Bobo32

Bobo32: Paxil use the cause PSSD?

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Bobo, 

 

I feel your pain. I am at 6 months  off Lexapro and have EXACTLY the same symptoms! the tinnitus waxes and wanes. I notice it is worse when my anxiety is the highest. My sleep has been disturbed too.I have been only able to sleep 3-5 hours per night since December. Lexapro is a powerful SSRI. My Pdoc said it is the strongest of the SSRIs. 

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I also have a sense of inner restlessness. Could it be akathisia caused by all the drugs I used ?

Yes it could be, unfortunately. How are you feeling now? Edited by scallywag
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Bobo,

 

I feel your pain. I am at 6 months off Lexapro and have EXACTLY the same symptoms! the tinnitus waxes and wanes. I notice it is worse when my anxiety is the highest. My sleep has been disturbed too.I have been only able to sleep 3-5 hours per night since December. Lexapro is a powerful SSRI. My Pdoc said it is the strongest of the SSRIs.

You have soft/cold glans too? How long have you been on lexapro?

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Hi Bobo32,

I moved your new topic/post here into your own intro thread. This is the best place to ask these kinds of questions.

 

It sounds like you have protracted withdrawal from stopping your medications much too fast.

 

Reinstatement of a small amount of the drug can often work well to alleviate withdrawal symptoms. According to medical knowledge, reinstatement is the only way to alleviate withdrawal. Reinstatement is best done immediately upon appearance of symptoms. The more time that passes, the less likely it is to work. Once you have stabilized on a low dose of the drug, then a slower, safer taper can be started. Here is some information about reinstatement to help you decide if its something you would like to try:  About reinstating and stabilizing to stop withdrawal symptoms

 

From your signature, it looks like the last drug you took was lexapro. What dose were you taking? How often were you taking xanax, and what dose? It would be helpful if you would add a little more detail to your signature. We need to be able to see information about dosages, dates and how you tapered medications over the last 2 years.

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Hi Bobo32,

I moved your new topic/post here into your own intro thread. This is the best place to ask these kinds of questions.

 

It sounds like you have protracted withdrawal from stopping your medications much too fast.

 

Reinstatement of a small amount of the drug can often work well to alleviate withdrawal symptoms. According to medical knowledge, reinstatement is the only way to alleviate withdrawal. Reinstatement is best done immediately upon appearance of symptoms. The more time that passes, the less likely it is to work. Once you have stabilized on a low dose of the drug, then a slower, safer taper can be started. Here is some information about reinstatement to help you decide if its something you would like to try: About reinstating and stabilizing to stop withdrawal symptoms

 

From your signature, it looks like the last drug you took was lexapro. What dose were you taking? How often were you taking xanax, and what dose? It would be helpful if you would add a little more detail to your signature. We need to be able to see information about dosages, dates and how you tapered medications over the last 2 years.

I was taking paxil during november 2016 20mg then lexapro 5 mg demember till end of february

Xanax 5mg december until end of January 2017

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Would reinstatement alleviate symptoms like brain fog, tinnitus and soft glans syndrome ?

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Starting from December 2015 I started a drug journey which included 3 months of Zoloft, then drug holday then June July august 2016 zyprexa then November Paxil 20 mg and December January February lexapro 5mg with xanax 5 mg 3 times a day during December and January

Starting from march 2017 quit everything now I'm med free almost 3 months

My symptoms soft glans syndrome and low libido

Tinnitus

Brain fog

Very bad emotional state in general

Please experienced members and moderators, can anyone tell me what I can do to alleviate these symptoms? Should I keep drug free and see it through?or should I reinitiate despite being 3 months into withdrawal?

Thanks all

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I feel your panic, hurt and guilt. I wish I've never touched these poisons.  As for your sexual problems, the fact that you started having them after being on an SSRI (Paxil) very much means it's PSSD (Post SSRI Sexual Dysfunction) not porn addiction. There's another user who took an SSRI for only few months. When he quit, he like you didn't get any withdrawal symptoms but only experienced weird sexual problems which refused to go away years later.  You'll find alot of similar stories in "PSSD forum". May I ask how is your sex drive now after quitting drugs the second time? It looks like it progressed to being worse. non existent maybe? 

 

According to this article, soft glans is a symptom of PSSD. https://rxisk.org/post-ssri-sexual-dysfunction-pssd/

Also search google "Soft glans PSSD". 

 

 

 

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I have the exact same withdrawal symptoms you have (only I don't have soft glans I'm a female). What we're going thru is called "Post-acute Withdrawal Syndrome (PAWS). 

https://www.addictionsandrecovery.org/post-acute-withdrawal.htm

http://www.recoveryfirst.org/treatment-for-post-acute-withdrawal-syndrome/

https://www.discoveryplace.info/post-acute-withdrawal-syndrome-paws

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-acute-withdrawal_syndrome

 

Cognitive impairment ( non native english speaker who had successfully completed journalism degree in english now writes like a freaking pre schooler), depersonalization, derealization, total sexual dysfunction (no genital sensation no libido no nothing), impaired social skills(add to that my original diagnosis which is social anxiety), anhedonia, anxiety, and anger. Also, some loss of coordination, negative obsessive thoughts, and stress sensitivity. Slow tapering doesn't mean you won't get WD symptoms but they will be a lot less severe and thus a bit manageable. 

 

Whether all this means permanent brain damage or not I don't know. Several months off antidepressants and I'm still suffering very badly. I have read that there's recovery it varies from person to person. There are people who said their sex drive improved but never returned to 100% like it was pre-drug. 

 

For some, reinstatement works, for others it may alleviate some symptoms and make other ones worse (happened to me) or all the symptoms worse. When I reinstated Paxil (5mg) after only a month off, all WD symptoms instantly resolved. However, when I reinstated after about 5 months off, it only resolved serotonin related functions like anxiety and mood while making dopamine related functions like cognition, dp/dr, motivation, energy, and sex a lot worse. I tried other SSRIs like Prozac, Trintellix they all acted the same but paxil was the worst. Thats for me, it may work for you. I think it's better you reinstate at a very low dose 1 or 2 mg. See how it goes. 

 

P.S some people don't go through PAWs the first time they take an AD. However, they do the second time around. My sister took Lexapro for about a year and had no problem getting off. I don't know if she experienced sexual problems. Of course she won't tell me. She's back on Lexapro 2 years later and now has trouble getting off of it. 

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I think my symptoms come from the two drugs I took last year, zyprexa gave me cognitive problems brain fog and disorientation and anxiety while lexapro gave me soft glans and tinnitus

I'm 7 months off zyprexa and 3 months off lexapro. I don't know what to do how long it takes to feel relief

Although I must say, my symptoms are much better than at the beginning of withdrawal but still bothersome

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Hello everyone, I'm 3 months in withdrawal. My symptoms improved a lot except for pssd and tinnitus. My highest dose was 5 my lexapro and 3x5mg xanax for 3mo and 6weeks respectively

Should I reinitiate to improve those symptoms or is it better to stay drug free ?

Thanks all

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It's definitely up to you! I reinstated to stabilize again after a quick taper. I'm back on 5mg of cipralex it's taken away my serious WD symptoms. If you do start very slow like 2.5mg see how you feel and go from there your brian is Changing!!

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any ilprovements?

did you ever experience soft glans syndrome?

anyone know how to alleviate this symptom?

thanks

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Bobo, I'm sorry that you're suffering so greatly as a result of having taken psychiatric medications and of having tapered rapidly off them.  There isn't much known about PSSD and its treatment.  The only solutions we have for you are to be patient and to find other things to focus on than your sexual function.  

 

You'll have better luck connecting with other men dealing with the same situation on groups and sites such as:

 

PSSDforum http://www.pssdforum.com/

 

Yahoo group SSRIsex (log in to http://Yahoo.com to join)

 

Various pages on Rxisk.org

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Hello everyone,

 

Currently I'm almost 5 months in withdrawal after a year and a half of polydrugging. I feel much better although some symptoms bother me a lot.

 

1. Brain fog 

2. Tinnitus

3. PSSD

 

The drugs I incremenate the most are although I think they all cause all kinds of symptoms during taper and withdrawal

1. Zyprexa which I think is responsible for the brain fog

2. Xanax I think caused Tinnitus

3. Lexapro the PSSD

 

I tried all sorts of supplements but nothing really helped with those persistent symptoms.

 

I would like to ask experienced members here if they could give me an advice; knowing that i'm 5 months out and improved a lot. Should I reinstate at low doses to have relief from those symptoms? Or sticking to withdrawal would be a better bet for me to heal in time?

 

Thanks in advance

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On 2016-02-06 at 1:16 PM, Altostrata said:

"Therapeutic doses" means the dosages found in clinical studies to reduce symptoms of "depression." These tend to be the tablet dosages available, e.g. 10mg, 20mg, 30mg Paxil.
 
(Whether the dosages actually do reduce symptoms of "depression" has produced a huge volume of literature critical of psychiatric drug development.)
 
Although you'll see many references to "therapeutic doses" in journal articles, they are a hypothetical construct, the drug companies' best guesses at what will "work" for the largest number of people. In fact, these are very strong drugs and probably commonly dosed too high, resulting in excess SERT occupancy.
 
These drugs are psychoactives. Some people feel an effect at very low dosages. SERT occupancy is only one factor in causing the neurological changes leading to these effects.
 
If you have been on a drug such as Paxil for a long time, it has caused changes in your nervous system far beyond SERT occupancy. It has changed the inter-relationship of all your hormonal systems, the functioning of your digestive system, your sleep pattern, etc. When you get down to a low dose, which may mean partial SERT occupancy, the rest of your body has to adjust. It is this adjustment that causes withdrawal symptoms.
 
In addition, paroxetine in particular is a very difficult drug to quit, perhaps the worst of all the antidepressants. This is probably because of its effects beyond SERT. For example, it is the SSRI that is the most anti-cholinergic, directly affecting an entire autonomic system.

 

See “It’s Anticholinergic” – What Does That Mean? http://pro.psychcentral.com/its-anticholinergic-what-does-that-mean/002836.html#

 

hey Alto,

In the case one has not taken the drug for a short time in my case i took zyprexa 5 mg for 3 months and still had a very bad reaction during CT withdrawal, now 5 months out I still have cognitive problems.

In this case since the drug was only taken for a short time can we still talk about withdrawal? Or is it more accurate to talk about brain injury?

If the latter is more accurate, then do you think that brain healing is possible ? Can it reverse thedamage done by the drug?

Can one completely heal and be like I used to be pre zyprexa?

Also, Is what I'm experiencing common to all psychoactive substances? Or is AP injury more profound than that of ADs?

Thanks alot

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Bobo,I've merged the topic you started in the Symptoms forum with your introduction topic.

Please ask questions about your situation in this topic -- your introduction and updates topic. Please do not start new topics for questions about your symptoms or medications.

 

Before starting a new topic in the Symptoms forum, please search for an existing topic first by using either

  • the site search tool,
    -- or --
  • a web search engine, e.g. google or bing, adding site:survivingantidepressants.org as a keyword to get pages on this site at the top of the search results.

 

 

 

 

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Any antipsychotic recovery stories ?

i feel à lot of cognitive decline following use of zyprexa. I really need to know if people actually recovered from this. 

Thank you

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Bobo -- I moved your post from a thread in the Success Stories forum to your introduction topic so that you will see my reply sooner.

 

Here's a link to a topic in Success Stories Anti-psychotic survivors -- Interested in you success stories. You've posted in that topic before.  There have been no new posts since your last one.

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