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Okay - I am still VERY sensitive to bad eating. I ate pizza and cake on Saturday and had some anxiety on Sunday morning. And I ate some garlic bread (bleached white flour and additives) and some ice cream (with chocolate syrup!) last night and woke up today with some anxiety.

 

And I also had some pain right where my adrenal glands are!

 

My adrenals are obviously just not ready to handle the sugar and bad carbs.

 

I didn't even really enjoy the ice cream - and the pizza was horrible! I ate both out of weakness and a sense of pride ("I'm so tired of not being able to eat x,y, and z because of those stupid meds!!!").

 

So I need to stray strong, humble myself, and do what is right for my body!

 

SJ

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Hi SJ I am the same ,it's like our will power has been aroaded also,I'm in a serious state the last few days with extreme anxiety and nearly physcotic it feals like ,the feeling of loosing my mind is getting more frequent. And all I want to do is go back drinking and stop this misery .

Looking back on the last month ,I've eaten bad ,stress is worst ever ,it all coralates,so Ile have to think of leaving my area and environment if I'm going to heal,but what do I do about my partner ,that is at her end of patience .

What I've read about the anxiety/panic brain points to totally isolation to recover,for me anyhow ,it's a living hell ,I've noticed by body is curling into a ball from the muscles and knots being tensed from extreme anxiety .

I'm on constant watch for my mental state it's scary .

I actually seem to be craving the bad foods I shouldn't be eating 

judging between a wave and the fact I'm very sick is very hard so I think I've been lying to myself for 2 years and now I'm dealing with the fall out.

Half my problems are from the years of being stuck and wasted years on the meds and it's all hiting me like tsunami since Christmas .

Thanks for the vent on your thread 

Take great care

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18 minutes ago, powerback said:

Hi SJ I am the same ,it's like our will power has been aroaded also,I'm in a serious state the last few days with extreme anxiety and nearly physcotic it feals like ,the feeling of loosing my mind is getting more frequent. And all I want to do is go back drinking and stop this misery .

Looking back on the last month ,I've eaten bad ,stress is worst ever ,it all coralates,so Ile have to think of leaving my area and environment if I'm going to heal,but what do I do about my partner ,that is at her end of patience .

What I've read about the anxiety/panic brain points to totally isolation to recover,for me anyhow ,it's a living hell ,I've noticed by body is curling into a ball from the muscles and knots being tensed from extreme anxiety .

I'm on constant watch for my mental state it's scary .

I actually seem to be craving the bad foods I shouldn't be eating 

judging between a wave and the fact I'm very sick is very hard so I think I've been lying to myself for 2 years and now I'm dealing with the fall out.

Half my problems are from the years of being stuck and wasted years on the meds and it's all hiting me like tsunami since Christmas .

Thanks for the vent on your thread 

Take great care

 

So sorry you are struggling, PB.

 

I do advise cleaning out your diet as best as possible. It would be very helpful to both you (and your partner if she does it as well).

 

Also, I really do recommend reading Claire Weekes' book "Hope and Help For Your Nerves." Yes, the language is pretty stilted given when it was written. But it is very spot on. I found it to be a great help. A more modern version is  Barry McDonagh's "DARE: The New Way to End Anxiety and Stop Panic Attacks Fast." He admits he is building on Weekes' work. I read the first couple of chapters on Amazon's "look inside" - it reads smoothly and looks to be rather helpful. I will probably get myself a copy in the future.

There are even chapters in Weekes' book that family members, friends, and loved ones can read to help them understand what is going on and how to help and how to persevere through it too.

 

Be well, my friend. I am praying for you!

 

SJ

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13 hours ago, ShakeyJerr said:

 

So sorry you are struggling, PB.

 

I do advise cleaning out your diet as best as possible. It would be very helpful to both you (and your partner if she does it as well).

 

Also, I really do recommend reading Claire Weekes' book "Hope and Help For Your Nerves." Yes, the language is pretty stilted given when it was written. But it is very spot on. I found it to be a great help. A more modern version is  Barry McDonagh's "DARE: The New Way to End Anxiety and Stop Panic Attacks Fast." He admits he is building on Weekes' work. I read the first couple of chapters on Amazon's "look inside" - it reads smoothly and looks to be rather helpful. I will probably get myself a copy in the future.

There are even chapters in Weekes' book that family members, friends, and loved ones can read to help them understand what is going on and how to help and how to persevere through it too.

 

Be well, my friend. I am praying for you!

 

SJ

Thanks SJ your so kind ,if I could only eat like her ,she's got  a great diet ,basically  a vegan diet for a couple of years ,vegan deserts are yummy and no guilt 😁 

I'm having a nightmareish few days ,so your heartfelt post is appreciated . I can't even read madinamerica at the moment because I'm so sensitive to triggers ,Ile check them links out.

I wish you the most fulfiled recovery ,you deserve it .

PB

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There's also a guy on YouTube called THat anxiety guy ,I think he's great help,but the extreme anxiety and panic when these drugs are in my system are a different level,that I believe will never change untill there out of my system ,the urge to stop the drugs quicker is increasing everyday ,I've barely had a few days no symptoms for 2 years when I went from 75mg to 37.5 .so having cold turkey symptoms still taking it is horrible .

I've said on my post I'm never going back on my taper but when days are this bad ,the option looks like cold turkey or a different drug , constant white nuckle feeling .

Come on big deep in your soul PB:(

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17 minutes ago, powerback said:

I can't even read madinamerica at the moment because I'm so sensitive to triggers

 

I'm not surprised by that. Both the web site and (from what I gather) Whitaker's book focus on the problem of antidepressant use and the politics involved, not on practical solutions for those of us who are recovering from the meds. I pretty much stay away from that stuff now and focus on things that provide solutions.

 

Weekes' book (and the little I read in McDonagh's "DARE") do have potential triggers in that she accurately describes what we are going through - but then she goes right into solutions for our anxiety.

 

Also, have you read the "Healing the Limbic System" thread I started here? I think the first post there and the links I provide would be really helpful to you. Again, it's about moving away from the triggers and into the healing solutions.
 

SJ

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12 hours ago, ShakeyJerr said:

 

I'm not surprised by that. Both the web site and (from what I gather) Whitaker's book focus on the problem of antidepressant use and the politics involved, not on practical solutions for those of us who are recovering from the meds. I pretty much stay away from that stuff now and focus on things that provide solutions.

 

Weekes' book (and the little I read in McDonagh's "DARE") do have potential triggers in that she accurately describes what we are going through - but then she goes right into solutions for our anxiety.

 

Also, have you read the "Healing the Limbic System" thread I started here? I think the first post there and the links I provide would be really helpful to you. Again, it's about moving away from the triggers and into the healing solutions.
 

SJ

Ye I must read it thanks SJ ,I I need to put weeks together of no triggers ,I need to build myself a dark soundproof room I'm mentaly exhausted ,thanks for the interaction on a particularly bad day ,I needed it 

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1 hour ago, powerback said:

the option looks like cold turkey

 

No cold turkey! I have read to many horror stories on here about cold turkey.

 

1 hour ago, powerback said:

Come on big deep in your soul

 

God's here for you. Pray it out.

 

SJ

 

 

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40 minutes ago, ShakeyJerr said:

 

No cold turkey! I have read to many horror stories on here about cold turkey.

 

 

God's here for you. Pray it out.

 

SJ

 

 

at risk at sounding self pitiful I'm afraid I'm living the horror stories I read SJ ,but I wont give up I deserve peace and serenity , I will hold on to that.

 I've promised myself ile keep traveling through hell and wait till I arrive at the peace of the forest  and green meadows .

 

take care of your own well being SJ ,from what I see on these threads you give a lot to others .

peace to your heart and family .

PB

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Skeeter - one of the staff members here, came across some important information concerning the Adrenal Cocktail that I use and have told other people here about. I have had success with the cocktail, but Skeeter points out some concerns for those who might have certain health issues.

 

As always, remember that I am not a doctor. When I share advice here, it is based on what I find during my own personal research and that has worked for me personally. Anyone with health issues/concerns should consult their own doctor, and of course do their own research. 

 

Here is what Skeeter wrote:
 

If you do not mind, I would like to share what I found on cream of tartar, (aka potassium bitartrate, or potassium hydrogen tartarate).  For healthy members, this is not an issue, but on this site, we do not ask for all health issues, just s/sx due to withdrawal. This info provided is aimed at our members with other health issues.

 

The link is directly below the information from each site noted just below. Please read each site, I have noted the most important information just above the link, but there is more info on each site.


Health concern #1 is minor, Health concern #2 is the bigger worry on the following link:

Link: http://www.fooducate.com/app#!page=post&id=57A335CB-563C-D7F1-4F76-949BDBB9BD7D

  

High Potassium from The Journal of Toxicology

Cream of tartar is composed of potassium bitartrate, a byproduct of wine production. Because of its high potassium content, taking large amounts as a natural remedy may result in higher-than-normal potassium levels. Your body works to keep electrolytes like potassium in balance, and any disruption has a negative impact.

Potassium plays a role in regulating your heartbeat, so high levels can cause your heart to beat too fast or even stop. Taking cream of tartar may not be safe for people with kidney problems who typically require a potassium-restricted diet.

 https://www.livestrong.com/article/174494-cream-of-tartar-natural-remedies/

 

Who should not consume Potassium Bitartrate/Cream of Tartar/Potassium Hydrogen Tartarate?   

People suffering from Addison’s disease, diabetes, acute renal failure or those undergoing treatments that
prevent the excretion of potassium from the body through urine should not use it. 

Also, consumption of large amounts of cream of tartar may cause nausea, diarrhea, and inflammation of the digestive system.
Lastly, 
it is not advisable to consume it without consulting a healthcare specialist.                                                                           

Link:http://www.yourhealthremedy.com/harmful-compounds/potassium-hydrogen-tartrate-uses-and-side-effects/ 

 

May I suggest a warning worded something like this;
If you are healthy, cream of tartar (aka potassium tartarate) at 1 tsp/day total = 500mg (1/2 tsp 2x/day) with OJ should provide no harm at all. Daily amount needed 3400mg.
Those suffering from Addison’s disease, diabetes, acute renal failure, are on dialysis, or for those undergoing treatments that prevent the excretion of potassium from the body through urine should not use cream of tartar.  If you suffer from any cardiac, kidney, or electrolyte issues, or suffer from severe low blood pressure, or multiple health conditions you are medicated for, you should consult with your doctor/HCP before adding extra potassium bitartrate to your daily diet. When speaking to your HCP, please give both names: cream of tartar, & potassium bitartrate.

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On 7/18/2017 at 8:01 AM, ShakeyJerr said:

Okay - I am still VERY sensitive to bad eating. I ate pizza and cake on Saturday and had some anxiety on Sunday morning. And I ate some garlic bread (bleached white flour and additives) and some ice cream (with chocolate syrup!) last night and woke up today with some anxiety.

 

And I also had some pain right where my adrenal glands are!

 

My adrenals are obviously just not ready to handle the sugar and bad carbs.

 

I didn't even really enjoy the ice cream - and the pizza was horrible! I ate both out of weakness and a sense of pride ("I'm so tired of not being able to eat x,y, and z because of those stupid meds!!!").

 

So I need to stray strong, humble myself, and do what is right for my body!

 

SJ

 

 

Oh i Hear you on the food, I ate a pc of cake yesterday in spite of all the trouble this has caused me in the past. not smart. :/

 

where are the adrenal glands? I didn't know you could have pain there...?

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1 hour ago, Happy2Heal said:

where are the adrenal glands? I didn't know you could have pain there...?

 

The adrenals are in your back, just above the kidneys. Adrenal fatigue can cause pain in your back, and that pain can sometimes also radiate and/or present in the hips and knees.

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On 7/18/2017 at 7:09 AM, ShakeyJerr said:

Barry McDonagh's "DARE: The New Way to End Anxiety and Stop Panic Attacks Fast." He admits he is building on Weekes' work. I read the first couple of chapters on Amazon's "look inside" - it reads smoothly and looks to be rather helpful. I will probably get myself a copy in the future.

 

This is a great book, read it a couple of times since this all started in January. May need to give it another read now that I have an idea of what the heck has happened to me and I know I just need to "float" through the symptoms of it. 

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