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@Anya324

 

Thank you got your experience. I’m confused by all of this. I feel like I’m flailing out at sea and very scared. My dr prescribed trazodone for sleep and I might just go ahead and take that. 

October 2010 began Celexa 10mg (increasing over the years)

January 2022 started tapering from Celexa 25 mg halving the dose every 4 weeks.

March 2022 slowed taper to 25% every 4 weeks.

August 31, 2022 last dose of Celexa.

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Just now, TabbyCat82 said:

@Anya324

 

Thank you got your experience. I’m confused by all of this. I feel like I’m flailing out at sea and very scared. My dr prescribed trazodone for sleep and I might just go ahead and take that. 


trazodone is not safe at all! Stick with the melatonin over trazodone!!! There are other natural sleep remedies. Something that worked well enough for me when I was in the throes of withdrawal was Yoga Nidra. My daughter now take something from Hyland for calming/sleep. It has a lot of natural/herbal type ingredients. Can be risky for someone in wd to take bc you won’t know what you’re reacting to. 
 

you can take more melatonin and see if that helps. We are all different and our bodies need and tolerate different doses of so meds in a variety of ways. Just stick with natural things and stead clear of the pharmaceuticals. They’re killers. 

~Lexapro 5mg 2009;  ~increased to 10mg; 2013ish.  ~increased to 20mg; 2017
~January 2021 had an episode of Serotonin Syndrome (from one single 50mg dose of trazodone) reduced from 20mg to 10mg. 
~Mid April 2021- Followed doctors taper schedule to get off lex. Within 6ish weeks I went from 10mg to 5mg and then 5mg every other day and then every 3 days and then quit. 
~Early June 2021 stopped Lexapro 

~July 5th; reinstated 2.5 mg Lexapro 

~July 6th; started atenolol 12.5 2x day for heart palpitations (resting bpm 110). 
~July 19th; upped to 3.75

~Sept 12; Updose 5mg (want WD to go AWAY-no longer trying to get off Lexapro. Want my life back!)

Lansoprazole 2000-2021

~July 27th 2021 breaking capsules and removing 40 tiny beads 

~Sept 2021- worked up to removing 300 of the 500 beads

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1 hour ago, Anya324 said:
1 hour ago, TabbyCat82 said:

My dr prescribed trazodone for sleep and I might just go ahead and take that. 


trazodone is not safe at all!

@TabbyCat82 trazodone messed me up worse than any one of these drugs: I lost my damn mind trying to get some sleep and had the worst/scariest side effects from this one in particular. It brought on my first and only hallucination within 2 days of taking it, never had psychosis before, and after stopping trazodone it never happened again.

 

Also currently fighting real hard against another anti-psychotic that replaced it (prescribed off-label for sleep like trazodone was) and I wish I'd just found other ways to get to sleep at night instead of adding in these heavy meds that (it turns out) were making depression worse and exacerbating other physical health issues. 

 

Don't get me wrong, not sleeping is awful and makes everything worse, I just saw the name of that med being prescribed for sleep and alarm bells went off. I hope you find some relief soon! 

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Started on Prozac in early 2000s to treat cPTSD, been on various cocktails ever since.

2002-2004, 2017-2022: Buspar, tapered down to 0

2016-present: 100mg Seroquel for sleep -> May 2023: 90mg -> June 2023: 81mg -> September 2023: 72mg -> switched to brand name, much too strong, down to 60mg -> October 2023: 54mg -> November 2023: 50mg -> January 2024: 45mg -> April 2024: 40.5mg

2016-Present: 100mg Wellbutrin SR -> January 2023: 75mg IR (37.5mg 2x a day) -> February 2023 (33.75mg 2x a day) -> July 2023 (30.37mg 2x a day) -> August 2023: 27.33mg 2x a day 

2018-present: 25mg Pristiq

2015-present: 600mg Gabapentin (200mg 3x a day) -> December 2022: 300mg Gabapentin (100mg 3x a day) per GP's recommendation after side effects -> March 2023: 90mg 3x a day (switched to liquid suspension) -> April 2023: 81mg 3x a day -> September 2023: bad generic, switched back to homemade liquid; too strong after bad generic, down to 70mg 3x a day, still bad. Adjusted slowly till at 60mg 3x a day, much better. Long hold till -> December 2023: 54mg, still feels too high after November Seroquel switch from brand name to generic, doc recommended 50mg which feels better -> January 2024: When Wellbutrin went down, Gabapentin started putting me to sleep, went down to 45mg, then 41mg to stay awake, so far so good -> February 2024: 36mg, still too high, 34mg -> March 2024: 31mg, STILL too high, 30mg

Supplements: Multivitamin w/magnesium, probiotics, digestive enzymes, anti-viral nitric oxide nose spray as needed

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@littlebird thank you for your account of the Trazadone, I’ll back away from it. It’s been sitting at the pharmacy for a week waiting for pickup because I thought it sounded like a bad idea. I just went to acupuncture and feel some relief. She was sure she could help with the insomnia. Fingers crossed. 

October 2010 began Celexa 10mg (increasing over the years)

January 2022 started tapering from Celexa 25 mg halving the dose every 4 weeks.

March 2022 slowed taper to 25% every 4 weeks.

August 31, 2022 last dose of Celexa.

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5 minutes ago, TabbyCat82 said:

I just went to acupuncture and feel some relief. She was sure she could help with the insomnia. Fingers crossed. 

I got a lot of relief from acupuncture! I also really got a lot of benefit whenever they gave me an herbal formula. Might be worth asking if they do ear seeds: it's a tiny sticker with a mustard seed (if memory serves) that is placed over an acupuncture point in the ear and you can press it. I used to get them for anxiety and it helped a lot. Glad you listened to your body not feeling the trazodone and tried some acupuncture. Hope it helps and you're sleeping well very soon!

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Started on Prozac in early 2000s to treat cPTSD, been on various cocktails ever since.

2002-2004, 2017-2022: Buspar, tapered down to 0

2016-present: 100mg Seroquel for sleep -> May 2023: 90mg -> June 2023: 81mg -> September 2023: 72mg -> switched to brand name, much too strong, down to 60mg -> October 2023: 54mg -> November 2023: 50mg -> January 2024: 45mg -> April 2024: 40.5mg

2016-Present: 100mg Wellbutrin SR -> January 2023: 75mg IR (37.5mg 2x a day) -> February 2023 (33.75mg 2x a day) -> July 2023 (30.37mg 2x a day) -> August 2023: 27.33mg 2x a day 

2018-present: 25mg Pristiq

2015-present: 600mg Gabapentin (200mg 3x a day) -> December 2022: 300mg Gabapentin (100mg 3x a day) per GP's recommendation after side effects -> March 2023: 90mg 3x a day (switched to liquid suspension) -> April 2023: 81mg 3x a day -> September 2023: bad generic, switched back to homemade liquid; too strong after bad generic, down to 70mg 3x a day, still bad. Adjusted slowly till at 60mg 3x a day, much better. Long hold till -> December 2023: 54mg, still feels too high after November Seroquel switch from brand name to generic, doc recommended 50mg which feels better -> January 2024: When Wellbutrin went down, Gabapentin started putting me to sleep, went down to 45mg, then 41mg to stay awake, so far so good -> February 2024: 36mg, still too high, 34mg -> March 2024: 31mg, STILL too high, 30mg

Supplements: Multivitamin w/magnesium, probiotics, digestive enzymes, anti-viral nitric oxide nose spray as needed

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On 7/6/2023 at 1:58 PM, littlebird said:

@TabbyCat82 trazodone messed me up worse than any one of these drugs: I lost my damn mind trying to get some sleep and had the worst/scariest side effects from this one in particular. It brought on my first and only hallucination within 2 days of taking it, never had psychosis before, and after stopping trazodone it never happened again.

 

Also currently fighting real hard against another anti-psychotic that replaced it (prescribed off-label for sleep like trazodone was) and I wish I'd just found other ways to get to sleep at night instead of adding in these heavy meds that (it turns out) were making depression worse and exacerbating other physical health issues. 


my doc gave me trazodone because I wasn’t sleeping (hadn’t for years) well. It was while I was on a whole host of psychotropic meds. Adding this one to the mix was my undoing. I had serotonin syndrome from it. One tiny dose. That’s all it took. Trazodone is DANGEROUS. 

~Lexapro 5mg 2009;  ~increased to 10mg; 2013ish.  ~increased to 20mg; 2017
~January 2021 had an episode of Serotonin Syndrome (from one single 50mg dose of trazodone) reduced from 20mg to 10mg. 
~Mid April 2021- Followed doctors taper schedule to get off lex. Within 6ish weeks I went from 10mg to 5mg and then 5mg every other day and then every 3 days and then quit. 
~Early June 2021 stopped Lexapro 

~July 5th; reinstated 2.5 mg Lexapro 

~July 6th; started atenolol 12.5 2x day for heart palpitations (resting bpm 110). 
~July 19th; upped to 3.75

~Sept 12; Updose 5mg (want WD to go AWAY-no longer trying to get off Lexapro. Want my life back!)

Lansoprazole 2000-2021

~July 27th 2021 breaking capsules and removing 40 tiny beads 

~Sept 2021- worked up to removing 300 of the 500 beads

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Many months ago, I started taking melatonin at 10mg per a pharmacist's recommendation. Once the 10mg bottle of melatonin was empty, I began 5mg. I take melatonin nightly. I am grateful that I fall asleep fairly quickly, but I am looking for solutions to extend my sleep. Any suggestions to extend sleep? Also, do I need to look for other sleep aid recommendations and warnings on this site - i.e. cbd oil, tryptophan, others?

Celexa: 2002-2014, 20mg; 2014 0 mg (converted to Lexapro);

Lexapro/Escitalopram: 2014 - 2020, 20mg; 01/01/2021, 0 mg; 05/11/2021, 20 mg; 06/20/2021, 15 mg; 07/20/2021, 10 mg; 08/20/2021, 5 mg; 10/01/2021, 4 mg; 0 mg;
Zoloft/Sertraline: 06/01/2020, 50 mg; 08/10/2021, 0 mg;
Amitriptyline: 07/10/2020, 20 mg; 07/14/2020, 0 mg;
Trazodone: 07/14/2020, 50 mg; 08/06/2020, 0 mg;
Temazapam: 08/10/2020, 15 mg; 08/11/2020, 0 mg;
Seroquel/Quetiapine: 10/15/2020, 200 mg; 04/11/2021, 150 mg; 05/09/2021, 100 mg; 05/23/2021, 50 mg; 06/06/2021, 25 mg; 06/20/2021, 12.5 mg; 07/20/2021, 0 mg;
Paxil/Paroxitine: 10/17/2020, 40 mg; 10/18/2020, 0 mg;
Wellbutrin/Bupropion: 10/21/2020, 75 mg; 10/24/2020, 150 mg; 11/18/2020, 300 mg; 04/11/2021, 200 mg; 04/25/2021, 100 mg; 05/09/2021, 0 mg;
Lithium: 12/02/2020, 300 mg; 12/15/2020, 600 mg; 12/28/2020, 900 mg; 01/27/2021, 600 mg; 02/10/2021, 300 mg; 02/24/2021, 150 mg; 03/10/21, 0 mg;

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Reviving this thread with another cautionary tale here.

 

Was briefly cut off from painkillers (no taper) just due to general antiopiate hysteria.  (Serious chronic pain here, headache is the worst, I take less than 10 mg Norco approx. 5 days per week down from 7 days per week, never had issues with wanting more in 20 odd years.)

 

The good news:  After 96 hours w/ no medication, I discovered that there is zero withdrawal from Norco in this dosage, or at least none that I could identify... might have been something super subtle lurking underneath chronic pain.  No rebound, either-- pain had the usual strength and frequency it does on days when I do not dose and 'guess wrong.'  (When I guess right, and avoid triggers like sunlight, hard exercise, and work only 4 hours in a day, I can sometimes totally avoid a headache and don't need medication.)

 

Anyway, I talked to my... er, representative and my doctor, and we got things sorted, filled the prescription, back to the same dose I've been taking since 2017.  No physical ill effects, I didn't feel more anxious, but I couldn't sleep b/c of the shame of disappointing my GP for some unknowable reason and general health care system dysfunction, existential stress, etc.  (I'm a health care provider, too.)  To avoid increasing anxiety meds-- which I don't need for this anyway, existential stress isn't treatable with meds-- I thought I would try melatonin.  Had 12 mg tablets, so took 3 mg, thinking that would be a low dose.

 

Big mistake!  Made me incredibly depressed in the morning, felt physical, like when I used to drink and take metronidazole!  Took me several days to figure out, too-- I thought maybe I was actually developing a major depressive disorder, though I knew that was crazy.

 

Stopped the melatonin.  I'm still a little shaken up, still have some trouble sleeping, but that organic feeling of depression, like my brain wasn't booting properly, is gone.  So to all who might tread in my footsteps:  Start low if you try this at all!  i should have checked here first!  And if depression increases after starting melatonin, particularly in the morning, consider that very suspicious. 

1997 -- Started Lorazepam, 1 to 1.5 mg. 2-4x per week, had been drinking 4 + drinks per day + recreational cannabis

2002 -- Started Paxil, 10 mg 1x per day for only 23 days.  Blunted affect, depersonalization, odd abrasive feeling like bad LSD

2002 -- Stopped Paxil cold turkey, onset of PSSD almost immediately.  Partner noticed no change, function was ok, but the most important dimension of arousal was absent.  No sense of connection, utter misery.

2004 / 2005 -- Ativan increases in frequency to 1x per day, Started Ambien 1x per night after first DVT, dx changed from Lups to MCTD

2008-- Started hydrocondone & APAP 5mg x 500 x2 per day, though 4 days out of 45 I would take x3 per day

2010 -- Started group therapy with classmates, PSSD resolved completely & permanently in 1 session

2011 -- Resumed drinking about 3-4 drinks per night.

2013 -- Took Flagyl (metronidazole) with alcohol, had a near-psychotic break, uncontrollable rumination. 
2014 -- Started AA, stopped drinking and all recreation drugs.  End of the nightmare.  Continued Lorazepam.

2016 -- GP forced taper of opiates, psychiatrist disputed, negotiated compromise Norco 5mg/500 x2 5x /week.  No withdrawal.

2023 -- No changes, still 1 to 1.3 mg. Ativan per day, stopped Ambien, no other psych meds, no alcohol or recreational drugs. 

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On 8/19/2023 at 5:21 PM, PrayingForRestoration said:

Many months ago, I started taking melatonin at 10mg per a pharmacist's recommendation. Once the 10mg bottle of melatonin was empty, I began 5mg. I take melatonin nightly. I am grateful that I fall asleep fairly quickly, but I am looking for solutions to extend my sleep. Any suggestions to extend sleep? Also, do I need to look for other sleep aid recommendations and warnings on this site - i.e. cbd oil, tryptophan, others?

Make sure you’re taking the extended release melatonin- ER, SR, etc.

May 2019 started lexapro 2.5 mg; 2020 went to every other day; 2021 beginning of Mar, tried to stop but had insomnia; Mar 30, 2021 reinstated 1.25 ev other day, WD symptoms, not enough

April 19, 2021 started liquid, .85 mg/day; May 1, 2021 .8 mg, May 6 .75 mg; June 6 .7 mg, June 20 .65mg, June 30  .6mg, Jul 24 .55 mg, Oct 17 .5 mg, Dec 5- .45 mg; Jan 26, 2022- 4mg,  April 18- .375 ; April 24- .35; April 29- .3; Jun 12- .25 mg; Jun 28- .2 lex; Sept- .15 mg, Nov .1- long hold, never got better

June ‘23- PPPD started 🙁, Jun- .09, Jul- .08, Oct- .07, Dec- .06, Jan ‘24- .05!

Taking Magnesium, whole foods iron, & natural supplements as needed for sleep

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