linear taper, dropping same #beads/week with bad results
Cymbalta (brand name), 60 mg 2012 - 2015; 20 mg to 7 mg in 2016, taper details in this post;
2017: 6.3 (58 beads) Feb. 1; 5.6 mg (52) Feb. 22; 5.4 mg (50) Mar. 15;
Current dose: 5.1 mg (47 beads) 2017-Mar-25
+ Supplements: fish oil (1500 mg EPA/500 mg DHA), Vitamins: D3, K2, C; Minerals: Mg, Se, Cr, I, V
scallywag's Introduction
Online spreadsheet for dose taper calculations and nz11's THE WORKS spreadsheet


#41 herewego

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Posted 28 February 2017 - 04:16 PM

Hi Simo,
I too am tapering olanzapine. I've read in the tapering olanzapine thread that the liquid solution lasts in the fridge for 48 hrs. So if you take it at the same time every day - day 1 at 0 hours, day 2 at 24 hrs and day 3 at 48 hrs so you can get 3 days of doses each time you make it.
I have made a rough schedule for coming off but I am going by how I feel. Not strictly according to a schedule. That way I avoid most withdrawal symptoms. As you get to lower amounts the drug affects you less so oh well if it takes some years to come off as long as I feel fairly well while I am doing it. I make small cuts and wait till I am sleeping well again before making another cut.
How are you doing? I hope well.
Medicine History
June 2011 I was put on 10 mg Olanzapine. I stayed on that for 7 months then went down to 5 mg for 3 months and then went down to 2.5mg and slowly went down to less than .3 every few days. I have tried to come off 4 times, each time getting down to less than .3 before having to go back on at 5mg or 2.5mg. I would cut by 50% each taper. From Jan 2015 to June 2015 I reduced from about 5mg to .3 mg. This last time I went on 2.5 mg last June 2015 until July 2, 2016. July 3, 2016 I went down to 1.25mg - withdrawal hit. Up dosed to liquid 2 mg July 23, 2016.
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2 mg Olanzapine as of July 23, 2016
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Omega 3 1000mg, Vitamin E 400 UI, Vitamin C 1000 mg Time Released, 200 mg Magnesium Bisglycinate, Multi Probiotic, .25 mg melatonin for 3-5 days as needed

#42 Simo

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Posted 16 March 2017 - 11:28 AM

Hi Everyone,

 

Just a message to anyone out there who's successfully come off Neuroleptics.  I'm down to 2.5mg Olanzapine/ Zyprexa and have been on that for 15 days, but I'm getting very frustrated and impatient. Looking for some support.

 

I've just had to give up caffeine and cigarettes (a bad habit i acquired when so drugged up I couldn't feel anything). Giving these up will be difficult because they have been a "crutch " these last few months when I still felt heavily drugged.

 

My central nervous system is shot! Caffeine and nicotine just make me incredibly wired and i was never like that pre psych drugs.


Struggling with Olanzapine / Zyprexa withdrawal. Failed withdrawal attempt in November 2016, which resulted in me reinstating at 10mg's.

2017
4/1 - 9/1: 10mg.  10/1 - 19/1: 7.5mg.   20/1 - 26/1: 6.25mg.   27/1 - 2/2: 5mg.   3/2 - 10/2: 3.75mg. 12/2 - 14/2: 3.75mg. 15/2 - 28/2: 3.15mg.   01/3 - present: 2.5mg


#43 scallywag

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Posted 18 March 2017 - 11:01 AM

Your CNS is already dealing with changes in a neuroactive substance, making dramatic changes with another one -- caffeine or nicotine -- could be tricky. If you feel strongly about needing to reduce, please pick ONLY one -- caffeine OR cigarettes -- not both.

I tapered caffeine in October and November. If coffee is how you get your caffeine AND you make your coffee yourself, tapering is fairly easy to do: start with 20% decaf 80% regular for a week or so, then increase the decaf by 20% each time. Some people prefer the shorter time that a cold-turkey stop requires

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.
1997-1999 Effexor; 2002-2005 Effexor XR 37.5 mg linear taper, dropping same #beads/week with bad results
Cymbalta (brand name), 60 mg 2012 - 2015; 20 mg to 7 mg in 2016, taper details in this post;
2017: 6.3 (58 beads) Feb. 1; 5.6 mg (52) Feb. 22; 5.4 mg (50) Mar. 15;
Current dose: 5.1 mg (47 beads) 2017-Mar-25
+ Supplements: fish oil (1500 mg EPA/500 mg DHA), Vitamins: D3, K2, C; Minerals: Mg, Se, Cr, I, V
scallywag's Introduction
Online spreadsheet for dose taper calculations and nz11's THE WORKS spreadsheet


#44 chester

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 04:19 PM

Hi simo

 

Im glad to read you are going well with your taper , i too was on high dose of olanzapine its one nasty drug, i really relate to what you said about time passing like treacle, for a year i stumbled out of bed every day, went straight to kitchen and would remain there just pacing up and down until it was time to go back to bed, day after day after day just physically couldnt do anything else due to olanzapine.

 

Things really do get better though, and i cant recommend the exercise enough, it might take 2-3 weeks of doing something everyday but eventually the lift you get is so worth it.

 

Stick with it and best of luck 


dec 2014 - oct 2017 20mg zyprexa, oct 2017 - feb 2017 tapered zyprexa by 25% a month

feb 2014 - mar 2016 several different mood stabilisers dont remember dates or doses, lyrica, lustral,lamictal,lithium,seroquel quit ct on most or switched from one to another due to adverse reactions or no improvements.

mar 2016 - mar 8th 2017 1000mg epilim quit ct ( i know its a bad idea but im going to stick it out now if i can)

currently on no medication 






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