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#1 phoenix7

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Posted 13 January 2017 - 04:17 AM

Maybe chemotherapy pills? But even those dont have these nasty withdrawals..


Risperdal 2mg for 14 days + 4mg for 2 days during my involuntary imprisonment on a psych hospital.

Started taking on june10th until june 25.

Never taken any other drugs prior or after this incident.


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Posted 24 January 2017 - 11:16 PM

Maybe only the pills that kill you immediately like rat poison
Was on 30mg (Lexapro) for 7-8yrs20mg for 3 months (This was my choice my Doc wanted me to drop much faster)15 mg 2week10mg 2 weeks 5 mg 1 week0 since August 24th Clonazapam. Currently 0.10mg daily. PPI Dexlant 20-30mg for last 29 months currently at 30mg

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Posted 24 January 2017 - 11:40 PM

I have a friend who went through chemo therapy followed by multiple pshyc drugs told me this, chemo is a piece of cake as compared to pshyc drug. And she didn't even have any problems withdrawal all those drugs, only the side effects.

As for poisons killing ppl immediately, it's still better than these pshyc drugs, as they put you into the worst longest most bazaar suffering as someone put it, it's below death!
<p>2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg, first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, slight improvement with pain2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR2016 Feb., started fast taper for the drug toxicity caused by the one dose of 4.2mg, dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, sliding Down to 0.13mg by 2/13, then 0.07mg since 2/18, 0.06mg 2/20-3/17, 0.13mg 3/18

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Posted 24 January 2017 - 11:43 PM

Want to add one thing more, they take away your dignity nothing in the whole world does. I was so gphoping I can die but I can't die like this leaving my family suffer from the indignity
<p>2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg, first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, slight improvement with pain2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR2016 Feb., started fast taper for the drug toxicity caused by the one dose of 4.2mg, dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, sliding Down to 0.13mg by 2/13, then 0.07mg since 2/18, 0.06mg 2/20-3/17, 0.13mg 3/18

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 05:23 AM

Lex I agree with you its a shame, in 50 yrs people will look back and wonder how the hell this was allowed to happen. I wish I abused other substances instead of SSRI. I would be healthier right now If I drank, smoked and took steroids everyday for the last 7 yrs.
Was on 30mg (Lexapro) for 7-8yrs20mg for 3 months (This was my choice my Doc wanted me to drop much faster)15 mg 2week10mg 2 weeks 5 mg 1 week0 since August 24th Clonazapam. Currently 0.10mg daily. PPI Dexlant 20-30mg for last 29 months currently at 30mg

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 05:58 AM

I have a friend who went through chemo therapy followed by multiple pshyc drugs told me this, chemo is a piece of cake as compared to pshyc drug. And she didn't even have any problems withdrawal all those drugs, only the side effects.

As for poisons killing ppl immediately, it's still better than these pshyc drugs, as they put you into the worst longest most bazaar suffering as someone put it, it's below death!

I think this is true. Although not to take away from the poor people who go through chemo! That is it's own type of hell! But I think... Maybe if we were more accepted / supported / listened to by modern medicine.... It would somehow be more bearable too? Does that make sense. I mean. I have lost many family members to cancer. It is NOT EASY. But everyone steps up... You know? To help. Instead of shaming you, and not believing you. I think, for me. That is the hardest part. Feeling alone in my suffering. When the withdrawals get tough, or a life event gets tough... I feel alone. There is nothing I can.. 'Do'. There really isn't. Except maybe hope. Or pray... If praying is your thing. If there was smaller doses easily available for tapering... And support and sympathy available too... I think it would be easier. But I totally agree. So called 'psych drugs' are the worst drugs... So far. I am sure the new ones are worse, as humans get better at making poison every year. :( 

 

Just wanted to add that here. 

 

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 10:27 AM

Id b astonished if there was .I have the constant fear of loosing everything because of my horrible symtoms .

 

At times im impossible to live with and i cant blame them.no self pity just reality.

 

Bring on the fight nasty drugs  


21​/06/2012 citrol10mg for stress, constant urination ,diazepam 2mg 26/07/2012 .12/07/2012 citroll 20mg,

​24/09/2013 Lexapro 20mg.didnt take them for a week during this year felt extremely strange ,had no idea down to drugs at the time .

​20/10/2014 venlafaxine xl 75mg.09/01/2015 venlafaxine xl 37.5. questioned doctor about drop in dose ,I was told no problem.

​13/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 150mg NEVER TOOK THEM getting wise?.20/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 75mg.19/08/2015 Xanax 250mcg [agitated]

​10/06/2015 venlafaxine 37.5mg.02/03/2016 five beads out for taper only lasted till 06/06/2016 extreme irritability and anxiety. 

​11/11/2016 Xanax 250mcg took them for few days ,fairly distressing time [working nearly impossible].11/11/2016 I was given a prescription for  Zyprexa 2.5mg AND DECIDED  NOT TO GET IT FROM CHEMIST.[my doctor gave them a great sales pitch ,talking about other patients that have benefited ,in witch it just annoyed me ]


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Posted 02 February 2017 - 06:06 AM

Id b astonished if there was .I have the constant fear of loosing everything because of my horrible symtoms .

 

At times im impossible to live with and i cant blame them.no self pity just reality.

 

Bring on the fight nasty drugs  

Hi Powerback, I struggle with this as well. So much. But I need people. SO I just  keep saying how sorry I am to everyone. They get sick of that too. But it is possible to be accepted, just as you are. I am learning that. Even though I am not perfect. I allow others to not be perfect too, and that helps me accept my own imperfects somehow. And to remind myself that it is not my fault! 


I know I can handle this moment, simply because I AM handling this moment. 

 

*Current: 2017 January Seroquel 10.75 Pax 5mg Dormonoct 2 mg ( holding up-dose due to life circumstances) 

 

*My full withdrawal history so far, up to Jan 2017 here in my intro (post #65)

*My Blog: tjdeepthinker@wordpress.com

 

...and we can SING about LOVE together...

:rolleyes: 


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Posted 11 February 2017 - 12:58 AM

HI tjdeepthinker , good point about allowing yourself to b accepted for the way we are, couple of years ago a therapist told me I had the strongest self critic he had ever come across ,I found that very interesting ,I wouldn't even take positive praise from anyone let alone trying to cope with negative criticism .

since I've become aware of this I've been working on things like perfectionism and letting a positive praise sit with me and accept it and cope better with criticism and failure .

It is helping me hugely the last year because I'm stuck in a pit of symptoms and accepting sympathy and help from others when needed.

Knowledge is poor .

take care .


21​/06/2012 citrol10mg for stress, constant urination ,diazepam 2mg 26/07/2012 .12/07/2012 citroll 20mg,

​24/09/2013 Lexapro 20mg.didnt take them for a week during this year felt extremely strange ,had no idea down to drugs at the time .

​20/10/2014 venlafaxine xl 75mg.09/01/2015 venlafaxine xl 37.5. questioned doctor about drop in dose ,I was told no problem.

​13/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 150mg NEVER TOOK THEM getting wise?.20/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 75mg.19/08/2015 Xanax 250mcg [agitated]

​10/06/2015 venlafaxine 37.5mg.02/03/2016 five beads out for taper only lasted till 06/06/2016 extreme irritability and anxiety. 

​11/11/2016 Xanax 250mcg took them for few days ,fairly distressing time [working nearly impossible].11/11/2016 I was given a prescription for  Zyprexa 2.5mg AND DECIDED  NOT TO GET IT FROM CHEMIST.[my doctor gave them a great sales pitch ,talking about other patients that have benefited ,in witch it just annoyed me ]


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Posted 11 February 2017 - 12:59 AM

knowledge is power


21​/06/2012 citrol10mg for stress, constant urination ,diazepam 2mg 26/07/2012 .12/07/2012 citroll 20mg,

​24/09/2013 Lexapro 20mg.didnt take them for a week during this year felt extremely strange ,had no idea down to drugs at the time .

​20/10/2014 venlafaxine xl 75mg.09/01/2015 venlafaxine xl 37.5. questioned doctor about drop in dose ,I was told no problem.

​13/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 150mg NEVER TOOK THEM getting wise?.20/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 75mg.19/08/2015 Xanax 250mcg [agitated]

​10/06/2015 venlafaxine 37.5mg.02/03/2016 five beads out for taper only lasted till 06/06/2016 extreme irritability and anxiety. 

​11/11/2016 Xanax 250mcg took them for few days ,fairly distressing time [working nearly impossible].11/11/2016 I was given a prescription for  Zyprexa 2.5mg AND DECIDED  NOT TO GET IT FROM CHEMIST.[my doctor gave them a great sales pitch ,talking about other patients that have benefited ,in witch it just annoyed me ]


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Posted 11 February 2017 - 01:04 AM

HI tjdeepthinker , good point about allowing yourself to b accepted for the way we are, couple of years ago a therapist told me I had the strongest self critic he had ever come across ,I found that very interesting ,I wouldn't even take positive praise from anyone let alone trying to cope with negative criticism .

since I've become aware of this I've been working on things like perfectionism and letting a positive praise sit with me and accept it and cope better with criticism and failure .

It is helping me hugely the last year because I'm stuck in a pit of symptoms and accepting sympathy and help from others when needed.

Knowledge is poor .

take care .

Hi Powerback,

 

I am also working on these things in my life at the moment! Letting go. And letting be... Sounds like yoiu have made some really good insights. I guess it's a working daily progress. -TJ


I know I can handle this moment, simply because I AM handling this moment. 

 

*Current: 2017 January Seroquel 10.75 Pax 5mg Dormonoct 2 mg ( holding up-dose due to life circumstances) 

 

*My full withdrawal history so far, up to Jan 2017 here in my intro (post #65)

*My Blog: tjdeepthinker@wordpress.com

 

...and we can SING about LOVE together...

:rolleyes: 


#12 powerback

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 08:37 AM

 

HI tjdeepthinker , good point about allowing yourself to b accepted for the way we are, couple of years ago a therapist told me I had the strongest self critic he had ever come across ,I found that very interesting ,I wouldn't even take positive praise from anyone let alone trying to cope with negative criticism .

since I've become aware of this I've been working on things like perfectionism and letting a positive praise sit with me and accept it and cope better with criticism and failure .

It is helping me hugely the last year because I'm stuck in a pit of symptoms and accepting sympathy and help from others when needed.

Knowledge is poor .

take care .

Hi Powerback,

 

I am also working on these things in my life at the moment! Letting go. And letting be... Sounds like yoiu have made some really good insights. I guess it's a working daily progress. -TJ

 

 

Hi TJ,exactly its a working progress and it can b very exciting learning to understand ourselves better without constantly judging ourselves so harshly and having more compassion.

For me personally when I realised the drugs don't solve my issues they just numbed me .I've been on a self discovery journey soaking up as much philosophy and phsycology as I can and its helped so much .I will warn anyone going down my route to do it under the supervision of a trained therapist first. [GP put me on drugs not therapist in my case].

I'm a big fan of a guy called gabor mate ,he has amazing insight into the human condition and very open about he's own story ,well worth a look at

The main thing is we should never judge ourselves for the pain in our lives or going on drugs and never stop learning about ourselves when the time or circumstances allow .   


21​/06/2012 citrol10mg for stress, constant urination ,diazepam 2mg 26/07/2012 .12/07/2012 citroll 20mg,

​24/09/2013 Lexapro 20mg.didnt take them for a week during this year felt extremely strange ,had no idea down to drugs at the time .

​20/10/2014 venlafaxine xl 75mg.09/01/2015 venlafaxine xl 37.5. questioned doctor about drop in dose ,I was told no problem.

​13/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 150mg NEVER TOOK THEM getting wise?.20/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 75mg.19/08/2015 Xanax 250mcg [agitated]

​10/06/2015 venlafaxine 37.5mg.02/03/2016 five beads out for taper only lasted till 06/06/2016 extreme irritability and anxiety. 

​11/11/2016 Xanax 250mcg took them for few days ,fairly distressing time [working nearly impossible].11/11/2016 I was given a prescription for  Zyprexa 2.5mg AND DECIDED  NOT TO GET IT FROM CHEMIST.[my doctor gave them a great sales pitch ,talking about other patients that have benefited ,in witch it just annoyed me ]


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 09:19 AM

 

 

HI tjdeepthinker , good point about allowing yourself to b accepted for the way we are, couple of years ago a therapist told me I had the strongest self critic he had ever come across ,I found that very interesting ,I wouldn't even take positive praise from anyone let alone trying to cope with negative criticism .

since I've become aware of this I've been working on things like perfectionism and letting a positive praise sit with me and accept it and cope better with criticism and failure .

It is helping me hugely the last year because I'm stuck in a pit of symptoms and accepting sympathy and help from others when needed.

Knowledge is poor .

take care .

Hi Powerback,

 

I am also working on these things in my life at the moment! Letting go. And letting be... Sounds like yoiu have made some really good insights. I guess it's a working daily progress. -TJ

 

 

Hi TJ,exactly its a working progress and it can b very exciting learning to understand ourselves better without constantly judging ourselves so harshly and having more compassion.

For me personally when I realised the drugs don't solve my issues they just numbed me .I've been on a self discovery journey soaking up as much philosophy and phsycology as I can and its helped so much .I will warn anyone going down my route to do it under the supervision of a trained therapist first. [GP put me on drugs not therapist in my case].

I'm a big fan of a guy called gabor mate ,he has amazing insight into the human condition and very open about he's own story ,well worth a look at

The main thing is we should never judge ourselves for the pain in our lives or going on drugs and never stop learning about ourselves when the time or circumstances allow .   

 

I will def take a look at that! My favs are Jon Kabat-Zinn, and Eckhart Tolle. Also worth taking a look at if you haven't yet. Sorry to hear about your GP. I was also first medicated by a gp... It's so sad. They really are trying to help. They just don't understand. They are not taught about the dangers of these very strong drugs!  -TJ 


I know I can handle this moment, simply because I AM handling this moment. 

 

*Current: 2017 January Seroquel 10.75 Pax 5mg Dormonoct 2 mg ( holding up-dose due to life circumstances) 

 

*My full withdrawal history so far, up to Jan 2017 here in my intro (post #65)

*My Blog: tjdeepthinker@wordpress.com

 

...and we can SING about LOVE together...

:rolleyes: