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Changed the name of the forum to Symptoms and self-care. This seems to better reflect the content and intent.

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What do you think of gathering info on Thyroid Testing in one area? There is a great deal of discrepancy especially different reference ranges for TSH, the value most often used for initial screening. It would be good to have one thread to reference up to date info. Most endocrinologists want TSH To be around 1-3 but Reference Ranges still show normal up to 5-6, very HYPOthyroid.

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Much of it is collected here: Thyroid symptoms in the Symptoms and Self-care forum.

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I just tried to search for SAM-E and sam-e and came up with nothing. Are there some tips that would make searching easier. Sometimes I get really helpful results, in other cases, nada and am at a loss as to what I'm doing wrong.

 

Schuyler

 

One link below. For some reason, does not come up when I search "SAM-e". There have been a few occasions when I got notice that there were not enough characters in search term (3 minimum, I believe) although I didnt get thst error message with this.

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/606-important-topics-about-tests-supplements-herbs-treatments/page__pid__21158#entry21158

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I just tried to search for SAM-E and sam-e and came up with nothing. Are there some tips that would make searching easier. Sometimes I get really helpful results, in other cases, nada and am at a loss as to what I'm doing wrong.

 

Schuyler,

 

Here's one.

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/606-important-topics-about-tests-supplements-herbs-treatments/page__pid__21158#entry21158

 

That is exactly what I did, and came up with ZERO. Grrrr Thanks for checking though.

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I just tried to search for SAM-E and sam-e and came up with nothing. Are there some tips that would make searching easier. Sometimes I get really helpful results, in other cases, nada and am at a loss as to what I'm doing wrong.

 

Here's one.

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/606-important-topics-about-tests-supplements-herbs-treatments/page__pid__21158#entry21158

 

That is exactly what I did, and came up with ZERO. Grrrr Thanks for checking though.

 

Schuyler,

 

Edited above post.

 

I found this by going into Symptoms area, NOT by using search tool. Sorry for the confusion!

 

Just as test, I searched on "5-HTP" and came up with nothing.

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I found this by going into Symptoms area, NOT by using search tool. Sorry for the confusion!

 

Thanks Barb. I'm a terrible scanner, visually speaking. So of course when I went thru the symptoms threads, I missed this.. as per usual. What I'm looking for is a way to find this information with the search tool as opposed to manually 'hunting and pecking'. Is this just a limitation of the site?, and if so, how to know when it's a limitation as opposed to when there is actually no information. Hmmm, but I would have found something by switching to Google. Will try this.. SAM-E and survivingantidepressants.

 

Thanks for your time!

 

Edit.. sure enough. I got hits when using Google to search the site.. Hmmmm

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Unfortunately, the search system does not recognize 3-letter words or acronyms. This is a common flaw in search systems bundled with forum software. I can't fix it.

 

You'd be able to find SAM-e or 5-HTP by looking for their compound names: S-Adenosyl methionine or 5-hydroxytryptophan.

 

I try to provide synonyms so these kinds of things can be found in site search.

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Could we have a good news forum. We have a recovery forum but that's for people who are off completely and symptom free. I'm thinking of one where people are seeing positive change in themselves

 

People post good news in their intros but this might get missed. I would envisage people posting good news in their intro and the good news forum I think a good news gives some hope and people often say they like reading them.

 

Others thoughts?

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i think that's a great idea dalsaan -

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Excellent ideas, Dalsaan. "The Good News Channel". :).

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I do like that idea. Thank you, dalsaan.

 

Problem is, people will get confused about where to post their progress. The Intro topics are important not only to provide support for their authors but to track progress over time. Doctors need this information to understand how to recognize and treat withdrawal symptoms.

 

The forum medium has its drawbacks, information getting scattered easily is one of them.

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fair enough, those are both very important functions of the intro topics and I can see the risks that it will go all over the shop

 

Dalsaan

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Hi Altostrata ,

 

I've been noticing something with new people lately.    Some join , write an introduction , and don't return to see the responses.    I've emailed a few advising

that they have responses , and how to "Follow the Topic" to receive email notifications.   And they come back.

 

I'm wondering if it's possible to make that happen automatically , so anyone who starts a topic receives emails whenever someone posts on it.

If they don't want to get emails , people can still "Unfollow" by clicking the button.

 

Best wishes ,    Fresh

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That's a great idea, Fresh.

 

The software does not permit an automatic "follow" of anything. I would have to hire someone to modify it.

 

I will see if there are any additional tools I can apply to Introduction topics.

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Do you think it would be useful to have individual threads for each drug? Something like the "check-in if your from..." threads. So there would be a "check-in here if you're tappering Prozac/Sarafam/Fluoxetine" thread, and on like that. I've searched for people tapering prozac, and people have contacted me in a PM because they are tapering prozac and saw I was as well.

 

Just a thought.

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We have found that what the drugs have in common is more extensive and important than distinctions between them. For example, all the antidepressants have similar withdrawal symptoms (in common with benzos, too).

 

So it makes sense to have threads about the symptoms regardless of the drugs involved, which you will find in the Symptoms and Self-Care forum.

 

The differences between the drugs that are important for tapering are described in the drug-specific topics in the Tapering forum.

 

When an individual add posts to these Tapering topics, the conversation tends to become very specifically about the individual's own tapering situation, taking the conversation off-topic and making it difficult to read for those wanting more general tapering information. Also, mod responses duplicate efforts in the Introductions forum. (That is why we move such posts to the Introductions forum; also, the information becomes part of the individual's history, which is very important.)

 

People who are tapering the same drugs often find each other by searching for the drug name in the Introductions forum and posting in each others' topics. You can, of course, have group pm threads too, if you wish.

 

There are many combinations of these drugs, and many people are on more than one. Topics for each permutation would spawn a lot of topics.

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Ive been thinking about how many people could benefit from the wealth of knowledge on this website. Mainly Im talking about fellow WD sufferers who can't find this site. Ill give an example when I google Lexapro withdrawal the first site that comes up

 

ishttp://mentalhealthdaily.com/2014/05/07/lexapro-withdrawal-symptoms-how-long-do-they-last/

 

This website has over 400 responses and many are asking the same questions that we all got answered. Ive tried to make posts recommending this site but its not allowed and my comments do not get published. Even my general responses dont get published. Mentalhealthdaily.com has a comment board for every single Antidepressant. Each has over 400 responses. I read somewhere on the site that these boards gets hundreds of comments daily and maybe one or two get published.

 

This is only one site and an example of how many people are not finding survivingantidepressants. This tells me that everyday at least 10-50 new people are searching the web for answers to their medication complications. How do we make this website more accessible and mainstream? Any ideas?

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I don't have any ideas, but I do think it would be wonderful if this site was coming up in google searches more often

I found it quite by accident when looking up side effects from a different med

oh no, wait, I found it when looking up lawsuits about  zyprexa!!!

my doc was refusing to Rx it as a PRN (which I am glad about NOW) and I could not understand her refusal, as she'd Rxed it several times in the same way in the past, so I thought, maybe there's a problem with it that I dont know about

 

the search for zyprexa lawsuit brought up a link here, the very first one I'd ever seen (or possibly, noticed...?)

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Wow That is pretty interesting, good thing you didn't get hooked on that aswell. I am curious to find out how others found this site. I actually don't remember but I found it 7 months after stopping AD. HAD I found it earlier I could have potentially helped myself by reinstating. At the very least I would have known what was happening.

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It would be nice if everyone knew what we knew, but they have to find the site, and to find it, they may have to search.

 

Quite a few people find it through Google. Most forums are public so many combinations of keywords will work.

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Hi everyone,

 

I agree.  When I was searching for antidepressant symptoms prior to reducing my dose I didn't find this site in Google.  As soon as I searched withdrawal symptoms it came up.  Unfortunately I had already been on a lower dose for 2 weeks.  Thankfully it was only 2 weeks.

 

Many people don't realise that they are suffering withdrawal symptoms so would not search for that particular term.

 

Meta tags can be used by webmasters to provide search engines with information about their sites.  Maybe this needs to be reviewed.  Maybe someone who is web savvy, or has a relative or friend who is, might be able to help with suggestions.

 

I recently created a post on Mentalhealthdaily.com suggesting this site and it hasn't been posted, which is very disappointing because as Mort said there are so many desperate people there who could be helped.  There was one post way back on November 7, 2014 by Kets (hi Kets if you are still around here) saying they had joined SA.

 

CC

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This site is loaded with meta tags.

 

It is true that people often do not know to search for "withdrawal symptoms." I've entered many alternative tags as well.

 

If you Google "antidepressant symptoms," you will not likely find this site because of the many, many pages describing antidepressant side effects. There is no way this site can be shown above them. It does not get the traffic of, for example, webmd.com.

 

I cannot compensate for people not knowing the right keywords to use in their search.

 

Because the server for this site is in the United States, if you are using Google outside the US, Google will display results for your country before displaying this site.

 

Chessie, what were you searching for?

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Hi everyone,

 

I agree.  When I was searching for antidepressant symptoms prior to reducing my dose I didn't find this site in Google.  As soon as I searched withdrawal symptoms it came up.  Unfortunately I had already been on a lower dose for 2 weeks.  Thankfully it was only 2 weeks.

 

Many people don't realise that they are suffering withdrawal symptoms so would not search for that particular term.

 

Meta tags can be used by webmasters to provide search engines with information about their sites.  Maybe this needs to be reviewed.  Maybe someone who is web savvy, or has a relative or friend who is, might be able to help with suggestions.

 

I recently created a post on Mentalhealthdaily.com suggesting this site and it hasn't been posted, which is very disappointing because as Mort said there are so many desperate people there who could be helped.  There was one post way back on November 7, 2014 by Kets (hi Kets if you are still around here) saying they had joined SA.

 

CC

ah this is what  I have heard, that there are ways to "optimize" your website to have it show up in the search engines closer to the "top"

 

I know that most of the forums I'm a member of have done this, I will see if I can find out how it's done. It *may* have something to do with advertising, though, because the forums/message boards that come to the top most reliably also have some advertisements connected to them or allowed on them.

*that* might be what makes the biggest difference, I don't. wouldn't surprise me, though.

 

 I wish I had this information years ago, so yes, it would be awesome if it was coming up on the first couple of pages of a search

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Hi Alto,

 

My first search would have been in Google for Pristiq side effects.  Two weeks later I would have been searching for side effects but I've just checked my History and realised that I didn't find SA via Google, it was listed in a website (http://beyondmeds.com/support-in-wd/) which I must have found when I discovered that there were support and FB groups.

 

As for meta tags, I did a quick search after I posted and discovered that search engines work on more than just meta tags (I started a web course back in 2002 so things have changed since then).  They mentioned about other websites linking to a site means it gets more hits.  Hopefully by putting our heads together we might be able work out how to get SA onto page 1 of google searches with blinking lights and a sign saying Stop Here First.

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If you want me to add specific phrases as meta keywords, please list them in this topic. But I cannot ever make SA appear on the top when someone is searching for "antidepressant symptoms." It is impossible. There are too many much larger sites offering information central to "antidepressant symptoms."

 

One factor Google uses to determine the order of results is number of unique visitors per day. Another is the number of referring sites, although I believe Google made a change in this to downgrade links from link farms.

 

Looking at the logs, I can see people are finding the site by searching for keyword combinations that include "withdrawal", "tapering", "weaning", and "stopping."

 

Example of successful searches leading to SA pages:

 

how can you slowly temper of seroquel

withdrawal symptoms of pristiq

use wellbutrin as bridge with effexor

how do you get off citalopram

brain zaps remedies

 

 

and many more.

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Maybe we just need to go back to the good old-fashioned word of mouth, which is what I am trying to do.  Technology might be here to stay but many tried and true methods still have their place and this may be a good example.

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OK I asked a friend who knows how to do this stuff and her response was: Usually when that happens is because the message board is not hosted on a software platform that Google recognizes or is able to search

 

 

but since it does at least come up sometimes, I would guess that's not the issue

 

I tried...

I have already referred two of my friends here and mentioned this to my doc (who of course laughed)

 

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i put a look on the first page of this forum, 

for what i know, the tag meta name keywords seem a bad idea today

before people filled this, some filling abuse of keywords, google is giving penalties actually or no more read it, many actual website no more fill it...

 

what this forum do not have(i do not find on first page index) is the key of webmaster tools

the register is free and google comes read his key and crawls

the files from this register is nice, you see bad pages, problems google have with your site, your best keywords(not the meta tags) and the links in and out, and here you see what to do to progress

i would delete the meta tag names keywords(today obsolete) and register the google webmaster tools on the first page index

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I have thought of this a from time to time too Stan as I too have been to the other sites that come up before SA ... effexor withdrawal symptoms was the search I just tried yet again SA comes up #35... like you i have been to the other sites making posts .(made it my passtime for awhile and non of my posts were posted... same as you.

I have been told that if each time you want to come to SA if you search the term same Effexor withdrawal and bypass the other 34 eventually Google will take note and move SA up for that topic... I did that for a time too... gave up. 

 

That is all I know.

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The public forums on SurvivingAntidepressants.org are fully searchable. Google's spiders, and others from other search engines, spend a lot of time on them every day.

 

Info about traffic http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/survivingantidepressants.org

 

Thanks for the Google Webmaster tools suggestion, stan. I know about it but need to find time to implement it.

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If you want me to add specific phrases as meta keywords, please list them in this topic. But I cannot ever make SA appear on the top when someone is searching for "antidepressant symptoms." It is impossible. There are too many much larger sites offering information central to "antidepressant symptoms."

 

One factor Google uses to determine the order of results is number of unique visitors per day. Another is the number of referring sites, although I believe Google made a change in this to downgrade links from link farms.

 

Looking at the logs, I can see people are finding the site by searching for keyword combinations that include "withdrawal", "tapering", "weaning", and "stopping."

 

Example of successful searches leading to SA pages:

 

how can you slowly temper of seroquel

withdrawal symptoms of pristiq

use wellbutrin as bridge with effexor

how do you get off citalopram

brain zaps remedies

 

 

and many more.

 

Off topic and forgive me but the ..........and many more at the end gave me a chuckle.  So thank you.  Feel free to delete this inane comment........no problem.

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What about having a forum for support groups? There are so many new people joining, and the intros move down super fast. I try to read new intros, but there is just sooo much to go through. It is a bit mind boggling to try and connect with anybody. Perhaps if there were support groups such as one for bad insomniacs, or long-term users such as me, or PP refugees, or users of certain drugs, it would help people connect and interact more. I understand that we all have a lot of the same problems with ADs, but there's got to be some way to help people find like-minded (or lost-minded :)) people more easily. Then newcomers could be steered towards a support group that might be helpful, or encouraged to begin a new one.

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What Sarabera has suggested seems like a good idea.  I totally missed tagging my initial post.  Definitely one for each drug type, and one for each major withdrawal issue, ladies wanting to get pregnant .  There most probably are many withdrawal issue topics already started.  However, members would still be best keeping their Intro topic updated.  CC

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I would love to more easily edit and add tags! It's a limitation of the software, I'm afraid.

 

For now, search within a forum will have to do for finding people who are taking the same drugs and have similar symptoms.

 

Generally, people with the same symptoms connect in topics in the Symptoms and Self-care forum  There's a topic and discussion on just about every symptom you can imagine.

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