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Let's Talk Withdrawal, a new weekly podcast on antidepressants


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#1 JamesMoore

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 02:35 AM

 Hi there

I'm really excited to announce the launch of a new podcast called Let's Talk Withdrawal. This podcast discusses antidepressants including withdrawal and tapering and we also talk to experts in mental healthcare for their views. The aim of the podcast is to raise awareness of the difficulties that people have when taking antidepressants. There is a hugs amount of positive promotion of antidepressants but very little about the negative side, I want to help change that balance.

The first couple of episodes are now live on iTunes and here's how to listen in...

If you have an iPhone, iPad or PC/Mac with iTunes, this link will take you to the iTunes Store where you can subscribe so each new episode will download automatically...

https://goo.gl/Yz7Zmp

Or you can also listen and download each episode here on any device...

http://jfmoore.libsyn.com/

From this point on, I will be releasing a new episode each Tuesday. If you like the podcast, please leave us a review in iTunes. 

Please feel free to share these links as widely as you can so we can get as many listening as possible. If you like the podcast, please leave us a review in iTunes as it helps to get more people listening.

I also still need people to interview for the podcast so please contact me if you wanted to tell your story on feedback@jfmoore.co.uk. Interviews are audio only via Skype and you can be anonymous of you wanted to.

Thank you

James



#2 ChessieCat

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 06:52 PM

Hi James,

 

I listened to the available ones last night.  Firstly I want to say thank you.  Secondly, fantastic job.


Let's Talk Withdrawal    Podcasts - James Moore is looking for people to tell their stories

 

Antidepressants:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (caused muscle weakness), Zoloft; Cipramil CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks soon after)

Pristiq:  50mg mid 2012, 100mg beg 2014 (mild Serotonin Toxicity)     Current:  Pristiq 28mg (from 3 March 17)

 

Tapering history & graph

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

 

I've still got a way to go ... but I've already come a long way!!!

 

PLEASE NOTE I am not a medical professional.


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Posted 11 March 2017 - 11:07 PM

Hi james ,well done on the podcast .its so exciting to have a platform like this set up to educate the wider public on what happens with these drugs.

From an on going sufferer thank u so much .  


21​/06/2012 citrol10mg for stress, constant urination ,diazepam 2mg 26/07/2012 .12/07/2012 citroll 20mg,

​24/09/2013 Lexapro 20mg.didnt take them for a week during this year felt extremely strange ,had no idea down to drugs at the time .

​20/10/2014 venlafaxine xl 75mg.09/01/2015 venlafaxine xl 37.5. questioned doctor about drop in dose ,I was told no problem.

​13/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 150mg NEVER TOOK THEM getting wise?.20/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 75mg.19/08/2015 Xanax 250mcg [agitated]

​10/06/2015 venlafaxine 37.5mg.02/03/2016 five beads out for taper only lasted till 06/06/2016 extreme irritability and anxiety. 

​11/11/2016 Xanax 250mcg took them for few days ,fairly distressing time [working nearly impossible].11/11/2016 I was given a prescription for  Zyprexa 2.5mg AND DECIDED  NOT TO GET IT FROM CHEMIST.[my doctor gave them a great sales pitch ,talking about other patients that have benefited ,in witch it just annoyed me ]


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Posted 12 March 2017 - 01:30 AM

Hi ChessieCat and powerback, thank you for you feedback and for listening in to the podcast. To get feedback from people who know how tough struggling with antidepressants is, is very important to me. I want the podcast to give real experiences and I want people that have never been near an antidepressant and GPs too to really understand that taking these drugs is not a fix or a solution, in fact for many it's the start of even more difficulties. There just isnt enough awareness and acceptance and I want to try and do something to help change that. You listening in and supporting the podcast makes a huge difference and I'm really grateful.

 

Next episode is due this coming Tuesday and I'd love to know what you think about it.

 

Thank you 

 

James



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Posted 12 March 2017 - 02:01 AM



Hi ChessieCat and powerback, thank you for you feedback and for listening in to the podcast. To get feedback from people who know how tough struggling with antidepressants is, is very important to me. I want the podcast to give real experiences and I want people that have never been near an antidepressant and GPs too to really understand that taking these drugs is not a fix or a solution, in fact for many it's the start of even more difficulties. There just isnt enough awareness and acceptance and I want to try and do something to help change that. You listening in and supporting the podcast makes a huge difference and I'm really grateful.

 

Next episode is due this coming Tuesday and I'd love to know what you think about it.

 

Thank you 

 

James

 

HI james ,when I started drugs I also did counselling and that was great for understanding my issues ,in my opinion how could a drug come near to doing the same.

I think u need to get in touch with peter breggin [I love he's radio hour ] he would love to hear about your podcast and what your doing .

Thanks again     


21​/06/2012 citrol10mg for stress, constant urination ,diazepam 2mg 26/07/2012 .12/07/2012 citroll 20mg,

​24/09/2013 Lexapro 20mg.didnt take them for a week during this year felt extremely strange ,had no idea down to drugs at the time .

​20/10/2014 venlafaxine xl 75mg.09/01/2015 venlafaxine xl 37.5. questioned doctor about drop in dose ,I was told no problem.

​13/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 150mg NEVER TOOK THEM getting wise?.20/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 75mg.19/08/2015 Xanax 250mcg [agitated]

​10/06/2015 venlafaxine 37.5mg.02/03/2016 five beads out for taper only lasted till 06/06/2016 extreme irritability and anxiety. 

​11/11/2016 Xanax 250mcg took them for few days ,fairly distressing time [working nearly impossible].11/11/2016 I was given a prescription for  Zyprexa 2.5mg AND DECIDED  NOT TO GET IT FROM CHEMIST.[my doctor gave them a great sales pitch ,talking about other patients that have benefited ,in witch it just annoyed me ]


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 11:41 PM

Another great interview, this time with a lady named Giovanna.

 

Giovanna, if you are a member here, thank you for taking part.


Let's Talk Withdrawal    Podcasts - James Moore is looking for people to tell their stories

 

Antidepressants:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (caused muscle weakness), Zoloft; Cipramil CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks soon after)

Pristiq:  50mg mid 2012, 100mg beg 2014 (mild Serotonin Toxicity)     Current:  Pristiq 28mg (from 3 March 17)

 

Tapering history & graph

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

 

I've still got a way to go ... but I've already come a long way!!!

 

PLEASE NOTE I am not a medical professional.


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Posted 14 March 2017 - 05:29 PM

... I want people that have never been near an antidepressant and GPs too to really understand that taking these drugs is not a fix or a solution, in fact for many it's the start of even more difficulties. There just isnt enough awareness and acceptance and I want to try and do something to help change that. You listening in and supporting the podcast makes a huge difference and I'm really grateful.

 

 

Dear James,

WOW. I am so, so excited to listen to this. Thank you so very much for doing this work. I think one of the many challenges in withdrawal is that the struggle is very much invisible to most of the public. Your work is going to help change that! I'm very grateful for your work!! 


Long story short: After 18 years on Paxil, "tapered" in July 2015 from 20 to 10 to 5 mg in a month, at doctor's advice. = Essentially a cold-turkey.

*Current*: March: 0.82 mg Paxil. Jan 1:  .88 mg, baby!! …. August 31: Less than 1mg Paxil! ... July 30: 1 mg Paxil! ! ! And 100 mg Zoloft unfortunately!!  

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On Paxil since 1996--anxiety & depression likely caused by (then-undiagnosed) under-eating / eating disorder. 

Rapid "taper" July 2015 and started Zoloft as a "cross-taper". Feb 2016: Found SA!! As of June 2016: Doing 2% cuts (Brassmonkey Slide!). 

Now: fish oil, magnesium; protein; exercise; healthy fats; acupuncture, meditation, & a new doctor.  I am in recovery from an eating disorder!!!  ***Have you had a sleep study?***    *Feel free to message me if I don't respond to a forum thread.* 


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Posted 14 March 2017 - 06:08 PM

Wow, 1000 downloads in the first week alone! Congrats! The need is great and this is such important work. 

 

Claire's story -- I'm just shaking my head. Being told she would need the meds for life, "just like a diabetic needs insulin."  

 

"And I don't need to be on them for life!" Yayyy! A triumph for sure. 

 

Battling suicidal thoughts -- I just want to hug her! So many hugs to you, Claire, if you're reading this. Hang in there. 


Long story short: After 18 years on Paxil, "tapered" in July 2015 from 20 to 10 to 5 mg in a month, at doctor's advice. = Essentially a cold-turkey.

*Current*: March: 0.82 mg Paxil. Jan 1:  .88 mg, baby!! …. August 31: Less than 1mg Paxil! ... July 30: 1 mg Paxil! ! ! And 100 mg Zoloft unfortunately!!  

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On Paxil since 1996--anxiety & depression likely caused by (then-undiagnosed) under-eating / eating disorder. 

Rapid "taper" July 2015 and started Zoloft as a "cross-taper". Feb 2016: Found SA!! As of June 2016: Doing 2% cuts (Brassmonkey Slide!). 

Now: fish oil, magnesium; protein; exercise; healthy fats; acupuncture, meditation, & a new doctor.  I am in recovery from an eating disorder!!!  ***Have you had a sleep study?***    *Feel free to message me if I don't respond to a forum thread.* 


#9 JamesMoore

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Posted 15 March 2017 - 12:36 AM

Hi there ChessieCat, powerback and SkyBlue Thank you so much for your feedback and thank you for listening to the podcast. I have been amazed by the support and also by the willingness of this community to step up and support each other when the going gets tough. I have recorded about 22 interviews so far, some are experts like Dr. David Healy and others are people with different experiences of taking ADs like the members here. I am really enjoying making the podcast for you and I'm so pleased to get well over 1,000 downloads inside the first week. Much more awareness of this is needed and I will keep pushing for that as long as I can.

 

Thanks so much for getting involved with this.

 

Best wishes, James



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Posted 15 March 2017 - 09:29 AM

Hi James,

 

Listened to the first couple of episodes and really enjoyed them. I commented on the first one on your site, 

 

I usually listen to podcasts from Dr. Peter Breggin (The Dr. Peter Breggin Hour) and Will Hall (Madness Radio) on Podcast Addict. Just noticed Let's Talk was available through them as well. Will be adding it to my list.

 

Thanks so much for this and keep up the good work!


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Zoloft 150-200 mg- on and off between 1998 and 2004.

 

Lexapro 40 mg - 2004-2013 30 mg 2013 - August 2015 20 mg August 2015- September 2015 15 mg September 2015 - October 2015 10 mg October 2015 -Nov. 1 2015. Nov. 2015 increased dose to 12.5 mg to stabilize. Dec. 28 2015 11.25 mg March 29, 2016 10 mg. August 1, 2016 9 mg. October 23, 2016 8.1 mg. Nov. 29, 2016 7.5 mg

 

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Posted 15 March 2017 - 11:16 AM

Hi PatriciaVP

Thanks so much for the feedback and for listening in. Everyone has been so supportive with this project, it's great. Funnily enough I interviewed Will Hall yesterday and his interview will be coming up soon. I have also written to Dr. Breggin, so I am keeping my fingers crossed. It's really good to see this kind of discussion being made available to people for free and it really does increase awareness of the issues around antidepressants. The next episode of Let's Talk Withdrawal will be available on Tuesday the 21st of March. Best wishes, James

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 10:39 PM

hi james ,great to here u have peter coming on ,this man is great .he has recently been on peter breggins radio hour and it warms my heart to hear him speak up for the countless sufferers of medication  


21​/06/2012 citrol10mg for stress, constant urination ,diazepam 2mg 26/07/2012 .12/07/2012 citroll 20mg,

​24/09/2013 Lexapro 20mg.didnt take them for a week during this year felt extremely strange ,had no idea down to drugs at the time .

​20/10/2014 venlafaxine xl 75mg.09/01/2015 venlafaxine xl 37.5. questioned doctor about drop in dose ,I was told no problem.

​13/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 150mg NEVER TOOK THEM getting wise?.20/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 75mg.19/08/2015 Xanax 250mcg [agitated]

​10/06/2015 venlafaxine 37.5mg.02/03/2016 five beads out for taper only lasted till 06/06/2016 extreme irritability and anxiety. 

​11/11/2016 Xanax 250mcg took them for few days ,fairly distressing time [working nearly impossible].11/11/2016 I was given a prescription for  Zyprexa 2.5mg AND DECIDED  NOT TO GET IT FROM CHEMIST.[my doctor gave them a great sales pitch ,talking about other patients that have benefited ,in witch it just annoyed me ]


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Posted 20 March 2017 - 02:38 AM

Thanks powerback, Peter was really generous with his time and he made the interview very easy for me. I'm glad that you are enjoying the podcast so far. Best wishes. James



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Posted 20 March 2017 - 08:00 AM

Being told she would need the meds for life, "just like a diabetic needs insulin."  

 

I had that mantra uttered to me also.


1977 - Collapse of health at 32 after 12 years of irregular and stressful shift work. 1977-84Ativan, then 1984-2002 Anafranil.  2002-13 – Effexor XL 150-187.5mg.

2014 Jan -2016 Jun. Had to raise Effexor to 225mg due external crisis.  Chronic fatigue, tiredness and low mood.  Felt I had reached a brick wall as far as medication went. 2016/6 - Blood tests, Folic acid.

2016 17Jun - Feeling better within a couple of days. 2016 13Jul  -  212.5mg Effexor. (-5.5%). 2016  6Aug  - 200.0mg Effexor. (-5.9%) 24Aug - 187.5mg Effexor. (-6.3%). 13Sep – 175.0mg Effexor (-6.7% .   Folic acid finished after 80 days.  Feeling best for a couple of years. 22Sep – GP Prescribed 5mg Folic Acid/day tfn.   3Oct   - 162.5mg Effexor (-7.1%)  7mg Omeprazole.   2016 15Oct -disappointing to hit extreme fatigue again after 3.5 months, by 23Oct not bad again, despite having cold and old familiar sinusitis. 26Oct - 150mg Effexor (-7.7%). 3mg Omeprazole. 31Oct - 2mg Omeprazole, off 5mg Folic Acid. 7Nov - ZERO Omeprazole.

2017 9Jan - 150mg Effexor. Stalled at this dose for >2 mo.  Will only resume later in year when mood lifts.  23Mar - 137.5mg Effexor.

 

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Posted 21 March 2017 - 07:29 AM

Thanks peng, me too, there are so many myths that are used to justify these drugs it's ridiculous.

I wondered what people thought of Professor Gøtzsche in episode 4, he certainly didn't pull his punches in the interview!

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Posted 21 March 2017 - 08:29 AM

This is one fantastic Podcast!!!


Jun '09-Aug '12: 10mg Paxil for severe insomnia due to anxiety. Also took Ambien/Trazodone for sleep.  

Sep'12: 1st attempt to get off, naively tried cold turkey per Dr. suggestion. Couldn't work for 2 months. Another Doc upped dose to 20mg.

Oct'12-Sep'15: 20mg Paxil

Sep'15: tried to come off slower. Used fish oil, vit D3, and regular exercise/healthy diet to assist. (Taper sched= 18mg for 60days, 15mg for 60d, 10mg for 30d, 8mg for 30d) At my 3rd week of 8mg in Nov '15, insomnia and panic attacks began. Back up to 20mg after a month of horrible withdrawal. 

Mar '16: began taper from 20mg- decreasing .5mg or less each month 

 

Mar'17: 14mg Paxil, Westhroid (thyroid), fish oil, vit D3, Adrenal support, and Magnesium/Trazodone as needed for anxiety/sleep. Gluten-free & dairy free diet.  

 

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Posted 21 March 2017 - 09:25 AM

Thanks peng, me too, there are so many myths that are used to justify these drugs it's ridiculous.

I wondered what people thought of Professor Gøtzsche in episode 4, he certainly didn't pull his punches in the interview!

 

It was fantastic, I am so pleased god made that man.

 

This is one fantastic Podcast!!!

Ditto'd Totally agree This is Fantastic! thank you


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Posted 21 March 2017 - 11:22 AM

Thanks megb and fema4psychiatrists I'm so glad that you are finding the podcast interesting.

I am really enjoying making it for you, when interviewing Professor Gøtzsche I had to stop myself shouting YES after everything he said

Also this coming Friday we have an interview with a PSSD sufferer, it's such a little known about condition and a very difficult one to speak out about.

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 06:58 AM

lol you had to stop yourself shouting yes haha I know what you mean. Justice, rights, ethics and days in court are not for mental patients. Nobody is used to hearing that. But they should have standards, and ethics. Like everyone else. The standards of ethics is extremely low, ruining real peoples lives over a perceived 'belief' in the name of medicine is tyrannical not healing people and medicine, it's a form of self-interest.


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Posted 22 March 2017 - 09:34 AM

Hi James, I listened to your podcast that interviewed Dr Peter Gotzsche, which was very interesting indeed. Thank you for providing this information so that anybody can listen if they wish to.

After many years on antidepressants I'm now trying the taper method of withdrawal ( something I had never heard of before).

Finding the Survivingandipressants website too has given me tremendous encouragement.

I had previously tried 4 times to come off Prozac but found that I was even more anxious and depressed than I was when I began the tablets in the first place. Then being told that was why I needed to take this medication. Now with the information I find here, I can feel confident in having another go at reducing Prozac.