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#1 JamesMoore

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 02:35 AM

 Hi there

I'm really excited to announce the launch of a new podcast called Let's Talk Withdrawal. This podcast discusses antidepressants including withdrawal and tapering and we also talk to experts in mental healthcare for their views. The aim of the podcast is to raise awareness of the difficulties that people have when taking antidepressants. There is a hugs amount of positive promotion of antidepressants but very little about the negative side, I want to help change that balance.

The first couple of episodes are now live on iTunes and here's how to listen in...

If you have an iPhone, iPad or PC/Mac with iTunes, this link will take you to the iTunes Store where you can subscribe so each new episode will download automatically...

https://goo.gl/Yz7Zmp

Or you can also listen and download each episode here on any device...

http://jfmoore.libsyn.com/

From this point on, I will be releasing a new episode each Tuesday. If you like the podcast, please leave us a review in iTunes. 

Please feel free to share these links as widely as you can so we can get as many listening as possible. If you like the podcast, please leave us a review in iTunes as it helps to get more people listening.

I also still need people to interview for the podcast so please contact me if you wanted to tell your story on feedback@jfmoore.co.uk. Interviews are audio only via Skype and you can be anonymous of you wanted to.

Thank you

James



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Posted 11 March 2017 - 06:52 PM

Hi James,

 

I listened to the available ones last night.  Firstly I want to say thank you.  Secondly, fantastic job.


Podcasts:    Let's Talk Withdrawal

 

Antidepressants:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (caused muscle weakness), Zoloft; Cipramil CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks soon after)

Pristiq:  50mg mid 2012, 100mg beg 2014 (mild Serotonin Toxicity)     Current:  Pristiq 25mg (from 21 April 2017)

 

Tapering history & graph

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

 

I've still got a way to go ... but I've already come a long way!!!

 

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.


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Posted 11 March 2017 - 11:07 PM

Hi james ,well done on the podcast .its so exciting to have a platform like this set up to educate the wider public on what happens with these drugs.

From an on going sufferer thank u so much .  


21​/06/2012 citrol10mg for stress, constant urination ,diazepam 2mg 26/07/2012 .12/07/2012 citroll 20mg,

​24/09/2013 Lexapro 20mg.didnt take them for a week during this year felt extremely strange ,had no idea down to drugs at the time .

​20/10/2014 venlafaxine xl 75mg.09/01/2015 venlafaxine xl 37.5. questioned doctor about drop in dose ,I was told no problem.

​13/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 150mg NEVER TOOK THEM getting wise?.20/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 75mg.19/08/2015 Xanax 250mcg [agitated]

​10/06/2015 venlafaxine 37.5mg.02/03/2016 five beads out for taper only lasted till 06/06/2016 extreme irritability and anxiety. 

​11/11/2016 Xanax 250mcg took them for few days ,fairly distressing time [working nearly impossible].11/11/2016 I was given a prescription for  Zyprexa 2.5mg AND DECIDED  NOT TO GET IT FROM CHEMIST.[my doctor gave them a great sales pitch ,talking about other patients that have benefited ,in witch it just annoyed me ]


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Posted 12 March 2017 - 01:30 AM

Hi ChessieCat and powerback, thank you for you feedback and for listening in to the podcast. To get feedback from people who know how tough struggling with antidepressants is, is very important to me. I want the podcast to give real experiences and I want people that have never been near an antidepressant and GPs too to really understand that taking these drugs is not a fix or a solution, in fact for many it's the start of even more difficulties. There just isnt enough awareness and acceptance and I want to try and do something to help change that. You listening in and supporting the podcast makes a huge difference and I'm really grateful.

 

Next episode is due this coming Tuesday and I'd love to know what you think about it.

 

Thank you 

 

James



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Posted 12 March 2017 - 02:01 AM



Hi ChessieCat and powerback, thank you for you feedback and for listening in to the podcast. To get feedback from people who know how tough struggling with antidepressants is, is very important to me. I want the podcast to give real experiences and I want people that have never been near an antidepressant and GPs too to really understand that taking these drugs is not a fix or a solution, in fact for many it's the start of even more difficulties. There just isnt enough awareness and acceptance and I want to try and do something to help change that. You listening in and supporting the podcast makes a huge difference and I'm really grateful.

 

Next episode is due this coming Tuesday and I'd love to know what you think about it.

 

Thank you 

 

James

 

HI james ,when I started drugs I also did counselling and that was great for understanding my issues ,in my opinion how could a drug come near to doing the same.

I think u need to get in touch with peter breggin [I love he's radio hour ] he would love to hear about your podcast and what your doing .

Thanks again     


21​/06/2012 citrol10mg for stress, constant urination ,diazepam 2mg 26/07/2012 .12/07/2012 citroll 20mg,

​24/09/2013 Lexapro 20mg.didnt take them for a week during this year felt extremely strange ,had no idea down to drugs at the time .

​20/10/2014 venlafaxine xl 75mg.09/01/2015 venlafaxine xl 37.5. questioned doctor about drop in dose ,I was told no problem.

​13/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 150mg NEVER TOOK THEM getting wise?.20/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 75mg.19/08/2015 Xanax 250mcg [agitated]

​10/06/2015 venlafaxine 37.5mg.02/03/2016 five beads out for taper only lasted till 06/06/2016 extreme irritability and anxiety. 

​11/11/2016 Xanax 250mcg took them for few days ,fairly distressing time [working nearly impossible].11/11/2016 I was given a prescription for  Zyprexa 2.5mg AND DECIDED  NOT TO GET IT FROM CHEMIST.[my doctor gave them a great sales pitch ,talking about other patients that have benefited ,in witch it just annoyed me ]


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 11:41 PM

Another great interview, this time with a lady named Giovanna.

 

Giovanna, if you are a member here, thank you for taking part.


Podcasts:    Let's Talk Withdrawal

 

Antidepressants:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (caused muscle weakness), Zoloft; Cipramil CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks soon after)

Pristiq:  50mg mid 2012, 100mg beg 2014 (mild Serotonin Toxicity)     Current:  Pristiq 25mg (from 21 April 2017)

 

Tapering history & graph

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

 

I've still got a way to go ... but I've already come a long way!!!

 

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.


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Posted 14 March 2017 - 05:29 PM

... I want people that have never been near an antidepressant and GPs too to really understand that taking these drugs is not a fix or a solution, in fact for many it's the start of even more difficulties. There just isnt enough awareness and acceptance and I want to try and do something to help change that. You listening in and supporting the podcast makes a huge difference and I'm really grateful.

 

 

Dear James,

WOW. I am so, so excited to listen to this. Thank you so very much for doing this work. I think one of the many challenges in withdrawal is that the struggle is very much invisible to most of the public. Your work is going to help change that! I'm very grateful for your work!! 


Long story short: After 18 years on Paxil, "tapered" in July 2015 from 20 to 10 to 5 mg in a month, at doctor's advice. = Essentially a cold-turkey.

*Current*: March: 0.82 mg Paxil. Jan 1:  .88 mg, baby!! …. August 31: Less than 1mg Paxil! ... July 30: 1 mg Paxil! ! ! And 100 mg Zoloft unfortunately!!  

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On Paxil since 1996--anxiety & depression likely caused by (then-undiagnosed) under-eating / eating disorder. 

Rapid "taper" July 2015 and started Zoloft as a "cross-taper". Feb 2016: Found SA!! As of June 2016: Doing 2% cuts (Brassmonkey Slide!). 

Now: fish oil, magnesium; protein; exercise; healthy fats; acupuncture, meditation, & a new doctor.  I am in recovery from an eating disorder!!!  ***Have you had a sleep study?***    *Feel free to message me if I don't respond to a forum thread.* 


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Posted 14 March 2017 - 06:08 PM

Wow, 1000 downloads in the first week alone! Congrats! The need is great and this is such important work. 

 

Claire's story -- I'm just shaking my head. Being told she would need the meds for life, "just like a diabetic needs insulin."  

 

"And I don't need to be on them for life!" Yayyy! A triumph for sure. 

 

Battling suicidal thoughts -- I just want to hug her! So many hugs to you, Claire, if you're reading this. Hang in there. 


Long story short: After 18 years on Paxil, "tapered" in July 2015 from 20 to 10 to 5 mg in a month, at doctor's advice. = Essentially a cold-turkey.

*Current*: March: 0.82 mg Paxil. Jan 1:  .88 mg, baby!! …. August 31: Less than 1mg Paxil! ... July 30: 1 mg Paxil! ! ! And 100 mg Zoloft unfortunately!!  

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On Paxil since 1996--anxiety & depression likely caused by (then-undiagnosed) under-eating / eating disorder. 

Rapid "taper" July 2015 and started Zoloft as a "cross-taper". Feb 2016: Found SA!! As of June 2016: Doing 2% cuts (Brassmonkey Slide!). 

Now: fish oil, magnesium; protein; exercise; healthy fats; acupuncture, meditation, & a new doctor.  I am in recovery from an eating disorder!!!  ***Have you had a sleep study?***    *Feel free to message me if I don't respond to a forum thread.* 


#9 JamesMoore

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Posted 15 March 2017 - 12:36 AM

Hi there ChessieCat, powerback and SkyBlue Thank you so much for your feedback and thank you for listening to the podcast. I have been amazed by the support and also by the willingness of this community to step up and support each other when the going gets tough. I have recorded about 22 interviews so far, some are experts like Dr. David Healy and others are people with different experiences of taking ADs like the members here. I am really enjoying making the podcast for you and I'm so pleased to get well over 1,000 downloads inside the first week. Much more awareness of this is needed and I will keep pushing for that as long as I can.

 

Thanks so much for getting involved with this.

 

Best wishes, James



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Posted 15 March 2017 - 09:29 AM

Hi James,

 

Listened to the first couple of episodes and really enjoyed them. I commented on the first one on your site, 

 

I usually listen to podcasts from Dr. Peter Breggin (The Dr. Peter Breggin Hour) and Will Hall (Madness Radio) on Podcast Addict. Just noticed Let's Talk was available through them as well. Will be adding it to my list.

 

Thanks so much for this and keep up the good work!


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Lexapro 40 mg - 2004-2013 30 mg 2013 - August 2015 20 mg August 2015- September 2015 15 mg September 2015 - October 2015 10 mg October 2015 -Nov. 1 2015. Nov. 2015 increased dose to 12.5 mg to stabilize. Dec. 28 2015 11.25 mg March 29, 2016 10 mg. August 1, 2016 9 mg. October 23, 2016 8.1 mg. Nov. 29, 2016 7.5 mg

 

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Posted 15 March 2017 - 11:16 AM

Hi PatriciaVP

Thanks so much for the feedback and for listening in. Everyone has been so supportive with this project, it's great. Funnily enough I interviewed Will Hall yesterday and his interview will be coming up soon. I have also written to Dr. Breggin, so I am keeping my fingers crossed. It's really good to see this kind of discussion being made available to people for free and it really does increase awareness of the issues around antidepressants. The next episode of Let's Talk Withdrawal will be available on Tuesday the 21st of March. Best wishes, James

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 10:39 PM

hi james ,great to here u have peter coming on ,this man is great .he has recently been on peter breggins radio hour and it warms my heart to hear him speak up for the countless sufferers of medication  


21​/06/2012 citrol10mg for stress, constant urination ,diazepam 2mg 26/07/2012 .12/07/2012 citroll 20mg,

​24/09/2013 Lexapro 20mg.didnt take them for a week during this year felt extremely strange ,had no idea down to drugs at the time .

​20/10/2014 venlafaxine xl 75mg.09/01/2015 venlafaxine xl 37.5. questioned doctor about drop in dose ,I was told no problem.

​13/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 150mg NEVER TOOK THEM getting wise?.20/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 75mg.19/08/2015 Xanax 250mcg [agitated]

​10/06/2015 venlafaxine 37.5mg.02/03/2016 five beads out for taper only lasted till 06/06/2016 extreme irritability and anxiety. 

​11/11/2016 Xanax 250mcg took them for few days ,fairly distressing time [working nearly impossible].11/11/2016 I was given a prescription for  Zyprexa 2.5mg AND DECIDED  NOT TO GET IT FROM CHEMIST.[my doctor gave them a great sales pitch ,talking about other patients that have benefited ,in witch it just annoyed me ]


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Posted 20 March 2017 - 02:38 AM

Thanks powerback, Peter was really generous with his time and he made the interview very easy for me. I'm glad that you are enjoying the podcast so far. Best wishes. James



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Posted 20 March 2017 - 08:00 AM

Being told she would need the meds for life, "just like a diabetic needs insulin."  

 

I had that mantra uttered to me also.


1977 - Collapse of health at 32 after 12 years of irregular and stressful shift work. 1977-84Ativan, then 1984-2002 Anafranil.  2002-13 – Effexor XL 150-187.5mg.

2014 Jan -2016 Jun. Had to raise Effexor to 225mg due external crisis.  Chronic fatigue, tiredness and low mood.  Felt I had reached a brick wall as far as medication went. 2016/6 - Blood tests, Folic acid.

2016 17Jun - Feeling better within a couple of days. 2016 13Jul  -  212.5mg Effexor. (-5.5%). 2016  6Aug  - 200.0mg Effexor. (-5.9%) 24Aug - 187.5mg Effexor. (-6.3%). 13Sep – 175.0mg Effexor (-6.7% .   Folic acid finished after 80 days.  Feeling best for a couple of years. 22Sep – GP Prescribed 5mg Folic Acid/day tfn.   3Oct   - 162.5mg Effexor (-7.1%)  7mg Omeprazole.   2016 15Oct -disappointing to hit extreme fatigue again after 3.5 months, by 23Oct not bad again, despite having cold and old familiar sinusitis. 26Oct - 150mg Effexor (-7.7%). 3mg Omeprazole. 31Oct - 2mg Omeprazole, off 5mg Folic Acid. 7Nov - ZERO Omeprazole.

2017 9Jan - 150mg Effexor. Stalled at this dose for >2 mo.  Will only resume later in year when mood lifts.  23Mar - 137.5mg Effexor.

 

Current other meds/Supps/Vits

540mg EPA /day - 280mg Magnesium Malate - Vit D, Probiotic. Honey instead of table sugar in tea and coffee, wef Oct16 and after taking sugar nearly all my life.

 


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Posted 21 March 2017 - 07:29 AM

Thanks peng, me too, there are so many myths that are used to justify these drugs it's ridiculous.

I wondered what people thought of Professor Gøtzsche in episode 4, he certainly didn't pull his punches in the interview!

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Posted 21 March 2017 - 08:29 AM

This is one fantastic Podcast!!!


Jun '09-Aug '12: 10mg Paxil for severe insomnia due to anxiety. Also took Ambien/Trazodone for sleep.  

Sep'12: 1st attempt to get off, naively tried cold turkey per Dr. suggestion. Couldn't work for 2 months. Another Doc upped dose to 20mg.

Oct'12-Sep'15: 20mg Paxil

Sep'15: tried to come off slower. Used fish oil, vit D3, and regular exercise/healthy diet to assist. (Taper sched= 18mg for 60days, 15mg for 60d, 10mg for 30d, 8mg for 30d) At my 3rd week of 8mg in Nov '15, insomnia and panic attacks began. Back up to 20mg after a month of horrible withdrawal. 

Mar '16: began taper from 20mg- decreasing .5mg or less each month 

 

Apr' 17: 13.5mg Paxil, Westhroid, fish oil, vit D3, Adrenal support, and 8-12.5mg Trazodone as needed for sleep. Gluten-free & dairy free.  

 

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Posted 21 March 2017 - 09:25 AM

Thanks peng, me too, there are so many myths that are used to justify these drugs it's ridiculous.

I wondered what people thought of Professor Gøtzsche in episode 4, he certainly didn't pull his punches in the interview!

 

It was fantastic, I am so pleased god made that man.

 

This is one fantastic Podcast!!!

Ditto'd Totally agree This is Fantastic! thank you


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Posted 21 March 2017 - 11:22 AM

Thanks megb and fema4psychiatrists I'm so glad that you are finding the podcast interesting.

I am really enjoying making it for you, when interviewing Professor Gøtzsche I had to stop myself shouting YES after everything he said

Also this coming Friday we have an interview with a PSSD sufferer, it's such a little known about condition and a very difficult one to speak out about.

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 06:58 AM

lol you had to stop yourself shouting yes haha I know what you mean. Justice, rights, ethics and days in court are not for mental patients. Nobody is used to hearing that. But they should have standards, and ethics. Like everyone else. The standards of ethics is extremely low, ruining real peoples lives over a perceived 'belief' in the name of medicine is tyrannical not healing people and medicine, it's a form of self-interest.


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All permanent

 

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http://pssdblog.blogspot.com


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Posted 22 March 2017 - 09:34 AM

Hi James, I listened to your podcast that interviewed Dr Peter Gotzsche, which was very interesting indeed. Thank you for providing this information so that anybody can listen if they wish to.

After many years on antidepressants I'm now trying the taper method of withdrawal ( something I had never heard of before).

Finding the Survivingandipressants website too has given me tremendous encouragement.

I had previously tried 4 times to come off Prozac but found that I was even more anxious and depressed than I was when I began the tablets in the first place. Then being told that was why I needed to take this medication. Now with the information I find here, I can feel confident in having another go at reducing Prozac.
From 2000 onwards - Prozac 20 mg daily. Numerous attempts to come off have been disastrous - extreme anxiety, depression , feelings of unreality, etc. Wasn't aware of tapering and came off them over a period of 2 or 3 months. Back on Prozac.

2005 - 2007 Tried Citalopram, 20mg. But switched back to Prozac because of side effects.

2007 - 20015 Prozac, 20mg. Have tried 4 times to come off. Taking about 3 months to taper. But it always took about another 3 months for side effects to begin, by then I was told it was my depression returning again. My mental state was intolerable. So, returned to 20mg daily.

February 2016 - February 2017. Have reduced gradually from 20mg to13mg daily. Discovered the 10% taper method. However, I'm going a lot slower than that! Ready to go to 10mg daily from June onwards.

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Posted 26 March 2017 - 01:51 AM

Thanks so much all of you for your feedback, I really appreciate you taking the time to listen. In Episode 5 this week, I interview Daryl who was only 9 years old when he was taken into mental health services and medicated. He talks about being made to take both antidepressant and antipsychotic drugs and he describes the lies told to him to justify treatment. Daryl also talks very bravely about PSSD, Post SSRI Sexual Dysfunction.

 

Also this website gets a mention in the support resources section. Like many of you here I have found it invaluable to be part of this community and knowing that I have somewhere to turn when the medical 'experts' don't know what advice to give is comforting.

 

I'd love your thoughts on the episode.

 

You can listen here

goo.gl/mG7qkR

 

There is more information about PSSD on Daryl's blog, which can be found here...

http://pssdblog.blog...p/pssd-blog.htm

 

As for the podcast, a new episode will go live on Tuesday 28 March and I have now also created a Facebook group that supports the podcast. In this group I will announce who the guests are, and there are discussions about the issues raised both by users and by the experts that I interview. I'd love it if you could join the group, you would be very welcome.

 

https://www.facebook...44581415686477/

 

Thanks so much for all of your feedback and my best wishes to anyone struggling with withdrawal.

 

James



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Posted 26 March 2017 - 02:31 AM

I was shocked and saddened by Daryl's experience.  I appreciate his willingness to talk openly and honestly about such a delicate topic.


Podcasts:    Let's Talk Withdrawal

 

Antidepressants:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (caused muscle weakness), Zoloft; Cipramil CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks soon after)

Pristiq:  50mg mid 2012, 100mg beg 2014 (mild Serotonin Toxicity)     Current:  Pristiq 25mg (from 21 April 2017)

 

Tapering history & graph

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

 

I've still got a way to go ... but I've already come a long way!!!

 

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.


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Posted 26 March 2017 - 02:36 AM

Nice work, James. 


1977 - Collapse of health at 32 after 12 years of irregular and stressful shift work. 1977-84Ativan, then 1984-2002 Anafranil.  2002-13 – Effexor XL 150-187.5mg.

2014 Jan -2016 Jun. Had to raise Effexor to 225mg due external crisis.  Chronic fatigue, tiredness and low mood.  Felt I had reached a brick wall as far as medication went. 2016/6 - Blood tests, Folic acid.

2016 17Jun - Feeling better within a couple of days. 2016 13Jul  -  212.5mg Effexor. (-5.5%). 2016  6Aug  - 200.0mg Effexor. (-5.9%) 24Aug - 187.5mg Effexor. (-6.3%). 13Sep – 175.0mg Effexor (-6.7% .   Folic acid finished after 80 days.  Feeling best for a couple of years. 22Sep – GP Prescribed 5mg Folic Acid/day tfn.   3Oct   - 162.5mg Effexor (-7.1%)  7mg Omeprazole.   2016 15Oct -disappointing to hit extreme fatigue again after 3.5 months, by 23Oct not bad again, despite having cold and old familiar sinusitis. 26Oct - 150mg Effexor (-7.7%). 3mg Omeprazole. 31Oct - 2mg Omeprazole, off 5mg Folic Acid. 7Nov - ZERO Omeprazole.

2017 9Jan - 150mg Effexor. Stalled at this dose for >2 mo.  Will only resume later in year when mood lifts.  23Mar - 137.5mg Effexor.

 

Current other meds/Supps/Vits

540mg EPA /day - 280mg Magnesium Malate - Vit D, Probiotic. Honey instead of table sugar in tea and coffee, wef Oct16 and after taking sugar nearly all my life.

 


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Posted 26 March 2017 - 03:38 AM

Thanks so much Prince1924, JessieCat and Peng, I am really grateful to you for listening in and for supporting me with the podcast. Because of this amazing, supportive community we are now approaching 3,000 downloads!

 

Currently working hard on the next episode due Tuesday 28th March.



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Posted 27 March 2017 - 08:19 PM

Hi James

Havent got round to listening to the latest audios as yet but wanted to thank you for all you are doing.

Thankyou so much.

regards

nz11


2000 amitryptaline, nortriptaline venlafaxine clonazepam for  arm pain from keyboard use, told I had a chemical imbalance it would fix my arm was just a matter of finding the right med for me not informed of the nature of these drugs assured safe and not addictive, CT off Effexor after being told to double the dose on reporting adverse effects...later ..uncharacteristic psych panic tearful presented to doctor to get answers. Given paroxetine no questions asked 'safe and not addictive' next please.2001-2010 paroxetine (paxil) 2 failed attempts to quit, a learned helplessness set in. Feb 10 - Sept 10,  8 month clueless taper, hell. Doc said I had underlying depression .. I said that's not right' then found online support group and the truth!...overcome with inconceivable humiliation and outrage. 28 Sept 10 drug free ...  daily psych and emotional torture beginning in the waking hours of the morning receding somewhat in the evening only to start up again the next day. 28 Sept 12 (24 months) Stabilizing  (What an indescribable unimaginable non-functional nightmare). sleep issues start up at 3 yrs  waking daily at 2am -4.30am), April 2016 return to sport for the first time since drug free, Sept 16 return to work on casual basis.  28 Sept 16 (6yrs drug free), still cant sleep with any regularity, pssd continues no sign of improvement, still feel Rip van Winkle-ish, brain fog still improving, psoriasis concerns.

 

"It is unsafe for people who suffer from something that could be treated with an ssri to consult a psychiatrist." Gotzshe 2015. [ I think Gotzsche could have easily meant to say 'to consult anyone with prescribing privileges']. "Going to a psychiatrist is one of the most dangerous actions a person can take." Breggin

 

“Paroxetine is not safe, it is not effective and it meets every known definition of addictive.” McLaren, N, (2016) 'Psychiatry as bullsh*t’ p55..."Psychiatry is stuffed full of 'deep nonsense' better known as bullsh*t." McLaren 2016

 

"Within the first week of when you go on an antidepressant you may have a sexual dysfunction, it can go on forever, often only appearing when you go off the drug ...its extraordinarily common" Healy 2015

 

See  my intro post #451 for the xanax back story and for a CV -GSKs.  Come on guys get taperwise see a TaperMe Schedule

 For a staggeringly shocking 'prozac back story' see the truth post #523

 

"If I were an enemy combatant and the NZ army did this to me someone would be dragged to the Hague and jailed!"  nz11


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Posted 27 March 2017 - 11:53 PM

Thank you James for spreading this information.

 

Listening to Daryl's story is truly disturbing.

 

It seems that the message is slowly getting out there a little.  There are two articles on the topic in today's Daily Mail which I have posted in the Media section of SA.

 

Looking forward to the next podcast.


cannabis: Spring 2002 - Dec. 2007; regularly smoked, stopped cold turkey; symptoms: paranoid and depressed

Paroxetine: 20 mg July 2008, 40 mg October, 20 mg spring 2009, 0 mg summer 2009

Depakote (sodium valproate): October 2008 - Spring 2009

Haloperdidol 1 week Oct. 2008, H caused seizures, went to A&E;  stopped taking it.

Citalopram few weeks in the fall of 2009 to deal with withdrawal symptoms from stopping paroxetine

Paroxetine round 2: 20 mg Feb - summer 2010 -20mg don't remeber if I went up to 40mg

Venlafaxine & sodium valproate (again): Sep 2010 - Summer 2012  

SERTRALINE: November 2012 - May 2016 , 50-100mg (few days @ 150mg in Summer '15). a complete freak out at the end of April. 

May 2016 Prescribed Lithium and Abilify HAVE NOT TAKEN

No medications May 2016 - October 2016

Hospitalised - November 13th 2016 - Prescribed 15 mg Mirtazapine/Remeron which was taken until  6th December 2016, decreased to 7.5 mg

Reducing since 24 December 2016.  Now taking approx. 1.25 mg & CBT weekly


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Posted 28 March 2017 - 03:45 AM

Thanks so much Distraut and nz11, you are right, there is more attention being paid to these issues but we need more.

 

As for the podcast, there's a new episode today. This week, we interview Dr. Terry Lynch who is a GP, psychotherapist, author and mental health educator. Ten years into his career as a GP, he became very concerned about the medical approach to emotional and mental suffering and was not prepared to remain silent. In 2001 he released the book Beyond Prozac: Healing Mental Distress, a best-seller in Ireland in 2001 and shortlisted for the MIND (UK) 2002 Book of the Year Award. Terry has worked tirelessly to expose the myth of the chemical imbalance and other psychiatric falsehoods. In 2015, he released The Depression Delusion: The Myth of the Brain Chemical Imbalance. Dr. Lynch spoke to me and helped me understand why modern psychiatry has pursued a purely medical approach to distress with terrible consequences. 

Dr. Lynch was very generous with his time and vey gracious in answering my questions, we covered a lot of ground in a fascinating and informative interview. I’d love your thoughts on this episode.

Here are the relevant links:

To listen in iTunes: goo.gl/Yz7Zmp

Or else listen here: goo.gl/mG7qkR

Doctor Lynch’s website:

http://doctorterrylynch.com

Doctor Lynch’s latest article, What is bipolar disorder:

http://doctorterryly...polar-disorder/

 

Thanks to anyone who takes the time to listen in.

 

Best wishes

 

James



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Posted 28 March 2017 - 03:48 AM

hi James just listened to Dr lynch ,great guest to have on ,sadly we need at least a thousand more like him ,he could really change this disgusting industry of over prescribing.
I got in touch with him a year ago and found him very helpful and engaging .

I did one of he's online courses and it was very informative , especially about defense mechanisms we build up around us ,this was great for me to realise about myself , basically all my pain and emotional wounds, i was protecting myself ,how in the world is a drug going to ever make me realise that.
He sent me by email a few afermations and i try to read them out aloud to myself ,I'm still getting used to them ,after years of a negative self critic ,it takes time to talk posetivly to myself ha.
We'll keep up the great work .

21​/06/2012 citrol10mg for stress, constant urination ,diazepam 2mg 26/07/2012 .12/07/2012 citroll 20mg,

​24/09/2013 Lexapro 20mg.didnt take them for a week during this year felt extremely strange ,had no idea down to drugs at the time .

​20/10/2014 venlafaxine xl 75mg.09/01/2015 venlafaxine xl 37.5. questioned doctor about drop in dose ,I was told no problem.

​13/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 150mg NEVER TOOK THEM getting wise?.20/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 75mg.19/08/2015 Xanax 250mcg [agitated]

​10/06/2015 venlafaxine 37.5mg.02/03/2016 five beads out for taper only lasted till 06/06/2016 extreme irritability and anxiety. 

​11/11/2016 Xanax 250mcg took them for few days ,fairly distressing time [working nearly impossible].11/11/2016 I was given a prescription for  Zyprexa 2.5mg AND DECIDED  NOT TO GET IT FROM CHEMIST.[my doctor gave them a great sales pitch ,talking about other patients that have benefited ,in witch it just annoyed me ]


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Posted 28 March 2017 - 05:09 AM

Thanks so much Powerback, Dr. Lynch was brilliant, especially as a GP because more often than not its GPs who see patients first and that's generally when you get put onto ADs. Not the case for everyone of course but in the UK, it's mainly GPs that are prescribing the vast majority of ADs even before patients get to see a Psychiatrist.

 

We have more interesting experts coming up as well as more user stories too. I'm determined to get the message out. Thanks so much for listening in.

 

Best wishes

 

James



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Posted 28 March 2017 - 06:34 AM

That was a great honest interview! Really recommend people check this one out! Hopefully there will be more Doctors like him.


Cocktail drugged since 9

Genitals went numb

Extreme intestinal gas and pain

Extreme anxiety cant concentrate

All permanent

 

Post-SSRI Sexual Dysfunction (PSSD)

http://pssdblog.blogspot.com


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Posted 31 March 2017 - 12:12 AM

Wow James i see you just interviewed David Healy how excellent.

You sure are getting the rock stars to talk to.

What about getting an interview with Shipko too?

 

Great going.

nz11


2000 amitryptaline, nortriptaline venlafaxine clonazepam for  arm pain from keyboard use, told I had a chemical imbalance it would fix my arm was just a matter of finding the right med for me not informed of the nature of these drugs assured safe and not addictive, CT off Effexor after being told to double the dose on reporting adverse effects...later ..uncharacteristic psych panic tearful presented to doctor to get answers. Given paroxetine no questions asked 'safe and not addictive' next please.2001-2010 paroxetine (paxil) 2 failed attempts to quit, a learned helplessness set in. Feb 10 - Sept 10,  8 month clueless taper, hell. Doc said I had underlying depression .. I said that's not right' then found online support group and the truth!...overcome with inconceivable humiliation and outrage. 28 Sept 10 drug free ...  daily psych and emotional torture beginning in the waking hours of the morning receding somewhat in the evening only to start up again the next day. 28 Sept 12 (24 months) Stabilizing  (What an indescribable unimaginable non-functional nightmare). sleep issues start up at 3 yrs  waking daily at 2am -4.30am), April 2016 return to sport for the first time since drug free, Sept 16 return to work on casual basis.  28 Sept 16 (6yrs drug free), still cant sleep with any regularity, pssd continues no sign of improvement, still feel Rip van Winkle-ish, brain fog still improving, psoriasis concerns.

 

"It is unsafe for people who suffer from something that could be treated with an ssri to consult a psychiatrist." Gotzshe 2015. [ I think Gotzsche could have easily meant to say 'to consult anyone with prescribing privileges']. "Going to a psychiatrist is one of the most dangerous actions a person can take." Breggin

 

“Paroxetine is not safe, it is not effective and it meets every known definition of addictive.” McLaren, N, (2016) 'Psychiatry as bullsh*t’ p55..."Psychiatry is stuffed full of 'deep nonsense' better known as bullsh*t." McLaren 2016

 

"Within the first week of when you go on an antidepressant you may have a sexual dysfunction, it can go on forever, often only appearing when you go off the drug ...its extraordinarily common" Healy 2015

 

See  my intro post #451 for the xanax back story and for a CV -GSKs.  Come on guys get taperwise see a TaperMe Schedule

 For a staggeringly shocking 'prozac back story' see the truth post #523

 

"If I were an enemy combatant and the NZ army did this to me someone would be dragged to the Hague and jailed!"  nz11


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Posted 31 March 2017 - 12:33 AM

Great interview with Dr Terry Lynch, James.

 

Well done.


cannabis: Spring 2002 - Dec. 2007; regularly smoked, stopped cold turkey; symptoms: paranoid and depressed

Paroxetine: 20 mg July 2008, 40 mg October, 20 mg spring 2009, 0 mg summer 2009

Depakote (sodium valproate): October 2008 - Spring 2009

Haloperdidol 1 week Oct. 2008, H caused seizures, went to A&E;  stopped taking it.

Citalopram few weeks in the fall of 2009 to deal with withdrawal symptoms from stopping paroxetine

Paroxetine round 2: 20 mg Feb - summer 2010 -20mg don't remeber if I went up to 40mg

Venlafaxine & sodium valproate (again): Sep 2010 - Summer 2012  

SERTRALINE: November 2012 - May 2016 , 50-100mg (few days @ 150mg in Summer '15). a complete freak out at the end of April. 

May 2016 Prescribed Lithium and Abilify HAVE NOT TAKEN

No medications May 2016 - October 2016

Hospitalised - November 13th 2016 - Prescribed 15 mg Mirtazapine/Remeron which was taken until  6th December 2016, decreased to 7.5 mg

Reducing since 24 December 2016.  Now taking approx. 1.25 mg & CBT weekly


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Posted 31 March 2017 - 03:55 AM

Hi all, thanks so much for your comments and feedback, it's really important to me that the podcast speaks both to people like us who have lived this and also to people who have not yet encountered psychiatric drugs.

@nz11 will certainly ask Dr. Shipko for an interview, thanks for the heads up.
@distraut @fema4psychiatrists thank you so much for the feedback.

Interviewing Dr. Healy was a real honour and he was great to talk to as have been everyone I have chatted with so far.

If there are specific people you think I should be talking to or particular issue that you'd like raised then please let me know, I can't promise but I will do my very best to fit it all in. This podcast is for this courageous and passionate community and I want you be able to influence what we cover in future.

Thanks so much for listening in. Next episode goes live next Tuesday and it's quite different to what has been covered before.

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 04:10 AM

You keep pulling the hats out of the bag with these interviews! Finally a platform where real life isn't pharmaco-language shepherded, professionals can be fully honest as they want to be. Another great interview with Dr. David Healy.


Cocktail drugged since 9

Genitals went numb

Extreme intestinal gas and pain

Extreme anxiety cant concentrate

All permanent

 

Post-SSRI Sexual Dysfunction (PSSD)

http://pssdblog.blogspot.com


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Posted 31 March 2017 - 04:16 AM

@fema4psychiatrists thanks so much, I have to say all the interviewees have been great.

I have lots more in the pipeline, keep listening and share the podcast with family, friends, even your GP or your therapist. I want as many to listen as possible.

I have a flyer for the podcast which can be emailed out, if anyone wants a copy, just email me feedback@jfmoore.co.uk and I'll gladly send you a copy.

Thanks all

James

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 06:09 AM

Another great interview with Dr David Healy.  Thanks James.

 

I wonder whether you have already contacted Luke Montague for an interview?

 

'Doctors gave me depression pills I DIDN'T need for 20 years': Coming off his antidepressants drove Viscount Hinchingbrooke to the brink - but his story is alarmingly common

cannabis: Spring 2002 - Dec. 2007; regularly smoked, stopped cold turkey; symptoms: paranoid and depressed

Paroxetine: 20 mg July 2008, 40 mg October, 20 mg spring 2009, 0 mg summer 2009

Depakote (sodium valproate): October 2008 - Spring 2009

Haloperdidol 1 week Oct. 2008, H caused seizures, went to A&E;  stopped taking it.

Citalopram few weeks in the fall of 2009 to deal with withdrawal symptoms from stopping paroxetine

Paroxetine round 2: 20 mg Feb - summer 2010 -20mg don't remeber if I went up to 40mg

Venlafaxine & sodium valproate (again): Sep 2010 - Summer 2012  

SERTRALINE: November 2012 - May 2016 , 50-100mg (few days @ 150mg in Summer '15). a complete freak out at the end of April. 

May 2016 Prescribed Lithium and Abilify HAVE NOT TAKEN

No medications May 2016 - October 2016

Hospitalised - November 13th 2016 - Prescribed 15 mg Mirtazapine/Remeron which was taken until  6th December 2016, decreased to 7.5 mg

Reducing since 24 December 2016.  Now taking approx. 1.25 mg & CBT weekly