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#1 Daisies24

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 12:30 PM

Hi everyone. I was just wondering if I could ask, for those who are hypersensitive to medications, herbs, and supplements now, what exactly are your symptoms, and secondly, which drug did you withdraw from?

 

It seems like I am reading a higher correlation of hypersensitivity to supplements, etc. for people who were on Prozac, though I know it can be a problem for any type of antidepressant. I also haven’t seen many people who seem to share my specific symptoms of hypersensitivity such as extreme itching, hives, rashes, head and ear pain and pressure, chest tightness, lung pain, puffy face, etc. I am just wondering if there is anyone else out there with similar symptoms?

 

Thanks for any responses; any information is greatly appreciated!


Low dose Lexapro (5mg) for 1 year from roughly 2007-2008

Low dose Prozac (between 5mg and 10mg) for about 9 months from October 2013-July 2014

Tried another low dose of Prozac (5mg) from May 2016-July 2016 with constant horrible anxiety and insomnia

"Kindling" (I think) happened in early October 2016 after taking a high dose niacin; I woke up the next morning very sick and never fully recovered, developed strong allergies and intolerances to all supplements, medications, vitamins, herbs, chemicals, etc. after that

Late April/early May 2017--Severe adverse reaction to CES device with no signs of improvement after stopping


#2 LexAnger

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 10:15 PM

I'm sorry you are having all the terrible symptoms!
I have every single one you listed plus tons others. Ever since my system is sensitized by dose changes of Lexapro multiple time, I can't take anything except for fish oil.

When did those symptoms start for you?
<p>2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg, first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, slight improvement with pain2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR2016 Feb., started fast taper for the drug toxicity caused by the one dose of 4.2mg, dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, sliding Down to 0.13mg by 2/13, then 0.07mg since 2/18, 0.06mg 2/20-3/17, 0.13mg 3/18

#3 Bluebird2009

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Posted 21 March 2017 - 01:47 AM

Does anyone know if these reactions settle with time? I was on Prozac for a long time and have been really unwell with the sensitivity problem.
Prozac for 18years with break in 1999 for pregnancy. Started to feel unwell with numerous problems 2015 and think I was in a tolerance to drug. Started to come off May 2016 and by June 2016 wasn't able to tolerate any medications at all. Was on Lansoprazole as and when need from 2001 but haven't had to take and wldnt have been able to take since June 2016

GP gave sertraline 25mg 6/04/17 loss of appetite, gut pain and then following morning whole body shaking and vomiting. Stopped tablet.

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Posted 21 March 2017 - 08:45 AM

I am highly sensitive but am getting better. I don't try many things because of reactions in the past. Any mew supplement needs to be tried at a very very low dose to test for reactions. I started curcumin 2 weeks ago and it has made a big difference, I feel much better and niot as sluggish and 'foggy', so hopefully the sensitivities are improving. Itching, hives, chest tightness  and puffy face are not good, maybe you should have some allergy tests done to test for true allergy rather than intolerance. 

 

I think it is common when psychiatric drugs are taken, and haven't noticed that prozac leads to more people having sensitivities. I think when you tell people that you can't take drugs or supplements becaiuse of prozac, there will be others who say they are also the same after taking prozac. It is the same for all the other drugs, people relate to each others experiences. 


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#5 Daisies24

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Posted 21 March 2017 - 09:16 AM

Thanks for the responses. LexAnger, I am sorry that these symptoms are happening to you, too!

My symptoms started roughly 3 months or so after stopping Prozac. Before that, I took several supplements with absolutely no problems. When did this begin for you?

Bluebird, I am so sorry about the early morning awakening. I know that is an awful feeling. The only thing I wonder for you is if you could find a totally pure brand of magnesium with no fillers
(maybe it would not irritate your system that way), and when you wake up with that anxiety, take the magnesium and see if you begin to calm down enough to go back to sleep?

MammaP, that is great that you are getting better, even though you are still highly sensitive. The fact that you can see your body healing to at least some degree, even if small, has to be encouraging! Thanks for pointing out that this really does happen with more drugs than just Prozac--my reading about this has probably been more selective than I had realized, which is why I thought I noticed a correlation. I do think my symptoms sound like an allergic reaction, also, which I never had before the Prozac, so that is why I am especially curious if others experience these kinds of symptoms.

Low dose Lexapro (5mg) for 1 year from roughly 2007-2008

Low dose Prozac (between 5mg and 10mg) for about 9 months from October 2013-July 2014

Tried another low dose of Prozac (5mg) from May 2016-July 2016 with constant horrible anxiety and insomnia

"Kindling" (I think) happened in early October 2016 after taking a high dose niacin; I woke up the next morning very sick and never fully recovered, developed strong allergies and intolerances to all supplements, medications, vitamins, herbs, chemicals, etc. after that

Late April/early May 2017--Severe adverse reaction to CES device with no signs of improvement after stopping


#6 Bluebird2009

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Posted 21 March 2017 - 01:28 PM

Daisies24 thankyou, where wld I buy this pure magnesium? Also I get a bit of throat swelling with my sensitivity but not enough to cause a problem, but the rapid heart, tight chest, weakness and a hole hostvof other things r horrific. You're sounds like an allergy mind you. Mammap I'm glad your sensitivity is settling, mine is whatvis keeping me so ill!
Prozac for 18years with break in 1999 for pregnancy. Started to feel unwell with numerous problems 2015 and think I was in a tolerance to drug. Started to come off May 2016 and by June 2016 wasn't able to tolerate any medications at all. Was on Lansoprazole as and when need from 2001 but haven't had to take and wldnt have been able to take since June 2016

GP gave sertraline 25mg 6/04/17 loss of appetite, gut pain and then following morning whole body shaking and vomiting. Stopped tablet.

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Posted 21 March 2017 - 02:06 PM

Because magnesium is highly reactive in the presence of oxygen, you can't buy magnesium on its own as a supplement.

 

Commercially available supplements will provide a magnesium salt: magnesium citrate, magnesium glycinate, magnesium malate, magnesium oxide, magnesium HVP chelate, etc. You'll have to look at the ingredients list to see what else the manufacturer includes.

 

Pure Encapsulations, a brand suggested to me by a naturopath, has a magnesium glycinate product with only one additive, a form of vitamin C called ascorbyl palmitate.


This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.
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Cymbalta (brand name), 60 mg 2012 - 2015; 20 mg to 7 mg in 2016, exact doses and dates in this post;
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Current dose: 2.6 mg (24) 2017-May-17
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Posted 22 March 2017 - 01:31 AM

Hi Daisies,

 

Even though I have been off of psych meds since 2010, I am very sensitive to meds and supplements.  Now before you get worried, I am also having sleep issues thanks to being on psych meds long term so that could be contributing to the problem.

 

I don't have your symptoms but I seem to get very agitated with an increased heart rate.  In fact, one time, I falsely thought I perhaps needed to go back on BP meds when actually, I was reacting to a supplement.

 

Sorry you are experiencing the troubles that you are and I hope things improve.


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#9 Bluebird2009

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 04:10 AM

I have the fast heart rate after taking anything it is horrible.


Edited by ChessieCat, 22 March 2017 - 12:36 PM.
Corrected iris to it is

Prozac for 18years with break in 1999 for pregnancy. Started to feel unwell with numerous problems 2015 and think I was in a tolerance to drug. Started to come off May 2016 and by June 2016 wasn't able to tolerate any medications at all. Was on Lansoprazole as and when need from 2001 but haven't had to take and wldnt have been able to take since June 2016

GP gave sertraline 25mg 6/04/17 loss of appetite, gut pain and then following morning whole body shaking and vomiting. Stopped tablet.

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 07:23 AM

Scallywag, thanks for the clarification about the magnesium. I never knew that that was the reason you cannot buy magnesium alone as a supplement, but have wondered about that. Bluebird, I do have the Pure Encapsulations magnesium glycinate that Scallywag recommended, and I think there’s a good chance it might help you a little. For me, I seem to be allergic to the cellulose in the capsule encasing, but not sensitive to the ingredients in that particular magnesium capsule. So for instance, I can take Pure Encapsulations magnesium glycinate and feel significantly calmer—no racing heart or anything like that. But, I just happen to also get hives, itching, etc., which I am finding I get with other cellulose capsules as well. If hives and itching aren’t a problem for you, I think there’s a good likelihood that you may tolerate this brand really well. Maybe it’s worth a try for those early morning awakenings when you have anxiety?

 

Compsports, thank you so much for the reply. I am really sorry about the sleep problem. I have this too, and it is actually my worst problem. I really, really hope that you (and all of us dealing with this) will improve—it is truly awful.


Low dose Lexapro (5mg) for 1 year from roughly 2007-2008

Low dose Prozac (between 5mg and 10mg) for about 9 months from October 2013-July 2014

Tried another low dose of Prozac (5mg) from May 2016-July 2016 with constant horrible anxiety and insomnia

"Kindling" (I think) happened in early October 2016 after taking a high dose niacin; I woke up the next morning very sick and never fully recovered, developed strong allergies and intolerances to all supplements, medications, vitamins, herbs, chemicals, etc. after that

Late April/early May 2017--Severe adverse reaction to CES device with no signs of improvement after stopping


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Posted 23 March 2017 - 10:38 AM

Daisies, you can test whether your reaction is to the cellulose capsule by taking the powder only:

  1. Open the capsule.
  2. Dump the contents in to water or applesauce.
  3. Stir.
  4. Consume.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.
1997-1999 Effexor; 2002-2005 Effexor XR 37.5 mg linear taper, dropping same #beads/week with bad results
Cymbalta (brand name), 60 mg 2012 - 2015; 20 mg to 7 mg in 2016, exact doses and dates in this post;
2017: 6.3 (58 beads) Feb. 1; 5.6 mg (52) Feb. 22; 5.4 mg (50) Mar. 15; 5.1 mg (47) Mar. 25; 4.9 mg (45) Apr. 5; 4.5 mg (42) Apr. 14; 3.5 mg (32) Apr. 26;
Current dose: 2.6 mg (24) 2017-May-17
+ Supplements: fish oil (1500 mg EPA/500 mg DHA), Vitamins: D3, K2, C; Minerals: Mg, Se, Cr, I, V
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Posted 23 March 2017 - 11:50 PM

Daisies24 thankyou for your reply. I went to my health shop and got some powder magnesium and tried it. I had fast heartbeat and shaking legs after the magnesium and on the 3rd day I took awful bladder pain and pain in my kidney with a lot of running to the toilet. My system is just in an awful hypersensitive state at the moment and the slightest thing is causing issues. I really hoped I cld take the magnesium but it was causing too many symptoms. I'm really struggling at the moment and if my nervous system wld just settle I feel I wld be on my way to recovery. My depression has lifted again thank gdness.
Prozac for 18years with break in 1999 for pregnancy. Started to feel unwell with numerous problems 2015 and think I was in a tolerance to drug. Started to come off May 2016 and by June 2016 wasn't able to tolerate any medications at all. Was on Lansoprazole as and when need from 2001 but haven't had to take and wldnt have been able to take since June 2016

GP gave sertraline 25mg 6/04/17 loss of appetite, gut pain and then following morning whole body shaking and vomiting. Stopped tablet.

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Posted 26 March 2017 - 09:45 AM

Scallywag, thanks for the suggestion. I am experimenting with this now to see how it goes.

Bluebird, I am so sorry for the bad reaction. That is awful. Did your magnesium have any kind of fillers in it? Have you already eliminated all unnecessary medications, supplements, artificial foods and additives, even common household cleaner chemicals to see if that will start giving your nervous system a rest?

Low dose Lexapro (5mg) for 1 year from roughly 2007-2008

Low dose Prozac (between 5mg and 10mg) for about 9 months from October 2013-July 2014

Tried another low dose of Prozac (5mg) from May 2016-July 2016 with constant horrible anxiety and insomnia

"Kindling" (I think) happened in early October 2016 after taking a high dose niacin; I woke up the next morning very sick and never fully recovered, developed strong allergies and intolerances to all supplements, medications, vitamins, herbs, chemicals, etc. after that

Late April/early May 2017--Severe adverse reaction to CES device with no signs of improvement after stopping


#14 Bluebird2009

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Posted 26 March 2017 - 10:21 PM

Hi daisies24, I'll have to check what else wld be in the magnesium but my body reacts to everything I try to take natural or prescription it is truely horrific. It started my last year on the Prozac and I didn't know Prozac was the cause and continued to take it and think that made things worse and then withdrawal just sent the nervous system crazy. I can't even take root ginger which is supposed to be good for me. I have changed my diet and try to stay away from chemicals I find car fumes etc make me feel awful. My anxiety is very high aswell so prob not helping but it's difficult to lower it down. Thanks
Prozac for 18years with break in 1999 for pregnancy. Started to feel unwell with numerous problems 2015 and think I was in a tolerance to drug. Started to come off May 2016 and by June 2016 wasn't able to tolerate any medications at all. Was on Lansoprazole as and when need from 2001 but haven't had to take and wldnt have been able to take since June 2016

GP gave sertraline 25mg 6/04/17 loss of appetite, gut pain and then following morning whole body shaking and vomiting. Stopped tablet.