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#37 JamesMoore

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 06:58 AM

Hi there Distraut, thanks for the feedback, Luke is on the list but thank you so much for the suggestion, it's always good to get recommendations from people here. Hope you're doing ok.



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Posted 31 March 2017 - 11:47 AM

I don't know what health this former psychiatrist is in but I have heard him criticize the language of mental health in a vimeo video too in 2014. He rejected an OBE from the queen due to the over-representation of psych killing black people. But I do not know his experiences regarding antidepressants per se. That's all I know of him. 

 

 

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Are you able to scramble voices at all? there may be some more PSSD people willing.

 

The vimeo video I saw of above ex psychiatrist criticizing 'mental health' language/system: Dr Suman Fernando   https://vimeo.com/66263870

 

I don't know but may be worth checking out.

 


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Posted 03 April 2017 - 08:18 AM

James,

 

I wanted to congratulate and thank you for all you are doing with your podcast.  I've listened to all of them and they are really very interesting and well done.  Just the fact that this is out there as a podcast is a huge thing.  How has the traffic been?  Are you getting decent traction?

 

I just listened to the Healy interview and it was very interesting and well done.  I must say I don't agree with all of what he says, especially the part about there being people that just can't get off the drugs.  Also, at some point in the interview I think I heard him say he wasn't clear on whether tapering or c/t was a better approach to getting off.  Based on years of Alto's experience, which covers a lot more people than Healy or anyone for that matter, I think it clear that tapering is a better/safer approach.

 

Keep up the good work.

 

Best,

 

Andy


Started Sertraline 50mg and Clonazapam .375mg circa 2000; Sx Spring 2012. increased to .5 Clonazapam - no improvement; Started taper of K November 2012 (benzo sites said "taper benzo first"); increased Sert to100mg no improvement; Finished K microtaper in November 2014
Started Sertraline taper from 100mg in December 2014 by reducing to 75mg; Reduced to 62.5mg on January 1, 2015 and 50mg on February 1, 2015; Held at 50mg through April 5 when I got Rx for liquid Sertraline
Reduced dosage in 10% or less drops from 50mg to 25mg -- at single tablet on 10/5

Held through February with no noticeable change

March 2016 attempted to begin taper again but miscalculated into 1 week accidental updose to 32.5mg; dropped back to 25mg for 1 week; tapered to 22.5mg the following week; hit with symptoms and tried to stabilize between 22.5mg and 25mg.  Transitioned to all liquid for accuracy. Was dealing with horrible insomnia which had me sleeping once every other day.  Went back to 25mg liquid and held until October 1, 2016.  October 1 cut 4% to 24mg.  November 1 cut 8.3% to 22mg. December 1 cut 9% to 20mg.  Not great but functional. 2/1/17 cut 5% to 19mg.  Taking Spray-on Magnesium, Magnesium supplements, D3, Omega 3, curcumin, Co-Q10, Valerian, 81mg Aspirin, L-Theanine


#40 JamesMoore

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Posted 03 April 2017 - 10:12 AM

Hi there Andy

Thanks so much for the feedback, I really appreciate you taking the time to write. It's very important to me to represent this community and to make the podcast informative both for those, like us, who have been there and more general listeners who may not know the full scale of the problem or believe the myths like the chemical imbalance nonsense. I don't necessarily agree with all of the experts either but I think the difference between us and the mainstream medical community is that we have minds that are open to different approaches while medicine says "do what we say or you'll be labelled non compliant." The next guest on the podcast is very different to the others and, of course, not everyone will agree but I want to cover a wide range of experiences and also potential help and support.

As for listeners, we are nearing a month old and we've had nearly 4000 downloads which is very good for a new podcast in a 'niche' area. What really helps is ratings and reviews on iTunes, so if anyone does feel like reviewing the podcast, I would be very grateful. Reviews help capture listeners outside the community which already has awareness of these issues and that's important too.

So, next episode is due tomorrow (Tuesday) and I'd be really interested, as always, in feedback. Glad you have been able to listen in.

Best wishes

James

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Posted 05 April 2017 - 12:01 PM

Hi james,podcast with dr healy was great thanks.

I loved the fact he admited that people like us that are going through withdrawal end up knowing more than the doctors ever could .

With out question this is the future of health care  ,I think the prescribing of drugs needs to be  taken away from GPs .

 

Thanks so much ,starting the podcast is bringing so much awareness to the suffering of these disgusting medications.


21​/06/2012 citrol10mg for stress, constant urination ,diazepam 2mg 26/07/2012 .12/07/2012 citroll 20mg,

​24/09/2013 Lexapro 20mg.didnt take them for a week during this year felt extremely strange ,had no idea down to drugs at the time .

​20/10/2014 venlafaxine xl 75mg.09/01/2015 venlafaxine xl 37.5. questioned doctor about drop in dose ,I was told no problem.

​13/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 150mg NEVER TOOK THEM getting wise?.20/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 75mg.19/08/2015 Xanax 250mcg [agitated]

​10/06/2015 venlafaxine 37.5mg.02/03/2016 five beads out for taper only lasted till 06/06/2016 extreme irritability and anxiety. 

​11/11/2016 Xanax 250mcg took them for few days ,fairly distressing time [working nearly impossible].11/11/2016 I was given a prescription for  Zyprexa 2.5mg AND DECIDED  NOT TO GET IT FROM CHEMIST.[my doctor gave them a great sales pitch ,talking about other patients that have benefited ,in witch it just annoyed me ]


#42 JamesMoore

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 01:33 AM

Hi Powerback, thanks so much for the feedback, Dr. Healy was great to talk to and he was very aware that patients are so well informed now, its just such a shame that many doctors are so convinced in their own views that they often won't listen to the very person that knows what is best for them. Thanks so much to everyone who has listened in so far, there are more great interviews coming up.

 

I also wanted to ask anyone who is listening in on iTunes, to leave a review. Reviews are vital so the podcast gets listens outside the community of those of us who have been through this, I want people to listen before they have any contact with psychiatric drugs so they can make more informed choice about treatment. If you listen via iTunes, you can make a big different by leaving a review. Thank you so much for your support with the podcast, it means a great deal.

 

Here's how:

 

1. If you use iTunes on a PC or Mac...

- Start iTunes

- In the search box (top right) type in Let's Talk Withdrawal and press enter

- Click on the pill icon

- Click on Ratings and Reviews

- Click the Write a review button

- You will then sign in to your iTunes account (if not already signed in)

-  Enter a nickname (note that iTunes is pretty fussy about nicknames, to prevent losing your review text, copy it before you press send then you can paste it in again if you need to)

- Enter a title

- Enter your review

- Click the stars to rate the podcast (5 would be fabulous!!)

- Press the Submit button 

 

2. from your iPhone or iPad...

1. Launch Apple's Podcast app
2. Tap the Search tab
3. Enter the name - Let's Talk Withdrawal
4. Tap the blue Search key at the bottom right
5. Tap the the pill icon
6. Tap the Reviews tab
7. Tap Write a Review
8. Enter your iTunes password to login
9. Tap the Stars to leave a rating (5 would be lovely!!)
10. Enter a title and your review
11. Enter a nickname (note that iTunes is pretty fussy about nicknames, to prevent losing your review text, copy it before you press send then you can paste it in again if you need to)
11. Tap Send

 

Reviews take a few hours to show up in iTunes, it won't appear immediately.

 

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Posted 14 April 2017 - 05:17 AM

just listened to christopher ,hes inspirational ,he gives me the hope and power to be off these drugs after a couple of  tapers have resulted in reinstatement for myself.

He talks so much sense,heart and soul that he is apart of  is the future of all health and well being not just for withdrawl sufferers like all of us .

What a nightmare childhood for him, what or who  only knows what he's mother suffered from to be so cruel .

Well done James great guest  .

Thanks .


21​/06/2012 citrol10mg for stress, constant urination ,diazepam 2mg 26/07/2012 .12/07/2012 citroll 20mg,

​24/09/2013 Lexapro 20mg.didnt take them for a week during this year felt extremely strange ,had no idea down to drugs at the time .

​20/10/2014 venlafaxine xl 75mg.09/01/2015 venlafaxine xl 37.5. questioned doctor about drop in dose ,I was told no problem.

​13/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 150mg NEVER TOOK THEM getting wise?.20/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 75mg.19/08/2015 Xanax 250mcg [agitated]

​10/06/2015 venlafaxine 37.5mg.02/03/2016 five beads out for taper only lasted till 06/06/2016 extreme irritability and anxiety. 

​11/11/2016 Xanax 250mcg took them for few days ,fairly distressing time [working nearly impossible].11/11/2016 I was given a prescription for  Zyprexa 2.5mg AND DECIDED  NOT TO GET IT FROM CHEMIST.[my doctor gave them a great sales pitch ,talking about other patients that have benefited ,in witch it just annoyed me ]


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Posted 14 April 2017 - 07:50 AM

Thanks so much for the feedback powerback, Christopher was excellent wasn't he, to have had those experiences and that trauma and suffering, no one would have blamed him for turning his back on everything but to go on and support others, what a story. Like you, I have had failed attempts at coming off, but keep trying, the time will come when the conditions are right and you will succeed, I have very confidence that you will get there. 

 

Got another cracking interview coming up on Monday, can't wait to share it. Really glad you are liking the podcast so far.



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Posted 14 April 2017 - 09:26 AM

Thanks so much for the feedback powerback, Christopher was excellent wasn't he, to have had those experiences and that trauma and suffering, no one would have blamed him for turning his back on everything but to go on and support others, what a story. Like you, I have had failed attempts at coming off, but keep trying, the time will come when the conditions are right and you will succeed, I have very confidence that you will get there. 

 

Got another cracking interview coming up on Monday, can't wait to share it. Really glad you are liking the podcast so far.

Thanks for your kind words james ,its a learning process about understanding ones body in this process.i have learned to watch for symptoms and reinstate very quickly ,being stoic should only go so far .

Terry lynch had emailed me about he's podcast with u  ,I wrote that I listened and told him about this great site that we are belong to.

We will all get the peace we deserve .


21​/06/2012 citrol10mg for stress, constant urination ,diazepam 2mg 26/07/2012 .12/07/2012 citroll 20mg,

​24/09/2013 Lexapro 20mg.didnt take them for a week during this year felt extremely strange ,had no idea down to drugs at the time .

​20/10/2014 venlafaxine xl 75mg.09/01/2015 venlafaxine xl 37.5. questioned doctor about drop in dose ,I was told no problem.

​13/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 150mg NEVER TOOK THEM getting wise?.20/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 75mg.19/08/2015 Xanax 250mcg [agitated]

​10/06/2015 venlafaxine 37.5mg.02/03/2016 five beads out for taper only lasted till 06/06/2016 extreme irritability and anxiety. 

​11/11/2016 Xanax 250mcg took them for few days ,fairly distressing time [working nearly impossible].11/11/2016 I was given a prescription for  Zyprexa 2.5mg AND DECIDED  NOT TO GET IT FROM CHEMIST.[my doctor gave them a great sales pitch ,talking about other patients that have benefited ,in witch it just annoyed me ]


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Posted 16 April 2017 - 05:25 AM

Hi James,
Your podcast is excellent and much needed ! It’s obvious how much work you have put into it, I just wanted to thank you for everything that you are doing.
Very much looking forward to listening to all of the upcoming episodes :).
2001 (Age 13) - Prozac 10mg for situational anxiety. Taken over 6 months, never helped with anxiety and started feeling depressed. Tapered off over 2 weeks on advice from doctor. Started to feel much better after a few months of being off.
April 2014- Sertraline 25mg. Had a severe adverse reaction within 12 hours. Only took 1 dose.
October 2014- Mirtazapine 15mg
February 2015- Upped Mirtazapine to 30mg because I was feeling much worse than before I started taking it.
August 2015- Dropped Mirtazapine back to 15mg because 30mg was causing even more severe side effects.
October 2015- Mirtazapine 7.5mg. Desperate to get off and feeling awful.
December 2015- Drug free. 5 days after last Mirtazapine tablet hit by severe WD symptoms.
January 2016. Hospitalised because of WD symptoms. Given 2mg of Diazepam.
January 2016 - December 2016. 2mg Diazepam taken as needed. Didn't really help much and never took more than 5 tablets in a month.
Still suffering from numerous symptoms.

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Posted 16 April 2017 - 06:01 AM

Hi James

 

Just listened to your latest interview with Kevin Miller.  Very interesting!

 

I will be looking at his films very shortly I hope.

 

Thank you so much for doing so much to bring this abomination under scrutiny.


cannabis: Spring 2002 - Dec. 2007; regularly smoked, stopped cold turkey; symptoms: paranoid and depressed

Paroxetine: 20 mg July 2008, 40 mg October, 20 mg spring 2009, 0 mg summer 2009

Depakote (sodium valproate): October 2008 - Spring 2009

Haloperdidol 1 week Oct. 2008, H caused seizures, went to A&E;  stopped taking it.

Citalopram few weeks in the fall of 2009 to deal with withdrawal symptoms from stopping paroxetine

Paroxetine round 2: 20 mg Feb - summer 2010 -20mg don't remeber if I went up to 40mg

Venlafaxine & sodium valproate (again): Sep 2010 - Summer 2012  

SERTRALINE: November 2012 - May 2016 , 50-100mg (few days @ 150mg in Summer '15). a complete freak out at the end of April. 

May 2016 Prescribed Lithium and Abilify HAVE NOT TAKEN

No medications May 2016 - October 2016

Hospitalised - November 13th 2016 - Prescribed 15 mg Mirtazapine/Remeron which was taken until  6th December 2016, decreased to 7.5 mg

Reducing since 24 December 2016.  Now taking approx. 1.25 mg & CBT weekly


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Posted 16 April 2017 - 06:03 AM

Hi Lyssa, that's such lovely feedback, thank you so much. Hearing that people in this community are finding the podcast interesting makes all the effort worthwhile. I'm determined to tell the stories that mainstream medicine doesn't want to hear and I hope that we can get many more listening whether they have had any contact with psychiatric medications or not. Thank you so much for taking the time to listen in. There's a new episode due on Tuesday which will be a users perspective and I have many more in the pipeline.

 

I noticed from your signature that you've struggled with Mirtazapine, me too, that's the one I am currently stuck on, it's a complete and utter sod isn't it. I hope now that you are off (well done by the way) you continue to improve.

 

Best wishes

 

James



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Posted 16 April 2017 - 06:06 AM

Hi Distraut

 

Thanks so much, Kevin was great to speak to and his films are really powerful in exposing all the greed and money that are behind the suffering of so many people. It's difficult not to get very angry about it when watching but the films are great to show people who don't know much about these issues because it really helps them understand. 

 

Thanks so much for listening so far, more interviews in the pipeline and another due on Tuesday, from a users perspective the time.

 

I hope you are doing ok.

 

With best wishes

 

James



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Posted 16 April 2017 - 06:50 AM

Hi James

 

Just to let you know, my son, Akrontes (on whose behalf I am posting) has now reduced his dose of Mirtazapine to 1.25 mg.

 

But he is still suffering from SEVERE OCD symptoms which are distressing him immensely still.  This is his main (perhaps only) really distressing symptom. From perusing this site today, I think this is related to his previous usage first of Paxil then four years of Sertraline, which feature very high on the list.  Fortunately Mirtazapine comes rather low down in comparison:

 


cannabis: Spring 2002 - Dec. 2007; regularly smoked, stopped cold turkey; symptoms: paranoid and depressed

Paroxetine: 20 mg July 2008, 40 mg October, 20 mg spring 2009, 0 mg summer 2009

Depakote (sodium valproate): October 2008 - Spring 2009

Haloperdidol 1 week Oct. 2008, H caused seizures, went to A&E;  stopped taking it.

Citalopram few weeks in the fall of 2009 to deal with withdrawal symptoms from stopping paroxetine

Paroxetine round 2: 20 mg Feb - summer 2010 -20mg don't remeber if I went up to 40mg

Venlafaxine & sodium valproate (again): Sep 2010 - Summer 2012  

SERTRALINE: November 2012 - May 2016 , 50-100mg (few days @ 150mg in Summer '15). a complete freak out at the end of April. 

May 2016 Prescribed Lithium and Abilify HAVE NOT TAKEN

No medications May 2016 - October 2016

Hospitalised - November 13th 2016 - Prescribed 15 mg Mirtazapine/Remeron which was taken until  6th December 2016, decreased to 7.5 mg

Reducing since 24 December 2016.  Now taking approx. 1.25 mg & CBT weekly


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Posted 16 April 2017 - 09:12 AM

Hi Distraut, I'm so sorry to hear things are so difficult. It must be very difficult for you all to know what is an issue from prior medication and what may be related to the current withdrawal. All I know from my own experience is that change in medications makes me very anxious but that it does ease over time. Unfortunately no one can predict with any accuracy how long this settling down will take. My thoughts are with you.

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Posted 16 April 2017 - 03:32 PM

Hi Lyssa, that's such lovely feedback, thank you so much. Hearing that people in this community are finding the podcast interesting makes all the effort worthwhile. I'm determined to tell the stories that mainstream medicine doesn't want to hear and I hope that we can get many more listening whether they have had any contact with psychiatric medications or not. Thank you so much for taking the time to listen in. There's a new episode due on Tuesday which will be a users perspective and I have many more in the pipeline.
 
I noticed from your signature that you've struggled with Mirtazapine, me too, that's the one I am currently stuck on, it's a complete and utter sod isn't it. I hope now that you are off (well done by the way) you continue to improve.
 
Best wishes
 
James


Thank you so much. Your determination to tell these stories is going to help so many people. I'm so sorry to hear that you have been struggling with Mirtazapine too (the description you use is sadly very true). I wish you all the best.
Thanks again
Lyssa
2001 (Age 13) - Prozac 10mg for situational anxiety. Taken over 6 months, never helped with anxiety and started feeling depressed. Tapered off over 2 weeks on advice from doctor. Started to feel much better after a few months of being off.
April 2014- Sertraline 25mg. Had a severe adverse reaction within 12 hours. Only took 1 dose.
October 2014- Mirtazapine 15mg
February 2015- Upped Mirtazapine to 30mg because I was feeling much worse than before I started taking it.
August 2015- Dropped Mirtazapine back to 15mg because 30mg was causing even more severe side effects.
October 2015- Mirtazapine 7.5mg. Desperate to get off and feeling awful.
December 2015- Drug free. 5 days after last Mirtazapine tablet hit by severe WD symptoms.
January 2016. Hospitalised because of WD symptoms. Given 2mg of Diazepam.
January 2016 - December 2016. 2mg Diazepam taken as needed. Didn't really help much and never took more than 5 tablets in a month.
Still suffering from numerous symptoms.

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Posted 17 April 2017 - 12:44 AM

thanks James for another great guest in Kevin.

 

I really don't like being pessimistic but it dawned on me listening to him that I'm afraid these drugs will always be around ,there's just too much rot after getting  into  power ,its extremely depressing. with the vacuous celebrity culture and constant Facebook making everyone envious of others lives .

Todays society has made a need and want for a way out .There's no morality to the prescribing of these drugs its simply business .If I spend a minute over the 15 minutes in my doctors he's looking at the clock  and on to the next billing client [not patient].

smoking bad for us [millions do it  ],alcohol bad for us[ millions do it ].junk food bad for us [millions do it ] people and society need a serious look at its culture ,these drugs can be  added to the list of we know there bad but they mite give relief  ,ile correct that my apologies,[none of us knew what was around the corner with these drugs]

 

  but I will never back down on these disgusting drugs ,the torture that my mind has been brought to trying to get off them is astonishing and once I finally gave up listening and believing the nonsense from doctors ,my recovery from psychiatry and the medical model of the western world could begin .

 

The interesting thing is ,if a toy manufacturer recalls a faulty toy everybody will listen and pay attention [rightly so] but countless people lives destroyed and gone over these drugs and no government politician will touch it .this is very interesting to be about herd mentality .

Ok rant over ;) .

change has to start somewhere and well done to u James for being a big part of it .  






















    


21​/06/2012 citrol10mg for stress, constant urination ,diazepam 2mg 26/07/2012 .12/07/2012 citroll 20mg,

​24/09/2013 Lexapro 20mg.didnt take them for a week during this year felt extremely strange ,had no idea down to drugs at the time .

​20/10/2014 venlafaxine xl 75mg.09/01/2015 venlafaxine xl 37.5. questioned doctor about drop in dose ,I was told no problem.

​13/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 150mg NEVER TOOK THEM getting wise?.20/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 75mg.19/08/2015 Xanax 250mcg [agitated]

​10/06/2015 venlafaxine 37.5mg.02/03/2016 five beads out for taper only lasted till 06/06/2016 extreme irritability and anxiety. 

​11/11/2016 Xanax 250mcg took them for few days ,fairly distressing time [working nearly impossible].11/11/2016 I was given a prescription for  Zyprexa 2.5mg AND DECIDED  NOT TO GET IT FROM CHEMIST.[my doctor gave them a great sales pitch ,talking about other patients that have benefited ,in witch it just annoyed me ]


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Posted 17 April 2017 - 10:21 PM

James just thought of two more amazing people you could interview....

Yolanda Lucire in Australia and a person in America who goes by the name of Altostrata.

And actually i suggest a third amazing person why not interview Brassmonkey when he soon goes drug free after what must be nearly 6 yrs of tapering he has masterminded a great taper plan that i have no doubt is saving lives.

All these three people are pretty busy though so it may be difficult catching them. Worth a try though. No pressure.

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2000 amitryptaline, nortriptaline venlafaxine clonazepam for  arm pain from keyboard use, told I had a chemical imbalance it would fix my arm was just a matter of finding the right med for me not informed of the nature of these drugs assured safe and not addictive, CT off Effexor after being told to double the dose on reporting adverse effects...later ..uncharacteristic psych panic tearful presented to doctor to get answers. Given paroxetine no questions asked 'safe and not addictive' next please.2001-2010 paroxetine (paxil) 2 failed attempts to quit, a learned helplessness set in. Feb 10 - Sept 10,  8 month clueless taper, hell. Doc said I had underlying depression .. I said that's not right' then found online support group and the truth!...overcome with inconceivable humiliation and outrage. 28 Sept 10 drug free ...  daily psych and emotional torture beginning in the waking hours of the morning receding somewhat in the evening only to start up again the next day. 28 Sept 12 (24 months) Stabilizing  (What an indescribable unimaginable non-functional nightmare). sleep issues start up at 3 yrs  waking daily at 2am -4.30am), April 2016 return to sport for the first time since drug free, Sept 16 return to work on casual basis.  28 Sept 16 (6yrs drug free), still cant sleep with any regularity, pssd continues no sign of improvement, still feel Rip van Winkle-ish, brain fog still improving, psoriasis concerns.

 

"It is unsafe for people who suffer from something that could be treated with an ssri to consult a psychiatrist." Gotzshe 2015. [ I think Gotzsche could have easily meant to say 'to consult anyone with prescribing privileges']. "Going to a psychiatrist is one of the most dangerous actions a person can take." Breggin

 

“Paroxetine is not safe, it is not effective and it meets every known definition of addictive.” McLaren, N, (2016) 'Psychiatry as bullsh*t’ p55..."Psychiatry is stuffed full of 'deep nonsense' better known as bullsh*t." McLaren 2016

 

"Within the first week of when you go on an antidepressant you may have a sexual dysfunction, it can go on forever, often only appearing when you go off the drug ...its extraordinarily common" Healy 2015

 

See  my intro post #451 for the xanax back story and for a CV -GSKs.  Come on guys get taperwise see a TaperMe Schedule

 For a staggeringly shocking 'prozac back story' see the truth post #523

 

"If I were an enemy combatant and the NZ army did this to me someone would be dragged to the Hague and jailed!"  nz11


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Posted 19 April 2017 - 03:03 AM

Good for Nora on confronting her doctor ,these people literally think they know better because they went to college and studied the nonsense of the western medical model .I asked my own doctor certain questions and he didn't like it at all and this man is even more liberal than most .when I asked for my medical records ,the first thing he did was go on the defence ,I believe there ethos is damage control and protect themselves from prosecution .

 

This is surely not the reason they got into medicine ,it used to be  altruistic .What I know now about the medical profession has disgusted me .I wouldn't even recommend anyone become one.

If a profession is so guarded and not open to criticism that should make u want to run a mile.

Countless  rogue trader programmes on TV but we see little of it to do with these professions.  This has to change drastically.

Its more of a class thing and power, we have to take this back away from them.

 

I am extremely angry this has happened to me ,because I trusted a doctor and listened to there rhetoric. [in touch with doctors since childhood].I'm slowly forgiving myself ,because I've always been in there grasp

 

But I have to stress that never under any circumstances do I think anyone should ever loose focus ,at the end of the day these people are human beings with feelings and should be treated with respect on a human level. 

 

I mostly feel sorry for a lot of them ,that they are so clueless .and as the great peter breggin says ,its just too painful for most of them to confront the fact they personally are at fault for the suffering of others [ iatrogenic illness  ].

 

Is this what happens for ever ,we go around and try to  save others from going into a doctors office and have them not suffer like us ,how did it come to this .

I seen a study somewhere that said ,the western world has a worse and slower rate of recovery from mental illness than less developed countries.

Why:because big pharma cant make money in them countries 

There's way too much knowledge out there now to ignore and u can be guaranteed the powers that be are watching this change and putting the proper road blocks up for protection ,IE blame.

 

I must again say, I never promote anger or aggression to anyone ,everyone has to be treated with care and respect ,we all deserve peace and respect on this planet.

 

Thanks James for another great guest  .

 

Oh ye nearly forgot ,for anyone fed up and depressed about the practises that come from there out of date doctor .u got to check out DR peter breggin on YouTube .

 

I often see the doctor that originally put me on meds when out for my walk.my plan is to give him a copy of Robert Whitakers .an anatomy of an epidemic :D    


21​/06/2012 citrol10mg for stress, constant urination ,diazepam 2mg 26/07/2012 .12/07/2012 citroll 20mg,

​24/09/2013 Lexapro 20mg.didnt take them for a week during this year felt extremely strange ,had no idea down to drugs at the time .

​20/10/2014 venlafaxine xl 75mg.09/01/2015 venlafaxine xl 37.5. questioned doctor about drop in dose ,I was told no problem.

​13/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 150mg NEVER TOOK THEM getting wise?.20/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 75mg.19/08/2015 Xanax 250mcg [agitated]

​10/06/2015 venlafaxine 37.5mg.02/03/2016 five beads out for taper only lasted till 06/06/2016 extreme irritability and anxiety. 

​11/11/2016 Xanax 250mcg took them for few days ,fairly distressing time [working nearly impossible].11/11/2016 I was given a prescription for  Zyprexa 2.5mg AND DECIDED  NOT TO GET IT FROM CHEMIST.[my doctor gave them a great sales pitch ,talking about other patients that have benefited ,in witch it just annoyed me ]


#56 Shep

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Posted 26 April 2017 - 12:47 PM

James,

 

I've had time to listen to a number of your podcasts and have enjoyed them very much. Thank you for all you are doing.

 

Your collection is a wonderful mix of lived experience from survivors, as well as interviews with psychiatrists and professors.  This gives voice to those harmed and then backing it up with professionals who are very credible whistle-blowers speaking out against an extremely corrupt industry. The full story is being told. 

 

I also enjoy re-playing the lived experience podcasts sometimes just for "company", as withdrawal is a very isolating journey and hearing these voices of resilience really helps. 

 

Again, many thanks for your work. It's very much appreciated. 


Locked up and forced onto drugs as a teenager - misdiagnosed manic depressive.
Developed dependency and stayed on cocktails of drugs for nearly 30 years.

My Intro: Shep's Journey

Last drug cocktail: Seroquel, Halcion, Klonopin, Sonata, Vibrydd, and Dexetrine

After 30 years of polydrug use, completely med free May 22, 2015.

Remaining symptoms: dp/dr with memory problems and insomnia

 

I am not a medical professional, and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. 

 

 


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Posted 26 April 2017 - 01:51 PM

Hi all, I'm so very grateful for your feedback on the podcast, hearing that people get something from listening in really makes my day. Part of the reason that I wanted to do the podcast is because I felt lonely and isolated and that no one understood how withdrawal completely overtakes your life. To know that others find it comforting too is amazing.

@powerback - thank you, Kevin was great to talk with and his films are amazing too. I completely understand the need to rant sometimes, these drugs are given out so readily and so much money is made off the back of suffering, it's easy to get very upset and angry about it. If this website and its community and the podcast influence people to think twice before starting psychiatric drugs, it's been well worth the effort in my opinion. Nora was great too, to be, as she described 'a basket case' and still be able to go and challenge her doctor is amazing and shows the strength of people who struggle with these drugs. Thank you for listening in.

@nz11 - thank you so much for the suggestions, will definitely look into these they sound like great guests to chat with. I'm really keen to get as wide a range of views about this as I can. I think Robert Whitaker's book should be on the standard reading list for anyone going into medicine.

@ Shep - this is such lovely feedback, thank you so much for taking the time to write. I also find comfort in hearing the real stories of others who have 'been there' and it reminds me that doctors know so little about this and there's no beating lived experience. I really enjoy making the podcast, but I do get very anxious interviewing professors and doctors. Fortunately for me they have all been so nice to me but I do struggle sometimes. I'm pushing ahead though and there are lots more interviews in the pipeline both of real experiences and experts too. I really do hope you continue to listen in. Thank you so much for your support and your lovely feedback too.

My thanks to anyone listening in for taking the time to support the podcast and my thoughts, hopes and prayers are with anyone withdrawing from thier medications.

Best wishes

James

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Posted 26 April 2017 - 02:08 PM

Hi all, I'm so very grateful for your feedback on the podcast, hearing that people get something from listening in really makes my day. Part of the reason that I wanted to do the podcast is because I felt lonely and isolated and that no one understood how withdrawal completely overtakes your life. To know that others find it comforting too is amazing.

@powerback - thank you, Kevin was great to talk with and his films are amazing too. I completely understand the need to rant sometimes, these drugs are given out so readily and so much money is made off the back of suffering, it's easy to get very upset and angry about it. If this website and its community and the podcast influence people to think twice before starting psychiatric drugs, it's been well worth the effort in my opinion. Nora was great too, to be, as she described 'a basket case' and still be able to go and challenge her doctor is amazing and shows the strength of people who struggle with these drugs. Thank you for listening in.

@nz11 - thank you so much for the suggestions, will definitely look into these they sound like great guests to chat with. I'm really keen to get as wide a range of views about this as I can. I think Robert Whitaker's book should be on the standard reading list for anyone going into medicine.

@ Shep - this is such lovely feedback, thank you so much for taking the time to write. I also find comfort in hearing the real stories of others who have 'been there' and it reminds me that doctors know so little about this and there's no beating lived experience. I really enjoy making the podcast, but I do get very anxious interviewing professors and doctors. Fortunately for me they have all been so nice to me but I do struggle sometimes. I'm pushing ahead though and there are lots more interviews in the pipeline both of real experiences and experts too. I really do hope you continue to listen in. Thank you so much for your support and your lovely feedback too.

My thanks to anyone listening in for taking the time to support the podcast and my thoughts, hopes and prayers are with anyone withdrawing from thier medications.

Best wishes

James

 

hi james ,I must say I do love my rants and my soap box haha :D ,but ile never loose focus that's the main thing .

terry lynch sent me an email recently and at the end with other helpful information was your withdrawal podcast ,so its great well done.

respect to you .  


21​/06/2012 citrol10mg for stress, constant urination ,diazepam 2mg 26/07/2012 .12/07/2012 citroll 20mg,

​24/09/2013 Lexapro 20mg.didnt take them for a week during this year felt extremely strange ,had no idea down to drugs at the time .

​20/10/2014 venlafaxine xl 75mg.09/01/2015 venlafaxine xl 37.5. questioned doctor about drop in dose ,I was told no problem.

​13/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 150mg NEVER TOOK THEM getting wise?.20/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 75mg.19/08/2015 Xanax 250mcg [agitated]

​10/06/2015 venlafaxine 37.5mg.02/03/2016 five beads out for taper only lasted till 06/06/2016 extreme irritability and anxiety. 

​11/11/2016 Xanax 250mcg took them for few days ,fairly distressing time [working nearly impossible].11/11/2016 I was given a prescription for  Zyprexa 2.5mg AND DECIDED  NOT TO GET IT FROM CHEMIST.[my doctor gave them a great sales pitch ,talking about other patients that have benefited ,in witch it just annoyed me ]


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Posted 27 April 2017 - 03:43 AM

@ Shep - this is such lovely feedback, thank you so much for taking the time to write. I also find comfort in hearing the real stories of others who have 'been there' and it reminds me that doctors know so little about this and there's no beating lived experience. I really enjoy making the podcast, but I do get very anxious interviewing professors and doctors. Fortunately for me they have all been so nice to me but I do struggle sometimes. I'm pushing ahead though and there are lots more interviews in the pipeline both of real experiences and experts too. I really do hope you continue to listen in. Thank you so much for your support and your lovely feedback too.

 

 

 

Hi, James.

 

You come across so professionally, I couldn't tell you were struggling. 

 

Since you're doing so much for us, perhaps we can help you out with some non-drug coping techniques that can help with your pre-interview anxiety.  Breathing techniques can be very helpful. You may find this thread useful: 

 

Breathing for Mood and Well Being (Yoga and other Techniques)

 

My favorite is the 4-7-8 Breathing Technique which I wrote about in my post here

 

These types of mindful breathing techniques are so powerful, they even help with my rebound psychotic symptoms (although I prefer the term "extreme states"). 

 

Whenever you get anxious, just come back to your breath. It's with you wherever you go, and as Dr. Jon Kabat-Zinn says, "As long as you're breathing, there's more right with you than wrong." 

 

Sometimes it's good to "welcome" those anxious states, as they are opportunities to practice. 

 

Yes, I will definitely continue to listen to your podcasts, as they are wonderful and helpful additions to the cause of helping people learn about these very dangerous drugs. 


Locked up and forced onto drugs as a teenager - misdiagnosed manic depressive.
Developed dependency and stayed on cocktails of drugs for nearly 30 years.

My Intro: Shep's Journey

Last drug cocktail: Seroquel, Halcion, Klonopin, Sonata, Vibrydd, and Dexetrine

After 30 years of polydrug use, completely med free May 22, 2015.

Remaining symptoms: dp/dr with memory problems and insomnia

 

I am not a medical professional, and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. 

 

 


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Posted 27 April 2017 - 04:17 AM

James,

 

Let me add on to the plaudits you are receiving.  I will tell you that I find myself looking forward each week to the next podcast and when you add additional ones in "off-cycle" I feel like I'm getting a little bonus.

 

One of my routines at work is to get up from my desk in the mid-morning and take a walk for about 15 minutes.  It's a good way to get a little sunshine and exercise and break the routing of sitting at the computer.  It is my practice to listen to a podcast when I take that walk and you are providing me with good material for my walks so I thank you for that.

 

Many people are suffering and angry, but you are channeling that into something positive and that is to be greatly applauded.

 

Best,

 

Andy 


Started Sertraline 50mg and Clonazapam .375mg circa 2000; Sx Spring 2012. increased to .5 Clonazapam - no improvement; Started taper of K November 2012 (benzo sites said "taper benzo first"); increased Sert to100mg no improvement; Finished K microtaper in November 2014
Started Sertraline taper from 100mg in December 2014 by reducing to 75mg; Reduced to 62.5mg on January 1, 2015 and 50mg on February 1, 2015; Held at 50mg through April 5 when I got Rx for liquid Sertraline
Reduced dosage in 10% or less drops from 50mg to 25mg -- at single tablet on 10/5

Held through February with no noticeable change

March 2016 attempted to begin taper again but miscalculated into 1 week accidental updose to 32.5mg; dropped back to 25mg for 1 week; tapered to 22.5mg the following week; hit with symptoms and tried to stabilize between 22.5mg and 25mg.  Transitioned to all liquid for accuracy. Was dealing with horrible insomnia which had me sleeping once every other day.  Went back to 25mg liquid and held until October 1, 2016.  October 1 cut 4% to 24mg.  November 1 cut 8.3% to 22mg. December 1 cut 9% to 20mg.  Not great but functional. 2/1/17 cut 5% to 19mg.  Taking Spray-on Magnesium, Magnesium supplements, D3, Omega 3, curcumin, Co-Q10, Valerian, 81mg Aspirin, L-Theanine