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Pug, I have another question, I rarely hear of females bringing up the sexual struggle but I need to.  I have a husband and this whole ordeal is affecting him also.  Sexual dysfunction is obvious for a man.   For me, I absolutely have no libido and not only this, I cannot climax since I have been in acute and protracted WD.  So, obviously I am concerned for all of this too.  My question for you is , how long did it take you for your sexual ability to return?  I am sure it is very individual but I would still find it helpful to know a time  frame.  When in WD it seems like it is all we can do to get through a day let alone be too concerned or concerned at all for sex. Thanks Pug.  

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On 5/29/2017 at 2:50 PM, triplem15 said:

Pug, I am also wondering what kind of exercise you do and how did you know when and how much would be OK???

 

Hello triplem15,

 

I mainly did walking and if possible light jogging.  I didn't really have a gauge on when and how much.  I knew that any exercise would be good for me and I knew that I felt so terrible that it could not make me feel any worse!  So I started with trying to walk and increase the distance if possible or light jogging if I felt up to it.  Sometimes I would feel worse after finishing and I would not do it again for a few days, but mostly I just did my best to do it each day whether I wanted to or not.  There were times I was too sick to do more than walk from the car to the house, but as soon as I could I would start walking again.  I remember having strong heart palpitations one day and thinking, "This is about the speed my heart would beat if I was out jogging", so I decided to try jogging!  I felt like if I was going to have a heart attack I would rather have it outside trying to jog than sitting on the couch, so I gave it a try for a few minutes.   It was just trial and error and doing what I could. When I was feeling so miserable and terrible I felt like I had nothing to loose and that maybe I would feel better if I tried to exercise, if I possibly could.  Everyone is different and each person must decide for themselves what is good and possible for them, but I think any physical activity regardless of how small is of benefit to our health and recovery.  That is the attitude I used and it has helped me get in the best shape I have been in since high school as I have recovered these last few years.

 

These days I can go jogging for 3 to 4 miles several times a week; go hiking in the outdoors for a few hours, or do strenuous yard work with no ill effects.  We heal and things improve; it is worth the struggle and challenges that we are enduring.

 

Wishing you the best.

 

pug

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On 5/29/2017 at 2:59 PM, triplem15 said:

Another question Pug, so I guess this is three, how did you know you were turning a corner??? What was happening to you and in what ways??? Thank you.

 

Hello triplem15,

 

It was and still is a very gradual process for me.  There were many, many small corners that I turned; feeling a bit better for an hour or two; having a symptom go away for a day; feeling a ray of hope during a dark time; sleeping a few hours at night without waking up; suddenly wanting to do things again like read a book or listen to music; it all happened in tiny increments. I guess the "big" corner that I recently turned was that I I just don't care anymore how much longer it takes to be fully recovered or how much more I suffer or feel poorly; I know that it will happen.  I have confidence in my full recovery that will eventually occur and that I am at a point that daily living is possible even with the challenges I still have.  So when you see any improvement, no matter how small, hang on to it with all your strength and know that even if it goes away for a while, it will return and eventually stick for good.

 

Hoping that you can turn a corner very soon, no matter how small.

 

pug

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On 5/30/2017 at 0:35 AM, Distraut said:

Pug, what a wonderful post.  Thank you so much for telling us about this.

 

I so hope my 28 year old son, Akrontes, who is 13 months into cold turkey from Zoloft and suffering terribly from OCD and connected mental torment and thinks he will never recover, will gain some hope from your story which I have printed out for him. 

 

How did your mental torment resolve itself?  Was it gradual or did it lift quite suddenly and how long did it take before you got some relief?

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Hello Distraut,

 

I hope that Akrontes is doing better.  Please let him know that at month 13 I was in very bad shape and feeling that there was no hope, but I hung on and it got better!  He will get better!

 

The mental torment resolved very, very slowly; so slow it seemed as if it was not happening at all.  One day I would think to myself, "I think I might feel a little better; I don't think the (insert symptom here) is quite as bad today".  Was it better?  I don't know, but I felt like it was and I hung onto that feeling that I was improving with all my strength; even when the next day I felt miserable.  I just keep telling myself that tomorrow it would be better, day after day until one day it was.  I don't know any other way for it to happen other than hanging on with the hope that it will improve.  I felt hopeless and that there was no way I would make it, but I read success stories every day that said otherwise and I hung onto them with all my might; and the people that wrote those stories were right, it does get better!  Please tell Akrontes that there is hope and to do whatever it takes to make it through one more day and that a break in symptoms will happen for him, just as it did for me.  Have him read success stories or anything that is encouraging to him, or pass the time in any way that gets him to the next day, because that may be the day that the break will happen, and it will happen!

 

My best wishes to you both!

 

pug

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Bless you Pug! 

 

I have passed my message on to my son but he cannot believe that he will EVER be well again.  I do so hope that one day soon he will post himself and tell you that he has recovered.

 

In the meantime, we hang on in there.

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Pug, May God bless you!!!  Thank you for coming back and giving us words of encouragement. They are so timely.  It is so wonderful for us to hear you and others say, we will heal. !!!

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Hey pug, 

 

Did you ever get your cortisol levels tested? Because I got mine tested and my levels are VERY low. I probably have adrenal fatigue. Did you have this checked too? 

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hi Pug,

Thanks for sharing your story

I like to ask you if your brain fog improved? If so how did that happen? was it gradual? Is it all gone for good now or more like the waves and windows pattern?

How about memory and cognition? Are they 100 percent healed now?

And what about tinnitus? is it improved for you?

thank you

take care

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Pug ....... I just saw this ........ it is incredibly well written and describes the horror of it all perfectly. Thank you for posting such an inspiring story and wishing you all the best ........

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Hello pug, congratulations on healing from widthrawal. I could relate to almost all the symptoms that you listed so horrific, glad it's behind you. Thanks for coming back to write your success story, good luck in the next chapter in your life.

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On 6/13/2017 at 4:45 PM, triplem15 said:

Pug, I have another question, I rarely hear of females bringing up the sexual struggle but I need to.  I have a husband and this whole ordeal is affecting him also.  Sexual dysfunction is obvious for a man.   For me, I absolutely have no libido and not only this, I cannot climax since I have been in acute and porotracted WD.  So, obviously I am concerned for all of this too.  My question for you is , how long did it take you for your sexual ability to return?  I am sure it is very individual but I would still find it helpful to know a time  frame.  When in WD it seems like it is all we can do to get through a day let alone be too concerned or concerned at all for sex. Thanks Pug.  

 

Hello tiplem15,

 

I am sorry I missed you post, but I wanted to respond.  Sexually things improved gradually just like all the other symptoms I have had.  It is still a work in progress and I am continuing to feel confident that it will improve as I heal, but it is better than it was and that is what I keep in my mind on those days when things seem to not be working as well as I would like them to. It is difficult to put a time frame on when things began to improve, but the important message is that things have improved and given time I think you will start to improve also.  This process is so strange and unpredictable that one persons experience is no indicator of how another person will heal.  But sexual difficulties is a very common symptom from person to person, as is the healing and improving of sexual desire and response.  I am sorry this answer is not much help for you; I can only tell you that for me as time has gone on my sexual dysfunction has improved and I see no reason why it won't be continue to improve.  Other success stories mention the improving of our sexuality with time and healing and I have had improvements, so if it is possible for myself and others, it is possible for you.  It just takes time, so keep going!

 

Wishing you the best.

 

Pug

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On 6/18/2017 at 9:47 PM, anongrl5590 said:

Hey pug, 

 

Did you ever get your cortisol levels tested? Because I got mine tested and my levels are VERY low. I probably have adrenal fatigue. Did you have this checked too? 

 

Hello anongrl5590,

 

I did have some blood work done and my levels were in the normal range although other readings were off including testosterone and some others that I can't remember.  I then had it tested a few months later and some of the readings had changed, some good and some bad.  After that I was convinced that going through withdrawal was affecting every part of my body including blood, hormones, and all the processes that could be seen on a blood test.  My doctor sent me to a specialist but I only went once because I knew what the reason was and I was not going to start testosterone therapy and the other things they wanted me to try.  The last thing I needed was to start taking any kind of drugs!  So I have just gutted it out and given it time and the healing has happened and is still happening.  All I have been doing is eating healthy, exercising and doing my best to keep a positive attitude.  Others may actually have medical conditions that need addressed and they should get help, but for me I didn't feel it was anything other than withdrawal and recovery creating all of the fluctuations and changes in my blood work; but that is my situation and yours may be different.  If in doubt, see your doctor but I also think it is wise to ask the moderators here as SA about these things as they are quite knowledgeable and good for a second opinion. 

 

I hope you are feeling better.

 

Pug

 

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On 7/7/2017 at 4:07 AM, Bobo32 said:

hi Pug,

Thanks for sharing your story

I like to ask you if your brain fog improved? If so how did that happen? was it gradual? Is it all gone for good now or more like the waves and windows pattern?

How about memory and cognition? Are they 100 percent healed now?

And what about tinnitus? is it improved for you?

thank you

take care

 

Hey there Bobo32,

 

The brain fog is nearly gone except when I have a challenging day, but it is much more mild and doesn't last more than a few hours.  It is a terrible symptom and I didn't seem to feel it improving much until maybe at 18-20 months, and then it would just be for a while and the fog would roll back in again.  Finally around 2 years things started to clear up and I was like, "Wow! I can think again and my brain works!".  As with everything else I have dealt with it was a very gradual process and I though it would never go away, but it has and I am ever so thankful.  Memory and cognition are greatly improved, not 100% yet, but so, so much better it feels like 125%!  It is very dependent on how I am feeling that day/hour/minute; if I am dealing with symptoms then memory and cognition are affected, but to a much lesser degree than before. Now I can work my way though any challenges and feel competent most of the time.  The tinnitus has also improved; dropping in volume some days and has even been gone for a whole day or 2! What a surreal and awesome thing not to have tinnitus for a day; it gives me great hope that it will go away eventually.  Like all my symptoms, it has gradually and almost imperceptibly gotten better although it felt like it never would.  Right now the high tension sizzling tinnitus is happening for me, but not as loudly as in the past and it is easier to ignore; and who knows, it may be gone for a day tomorrow, or the next day! 

 

I hope you are seeing improvements.

 

Pug

 

 

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Pug,

 

Thanks so much for sharing your inspiring story.  I can relate to a lot of the symptoms you listed.  I have also tried many, many different things that, had I not been on medication, may have made far more of a difference (yoga, meditation, cutting out gluten, sugar and other "nasties", so many different supplements) yet, like a rubber band, I always seem to "snap back" to baseline.  I wouldn't say it wasn't worth it, in fact the knowledge is invaluable and I would never have learned what I did without going through this.

 

I'm curious how you are doing.  Are you still seeing improvement?  My big question is what is the best course of action when you realize you are in a "wave"?  I haven't really found an answer to that, other than to get out of analytical mode--whether that's by taking a walk, focusing on breathing, listening to music, etc.  It sounds like all we can do is wait for time to do its work--frustrating!

 

Hoping you are continuing to do well and thanks again for sharing, every bit of encouragement helps.

 

 

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Hello Pug,

 

I'm glad about your story of recovery, what gives me a little hope. Thank you for sharing it. I'm off Effexor since 1 year now and m very sick. I can't leave the house or do things normal people do. I wanted to ask yo, if you also had the problem with very weak muscles in legs and arms with electrical power feeling and tingleing, headpressure and vision issues, like i can't focus on things. I didn't have any wave yet. the symptoms got worse with every month. I can think, but listening to someone or speaking for longer is a problem for me. Also i have a problem with imagining things. I can't old pictures in my head. The numbness of feelings i also expierience. One of my rabbits died. And i did love her. But i couldn't cry or be really sad. 

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