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#1 catnapt

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 07:43 AM

what we eat can have a huge impact on how we feel and how healthy we are in general.
A lot of ppl don't want to hear this; they want to keep eating the foods they know are not good for them, and kind of expect that magically, they will be healthy in spite of eating unhealthy foods.

 

 

but sometimes you can get "lucky" and counteract a less healthy food choice with something else

 

check this out:
https://nutritionfac..._eid=18558a9b97

 

"Within hours of eating an unhealthy meal, we can get a spike in inflammation, crippling our artery function, thickening our blood, and causing a fight-or-flight nerve response. But there are foods we can eat at every meal to counter this reaction."

 

(emphasis mine)

 

What we put in our bodies has a huge affect on how we feel. We all know that already, as far as chemicals/drugs go, or we wouldn't be here:/

 

the same is true for the other things we put in our bodies, the foods and beverages we eat/drink.

 

 

It causes me a lot of pain as well as frustration when I see loved ones feeling poorly and I am SURE that if they just made a few simple changes to their diets, they would feel a LOT better.

 

but, you can't tell people what to do, of course.

I just hope that people, esp those close to me, my family and friends, will educate themselves and maybe try to make a few changes so that they'll live longer and be healthier.

So many ppl eat the Standard American Diet and get the Standard America Diseases, and that's beyond SAD, it's tragic and it's preventable

 

 

and that's the end of my rant, stepping off my soap box now

LOL


and in case you're wondering, I am the poster child for a poor diet, I nearly lived on sugar and fat for most of my life.
I've changed my diet radically in the past few years, and the better my diet gets, the better I feel.

 

I now realize that not only was a large part of my life spent being over medicated, it was also spent being far less healthy than I could have been, IF I'd just taken more responsibility for what I put into my mouth.

 

 


1974-2002 many psych meds, all types; longest used drugs include lithium, seroquel, SSRI's zoloft & celexa; many CT's off drugs

2002-2015 on varying doses of lexapro, as  high as 40 mgs, but usually 20mgs

June 2015: tapered too fast to 2.5mgs, then to 2.5mgs every other day Dec 2015:  found SA forum; holding at 2.5mgs 

Early May 2016: jumped off at 2.5mgs, not smart- crashed in late Sept.

Oct 26 2016  reinstated liquid lexapro 0.05ml/day at night, dose +/- til settling on 0.15BID (0.3/day)= windows and waves

Jan 8, 2017 too quick switch to single dose in the morning, 0.3mgs (bad mistake, led to a crash)

Jan 12 added low dose zyprexa for SI, took infrequently as rescue med, last dose Feb.15

Jan 26 lexapro 0.27mg Feb 25 lexapro updose back to 0.3mg due to unrelenting severe insomnia

March 1 insomnia worse, back down to 0.29 for one day, then 0.27, then 0.25- improving!! March 17 0.24  April 7 0.21

March 7 added low dose lamictal, adjusting dose based on response (currently ~18mgs)

Supplements: Magnesium taurate 250mg, chromium, pro-biotic, biotin, glycine 2grams PM, 1 gram AM 


#2 powerback

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 08:45 AM

what we eat can have a huge impact on how we feel and how healthy we are in general.
A lot of ppl don't want to hear this; they want to keep eating the foods they know are not good for them, and kind of expect that magically, they will be healthy in spite of eating unhealthy foods.

 

 

but sometimes you can get "lucky" and counteract a less healthy food choice with something else

 

check this out:
https://nutritionfac..._eid=18558a9b97

 

"Within hours of eating an unhealthy meal, we can get a spike in inflammation, crippling our artery function, thickening our blood, and causing a fight-or-flight nerve response. But there are foods we can eat at every meal to counter this reaction."

 

(emphasis mine)

 

What we put in our bodies has a huge affect on how we feel. We all know that already, as far as chemicals/drugs go, or we wouldn't be here:/

 

the same is true for the other things we put in our bodies, the foods and beverages we eat/drink.

 

 

It causes me a lot of pain as well as frustration when I see loved ones feeling poorly and I am SURE that if they just made a few simple changes to their diets, they would feel a LOT better.

 

but, you can't tell people what to do, of course.

I just hope that people, esp those close to me, my family and friends, will educate themselves and maybe try to make a few changes so that they'll live longer and be healthier.

So many ppl eat the Standard American Diet and get the Standard America Diseases, and that's beyond SAD, it's tragic and it's preventable

 

 

and that's the end of my rant, stepping off my soap box now

LOL


and in case you're wondering, I am the poster child for a poor diet, I nearly lived on sugar and fat for most of my life.
I've changed my diet radically in the past few years, and the better my diet gets, the better I feel.

 

I now realize that not only was a large part of my life spent being over medicated, it was also spent being far less healthy than I could have been, IF I'd just taken more responsibility for what I put into my mouth.

 

Totally agree catnap. I generally eat well but chocolate bars  and crisps have crept back in ,time to be much more strict with myself


21​/06/2012 citrol10mg for stress, constant urination ,diazepam 2mg 26/07/2012 .12/07/2012 citroll 20mg,

​24/09/2013 Lexapro 20mg.didnt take them for a week during this year felt extremely strange ,had no idea down to drugs at the time .

​20/10/2014 venlafaxine xl 75mg.09/01/2015 venlafaxine xl 37.5. questioned doctor about drop in dose ,I was told no problem.

​13/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 150mg NEVER TOOK THEM getting wise?.20/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 75mg.19/08/2015 Xanax 250mcg [agitated]

​10/06/2015 venlafaxine 37.5mg.02/03/2016 five beads out for taper only lasted till 06/06/2016 extreme irritability and anxiety. 

​11/11/2016 Xanax 250mcg took them for few days ,fairly distressing time [working nearly impossible].11/11/2016 I was given a prescription for  Zyprexa 2.5mg AND DECIDED  NOT TO GET IT FROM CHEMIST.[my doctor gave them a great sales pitch ,talking about other patients that have benefited ,in witch it just annoyed me ]


#3 ShakeyJerr

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 09:12 AM

I have developed an unhealthy / odd habit of suddenly craving sweets before bed on nights where my symptoms have seemingly abated (I am in an odd pattern where I can be in a bad anxiety wave all day, and then feel normal around 8pm in the evening). I feel good, want to treat myself (especially after eating well all day!), grab some cake or a donut or ice cream - and BOOM! - immediately feel guilty. And then the next morning, I have my anxiety wave, usually worse than the day before.

 

My own worst enemy...

 

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Dates are tentative (my memory is shot)...

Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003 (I don't remember the dosages). Went off but developed symptoms so put back on after 4 months.

Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) some time in 2010 (I think). Did a self-taper during 2016 after losing insurance. Been off since around the beginning of 2017.

Developed Discontinuation Syndrome beginning with uncontrolled/unexplained crying in 02/17.

Moved on to full-blow symptoms from there. Been really bad since late 03/17.


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Posted 19 April 2017 - 09:47 AM

I wonder is it something to do with impulse control ,if that gets totally worn away from withdrawl stress.

i was thinking im great 2 years off alcohol ,but lately i have no thought process and control and junk just shoveled down my throat .

Time to get back on the wagon and think more clearly .


21​/06/2012 citrol10mg for stress, constant urination ,diazepam 2mg 26/07/2012 .12/07/2012 citroll 20mg,

​24/09/2013 Lexapro 20mg.didnt take them for a week during this year felt extremely strange ,had no idea down to drugs at the time .

​20/10/2014 venlafaxine xl 75mg.09/01/2015 venlafaxine xl 37.5. questioned doctor about drop in dose ,I was told no problem.

​13/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 150mg NEVER TOOK THEM getting wise?.20/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 75mg.19/08/2015 Xanax 250mcg [agitated]

​10/06/2015 venlafaxine 37.5mg.02/03/2016 five beads out for taper only lasted till 06/06/2016 extreme irritability and anxiety. 

​11/11/2016 Xanax 250mcg took them for few days ,fairly distressing time [working nearly impossible].11/11/2016 I was given a prescription for  Zyprexa 2.5mg AND DECIDED  NOT TO GET IT FROM CHEMIST.[my doctor gave them a great sales pitch ,talking about other patients that have benefited ,in witch it just annoyed me ]


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 03:53 AM

powerback,  I think it's ok to have a treat once in awhile. Even on the strict diet I follow, I"m allowed 10% of less healthy foods daily, if I want.

Oh yeh, impulse control- I sometimes have more now than I did when I was overmedicated, and sometimes I have less. And I can't figure out why that is. hmmm.....

 

 

ShakeyJerr  oh yes I hear you, going thru WD we really NEED to treat ourselves once in a while. But sometimes that means eating a salad that will make us feel even better, rather than the sweets that we USED to think would make us feel better. If you pay close attention to how different foods make you feel after you eat them, you'll start to want to AVOID the stuff that makes you feel bad.

For me it's kind of a habit, I'm feeling better, and I go back to the old habit of picking up a candy bar at the drug store, only to feel worse after eating it.
Writing this now, I realize I need to plan ahead for these times (the drug store puts candy bars on sale for so cheap, it's hard to resist) I need to bring a little zip lock baggie of nuts or a granola bar etc with me when I"m out, so if I'm faced with temptation, I'll have something to fall back on.

 

See now, your post helped me figure that out, thanks!


1974-2002 many psych meds, all types; longest used drugs include lithium, seroquel, SSRI's zoloft & celexa; many CT's off drugs

2002-2015 on varying doses of lexapro, as  high as 40 mgs, but usually 20mgs

June 2015: tapered too fast to 2.5mgs, then to 2.5mgs every other day Dec 2015:  found SA forum; holding at 2.5mgs 

Early May 2016: jumped off at 2.5mgs, not smart- crashed in late Sept.

Oct 26 2016  reinstated liquid lexapro 0.05ml/day at night, dose +/- til settling on 0.15BID (0.3/day)= windows and waves

Jan 8, 2017 too quick switch to single dose in the morning, 0.3mgs (bad mistake, led to a crash)

Jan 12 added low dose zyprexa for SI, took infrequently as rescue med, last dose Feb.15

Jan 26 lexapro 0.27mg Feb 25 lexapro updose back to 0.3mg due to unrelenting severe insomnia

March 1 insomnia worse, back down to 0.29 for one day, then 0.27, then 0.25- improving!! March 17 0.24  April 7 0.21

March 7 added low dose lamictal, adjusting dose based on response (currently ~18mgs)

Supplements: Magnesium taurate 250mg, chromium, pro-biotic, biotin, glycine 2grams PM, 1 gram AM 


#6 ShakeyJerr

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 04:02 AM

Glad I helped, Catnip!

 

I try to keep the unhealthy food out of the house, but my wife and daughter like to indulge, and when I'm feeling good, my impulse control slips. Ironic, when you think about it. Usually impulse control falters when we feel bad. But hey, this is Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome, where nothing makes sense!

 

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Dates are tentative (my memory is shot)...

Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003 (I don't remember the dosages). Went off but developed symptoms so put back on after 4 months.

Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) some time in 2010 (I think). Did a self-taper during 2016 after losing insurance. Been off since around the beginning of 2017.

Developed Discontinuation Syndrome beginning with uncontrolled/unexplained crying in 02/17.

Moved on to full-blow symptoms from there. Been really bad since late 03/17.


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 04:13 AM

Haha I just noticed what i wrote in previous post ,(think more clearly).I'm making dark jokes and not even meaning too.
I am literally desparte to solve my symptoms ,the headaches are terrible and causing me serous distress,i am juicing for past few months cause i presume it would help , could it be that ,one wonders.
I am going away in a few weeks so hope to be in a better place , here's hoping.

21​/06/2012 citrol10mg for stress, constant urination ,diazepam 2mg 26/07/2012 .12/07/2012 citroll 20mg,

​24/09/2013 Lexapro 20mg.didnt take them for a week during this year felt extremely strange ,had no idea down to drugs at the time .

​20/10/2014 venlafaxine xl 75mg.09/01/2015 venlafaxine xl 37.5. questioned doctor about drop in dose ,I was told no problem.

​13/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 150mg NEVER TOOK THEM getting wise?.20/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 75mg.19/08/2015 Xanax 250mcg [agitated]

​10/06/2015 venlafaxine 37.5mg.02/03/2016 five beads out for taper only lasted till 06/06/2016 extreme irritability and anxiety. 

​11/11/2016 Xanax 250mcg took them for few days ,fairly distressing time [working nearly impossible].11/11/2016 I was given a prescription for  Zyprexa 2.5mg AND DECIDED  NOT TO GET IT FROM CHEMIST.[my doctor gave them a great sales pitch ,talking about other patients that have benefited ,in witch it just annoyed me ]


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 04:19 AM

Glad I helped, Catnip!
 
I try to keep the unhealthy food out of the house, but my wife and daughter like to indulge, and when I'm feeling good, my impulse control slips. Ironic, when you think about it. Usually impulse control falters when we feel bad. But hey, this is Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome, where nothing makes sense!
 
SJ


I totally agree ,just shows u how the world is far off understanding our condition.
People wouldn't keep alcohol in the house if someone​ was keeping away from it ha.
My partner is amazingly healthy,but the mother in-law has junk in the house so it's very hard to stay away from it .
My paranoia makes me wonder does she do it on purpose haha

21​/06/2012 citrol10mg for stress, constant urination ,diazepam 2mg 26/07/2012 .12/07/2012 citroll 20mg,

​24/09/2013 Lexapro 20mg.didnt take them for a week during this year felt extremely strange ,had no idea down to drugs at the time .

​20/10/2014 venlafaxine xl 75mg.09/01/2015 venlafaxine xl 37.5. questioned doctor about drop in dose ,I was told no problem.

​13/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 150mg NEVER TOOK THEM getting wise?.20/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 75mg.19/08/2015 Xanax 250mcg [agitated]

​10/06/2015 venlafaxine 37.5mg.02/03/2016 five beads out for taper only lasted till 06/06/2016 extreme irritability and anxiety. 

​11/11/2016 Xanax 250mcg took them for few days ,fairly distressing time [working nearly impossible].11/11/2016 I was given a prescription for  Zyprexa 2.5mg AND DECIDED  NOT TO GET IT FROM CHEMIST.[my doctor gave them a great sales pitch ,talking about other patients that have benefited ,in witch it just annoyed me ]


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 04:22 AM

Let go of the paranoia!

 

I know in my case, my wife/daughter keep it in the house because it is something they like, and because they deny themselves so many other things on my account (both when the meds were making me a mean grinch, and now that they have to deal with my withdrawal).

 

And besides, learning a bit of impulse control will help our brains build up strength!

 

SJ


Dates are tentative (my memory is shot)...

Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003 (I don't remember the dosages). Went off but developed symptoms so put back on after 4 months.

Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) some time in 2010 (I think). Did a self-taper during 2016 after losing insurance. Been off since around the beginning of 2017.

Developed Discontinuation Syndrome beginning with uncontrolled/unexplained crying in 02/17.

Moved on to full-blow symptoms from there. Been really bad since late 03/17.


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 05:33 AM

Yep i agree,i am working on a lot of things like watching out for the paranoia ,i think my ego is very hard to control the last few months , because of my near breakdown before Christmas I'm not working like i used too ,so i have to correct myself often and realise i need to heal,

I practice mindfulness and it is brilliant at helping me cope.
Dealing with a situation were i am not were i want to be in life and were i want to get too takes a lot of patience.

21​/06/2012 citrol10mg for stress, constant urination ,diazepam 2mg 26/07/2012 .12/07/2012 citroll 20mg,

​24/09/2013 Lexapro 20mg.didnt take them for a week during this year felt extremely strange ,had no idea down to drugs at the time .

​20/10/2014 venlafaxine xl 75mg.09/01/2015 venlafaxine xl 37.5. questioned doctor about drop in dose ,I was told no problem.

​13/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 150mg NEVER TOOK THEM getting wise?.20/04/2015 venlafaxine xl 75mg.19/08/2015 Xanax 250mcg [agitated]

​10/06/2015 venlafaxine 37.5mg.02/03/2016 five beads out for taper only lasted till 06/06/2016 extreme irritability and anxiety. 

​11/11/2016 Xanax 250mcg took them for few days ,fairly distressing time [working nearly impossible].11/11/2016 I was given a prescription for  Zyprexa 2.5mg AND DECIDED  NOT TO GET IT FROM CHEMIST.[my doctor gave them a great sales pitch ,talking about other patients that have benefited ,in witch it just annoyed me ]


#11 ShakeyJerr

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 08:48 AM

Okay - this is strange. I usually do not have any sort of appetite until dinner time. Usually I just graze during the day to at least keep my strength up.

 

But I was actually hungry for lunch! Treated myself to a grilled chicken quesadilla (on wheat) and just gobbled it down!

 

Lets hope this is the start of something good.

 

SJ


Dates are tentative (my memory is shot)...

Prozac & Lithium from 1999 to 2003 (I don't remember the dosages). Went off but developed symptoms so put back on after 4 months.

Switched to Effexor (75mg 3/day) and Seroquel (50mg 3/day) some time in 2010 (I think). Did a self-taper during 2016 after losing insurance. Been off since around the beginning of 2017.

Developed Discontinuation Syndrome beginning with uncontrolled/unexplained crying in 02/17.

Moved on to full-blow symptoms from there. Been really bad since late 03/17.