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Okay - I am still VERY sensitive to bad eating. I ate pizza and cake on Saturday and had some anxiety on Sunday morning. And I ate some garlic bread (bleached white flour and additives) and some ice cream (with chocolate syrup!) last night and woke up today with some anxiety.

 

And I also had some pain right where my adrenal glands are!

 

My adrenals are obviously just not ready to handle the sugar and bad carbs.

 

I didn't even really enjoy the ice cream - and the pizza was horrible! I ate both out of weakness and a sense of pride ("I'm so tired of not being able to eat x,y, and z because of those stupid meds!!!").

 

So I need to stray strong, humble myself, and do what is right for my body!

 

SJ

Main thread: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/14472-shakeyjerr-say-hello/

History: Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003. Ended up back on after 4 months because taking a beta-blocker caused immediate depression (just 2 doses - turned out I didn't even need it; I had no other withdrawal symptoms - I might have ended up med and withdrawal-free otherwise :(). - Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) in 2010. - Did a self-taper during 2016. - Developed Discontinuation Syndrome 02/17.

Supplements: Magnesium-Glycinate 400mg split into 4 100mg doses throughout the day. Vitamin C 500mg - once per day. Fish Oil 1360 mg (950 mg Active Omega-3) - twice per day.

I'm not a doctor. I use the internet, experience, and trial & error. Seek medical advice if necessary.

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Hi SJ I am the same ,it's like our will power has been aroaded also,I'm in a serious state the last few days with extreme anxiety and nearly physcotic it feals like ,the feeling of loosing my mind is getting more frequent. And all I want to do is go back drinking and stop this misery .

Looking back on the last month ,I've eaten bad ,stress is worst ever ,it all coralates,so Ile have to think of leaving my area and environment if I'm going to heal,but what do I do about my partner ,that is at her end of patience .

What I've read about the anxiety/panic brain points to totally isolation to recover,for me anyhow ,it's a living hell ,I've noticed by body is curling into a ball from the muscles and knots being tensed from extreme anxiety .

I'm on constant watch for my mental state it's scary .

I actually seem to be craving the bad foods I shouldn't be eating 

judging between a wave and the fact I'm very sick is very hard so I think I've been lying to myself for 2 years and now I'm dealing with the fall out.

Half my problems are from the years of being stuck and wasted years on the meds and it's all hiting me like tsunami since Christmas .

Thanks for the vent on your thread 

Take great care

Alcohol free since February 2015 

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18 minutes ago, powerback said:

Hi SJ I am the same ,it's like our will power has been aroaded also,I'm in a serious state the last few days with extreme anxiety and nearly physcotic it feals like ,the feeling of loosing my mind is getting more frequent. And all I want to do is go back drinking and stop this misery .

Looking back on the last month ,I've eaten bad ,stress is worst ever ,it all coralates,so Ile have to think of leaving my area and environment if I'm going to heal,but what do I do about my partner ,that is at her end of patience .

What I've read about the anxiety/panic brain points to totally isolation to recover,for me anyhow ,it's a living hell ,I've noticed by body is curling into a ball from the muscles and knots being tensed from extreme anxiety .

I'm on constant watch for my mental state it's scary .

I actually seem to be craving the bad foods I shouldn't be eating 

judging between a wave and the fact I'm very sick is very hard so I think I've been lying to myself for 2 years and now I'm dealing with the fall out.

Half my problems are from the years of being stuck and wasted years on the meds and it's all hiting me like tsunami since Christmas .

Thanks for the vent on your thread 

Take great care

 

So sorry you are struggling, PB.

 

I do advise cleaning out your diet as best as possible. It would be very helpful to both you (and your partner if she does it as well).

 

Also, I really do recommend reading Claire Weekes' book "Hope and Help For Your Nerves." Yes, the language is pretty stilted given when it was written. But it is very spot on. I found it to be a great help. A more modern version is  Barry McDonagh's "DARE: The New Way to End Anxiety and Stop Panic Attacks Fast." He admits he is building on Weekes' work. I read the first couple of chapters on Amazon's "look inside" - it reads smoothly and looks to be rather helpful. I will probably get myself a copy in the future.

There are even chapters in Weekes' book that family members, friends, and loved ones can read to help them understand what is going on and how to help and how to persevere through it too.

 

Be well, my friend. I am praying for you!

 

SJ

Main thread: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/14472-shakeyjerr-say-hello/

History: Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003. Ended up back on after 4 months because taking a beta-blocker caused immediate depression (just 2 doses - turned out I didn't even need it; I had no other withdrawal symptoms - I might have ended up med and withdrawal-free otherwise :(). - Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) in 2010. - Did a self-taper during 2016. - Developed Discontinuation Syndrome 02/17.

Supplements: Magnesium-Glycinate 400mg split into 4 100mg doses throughout the day. Vitamin C 500mg - once per day. Fish Oil 1360 mg (950 mg Active Omega-3) - twice per day.

I'm not a doctor. I use the internet, experience, and trial & error. Seek medical advice if necessary.

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13 hours ago, ShakeyJerr said:

 

So sorry you are struggling, PB.

 

I do advise cleaning out your diet as best as possible. It would be very helpful to both you (and your partner if she does it as well).

 

Also, I really do recommend reading Claire Weekes' book "Hope and Help For Your Nerves." Yes, the language is pretty stilted given when it was written. But it is very spot on. I found it to be a great help. A more modern version is  Barry McDonagh's "DARE: The New Way to End Anxiety and Stop Panic Attacks Fast." He admits he is building on Weekes' work. I read the first couple of chapters on Amazon's "look inside" - it reads smoothly and looks to be rather helpful. I will probably get myself a copy in the future.

There are even chapters in Weekes' book that family members, friends, and loved ones can read to help them understand what is going on and how to help and how to persevere through it too.

 

Be well, my friend. I am praying for you!

 

SJ

Thanks SJ your so kind ,if I could only eat like her ,she's got  a great diet ,basically  a vegan diet for a couple of years ,vegan deserts are yummy and no guilt ? 

I'm having a nightmareish few days ,so your heartfelt post is appreciated . I can't even read madinamerica at the moment because I'm so sensitive to triggers ,Ile check them links out.

I wish you the most fulfiled recovery ,you deserve it .

PB

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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There's also a guy on YouTube called THat anxiety guy ,I think he's great help,but the extreme anxiety and panic when these drugs are in my system are a different level,that I believe will never change untill there out of my system ,the urge to stop the drugs quicker is increasing everyday ,I've barely had a few days no symptoms for 2 years when I went from 75mg to 37.5 .so having cold turkey symptoms still taking it is horrible .

I've said on my post I'm never going back on my taper but when days are this bad ,the option looks like cold turkey or a different drug , constant white nuckle feeling .

Come on big deep in your soul PB:(

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

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17 minutes ago, powerback said:

I can't even read madinamerica at the moment because I'm so sensitive to triggers

 

I'm not surprised by that. Both the web site and (from what I gather) Whitaker's book focus on the problem of antidepressant use and the politics involved, not on practical solutions for those of us who are recovering from the meds. I pretty much stay away from that stuff now and focus on things that provide solutions.

 

Weekes' book (and the little I read in McDonagh's "DARE") do have potential triggers in that she accurately describes what we are going through - but then she goes right into solutions for our anxiety.

 

Also, have you read the "Healing the Limbic System" thread I started here? I think the first post there and the links I provide would be really helpful to you. Again, it's about moving away from the triggers and into the healing solutions.
 

SJ

Main thread: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/14472-shakeyjerr-say-hello/

History: Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003. Ended up back on after 4 months because taking a beta-blocker caused immediate depression (just 2 doses - turned out I didn't even need it; I had no other withdrawal symptoms - I might have ended up med and withdrawal-free otherwise :(). - Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) in 2010. - Did a self-taper during 2016. - Developed Discontinuation Syndrome 02/17.

Supplements: Magnesium-Glycinate 400mg split into 4 100mg doses throughout the day. Vitamin C 500mg - once per day. Fish Oil 1360 mg (950 mg Active Omega-3) - twice per day.

I'm not a doctor. I use the internet, experience, and trial & error. Seek medical advice if necessary.

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12 hours ago, ShakeyJerr said:

 

I'm not surprised by that. Both the web site and (from what I gather) Whitaker's book focus on the problem of antidepressant use and the politics involved, not on practical solutions for those of us who are recovering from the meds. I pretty much stay away from that stuff now and focus on things that provide solutions.

 

Weekes' book (and the little I read in McDonagh's "DARE") do have potential triggers in that she accurately describes what we are going through - but then she goes right into solutions for our anxiety.

 

Also, have you read the "Healing the Limbic System" thread I started here? I think the first post there and the links I provide would be really helpful to you. Again, it's about moving away from the triggers and into the healing solutions.
 

SJ

Ye I must read it thanks SJ ,I I need to put weeks together of no triggers ,I need to build myself a dark soundproof room I'm mentaly exhausted ,thanks for the interaction on a particularly bad day ,I needed it 

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1 hour ago, powerback said:

the option looks like cold turkey

 

No cold turkey! I have read to many horror stories on here about cold turkey.

 

1 hour ago, powerback said:

Come on big deep in your soul

 

God's here for you. Pray it out.

 

SJ

 

 

Main thread: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/14472-shakeyjerr-say-hello/

History: Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003. Ended up back on after 4 months because taking a beta-blocker caused immediate depression (just 2 doses - turned out I didn't even need it; I had no other withdrawal symptoms - I might have ended up med and withdrawal-free otherwise :(). - Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) in 2010. - Did a self-taper during 2016. - Developed Discontinuation Syndrome 02/17.

Supplements: Magnesium-Glycinate 400mg split into 4 100mg doses throughout the day. Vitamin C 500mg - once per day. Fish Oil 1360 mg (950 mg Active Omega-3) - twice per day.

I'm not a doctor. I use the internet, experience, and trial & error. Seek medical advice if necessary.

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40 minutes ago, ShakeyJerr said:

 

No cold turkey! I have read to many horror stories on here about cold turkey.

 

 

God's here for you. Pray it out.

 

SJ

 

 

at risk at sounding self pitiful I'm afraid I'm living the horror stories I read SJ ,but I wont give up I deserve peace and serenity , I will hold on to that.

 I've promised myself ile keep traveling through hell and wait till I arrive at the peace of the forest  and green meadows .

 

take care of your own well being SJ ,from what I see on these threads you give a lot to others .

peace to your heart and family .

PB

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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Skeeter - one of the staff members here, came across some important information concerning the Adrenal Cocktail that I use and have told other people here about. I have had success with the cocktail, but Skeeter points out some concerns for those who might have certain health issues.

 

As always, remember that I am not a doctor. When I share advice here, it is based on what I find during my own personal research and that has worked for me personally. Anyone with health issues/concerns should consult their own doctor, and of course do their own research. 

 

Here is what Skeeter wrote:
 

If you do not mind, I would like to share what I found on cream of tartar, (aka potassium bitartrate, or potassium hydrogen tartarate).  For healthy members, this is not an issue, but on this site, we do not ask for all health issues, just s/sx due to withdrawal. This info provided is aimed at our members with other health issues.

 

The link is directly below the information from each site noted just below. Please read each site, I have noted the most important information just above the link, but there is more info on each site.


Health concern #1 is minor, Health concern #2 is the bigger worry on the following link:

Link: http://www.fooducate.com/app#!page=post&id=57A335CB-563C-D7F1-4F76-949BDBB9BD7D

  

High Potassium from The Journal of Toxicology

Cream of tartar is composed of potassium bitartrate, a byproduct of wine production. Because of its high potassium content, taking large amounts as a natural remedy may result in higher-than-normal potassium levels. Your body works to keep electrolytes like potassium in balance, and any disruption has a negative impact.

Potassium plays a role in regulating your heartbeat, so high levels can cause your heart to beat too fast or even stop. Taking cream of tartar may not be safe for people with kidney problems who typically require a potassium-restricted diet.

 https://www.livestrong.com/article/174494-cream-of-tartar-natural-remedies/

 

Who should not consume Potassium Bitartrate/Cream of Tartar/Potassium Hydrogen Tartarate?   

People suffering from Addison’s disease, diabetes, acute renal failure or those undergoing treatments that
prevent the excretion of potassium from the body through urine should not use it. 

Also, consumption of large amounts of cream of tartar may cause nausea, diarrhea, and inflammation of the digestive system.
Lastly, 
it is not advisable to consume it without consulting a healthcare specialist.                                                                           

Link:http://www.yourhealthremedy.com/harmful-compounds/potassium-hydrogen-tartrate-uses-and-side-effects/ 

 

May I suggest a warning worded something like this;
If you are healthy, cream of tartar (aka potassium tartarate) at 1 tsp/day total = 500mg (1/2 tsp 2x/day) with OJ should provide no harm at all. Daily amount needed 3400mg.
Those suffering from Addison’s disease, diabetes, acute renal failure, are on dialysis, or for those undergoing treatments that prevent the excretion of potassium from the body through urine should not use cream of tartar.  If you suffer from any cardiac, kidney, or electrolyte issues, or suffer from severe low blood pressure, or multiple health conditions you are medicated for, you should consult with your doctor/HCP before adding extra potassium bitartrate to your daily diet. When speaking to your HCP, please give both names: cream of tartar, & potassium bitartrate.

Main thread: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/14472-shakeyjerr-say-hello/

History: Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003. Ended up back on after 4 months because taking a beta-blocker caused immediate depression (just 2 doses - turned out I didn't even need it; I had no other withdrawal symptoms - I might have ended up med and withdrawal-free otherwise :(). - Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) in 2010. - Did a self-taper during 2016. - Developed Discontinuation Syndrome 02/17.

Supplements: Magnesium-Glycinate 400mg split into 4 100mg doses throughout the day. Vitamin C 500mg - once per day. Fish Oil 1360 mg (950 mg Active Omega-3) - twice per day.

I'm not a doctor. I use the internet, experience, and trial & error. Seek medical advice if necessary.

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On 7/18/2017 at 8:01 AM, ShakeyJerr said:

Okay - I am still VERY sensitive to bad eating. I ate pizza and cake on Saturday and had some anxiety on Sunday morning. And I ate some garlic bread (bleached white flour and additives) and some ice cream (with chocolate syrup!) last night and woke up today with some anxiety.

 

And I also had some pain right where my adrenal glands are!

 

My adrenals are obviously just not ready to handle the sugar and bad carbs.

 

I didn't even really enjoy the ice cream - and the pizza was horrible! I ate both out of weakness and a sense of pride ("I'm so tired of not being able to eat x,y, and z because of those stupid meds!!!").

 

So I need to stray strong, humble myself, and do what is right for my body!

 

SJ

 

 

Oh i Hear you on the food, I ate a pc of cake yesterday in spite of all the trouble this has caused me in the past. not smart. :/

 

where are the adrenal glands? I didn't know you could have pain there...?

 

  • pysch med history: 1974 @ age 18 to Oct 2017 (approx 43 yrs total) 
  •  Drug list: stelazine, haldol, elavil, lithium, zoloft, celexa, lexapro(doses as high as 40mgs), klonopin, ambien, seroquel(high doses), depakote, zyprexa, lamictal- plus brief trials of dozens of other psych meds over the years
  • started lexapro 2002, dose varied from 20mgs to 40mgs. First attempt to get off it was 2007- WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 
  •  2013 too fast taper down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs
  •  June of 2105, tapered again too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". felt ok until  Sept, then acute WD hit!!  reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106
  • Tapered off to zero by  Oct. 2017 Doing very well. 
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1 hour ago, Happy2Heal said:

where are the adrenal glands? I didn't know you could have pain there...?

 

The adrenals are in your back, just above the kidneys. Adrenal fatigue can cause pain in your back, and that pain can sometimes also radiate and/or present in the hips and knees.

Main thread: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/14472-shakeyjerr-say-hello/

History: Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003. Ended up back on after 4 months because taking a beta-blocker caused immediate depression (just 2 doses - turned out I didn't even need it; I had no other withdrawal symptoms - I might have ended up med and withdrawal-free otherwise :(). - Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) in 2010. - Did a self-taper during 2016. - Developed Discontinuation Syndrome 02/17.

Supplements: Magnesium-Glycinate 400mg split into 4 100mg doses throughout the day. Vitamin C 500mg - once per day. Fish Oil 1360 mg (950 mg Active Omega-3) - twice per day.

I'm not a doctor. I use the internet, experience, and trial & error. Seek medical advice if necessary.

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On 7/18/2017 at 7:09 AM, ShakeyJerr said:

Barry McDonagh's "DARE: The New Way to End Anxiety and Stop Panic Attacks Fast." He admits he is building on Weekes' work. I read the first couple of chapters on Amazon's "look inside" - it reads smoothly and looks to be rather helpful. I will probably get myself a copy in the future.

 

This is a great book, read it a couple of times since this all started in January. May need to give it another read now that I have an idea of what the heck has happened to me and I know I just need to "float" through the symptoms of it. 

2008 - October 28th, 2016: Zoloft 50 - 150 mgs, settled on 50mgs from 2011 - 2016.
January 23rd - March 1st 2017: Zoloft 50mgs, direct switch to Lexapro.
March 1st - May 1st 2017: Lexapro 10 mgs, down to 5mgs for a week, then off.
June 1st - July 31st 2017: Paxil 20mgs, Lyrica 600mgs
August 1st - September 30th 2017: Paxil 40mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs
October 1st  - November 12th 2017: Paxil 60mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs
November 12th, 2017 - September 4th 2018: Paxil 40mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs 

September 4th - September 27th: Paxil 30mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs

September 28th - November 7th: Paxil 20mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs (Also Testosterone Therapy started in June 2018 and ended in November 2018)

November 7th 2018 - February 22nd 2019: Paxil 10mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs

February 22nd 2019 - April 17th: Zyprexa 2.5mgs, Klonopin 1mgs

April 17th - Now: Zoloft 25mgs, Zyprexa 2.5mgs, Klonopin .5mgs

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Well, today is an "as needed" day for my theanine. I have been in a window for about 3 weeks now (praise God!), but some anxiety is threatening to creep back in. I had a shaky day yesterday; several crying outbursts, a bit hyper, and some cognitive difficulties. Nothing to worry about per say, but I'm going to use a bit of theanine today to help me "float" through things.

 

SJ

 

Main thread: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/14472-shakeyjerr-say-hello/

History: Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003. Ended up back on after 4 months because taking a beta-blocker caused immediate depression (just 2 doses - turned out I didn't even need it; I had no other withdrawal symptoms - I might have ended up med and withdrawal-free otherwise :(). - Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) in 2010. - Did a self-taper during 2016. - Developed Discontinuation Syndrome 02/17.

Supplements: Magnesium-Glycinate 400mg split into 4 100mg doses throughout the day. Vitamin C 500mg - once per day. Fish Oil 1360 mg (950 mg Active Omega-3) - twice per day.

I'm not a doctor. I use the internet, experience, and trial & error. Seek medical advice if necessary.

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I am not willing to declare this window over, but I did have a bit of anxiety yesterday and a small bout of hyperness followed by brain fog last night. I also have not been sleeping well the past few nights.

 

I blame it all on bad eating choices Saturday and Sunday. My body is just not ready for bad carbs.

 

I do have a question:

 

Anybody ever have the symptom of a weak speaking voice? I normally have a smooth baritone voice. But I have noticed that when my symptoms are up that my voice is weak and crackly. Could just be fatigue.

 

SJ

Main thread: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/14472-shakeyjerr-say-hello/

History: Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003. Ended up back on after 4 months because taking a beta-blocker caused immediate depression (just 2 doses - turned out I didn't even need it; I had no other withdrawal symptoms - I might have ended up med and withdrawal-free otherwise :(). - Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) in 2010. - Did a self-taper during 2016. - Developed Discontinuation Syndrome 02/17.

Supplements: Magnesium-Glycinate 400mg split into 4 100mg doses throughout the day. Vitamin C 500mg - once per day. Fish Oil 1360 mg (950 mg Active Omega-3) - twice per day.

I'm not a doctor. I use the internet, experience, and trial & error. Seek medical advice if necessary.

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I had several stretches during my taper where my voice went totally weird. Higher pitch and constantly breaking.  It would show up for a few weeks and then fade only to show up again a while later.  Haven't had much trouble the past six months.  WD, fatigue, stress all seemed to be factors.

 

Sorry to hear that your window is sliding shut, it will open again soon.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Final Dose 0.016mg.     Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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32 minutes ago, brassmonkey said:

Higher pitch and constantly breaking

 

Yup, that describes it for me!

 

32 minutes ago, brassmonkey said:

Haven't had much trouble the past six months

 

Good to know!

 

33 minutes ago, brassmonkey said:

Sorry to hear that your window is sliding shut, it will open again soon.

 

Actually, I am feeling much improved from this morning. Definitely the bad food choices caused it. Darn chicken parms! Why do you have to be made on white rolls and be so darn yummy?

 

SJ

Main thread: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/14472-shakeyjerr-say-hello/

History: Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003. Ended up back on after 4 months because taking a beta-blocker caused immediate depression (just 2 doses - turned out I didn't even need it; I had no other withdrawal symptoms - I might have ended up med and withdrawal-free otherwise :(). - Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) in 2010. - Did a self-taper during 2016. - Developed Discontinuation Syndrome 02/17.

Supplements: Magnesium-Glycinate 400mg split into 4 100mg doses throughout the day. Vitamin C 500mg - once per day. Fish Oil 1360 mg (950 mg Active Omega-3) - twice per day.

I'm not a doctor. I use the internet, experience, and trial & error. Seek medical advice if necessary.

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7 minutes ago, ShakeyJerr said:

 

Yup, that describes it for me!

 

 

Good to know!

 

 

Actually, I am feeling much improved from this morning. Definitely the bad food choices caused it. Darn chicken parms! Why do you have to be made on white rolls and be so darn yummy?

 

SJ

Hi SJ:

 

Glad you are feeling better.

 

Hope your window continues to open really wide. You deserve it. :)

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

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Had a good couple of days again.

 

But today I am feeling some anxiety. Definitely triggered by some family stress last night, then a bad night's sleep, and then a bit of stress this morning (which wasn't really stress, but my mind made it stressful).

 

So I guess I am still looking forward to more recovery, to the day when the regular stresses of life do not trigger symptoms. But for today, it's Bible study and reviewing the highlights I made in Claire Weeke's book. That should calm me and lift my spirits!

 

SJ

Main thread: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/14472-shakeyjerr-say-hello/

History: Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003. Ended up back on after 4 months because taking a beta-blocker caused immediate depression (just 2 doses - turned out I didn't even need it; I had no other withdrawal symptoms - I might have ended up med and withdrawal-free otherwise :(). - Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) in 2010. - Did a self-taper during 2016. - Developed Discontinuation Syndrome 02/17.

Supplements: Magnesium-Glycinate 400mg split into 4 100mg doses throughout the day. Vitamin C 500mg - once per day. Fish Oil 1360 mg (950 mg Active Omega-3) - twice per day.

I'm not a doctor. I use the internet, experience, and trial & error. Seek medical advice if necessary.

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good for you SJ ,happy to hear you enjoying the good times ,there so precious .

PB

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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Just going to use this space today to work a few things out in my mind that are causing me anxiety...

 

I am an over-planner. Everything has to be planned. I have pretty much always been that way. I am Mr. Logistics. Growing up, I was responsible for pretty much running the household. Both of my parents worked. And my older brothers were to important to be bothered with chores. And my younger sister was to "precious." So I cooked and cleaned and did everybody's laundry. I food shopped and meal planned.

 

Right now in my life, I am back to having all of those responsibilities again. I have only been able to find temp work since being laid off in September of 2015. My wife ended up having to take a job that she hates and she works 50+ hours a week under constant deadline stress and the threat of being fired. So I handle all of the chores, cooking, and planning (though our 10 year old daughter does pitch in some).

 

So anyway, meal planning is very important to me. And though my wife says it is not important to her, boy, she sure does complain when a proper meal is not presented in a timely fashion - meaning, right when she breaks for lunch (she works at home) or is ready for dinner.

 

And because I have anxiety over this issue stemming back to my childhood, my withdrawal-recovery brain focuses on this issue.

 

Well, I just got back from the grocery store. And there just wasn't anything good to buy at a good price to make for dinner tonight that we didn't just eat over the past two days already.

 

Now, it's Saturday. And we are not poor (we're not rich either; living on Long Island is just so darn expensive that making ends meet when one of us only works part-time as a temp - so I am careful with money). We could just punt and get dinner. But I hate paying restaurant prices. And fast food, pizza, and Chinese food (God, I miss pizza and Chinese food!) are out thanks to the damage done to my (and most of our's) system by those stupid meds. Clean eating is a must for me.

 

I could just make a pot of pasta for my wife and daughter and eat a some cereal (pasta is out now too for me).

 

But instead, I am feeling anxious and guilty and afraid that I will disappoint my wife. This is what Claire Weeke's calls "second fear." We are supposed to avoid second fear; it's actually potentially more debilitating than initial anxiety because it can trigger an emotional spiral.

 

I know I need to breath, to find some way to distract myself, and to work my tool kit. I am definitely not suppose to ruminate. Weeke's calls this "facing, accepting, and floating."

 

God calls it "casting our cares on Him because He cares for us."

 

So I will do my breathing exercises. And I will pray. And I will find something to distract myself with.

 

Thanks for letting me get this off of my chest. Hopefully now I can put it out of my mind.

 

SJ

Main thread: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/14472-shakeyjerr-say-hello/

History: Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003. Ended up back on after 4 months because taking a beta-blocker caused immediate depression (just 2 doses - turned out I didn't even need it; I had no other withdrawal symptoms - I might have ended up med and withdrawal-free otherwise :(). - Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) in 2010. - Did a self-taper during 2016. - Developed Discontinuation Syndrome 02/17.

Supplements: Magnesium-Glycinate 400mg split into 4 100mg doses throughout the day. Vitamin C 500mg - once per day. Fish Oil 1360 mg (950 mg Active Omega-3) - twice per day.

I'm not a doctor. I use the internet, experience, and trial & error. Seek medical advice if necessary.

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SJ,

Good you take it off.

It will get better for all of us who are in this fight to get better.

Best wishes.

08/13 - 01/14
Olanzapine, petril MD (Clonazepam ), Dicorate ER (divalproex). Soza 10 (Zolpidem)

02/14 - 05/14
Flunil ​20mg , Divaa OD 250 mg(divalproex), Amisulpride 50mg (1-0-2), zolfresh 5 mg , Quetiapine
05/14 - 08/14 Venlafaxine 75 xr ( 1-0-1), zapiz 0.25
10/14 Zaptra 12.5mg , Oxetol xr 150mg (0-0-1)
11/14 - 08/15
Paris CR 25 (paroxetine) , Oxetol xr 600 mg (0-0-1), nitrest 5mg , Quetiapine for a month.
09/15-11 Venlafaxine XR 75 ( 1-0-1), Mirtazipine 15, Respiredal 0.5, Lamitor 25, zillion 10.
12/15-02/16 Off Meds (C.T)

03/16-Mid April Sertraline, Aripropazole, Quetiapine, Etizolam.

After that : CT and on OTC supplements (Roadback), now on Ayurveda
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hi SJ

thanks for sharing your process

 

you and I are in a similar place in our healing I think.

I am now starting to work with a book called Loving What Is, by Byron Katie. I got a second hand copy for cheap off amazon.com

 

it's the kind of book you can jump around and read bits here and there.
Her basic premise is similar to CLaire Weeks, that our thoughts are causing most (if not all) of our suffering,

She even says that Reality is always kinder than the stories we tell about it. (while I might challenge her on the "always" in that statement, I otherwise think this is true)

Her book seems like a continuation of Claire weeks work, with more depth and with bringing in issues with relationships and other things.

 

There's a chapter called "Making friends with the worst that can happen" that literally made me burst into tears of relief ,as well as grief, which to me is "good pain" . It helped me to let go of something that had causes me decades of unnecessary pain, and freed me to feel the loss and to honor it.

 

to me, Unlike depression, grief is the kind of pain that you only feel when you've loved and lost. The depth of that grief is often equal to the depth of the love that had for what you lost, or so it seems to me. how could you feel so much pain if you hadn't loved deeply?  It's a way to honor the loved one and the relationship you had. It can also be a way to honor yourself.

 

 

I am amazed at how much my thoughts cause me suffering that I would not have if I just let go of these thoughts.
The book Loving What Is,  takes you thru a process that helps you to let go of them in a way that makes sense.

 

It doesn't give you the answers, it gives you the questions to ask, and you will discover the truth- as well as freedom from suffering, as you do what she calls "The Work" of inquiry.

 

You inquire about your thoughts and beliefs and you learn a LOT from this.

it may be the next step for you in your recovery, I don't know, but you might want to check into it

 

It seems to have some parallels with CBT and the like but is less limiting, I think. It's just another tool, I guess.

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

You might want to ask your wife if she would be disappointed if you made pasta. You might want to ask yourself, are you responsible for how she feels? or even, what's the worst that can happen if she is disappointed? what do you fear will happen if you disappoint her? and then ask if those things are true, are they really true, and just follow thru with that, and you may find that what you are thinking about the whole meal process is much more upsetting to you, than the reality of what is going on. If she's unhappy with pasta, is she going to hate you? never forgive you? leave you? think of you as a horrible husband?  or is the person that you are really disappointing, yourself, because preparing good meals is important to you?
(mind you,I am NOT suggesting that these things are the truth of what is going on, just tossing out IDEAS for alternates to what you think. Because what we think is not what is real. It's just what we think LOL it's sometimes a hard concept to grasp, but once you do, it gives you a lot of freedom and relief)
It also seems to be something we need to work on, over time, and practice.

 

I hope that this helps you. I know it is helping me to try to process things and let go of unnecessary fears and anxieties. so I really appreciate it when you share YOUR process

 

I love that we help each other out so much on this forum.

it is truly a one of a kind place, I think

 

 

  • pysch med history: 1974 @ age 18 to Oct 2017 (approx 43 yrs total) 
  •  Drug list: stelazine, haldol, elavil, lithium, zoloft, celexa, lexapro(doses as high as 40mgs), klonopin, ambien, seroquel(high doses), depakote, zyprexa, lamictal- plus brief trials of dozens of other psych meds over the years
  • started lexapro 2002, dose varied from 20mgs to 40mgs. First attempt to get off it was 2007- WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 
  •  2013 too fast taper down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs
  •  June of 2105, tapered again too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". felt ok until  Sept, then acute WD hit!!  reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106
  • Tapered off to zero by  Oct. 2017 Doing very well. 
  • Nov. 2018 feel 95% healed, age 63 
  • Jan. 2020 feel 100% healed, peaceful and content
  • Dec 2023 Loving life! ❤️ with all it's ups and downs ;) 
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Thanks Bhasski and H2H - Your words really help me!

 

I am going to have to check out that book, H2H. I finished Weekes' Hope and Help for Your Nerves and just started McDonagh's DARE. So I'll make Loving What Is next after that.

 

The follow up to yesterday is this:

 

I told my wife my feelings and fears. She was very understanding and said "I am going out later; I will find something for us to eat and take care of dinner tonight."

 

It was very loving and supportive on her part.

 

Unfortunately, I am undergoing my Sunday morning anxiety attack (I wrote about this problem in the thread here before). So I could certainly use prayers today!

 

SJ

 

Main thread: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/14472-shakeyjerr-say-hello/

History: Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003. Ended up back on after 4 months because taking a beta-blocker caused immediate depression (just 2 doses - turned out I didn't even need it; I had no other withdrawal symptoms - I might have ended up med and withdrawal-free otherwise :(). - Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) in 2010. - Did a self-taper during 2016. - Developed Discontinuation Syndrome 02/17.

Supplements: Magnesium-Glycinate 400mg split into 4 100mg doses throughout the day. Vitamin C 500mg - once per day. Fish Oil 1360 mg (950 mg Active Omega-3) - twice per day.

I'm not a doctor. I use the internet, experience, and trial & error. Seek medical advice if necessary.

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I got 8 hours of sleep last night - praise God!!!

 

I am still a bit fatigued, but I certainly can't complain after such a blessing. May it be the beginning of many nights of good sleep!

 

Unfortunately, I am having a 3rd day with some anxiety and a little bit of depression. My window may be closing. So let's pray that God throws the window open wide once again - and permanently!

 

I do understand that because the pattern of recovery does generally come in windows and waves that what I am feeling right now is "normal" - that my brain and body are probably moving on to another "reconstruction" project to heal my neural pathways and nervous system. Still, it would be so nice to be permanently recovered.

 

I will continue to work my toolkit: prayer, walking, mindful breathing, my supplements, reading helpful books about anxiety recovery, and a clean diet (though that is getting harder and harder to keep up what with family parties where bread and pasta products tempt my weak will).

 

SJ

Main thread: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/14472-shakeyjerr-say-hello/

History: Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003. Ended up back on after 4 months because taking a beta-blocker caused immediate depression (just 2 doses - turned out I didn't even need it; I had no other withdrawal symptoms - I might have ended up med and withdrawal-free otherwise :(). - Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) in 2010. - Did a self-taper during 2016. - Developed Discontinuation Syndrome 02/17.

Supplements: Magnesium-Glycinate 400mg split into 4 100mg doses throughout the day. Vitamin C 500mg - once per day. Fish Oil 1360 mg (950 mg Active Omega-3) - twice per day.

I'm not a doctor. I use the internet, experience, and trial & error. Seek medical advice if necessary.

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Shakeyjerr I have just read your post from start to finished and want to say how well you are doing in really a short space of time , I have been of Effexor for 3 years now after a c/ t by my doctor after a 15 year period of use , since then I have had every medication thrown at me and many c/t by doctors who have not got a clue , I am 5 months of all meds now and in a massive wave , every horrible symptom going I have and I am literally house bound , praying for a miracle , after reading your posts you have given me some hope , I have been on a drug cocktail for over 25 years and then c/t in February , I can relate to everything you say including the shaking it's horrible , and the crying jags , I pray for a window and recovery , but I have seen some recovery in you and that gives me hope , I have even thought about reinstating Effexor after 3 years of just to see if it will bring me any relief from these disabiltating symptoms , I wish you well

2001 to jan 2015 Effexor 150 mg 

jan 2015 15 mg mirtazapine 20 mg quetiapine 

feb 2015 quetiapine stopped 

feb 2015 30 mg of citalopram added 

feb 2015 mirtazapine increased to 30 mg 

july 2015 citalopram stopped 

sept 2015 200mg of pregabalin 

jan 2017 mirtazapine stopped

jan 2017 20 mg fluoxetine

march 2017 all meds stopped 

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I am glad that I can offer you some hope, Terry!

 

I assure you - God will help you and you will recover. Effexor is tough drug to get off of, and c/t can make things harder. But you will heal.

 

I am going to head over to your thread later and see if I can give you some specific advice over there.

 

SJ

Main thread: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/14472-shakeyjerr-say-hello/

History: Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003. Ended up back on after 4 months because taking a beta-blocker caused immediate depression (just 2 doses - turned out I didn't even need it; I had no other withdrawal symptoms - I might have ended up med and withdrawal-free otherwise :(). - Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) in 2010. - Did a self-taper during 2016. - Developed Discontinuation Syndrome 02/17.

Supplements: Magnesium-Glycinate 400mg split into 4 100mg doses throughout the day. Vitamin C 500mg - once per day. Fish Oil 1360 mg (950 mg Active Omega-3) - twice per day.

I'm not a doctor. I use the internet, experience, and trial & error. Seek medical advice if necessary.

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Been having some anxiety and a bit of depression. There are some definite triggers, like life stress, job situations, general worries... I have used my "as needed" Theanine the past few days.

 

I'm upping my fish oil dose starting today. Hopefully that will help get me to the next window.

 

SJ

Main thread: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/14472-shakeyjerr-say-hello/

History: Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003. Ended up back on after 4 months because taking a beta-blocker caused immediate depression (just 2 doses - turned out I didn't even need it; I had no other withdrawal symptoms - I might have ended up med and withdrawal-free otherwise :(). - Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) in 2010. - Did a self-taper during 2016. - Developed Discontinuation Syndrome 02/17.

Supplements: Magnesium-Glycinate 400mg split into 4 100mg doses throughout the day. Vitamin C 500mg - once per day. Fish Oil 1360 mg (950 mg Active Omega-3) - twice per day.

I'm not a doctor. I use the internet, experience, and trial & error. Seek medical advice if necessary.

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Just read this in Barry McDonagh's DARE:

 

"This is a good time to allow yourself to shake it out. Many of us have the false idea that shaking means the anxiety is getting worse. Contrary to what most people think, shaking is actually a sign that your body is releasing the anxiety. It happens when the fight-or-flight response is winding down, not up! We need to understand that shaking is a positive thing. When we allow ourselves to express our nervous energy through shaking, we discharge it much faster. Shaking is Mother Nature’s way of de-stressing. In the wild, when an animal such as a gazelle has just avoided an attack, it will shake intensely for several minutes and then return to eating grass as if nothing happened. This shaking allows it to release the buildup of stress hormones that occurred during the attack. Animals don’t need weeks of therapy; they just need to have a good shake to adjust back to life!"

 

So take that, body tremors!

 

SJ

Main thread: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/14472-shakeyjerr-say-hello/

History: Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003. Ended up back on after 4 months because taking a beta-blocker caused immediate depression (just 2 doses - turned out I didn't even need it; I had no other withdrawal symptoms - I might have ended up med and withdrawal-free otherwise :(). - Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) in 2010. - Did a self-taper during 2016. - Developed Discontinuation Syndrome 02/17.

Supplements: Magnesium-Glycinate 400mg split into 4 100mg doses throughout the day. Vitamin C 500mg - once per day. Fish Oil 1360 mg (950 mg Active Omega-3) - twice per day.

I'm not a doctor. I use the internet, experience, and trial & error. Seek medical advice if necessary.

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6 minutes ago, ShakeyJerr said:

Just read this in Barry McDonagh's DARE:

 

"This is a good time to allow yourself to shake it out. Many of us have the false idea that shaking means the anxiety is getting worse. Contrary to what most people think, shaking is actually a sign that your body is releasing the anxiety. It happens when the fight-or-flight response is winding down, not up! We need to understand that shaking is a positive thing. When we allow ourselves to express our nervous energy through shaking, we discharge it much faster. Shaking is Mother Nature’s way of de-stressing. In the wild, when an animal such as a gazelle has just avoided an attack, it will shake intensely for several minutes and then return to eating grass as if nothing happened. This shaking allows it to release the buildup of stress hormones that occurred during the attack. Animals don’t need weeks of therapy; they just need to have a good shake to adjust back to life!"

 

So take that, body tremors!

 

SJ

Way to go SJ!

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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Hi SJ:

 

Just wanted to stop by and say hi and see how you are doing.

 

Hope well. :)

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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22 hours ago, Frogie said:

Hi SJ:

 

Just wanted to stop by and say hi and see how you are doing.

 

Hope well. :)

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

 

Sudden full-blown wave. Crying jags, anxiety, stuttering, unable to form thoughts into words when I speak. Worst it has been in nearly 2 months. Can't stop crying.

Main thread: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/14472-shakeyjerr-say-hello/

History: Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003. Ended up back on after 4 months because taking a beta-blocker caused immediate depression (just 2 doses - turned out I didn't even need it; I had no other withdrawal symptoms - I might have ended up med and withdrawal-free otherwise :(). - Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) in 2010. - Did a self-taper during 2016. - Developed Discontinuation Syndrome 02/17.

Supplements: Magnesium-Glycinate 400mg split into 4 100mg doses throughout the day. Vitamin C 500mg - once per day. Fish Oil 1360 mg (950 mg Active Omega-3) - twice per day.

I'm not a doctor. I use the internet, experience, and trial & error. Seek medical advice if necessary.

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2 hours ago, ShakeyJerr said:

 

Sudden full-blown wave. Crying jags, anxiety, stuttering, unable to form thoughts into words when I speak. Worst it has been in nearly 2 months. Can't stop crying.

Ride it out SJ ,its time to focus on yourself through this ,get into them window memories and dig deep into your good kind soul .

thinking of you

PB

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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Hey Shakey ,

You mentioned that you had some stress and worry on Thursday .. It is normal for the body to respond to that days later .. Accept and float . Don't add stress to stress .Ride that wave Shakey ..

December 2014 - Lexapro 20 mg

August 2016 Med free (6 week taper)

December 22 2021  added Abilify 5mg / Ativan .5mg / Depakote ER 1000mg

Discontinued Abilify 5mg on 12-30-21---accidental dose on 1-13-22 (looks like Ativan)

Ativan PRN/Discontinued 1-14-22

Only drug is Depakote ER 1000mg ( looking to taper slow and safe for once )

3/24/22 Depakote 625mg 

Propranolol 20-40mg  PRN

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Thanks Alice1 and PB -

 

Yeah, I forgot my tools for a little bit there. It had been a while since I had experienced that intense a wave. I did try to take it easy all day. Just did some laundry and rested. I'm still pretty raw right now - feels like I got beaten up. But I am not feeling as bad as I was earlier.

 

SJ

Main thread: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/14472-shakeyjerr-say-hello/

History: Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003. Ended up back on after 4 months because taking a beta-blocker caused immediate depression (just 2 doses - turned out I didn't even need it; I had no other withdrawal symptoms - I might have ended up med and withdrawal-free otherwise :(). - Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) in 2010. - Did a self-taper during 2016. - Developed Discontinuation Syndrome 02/17.

Supplements: Magnesium-Glycinate 400mg split into 4 100mg doses throughout the day. Vitamin C 500mg - once per day. Fish Oil 1360 mg (950 mg Active Omega-3) - twice per day.

I'm not a doctor. I use the internet, experience, and trial & error. Seek medical advice if necessary.

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 Those bad waves can really bring you to your knees, but you're a survivor.  Hope you're having a better day!

Mid 2014 - June 2016 (~ 2.5 yrs): sertraline 75mg. Under advice of my Pysch NP, weaned off in 1 month

Sept 2017 - Feb 2017 (6 months): Latuda (dose 20mg up to 80mg). Under advice of Psych NP, weaned off in 6 weeks (Jan - mid Feb). Tirtated down 20mg every 2 weeks.

Nov 2017 - Feb 2017 (3 months): lamictal 100mg. Abruptly taken off. This was the "wean": 100mg, 50mg, then off

Feb 2017: sertraline 150mg for 1 week to bring me out of a severe suicidal depression. Abruptly stopped due to serotonin syndrome. Tried to reinstate 50mg a week later, but the serotonin syndrome symptoms came back. Not possible to reinstate sertraline.

March 2017: remeron 7.5mg. Took one dose that knocked me out for two days. Refused to take it again

February 2017 - March 2017: Ativan 1mg. Took 5 pills total spread out over the course of 3 weeks. No longer taking it.

6/16/18 - 6/26: celexa 1.25mg

6/27/18 - 6/29: celexa 2.5mg, 6/29 had burning and agitation within 30min of dose

6/30/18 - present: celexa 1.25mg

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