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#1 apace41

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Posted 30 March 2017 - 08:17 AM

This is a podcast from yesterday's show on The Peter Breggin Hour -- all on antidepressants.

 

https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-bsds9-69326f#.WN0u3AXJK2I.email

 

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Andy


Started Sertraline 50mg and Clonazapam .375mg circa 2000; Sx Spring 2012. increased to .5 Clonazapam - no improvement; Started taper of K November 2012 (benzo sites said "taper benzo first"); increased Sert to100mg no improvement; Finished K microtaper in November 2014
Started Sertraline taper from 100mg in December 2014 by reducing to 75mg; Reduced to 62.5mg on January 1, 2015 and 50mg on February 1, 2015; Held at 50mg through April 5 when I got Rx for liquid Sertraline
Reduced dosage in 10% or less drops from 50mg to 25mg -- at single tablet on 10/5

Held through February with no noticeable change

March 2016 attempted to begin taper again but miscalculated into 1 week accidental updose to 32.5mg; dropped back to 25mg for 1 week; tapered to 22.5mg the following week; hit with symptoms and tried to stabilize between 22.5mg and 25mg.  Transitioned to all liquid for accuracy. Was dealing with horrible insomnia which had me sleeping once every other day.  Went back to 25mg liquid and held until October 1, 2016.  October 1 cut 4% to 24mg.  November 1 cut 8.3% to 22mg. December 1 cut 9% to 20mg.  Not great but functional. 2/1/17 cut 5% to 19mg.  Taking Spray-on Magnesium, Magnesium supplements, D3, Omega 3, curcumin, Co-Q10, Valerian, 81mg Aspirin, L-Theanine


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Posted 30 March 2017 - 12:29 PM

Very nice find, Andy.  I liked his historical perspective. He even mentioned the fact that tranquilizers were used in the testing of Prozac. 

 

Dr. Breggin mentioned suicidal thoughts and violence in people on Varenicline, which is Chantix, and I remembered an article I came across recently when researching the black box warnings.  Evidently Dr. Breggin hasn't read about the latest news on the black box warnings on these types of anti-smoking drugs, which are chemically similar to SSRIs. 

 

It seems the black box warning is being removed: 

 

Black Box Warnings Removed From Chantix, Zyban

 

The way I understood Dr. Breggin, you can really tell how dangerous these drugs are because these suicidal and violent reactions happen even in people without any mental illness history, such as people using them to stop smoking. So it was always helpful to cite the anti-smoking drugs like varenicline as an example proving that these drugs are, in fact, very dangerous. 

 

But now that logical argument has been removed from the conversation with the removal of the black box warnings. 

 

I fear that with the oncoming deregulation of the government as a whole and the FDA specifically, there will be fewer black box warnings and there's now precedent of them being removed (although perhaps this has happened before?).

 

So I liked that show, but I wish Dr. Breggin would have talked about the removal of black box warnings and what this could mean for the future, especially since from that article, it seems the warning was removed after only one study.  


Locked up and forced onto drugs as a teenager - misdiagnosed manic depressive.
Developed dependency and stayed on cocktails of drugs for nearly 30 years.

My Intro: Shep's Journey

Last drug cocktail: Seroquel, Halcion, Klonopin, Sonata, Vibrydd, and Dexetrine

After 30 years of polydrug use, completely med free May 22, 2015.

Remaining symptoms: dp/dr with memory problems and insomnia

 

I am not a medical professional, and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. 

 

 


#3 apace41

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Posted 30 March 2017 - 12:36 PM

The issue of the removal of the black box warning on Chantix is really very frightening.  Yes, there have been early efforts by the SSRI manufacturers to seek removal of the similar warnings on their products.

 

Here is another episode of Breggin's show in which he interviews Kim Witczak who is doing citizen activist work in this regard.

 

https://drpeterbregg...417-1484234350/

 

Her story is a harrowing one told on an earlier podcast of his.  Her husband, Woody, had a minor issue, went to a doc, got prescribed an SSRI and wound up committing suicide.  If you are up to it that podcast is really powerful.

 

Best,

 

Andy


Started Sertraline 50mg and Clonazapam .375mg circa 2000; Sx Spring 2012. increased to .5 Clonazapam - no improvement; Started taper of K November 2012 (benzo sites said "taper benzo first"); increased Sert to100mg no improvement; Finished K microtaper in November 2014
Started Sertraline taper from 100mg in December 2014 by reducing to 75mg; Reduced to 62.5mg on January 1, 2015 and 50mg on February 1, 2015; Held at 50mg through April 5 when I got Rx for liquid Sertraline
Reduced dosage in 10% or less drops from 50mg to 25mg -- at single tablet on 10/5

Held through February with no noticeable change

March 2016 attempted to begin taper again but miscalculated into 1 week accidental updose to 32.5mg; dropped back to 25mg for 1 week; tapered to 22.5mg the following week; hit with symptoms and tried to stabilize between 22.5mg and 25mg.  Transitioned to all liquid for accuracy. Was dealing with horrible insomnia which had me sleeping once every other day.  Went back to 25mg liquid and held until October 1, 2016.  October 1 cut 4% to 24mg.  November 1 cut 8.3% to 22mg. December 1 cut 9% to 20mg.  Not great but functional. 2/1/17 cut 5% to 19mg.  Taking Spray-on Magnesium, Magnesium supplements, D3, Omega 3, curcumin, Co-Q10, Valerian, 81mg Aspirin, L-Theanine


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Posted 01 April 2017 - 02:46 PM

Thank you for linking that podcast. It was just the background info I was looking for. 

 

It's quite clear that our entire medical care establishment is part of the corporate coup d'├ętat and just like Exxon hid climate change data 40 years ago, big pharma is using similar tricks, magic mirrors and payoffs to hide the bodies from their own form of toxic sacrifice zones. 

 

I found the discussion on the removal of the black box warning to be quite chilling, and also, the connections to direct-to-consumer advertising and marketing off-label to be equally concerning. It seems that the first amendment rights of big pharma outweigh the first amendment rights of patients. Seems that corporations are people. Too bad they can't take these drugs!

 

Witczak's commentary was excellent when she stated that when marketing and promoting off-label is legal, the drug companies can create their own "science" to support the marketing.  With ghost writing in medical journals, fraud in drug trials, and the removal of the black box warnings, that's really what is happening. 

 

She mentioned the name Thomas Moore as being involved in the fight to keep the black box warning on Chantix, and I remembered him from a MiA article, as he was involved in this study:

 

1 in 6 Adults in the US Takes a Psychiatric Drug

 

If they remove the black box warnings, expand the rights of big pharma to continue their off-label marketing, and keep silencing the voices of victims and their families . . . with tens of millions of people on these drugs, this may be the end to us as human beings. 

 

Sorry, Andy, I'm taking your thread off topic. 

 

 

 

Her story is a harrowing one told on an earlier podcast of his.  Her husband, Woody, had a minor issue, went to a doc, got prescribed an SSRI and wound up committing suicide.  If you are up to it that podcast is really powerful.

 

 

 

 

I tried to find this one by searching for Kim Witczak's name in the search box over on Dr. Breggin's podcast website, but I couldn't find it.

 

Do you happen to have the link? Yes, I'd like to hear more of her narrative. I'm really glad she's taking this on and speaking truth to power. 

 

Thanks again for posting this great information. 


Locked up and forced onto drugs as a teenager - misdiagnosed manic depressive.
Developed dependency and stayed on cocktails of drugs for nearly 30 years.

My Intro: Shep's Journey

Last drug cocktail: Seroquel, Halcion, Klonopin, Sonata, Vibrydd, and Dexetrine

After 30 years of polydrug use, completely med free May 22, 2015.

Remaining symptoms: dp/dr with memory problems and insomnia

 

I am not a medical professional, and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. 

 

 


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Posted 01 April 2017 - 03:09 PM

Start with this from Kelly Brogan's site:

http://kellybroganmd...could-be-woody/

I know I heard her on a podcast and thought it was Breggin, but might have been elsewhere. I will find it, Shep.

Best,

Andy

Started Sertraline 50mg and Clonazapam .375mg circa 2000; Sx Spring 2012. increased to .5 Clonazapam - no improvement; Started taper of K November 2012 (benzo sites said "taper benzo first"); increased Sert to100mg no improvement; Finished K microtaper in November 2014
Started Sertraline taper from 100mg in December 2014 by reducing to 75mg; Reduced to 62.5mg on January 1, 2015 and 50mg on February 1, 2015; Held at 50mg through April 5 when I got Rx for liquid Sertraline
Reduced dosage in 10% or less drops from 50mg to 25mg -- at single tablet on 10/5

Held through February with no noticeable change

March 2016 attempted to begin taper again but miscalculated into 1 week accidental updose to 32.5mg; dropped back to 25mg for 1 week; tapered to 22.5mg the following week; hit with symptoms and tried to stabilize between 22.5mg and 25mg.  Transitioned to all liquid for accuracy. Was dealing with horrible insomnia which had me sleeping once every other day.  Went back to 25mg liquid and held until October 1, 2016.  October 1 cut 4% to 24mg.  November 1 cut 8.3% to 22mg. December 1 cut 9% to 20mg.  Not great but functional. 2/1/17 cut 5% to 19mg.  Taking Spray-on Magnesium, Magnesium supplements, D3, Omega 3, curcumin, Co-Q10, Valerian, 81mg Aspirin, L-Theanine


#6 Shep

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Posted 01 April 2017 - 03:56 PM

Thanks for the link!  Check it out - it led to another site:

 

Woody Matters

 

That site has a TON of legal information and media articles that Kim Witczak has been working on over the years. 

 

Oh Andy, please don't spend too much time looking for the podcast. I thought it was something you had already. 

 

I found a YouTube video with Kim talking about it here:

 

Psych-Drugs Harm - 5E: Kim Witczak - Woody Matters - Sept.16, 2015 - CPH

 

(CAUTION: This video involves details about a suicide from Zoloft, so please don't watch if you are easily triggered.)

 

Kim Witczak is a powerful spokeswoman. 


Locked up and forced onto drugs as a teenager - misdiagnosed manic depressive.
Developed dependency and stayed on cocktails of drugs for nearly 30 years.

My Intro: Shep's Journey

Last drug cocktail: Seroquel, Halcion, Klonopin, Sonata, Vibrydd, and Dexetrine

After 30 years of polydrug use, completely med free May 22, 2015.

Remaining symptoms: dp/dr with memory problems and insomnia

 

I am not a medical professional, and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.