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waves12: 8 months after Cold Turkey and can barely cope

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Hello everyone.

 

I had been on this forum many times before reading all the posts, usually in the dead of night when feeling so desperate and alone with insomnia but did not sign up until now as hoping I would be feeling a bit better by now. I don't. I came off Duloxetine/Cymbalta, 60mg,in June 2016 cold turkey, probably a huge mistake to do it this way but I had been in touch with my doctor and he suggested to change antidepressant to Citalopram 20mg which I tried for a week and felt strange so ended up ditching both.  I went through a terrible time of adjustment for the first 100 days but then seemed to manage slightly better, although it was tough I had hope for a while apart from the no sleep. After another few weeks all kinds of symptoms came at me like an express train and these now remain. I feel generally unwell all the time, depressed, no interest, no zest for life and just not functioning very well.  I do have Citalopram tablets, 20mg, here in the house and feel tempted to take them but unsure of what to do. I also have Diazepam which I have taken on and off for 8/9 years 2mg. The Diazepam does not help me sleep at all but does calm me down a little but I feel it is not helpful to my withdrawal off the anti depressents and may be making symptoms worse.

 

Would like to ask advice as to whether or not to reinstate antidepressents for a while as struggling so badly with suicidal thoughts and of little hope in recovering. 8 months of feeling so ill everyday is such hard work and is like living less than half a life. All hope I had in feeling better has gone, I cant believe I can feel this bad and still continue to try and get on with the days activities. I keep thinking that I should be in a hospital being looked after but of course any doctor would just dose me up, seems appealing today.

 

Any suggestions would be appreciated very much.

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Welcome waves12,

I'm glad you decided to join and write an introduction post. I'm so sorry you're going through this, but unfortunately your experience is not uncommon. Recovery from these kinds of drugs, especially after stopping too fast can often take quite a while, longer than one would expect.

 

Your experience of feeling a little better, and then much worse is also quite normal and is called:

The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization

 

It would be great if you would put your drug and withdrawal history in your signature. Doing this helps people understand your context, it appears below each of your posts. Here are instructions for how to do it:

 

Please put your withdrawal history in your signature

 

After 7 months, we generally wouldn't recommend reinstating the drug because there is no guarantee it would help, and it often makes symptoms worse. I tried going back on medication after suffering with symptoms for over a year and regretted it. I became much worse and it set my recovery back.

 

But it is an option and does work for some people. Here is our reinstatement topic, which explains how, you start with a very small amount:  About reinstating and stabilizing to stop withdrawal symptoms

 

I think you may be right in suspecting that taking Diazepam is not helping, and yes, its probably making things worse, due to the destabilizing effect of taking it on an irregular basis.  I also tried using a benzo (xanax) to manage symptoms. But I quickly became dependent on it, causing worse symptoms in between doses. It was before I found this site and didn't realize my symptoms were being caused by a drug I stopped taking 6 months earlier.

 

If you have been taking Diazepam more than 1 - 2 times a week, you may already be dependent on it and will need to taper. For more information and help with this, please see our

Members-only benzo forum

 

And here is the link to our symptoms and self care section, you may find some useful ideas to help manage symptoms as you recover.  Especially read the topics pinned at the top.

 

You can use this thread as your ongoing journal to track progress, write about symptoms, ask questions and communicate with the community, add to it whenever you want. Its a good idea to bookmark it or follow it, so its easy to find again.

 

Petunia.

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Hello Petunia

 

Thank you so much for replying to my post, I have been reading all the information on and off all day. As I thought reinstatement does not seem a good idea and I don't feel I want to risk it or undo the good work to date, although finding it hard to put the word 'good' against any part of my recovery so far. I will continue to read the posts and information on here and thank God for this website and all who post their experiences on here.

 

Sometimes I think 'if only I could sleep I am sure I would manage a bit better' the insomnia seems to effect many in AD withdrawal for a long time.  I have been sleeping for only two hours per night the last 8 months and it is torture night after night and really does drive me nuts. I have had about 5 nights since June 2016 where I slept for 6 hours and when this happened I really thought each time that the insomnia was ending, not so.

 

Looking forward to joining the posts with updates as and when new developments occur.

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I agree with you waves, not being able to get a refreshing nights sleep makes this all so much harder to deal with. My experience has been that sleep improves over time, also in a windows and waves kind of pattern. I went from not being able to sleep at all to where I am now with my sleep being completely back to normal.

 

My last sleep issue to recover was the ability to nap during the day.

 

There's really nothing which speeds up the recovery process, but many things we can do to minimize symptoms or help us deal with them better. Here is a topic with some sleep related ideas:

 

Important topics about symptoms, including sleep problems

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Your benzodiazepine could be causing all of these symptoms in itself, irregularly as you are taking it. Sleep patterns can't really normalise while benzos are in the picture. Their depressive side effects are also very underreported and underrated. I would focus on the side effects of your diazepam rather than adding citalopram to the problem. 

 

I experienced similar problems while using alprazolam, with random, severe bouts of depression. It took me years to figure out that it was the alprazolam and not my "condition" or citalopram dose. This was while I was stable on 10mg of citalopram, before I attempted tapering. Coming off alprazolam was rough (I also used it irregularly) and not without incident. It took a few months to settle down, and sleeping was my biggest issue. 

 

Bottom line is it's impossible to assess your mental and emotional wellbeing without adequate sleep, and it's impossible to maintain any natural sleep rhythm with a benzodiazepine in the picture. 

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Hello Syzygyea

 

Thank you for your post. Didn't know it was there until I went through the list. I am down to 1mg of valium now which I last took on Thursday last week and now hoping it will be the end. My sleep is just awful and no let up. Its as if my brain has lost the part which allows sleep.  I do all the right things, meditation, yoga and good diet but to no avail.  As you say the benzo needs to be completely gone and am hoping now that I will manage without it. Finding life so difficult right now and brain fog is so bad and have no interest in anything or anybody. Thank you again for your post and hope you are doing well.

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Hi waves 12 I can fully relate to your problem , I have had no sleep for 8 weeks now , I have been withdrawn from all my medication by the hospital , I feel ill all the while and have no interest in anything or anybody , I just am in survival mode , the sweating and the shaking that is with me all through the night and into the day is torturous, I have been of venalaxafine for over 2 years and that's what caused my protracted withdrawel , I keep thinking even now about a small dose to see if it allieviates anything , which is because we are desperate. I am currently in a hospital and like you say all the doctors want to do is dose you up on as many drugs as possible , I wish I new the answer for both of us, I hate feeling like this , it's no life , if we could get some sleep I'm sure we would feel better , I have been suffering for 3 years now without windows , have you tried the supplements recommended on here , unfortunately none seem to work for me , but they may help you

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Hi Terry 4949

 

Lovely to hear from you and thank you.  I am sorry to hear you are in the hospital feeling so bad, I hope you will fit enough soon to leave there. I had felt so many times that I should be in a hospital being cared for as living on my own seemed such hard work, but there again I could not have coped having someone in the house whilst going through this, cant win eh!  I had the terrible sweats for months and months and racing heart that I thought I was going to pass out, the sweats did pass over for a while but are back for some time now.  It is all so frightening and I find I worry and stress more during the dead of the night. I spend a lot of time in my living room during the night fretting about my lack of sleep, I try to go back to bed and always hope that I may just get some sleep for relief from myself. I really find the not sleeping very debilitating and find it difficult to make plans as so exhausted all the time and the thought of driving any distance is such a challenge but I do drive to see my son and family who live about an hour away, if I didn't go and see him I would struggle to see any family at all, even though he doesn't understand any of this I go anyway. After the drive home I am completely wasted for two full days and often wonder if it is worth it, it is as he has two little boys and they bring me joy, not much else does at the moment. I had thought of going back on AD's many times but I know this is not the answer and also have read that people have felt even worse when going back on, so I decided I couldn't feel any worse than I do and certainly don't fancy risking feeling worse. I do take fish oils and vitamin D but not sure if they help, again have also read that supplements can cause problems. What to do is so hard, trial and error.

 

I really hope you will be ok and look forward to any updates that you can do on here. This site is great for us. Sending you healing wishes.

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Just because this site is for helping people coming of their antidepressants who wish to do so , it doesn't mean you have to struggle may be you could go and see your doctor and ask for a small amount of something even duloxetine to help you get stabilised , then try a really slow taper , I would think the benzo is causing a lot of the trouble, when you came of the duloxetine did you feel ok wilst on it , that was a massive amount to c/t from and would have put your whole body into shock , sometimes you have to go back wards to move forwards , many people I have read on here have gone back on and stabilised and then withdrawn very slowly , if you look at my history you can see what hell I have been through. if the med made you feel better when you first went on it doesn't mean it won't again , then do things more slowly , nobody should have to suffer , you need your doctor to do more , and help you with the benzo withdrawel

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Hi waves

Do you think it is possible to put up  drug signature it makes it so easy to see a persons situation providing an immediate window on your position and is easier than having to read back through posts to get a handle on whats happened.

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As requested please Create Your Signature.  Please include details for the last 12-18 months of  all drugs, dates, doses and discontinuations & reinstatements.  If you can't remember dates, please write it as "early March" or "mid-August".  Please provide a summary of any drugs prior to that which can just be listed with start and stop years. Please include all prescription, non-prescription drugs and supplements you are currently taking. Phone Instructions:  Withdrawal History Signature. Please also remember to update it with date and dose whenever make a change so that it remains current. Thank you.

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An update as not posted for a while.

 

I am still not sleeping, two hours per night, for the last almost 10 months now. I CT off in June 2016. The insomnia is driving me crazy and the depression that goes with it. I have barley had on single day of feeling better at all.  So much so that yesterday I took 5mg of citalopram in the hopes of relieving withdrawal symptoms. At 10 months off I don't think this has been a wise move.  Today I feel terrible with zombie like feelings and didn't sleep at all.

 

I guess I am being impatient and just felt that at 10 months nothing has changed and I cant go on like this.

 

My friends and family are all stepping back from me as they are sick of hearing about how I cant sleep.  This is a nightmare that I want to be over.

 

I have read so much on here and it seems that the journey is long and relentless. I felt so down yesterday that I didn't want to live.

 

I don't know what to do now as I have taken that one tablet. Have I ruined everything? Is it ok to not take another one?

 

Any help please, I am so broken right now.

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An update as not posted for a while.

 

I am still not sleeping, two hours per night, for the last almost 10 months now. I CT off in June 2016. The insomnia is driving me crazy and the depression that goes with it. I have barley had on single day of feeling better at all. So much so that yesterday I took 5mg of citalopram in the hopes of relieving withdrawal symptoms. At 10 months off I don't think this has been a wise move. Today I feel terrible with zombie like feelings and didn't sleep at all.

 

I guess I am being impatient and just felt that at 10 months nothing has changed and I cant go on like this.

 

My friends and family are all stepping back from me as they are sick of hearing about how I cant sleep. This is a nightmare that I want to be over.

 

I have read so much on here and it seems that the journey is long and relentless. I felt so down yesterday that I didn't want to live.

 

I don't know what to do now as I have taken that one tablet. Have I ruined everything? Is it ok to not take another one?

 

Any help please, I am so broken right now.

I took one tablet this week aswell and I'm 10mths off and fed up with this withdrawal, I was really unwell for 5 days but I'm starting to feel a bit better again. I'm hoping it hasn't set me back. Hope you will be ok and try and keep strong. These drugs are truely awful.

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Can you try and do something you enjoy and that can relax you? I gonto acupuncture and have massage and feel that helps but everyone is different. I had good few weeks for a while and then suddenly symptoms that I have had since Feb are back with evengance and I think it because I had a lot of stress recently. Wishing you hope and peace.

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Hi Bluebird

 

Have you stayed on your AD since taking it? Are you staying reinstated for a while? I have not taken a second dose as yet, last one was yesterday just coming up 24 hours ago.

 

Thank you for your post.

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Hi Waves,

 

I just wanted to stop by and see how you are doing. I cold turkeyed Wellbutrin June 1, 2016 so I'm about the same place you are in time. This past month I did end up with a window. I hope that you are able to find some. I have seen that some people will have a very slow recovery without windows but if they look at their symptoms over time they will see that they have improved, even if it is just a little. I know it's not much consolation when you are feeling so awful. 

 

What did you decide to do with your medication?

 

Thinking of you and hoping you are finding some peace.

 

Hugs and healing

T

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Hello tntd

 

Thank you for posting to me.

 

I did take 2.5mg for two further days but am now regretting it as feel damped down again which is the exact thing I came off for.  I feel annoyed at myself but was suffering so badly with the withdrawals, depression and no sleep.

 

As you say if you look back over time things were starting to get better but obviously not enough for me to make a bad choice. I got impatient and above all scared of how I was feeling. The insomnia was just terrible and I could barley function and was staying home all the time so that people didn't have to see me or put up with my low moods. My two grown up sons have little empathy and seem fed up with me so I think I thought that if I reinstated a little bit I would be upbeat to be around.

 

The thing with that is though I am trying to please them in a way and that is not a solution. I live on my own, work from home on my own so really isolated, not good for me but don't want to put on others how I really am.

 

I had noticed I was doing a bit more and really pushing myself to keep busy, since reinstatement I have been slobbing around again. Hmmm its tough.

 

Bottom line is I want to be well and I want to be now!  10 gruelling months of hell were taking their toll on me and I caved in.

 

The biggest concern is that even if I stay reinstated for a few months it seems that once down to zero the hell will start again although I don't know that for sure its a frightening prospect.

 

How are you today?

 

W xxx

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Can you try and do something you enjoy and that can relax you? I gonto acupuncture and have massage and feel that helps but everyone is different. I had good few weeks for a while and then suddenly symptoms that I have had since Feb are back with evengance and I think it because I had a lot of stress recently. Wishing you hope and peace.

Hi waves12 no I didn't stay on the medication as it made me very unwell, I am only starting to recover fully again now after the reaction. Awful drugs and I can't tolerate so I have no choice but to try and get over this without medication. How are you keeping?

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Hi W,

 

Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you. My husband took a week off for his birthday and so I haven't really been on the computer. 

 

I'm sorry to hear that things are so rough for you. I always said the drugs turned me into a zombie. Other than that they really didn't do anything for me. Except Wellbutrin which gave me lots of energy, along with akathisia.  

 

I have heard that some people if they taper off slowly don't have bad symptoms afterwards and some still do. It's frustrating not knowing which one you will be. I have no idea how a CT and then a really late reinstatement would affect that either. This is a really hard thing to go through, especially if you CT. Have you managed to stay off the medications now and if so how are you feeling. Do you feel like it helped you at all to do a small reinstatement for a short time? 

 

I know I struggle with how to deal with this too. I think we all want a quick cure. We didn't sign up for this and there are no guidelines of how to deal with it other than the wonderful pages and pages that have been put together for us here. One day at a time, sometimes one moment at a time. 

 

I like something Shep said to me: 

 

"I've written about the concept of Battle Fatigue on other people's thread and I fear you may be reaching this phase. It's like you were given a 10 pound weight to carry when you first started your taper. Back then, it might have been no problem to carry that 10 pound weight around with you.

 

But as the months drag on, that 10 pound weight begins to feel like it weighs 100 pounds. But nothing has changed - it still only weighs 10 pounds. But in the context of how much energy you've already used up, the weight feels magnified. Same thing with symptoms - they feel magnified".

 

Unfortunately in a Ct we can't hold our taper we just have to keep going and know that at some point things will improve. We know it because we have seen it happen for other people. 

 

I wish I could remember where I read it but I know there is someone else who didn't get any windows they just very slowly got better and it was hard to see except when they looked back at their symptoms. 

 

I was doing ok for awhile but I'm back into the thick of the symptoms. It was the first break I had in about six months so I feel a little regenerated. I still have to taper off of a benzo and I was trying to do that but because of the CT it just kept getting harder and harder and the sxs kept getting worse and worse. My pdoc told me to hold for a few months. Maybe that will help me be able to taper off of the benzo. 

 

I hope that you are doing ok. We're here with you.

 

Hugs and healing energy to you. 

 

T

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Can you try and do something you enjoy and that can relax you? I gonto acupuncture and have massage and feel that helps but everyone is different. I had good few weeks for a while and then suddenly symptoms that I have had since Feb are back with evengance and I think it because I had a lot of stress recently. Wishing you hope and peace.

Hi waves12 no I didn't stay on the medication as it made me very unwell, I am only starting to recover fully again now after the reaction. Awful drugs and I can't tolerate so I have no choice but to try and get over this without medication. How are you keeping?

 

Hi Bluebird, I had not been on here for a while, I wish I could say it was because I am well but it isn't the reason.

I am not on any meds, tried a couple of days of reinstatement but felt awful, didn't think it was possible to feel worse than I already I did.

 

I am feeling so bad everyday and just don't know what to do anymore, I feel scared that I am never going to get better.

 

How are you getting on now?

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Hi W,

 

Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you. My husband took a week off for his birthday and so I haven't really been on the computer. 

 

I'm sorry to hear that things are so rough for you. I always said the drugs turned me into a zombie. Other than that they really didn't do anything for me. Except Wellbutrin which gave me lots of energy, along with akathisia.  

 

I have heard that some people if they taper off slowly don't have bad symptoms afterwards and some still do. It's frustrating not knowing which one you will be. I have no idea how a CT and then a really late reinstatement would affect that either. This is a really hard thing to go through, especially if you CT. Have you managed to stay off the medications now and if so how are you feeling. Do you feel like it helped you at all to do a small reinstatement for a short time? 

 

I know I struggle with how to deal with this too. I think we all want a quick cure. We didn't sign up for this and there are no guidelines of how to deal with it other than the wonderful pages and pages that have been put together for us here. One day at a time, sometimes one moment at a time. 

 

I like something Shep said to me: 

 

"I've written about the concept of Battle Fatigue on other people's thread and I fear you may be reaching this phase. It's like you were given a 10 pound weight to carry when you first started your taper. Back then, it might have been no problem to carry that 10 pound weight around with you.

 

But as the months drag on, that 10 pound weight begins to feel like it weighs 100 pounds. But nothing has changed - it still only weighs 10 pounds. But in the context of how much energy you've already used up, the weight feels magnified. Same thing with symptoms - they feel magnified".

 

Unfortunately in a Ct we can't hold our taper we just have to keep going and know that at some point things will improve. We know it because we have seen it happen for other people. 

 

I wish I could remember where I read it but I know there is someone else who didn't get any windows they just very slowly got better and it was hard to see except when they looked back at their symptoms. 

 

I was doing ok for awhile but I'm back into the thick of the symptoms. It was the first break I had in about six months so I feel a little regenerated. I still have to taper off of a benzo and I was trying to do that but because of the CT it just kept getting harder and harder and the sxs kept getting worse and worse. My pdoc told me to hold for a few months. Maybe that will help me be able to taper off of the benzo. 

 

I hope that you are doing ok. We're here with you.

 

Hugs and healing energy to you. 

 

T

Hello T

 

Thank you for your post. Sorry not replied until now.

 

I stayed off the meds after the few days instatement. Still feeling really bad with no windows. My sleep is terrible, I like what you quoted from Sheps post about the carrying the heavy loads.

 

I feel so alone with this even though there are hundreds of people on here going through this.

 

I keep asking myself if I am ever going to be better, over 10 months of hell everyday.

 

How are you doing?

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I have now reinstated to 2mg of citalopram, this is the 2nd day.  When I took the first dose yesterday after just 4 hours it was like a bubble burst with relief in my head and the brain fog lifted at the same time.

 

Of course I am disappointed for having to go backwards but I couldn't live like this anymore.  10 months of constant brain fog with only one window back in March, 8 months after the cold turkey plus not one night of sleep during this 10 months, well 2 hours only per night, starting to go insane.

 

I am quite shocked how quickly this 2mg took affect and wonder if any healing had taken place at all?

Also now wondering if any healing had taken place, is all that undone?

 

The plan is to stabilize now on 2mg for 4 weeks and see how I am then. 

 

I am hoping that I may brighten up a bit in day or so plus the possibility of some extra sleep would be welcomed.

 

My worry is that I will still have to go through terrible withdrawals again but hoping it wont be so severe, that's what I hope for anyway.

 

A brief answer to my few questions would be appreciated by one of the mods or anyone that can help me please.

 

I am sweating like crazy the last few hours this is due to the evil drug getting in my system I am sure.

 

I just could not carry on with the symptoms any longer but I also note from others that even after a very slow taper they still seem to go through a lot of the same intensity of withdrawal after some time of being on zero.

 

I am not fit for another episode of withdrawal in the near future.

 

Hoping this reinstatement will balance me out a bit.

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Good to hear that you've experienced relief with 2 days of reinstating. A hold at 2 mg citalopram for 4 weeks sounds like an excellent plan to me. 

 

I hope you can let go of worrying about future events. For now, enjoy the freedom from brain fog!

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Hey there,

 

So glad to hear that a small reinstatement helped. You were completely off for ten months right? How much were you taking when you CT'd?  I'm so excited that you are feeling some relief. 

 

I think my brain is starting to do a bit better after my CT. I'm eleven months post CT now and with the hold on the benzo taper am starting to have a few windows here and there. Thank you for asking. 

 

I hope that you continue to feel better.

 

Hugs and healing,

T

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Hey there,

 

So glad to hear that a small reinstatement helped. You were completely off for ten months right? How much were you taking when you CT'd?  I'm so excited that you are feeling some relief. 

 

I think my brain is starting to do a bit better after my CT. I'm eleven months post CT now and with the hold on the benzo taper am starting to have a few windows here and there. Thank you for asking. 

 

I hope that you continue to feel better.

 

Hugs and healing,

T

Hi T

 

I only did the reinstatement for a couple of days, I had to stop as felt so rough after the 2nd dose. I had 4 good days this week and thought it may be all over but of course it was a window and a great window at that, but it didn't last and not so great again today.  But the main thing is that I can feel ok and I really did need that experience even though short lived.

 

Apart from two failed reinstatements at a very low dose I am now off CT for 11 months.  I had CT from 60mg duloxetine to 30mg citalopram for two weeks first and then nothing so really it was a CT from 60mg I guess.

 

What a long road this is.

 

Hope you are doing ok. :)

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Hi Waves,

 

I've been doing pretty well. This month has been pretty good to me. My waves haven't been as deep and I've been able to get out in the late afternoon or evenings on several occasions. Yesterday I woke up to a full blown window :D Today has been pretty good so far but I'm home alone without a vehicle so I can't go anywhere even though I feel pretty good. I suppose that's ok because my hubby and I were gone pretty much all day yesterday so I should probably cool it today to try to prolong this window. '

 

It's interesting how it always feels like, wow, I'm all better when in a window. It's nice to know that we are healing though and that one day, hopefully soon we will be all better and instead of a window it will just be life! 

 

I hope you continue to get windows and that they last longer and longer. 

 

I'll be one year CT on June 1st. Happy Anniversary???  Sounds like we are close in our timelines. 

 

Healing hugs,

 

T

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Hello T

 

How are you doing now?  Are you still feeling quite well?

 

Your whole year has now passed, mine is the 16th June 2016.

 

I had a bad week just gone by and felt so rough again, such a shock when it hits, should be prepared by now but never want it to come back.

 

This is all so difficult and so prolonged but like everyone I must be patient.

 

A lot of symptoms returned this last week which I didn't expect, nauseous, brain fog and the depression was so difficult to deal with and still is today.

 

I hope you will continue on the good road that are on.

 

xx

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Not posted for a couple of months, have been on the forum lots though. Am just trying to heal quietly but that's not working.

 

After trying reinstatement at beginning of May on 2 mg citalopram, which failed as felt so awful on it with even more symptoms on top of the CT symptoms, which don't seem to let up, I have tried once again to reinstate at just 0.5 mg 5 days ago. The definition of madness for sure.

 

By day 2 felt terrible again and felt like I had disconnected from my body, even with this low dose, so had to stop after 4 days as couldn't cope with the feelings.

 

Now the drug is leaving my system again, last dose was Monday, first dose Sunday, I started to feel more relief from all symptoms this evening which is strange as the poison is now on the way out I would imagine.

 

I did experience this the last time I tried a reinstatement, felt terrible, then relief as drug started to leave body.

 

Would like to ask if anyone has an idea as to why the relief from all symptoms after stopping the drug? Any one had this or know of any reasons?

 

I would only guess that the drug is actually alleviating some symptoms but only as it is on the way out.  Very strange and very unsettling.

 

I have had little relief from my CT since June 2016 and it has been brutal the whole time, apart from 5/6 days only, where I had a window.

 

After suffering all these months I had enough of it hence the two failed reinstatements, it may be 3 in total, but all ends up the same, feel worse and then when drug starts to leave system I feel relief for a while then wham back to CT withdrawal all over again, hence the definition of madness.

 

Can anyone shed some light on what may be happening please?

 

Would love to hear from anyone that may understand this experience.  Would love to hear from anyone about anything too!

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Any mods able to answer or advise on my last post please?

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It takes about 4 days for the drug to reach a steady state in the blood.  It takes longer for it to register in the brain.  It looks like you haven't given the reinstatement long enough to fully register.  We generally suggest that people continue on the reinstated dose for 2 weeks (unless they have a really bad reaction), and keep daily notes of symptoms so that they can see improvements/worsening.

 

Please create your drug history in your signature so we don't have to read through your posts to find the information.

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Hi Chessie Cat

 

Thank you for reply. Feeing so desperate all the time through this.

Each time I have tried to reinstate with the Citalopram I get relief from brain fog but then I start to sweat, chronic anxiety and start to feel drugged and unwell.

This recent one of 0.50mg I thought would be ok as low dose but felt so rough after the 3rd day. Felt disconnected from my body and not in control.

I have not stayed with it for more than 4 days as felt the start up symptoms were telling me it is not going to work?

 

I had made liquid from 10mg Citaopram tablet with 10mls of water and mixed this and used 0.50mg as a dose, was this correct measures?

 

I would like some help please as cant go on like this.

 

 

 

 

Tried to put this in signature but it kept saying not within guidelines, shortened it many times but to no avail to put here for now.

 

1993 to 2016 Various antidepressants with only short breaks.

1993-  Started Prothiaden- Tryicyle AD, 75mg

2000- 2016 Was switched to SSRI's Sertaline.

2010-  May 2016 Duloxetine 60mg.

May 2016- Citalopram 20mg.

June 2016- Cold turkey from Duloxetine 60mg.

2017 Found SA.

April 2017 Tried to reinstate citalopram 5mg, felt drugged. Off 2 days later.

May 2017 Tried to reinstate 2.5mg same feelings, 2 or 3 days.

July 2017 Tried to reinstate 0.50mg, 5 days.

Current- feeling so bad with anxiety and hoping for help

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Also, can anyone tell me what a bad reaction would be?

 

Scared to start over on reinstatement without knowing what to be aware of.

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Lol you cold turkeyed 20mg citalopram and reinstated 2mg.

 

How could it work ? You should try to reinstate at your last dosage for it to be effective or you enter in tolerance after a few days.

 

Seem logical to me 

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Information about bad reactions would be the side effects listed in the patient information that you are supposed to receive with your prescription. The Overview and Side Effects pages at this link are from the USA FDA approved patient information: Side Effects of Citalopram.

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