Did you hear the Donald attack pharma at the inauguration.
NZ. I haven't had time to watch it yet. Just to clarify - what did he say exactly ?
I'm not NZ but have been watching news media of diverse points of view, as well as the inaugural address itself, day and night today, and unless I missed something, the answer to your question, Ali, is "Nothing."
If I am mistaken and somehow missed it repeatedly, please cite a source where we can actually hear Trump speak the words, and I will apologize for my error.
But about this and the OP... Welcome to the post-truth world, folks. I hope to God not too many people who suspected their doctors' withdrawal instructions were torturing them and hoped to find better advice here left in despair after reading that the point of view here is that forced tapers - and forced deaths for the many people such as my family, who would die in agony and leave loving children without parents, are equally expendable if they aren't wealthy would be a "good thing."
The closest thing I have found that this New Zealander (who may well be a Yugoslavian who invents things and makes a huge income writing them) may be referring to is his reference to drugs in the context of urban gangs and crime.
Again, if I am mistaken, please correct me but provide a source that includes Trump actually speaking those words. (Long before the recent election I have found good reason not to fully trust what any news sources - conventional or alt - say, unless they cite credible references that are verifiable, and most of what I feel is credible is seeing/hearing the person speak the words attributed to them. Sorry state of affairs, but that is too much what the world has come to.)
This whole thread's premise is so full of bullsh*t (not referring to some truly valid concerns about the flaws in the ACA, which are complex and primarily come from insurance company greed which I agree heartily should be fixed, and as soon as possible), you could fertilize the entire nation's farms with it. I agree completely with Trump that the federal government should be able to negotiate pharmaceutical prices with the manufacturers, most of which are overseas, which is another problem. The Veterans Administration and the states, and certainly the insurance companies who bear most of even federally-subsidized pharmaceutical costs, can and do negotiate significantly lower prices. The federal government actually directly purchases far less, and the recent president has been trying for about a decade to be able to negotiate the much-higher prices it is forced to pay, but is prevented from doing so by the Republicans in Congress who passed a law forbidding it and refuse to change that law.
I am summarizing this very briefly and very late at night. I would like to do a better job on this but have to get some sleep (sorry, but I'm recovering from bad respiratory infection).
But I have been horrified at what I've seen being posted on this thread, and I assure you I'm not alone. (I do keep in touch, although not as often as I should, with some long-time friends I've made here.) Hard to believe that not that long ago on this planet, most people actually tried to know what they were talking about before they spoke about things. Especially when they involved life and death. Life is not a video game, folks. I've spent literally most of my life trying to help people who were suffering horribly, often as I was also. According to this thread, those of us who are not wealthy should suffer even more, be deprived of the many forms of medical care that often involves little and often no medications, and should die young and leave children without the parents they love, and - the only thing really relevant to this site IMO - should be forced (yes, forced) to taper psych drugs (which in this country means cut tablets in half and then half again for two weeks max IF AT ALL). And no matter how many meds one is on. And assuming they can pay for the doctor's visit to prescribe them, which costs far, far more than the price of the meds. And we have been told repeatedly here that that would be a good thing.
Yes, I'm angry. Angry beyond words. (I have no problem with which political candidate anyone favors. Fwiw I am a lifelong activist for antiwar/peace and other causes I believe in, have participated in peaceful - only - demonstrations at night in the cold when I was sick as a dog... and didn't think any of the final candidates were suitable for the job and what this country needs, though as usual voted for the candidate I thought was the lesser of the evils all considering.) I'm angry at the elitism and callousness here, and most of all that it undermines what this superb site has worked so hard at doing, to support people being able to choose whether they feel going off meds is the right choice in their circumstances and being able to do so in the safest way possible for them, no matter how long it takes, with holds or microtapering, as suits their needs. I haven't been here much lately and fervently hope those goals and the knowledgable advice given about doing so haven't been discarded.
Sorry for the length of this post. I take withdrawal (and life, and preventing suicides and other needless deaths) very seriously.
Edited by scallywag, 21 January 2017 - 01:22 PM.
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I was "TryingToGetWell" (aka TTGW) on paxilprogress. I also was one of the original members here on Surviving Antidepressants
I had horrific and protracted withdrawal from paxil, but now am back to enjoying life with enthusiasm to the max, some residual physical symptoms continued but largely improve. The horror, severe derealization, anhedonia, akathisia, and so much more, are long over.
My signature is a temporary scribble from year 2013. I'll rewrite it when I can.
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