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Digestive problems: Nausea, Diarrhea, Bloating, GERD


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#1 Sunny1008

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 08:47 AM

ADMIN NOTE Overview of some diets and treatments for digestive problems http://survivinganti...-gerd/?p=195843
 
Also see:
Food sensitivities
 
Gluten Sensitivity Vs. Celiac Disease Vs. Gluten Intolerance...
 
Histamine food intolerance
 
SCD/GAPS/Paleo Diets
 
Probiotics and gut health

That acid reflux pill may be causing your health problems
 
 
Hi everyone, It is just over a year now since I have been completely off drugs. I have gone through a very severe withdrawal. About three months ago, I developed severe gastrointestinal symptoms, seemingly overnight. I was fine one day, sick the next. I have gone through thousands of dollars worth of tests, only to have them all come back normal. I am wondering if my stomach problems could be linked to the withdrawal?? What do you all think? My symptoms, which came out of the blue are: Nausea Queasiness Severe acid reflux (never had before in my life) Bloating/full feeling Loss of appetite Significant weight loss (have lost 20 lbs. and am now considered underweight) I have just started a gluten-free diet to see if this helps my symptoms, but I just don't know anymore. My digestive system just does not feel normal. Do you think it is related to withdrawal, and if so, will it get better on its own??? Thanks, Sunny


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Zoloft 50mg for 7.5 years
Developed akathisia while on the drug Dec. 2009
Severe withdrawal/damage
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#2 GiaK

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 09:21 AM

hi Sunny, I shared a post in another section here today on gut health. A lot of people in withdrawal find that complete healing means tending to the gut. For me it's been and continues to be key. I've done a lot of research and study and experimentation on this. you can see today's post here: http://survivinganti...3016#entry23016 it talks about irritable bowel syndrome...but that's just a garbage pail term for all sorts of gut and stomach issues... anyway...within that post are links to more info on healing the gut too... for me it's been a journey of discovery and I'm still learning...and changing food and diet etc as I learn more and more.

Beyond Meds: http://beyondmeds.com/

I withdrew from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug.

I took a bit over 6 years to do it. Finished on Feb 9 2010. I'm still recovering from iatrogenesis.


#3 GiaK

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 09:23 AM

I've gone gluten free and dairy free too...I've also discovered a lot of food sensitivities...it's a process I'm still figuring out...

Beyond Meds: http://beyondmeds.com/

I withdrew from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug.

I took a bit over 6 years to do it. Finished on Feb 9 2010. I'm still recovering from iatrogenesis.


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 11:33 AM

Gia's post has been merged with Irritable bowel syndrome: Gut bacteria and what you can do
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 03:16 AM

I am experirncing lots of GI issues...mostly bloating and a feeling like my stomach isnt digesting food properly.

I've gone gluten-free and that helped the bloating a lot, and also helped me feel better mentally.

Still struggle to digest heavy foods like protein though.
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 03:24 AM

Phil... I've been playing with my diet for several years now and it's an ongoing evolution of lessons... I can make two suggestions enzymes and probiotics...both may help the issues you're experiencing... and diet may also need to continue to be tweaked... good luck...my gut is largely healed now but I'm still learning about food sensitivities etc...

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I took a bit over 6 years to do it. Finished on Feb 9 2010. I'm still recovering from iatrogenesis.


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Posted 05 June 2012 - 03:50 AM

Thanks Gia :) I keep meaning to try probiotics and enzymes, they're definitely next on my list of things to explore. I also eat pro-biotic yogurts but am not sure they do a lot.. I know what you mean about it being an evolution of lessons..I feel like I'm constantly learning new things when it comes to diet.
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#8 Sunny1008

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:03 AM

Hello all, I have had an extremely severe withdrawal from Zoloft. I have been completely off drugs for about a year and a half, but I don't consider myself recovered yet. About nine months ago, I started having a lot of digestive problems. I had lots of tests done, but the doctors said there is nothing wrong with me. I was diagnosed with "dyspepsia" and "irritable bowel syndrome". I am now wondering if all of my digestive problems are related to the withdrawal from Zoloft. I know that the gut contains the same neurons and chemicals as the brain, so it would make sense that the gut would be just as affected by withdrawal as the brain. Anyone else experience digestive problems during withdrawal? Will they resolve on their own??? I have been told by doctors that I just have to "live with" the symptoms, but that is easier said than done. Thanks! Sunny
Zoloft 50mg for 7.5 years
Developed akathisia while on the drug Dec. 2009
Severe withdrawal/damage
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#9 GiaK

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 09:50 AM

Hi Sunny...digestive problems are common among anyone who has been on psych drugs at all -- on and off of them both.

I've done extensive research and personal healing in this area. I had severe IBS with chronic explosive diarrhea for about 3 decades...I've healed my gut completely...it's the one way I've had total recovery...I'm very sick in other ways still...but I trust having a sound gut will allow the other healing I need. I've had normal healthy bowel movements for several years because the IBS was the first thing I tended to when I started coming off drugs...

I will share what I've done about this...at this point I have tons of info...see what speaks to you...it might be overwhelming at first...but the fact is you can heal your gut and most regular doctors don't have a clue about how to do it.

Nutrition and gut health, Mental health and diet
http://beyondmeds.com/gut-health/

there are threads on this board where people talk about healing protocols too...here is one: http://survivinganti...apspaleo-diets/

Beyond Meds: http://beyondmeds.com/

I withdrew from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug.

I took a bit over 6 years to do it. Finished on Feb 9 2010. I'm still recovering from iatrogenesis.


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Posted 09 December 2012 - 03:43 PM

Hello all,

I have had an extremely severe withdrawal from Zoloft. I have been completely off drugs for about a year and a half, but I don't consider myself recovered yet. About nine months ago, I started having a lot of digestive problems. I had lots of tests done, but the doctors said there is nothing wrong with me. I was diagnosed with "dyspepsia" and "irritable bowel syndrome". I am now wondering if all of my digestive problems are related to the withdrawal from Zoloft. I know that the gut contains the same neurons and chemicals as the brain, so it would make sense that the gut would be just as affected by withdrawal as the brain.

Anyone else experience digestive problems during withdrawal? Will they resolve on their own??? I have been told by doctors that I just have to "live with" the symptoms, but that is easier said than done.

Thanks!
Sunny


seems like we have some similarities. I too was on drugs for 7.5 years and am now almost a year and a half off. Actually more like 14 months. I never had digestive problems before drugs and dont have anything severe now, but I do have some issues with my colon that developed while on paxil. I would get horrible spasms every once in a while and also blood down there. Over time things sort of leveled out but this past 8 months the spasms are worse and it sounds like colitis or something. Thankfully I dont have diarrhea, but get a little constipated which I am not sure is from the colon issues or the vice versa. One thing that I believe helped a lot is probiotics. I drink raw kefir and sauerkraut. I also drink home made bone stock. Perhaps you can look into the GAPS diet as a way to heal any issues. I also started taking citracel which helps with the pain. My best relief comes from the citracel and probiotics. Both help and just taking one does not help much.

I hope things resolve on their own. This past few months have been hard on me, but mostly likely some stressful life events are making things MUCH worse. I recently developed constant muscle twitching and pain. Something I never had until now. While on drugs I did get the jerks and stuff, but during withdrawal they were minimal and now suddenly twitching. The twicthing has dies down thankfully.

I would think that since the digestive system has muscles, and these drugs do something to our muscles, then they can easily disturb the digestive system.
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 02:03 PM

We have similaries too. I was on and off Zoloft for 7 years, am almost a year off. I started having digestive issues before Chistmas. I'm not sure if it's withdrawal or the fact that I was eating oats which were gluten free and so I thought ok and then worked out they were causing problems. I've stopped eating them now, but think they'll have inflamed my gut so need it to stop being inflamed. I know I'm intolerant to gluten and diary, so avoiding that. Recently stomach been very crampy and painful. I've started taking probiotics daily and eating only non-processed foods so am avoiding all the chemical additives that are in foods that probably don't help things. I make my own chicken soup, and try and take regular exercise. I've lost loads of weight though so no energy to play the sports I used to.
01/2006 Put on Prozac for anxiety and panic attacks 08/2008 Came off Zoloft after tapering don't remember taper, lost weight, felt like had cold constantly, very panicky, pain everywhere (misdiagnosed fibromyalgia), head funny.05/2010 put back on Zoloft03/2012 came completely off Zoloft followed Dr standard taper- no appetite, lost weight (0.5 stone), flu-like feelings constantly, pain everywhere, head funny, nausea, very panicky, very strong emotions etc Lost 1 stone.04/2013 improving. actually put on some weight and hungry most of the time. Still burning pain joints, stomach upset, headache/feel faint and emotions very strong. Chest very painful too.01/2014 improving still. Gained weight!! Still hungry. Still headache/feel faint and strong emotions and chest/shoulder muscles painful. Periods irregular and very painful. Very tired. Joints burn only if eat refined sugars. Started eating fruits again.03/2014 2 years off. Now intolerances developed to nuts and soya. Permanently hungry, Emotions strong but started healing psychological reasons I was put on antidepressants with therapist. Shoulder pain bad, heady often, very tired.06/2014 flu-like symptoms returned, many intolerances, stomach painful, skin crawling feeling, muscles painful, very emotional. :-((
09/2016 over 4.5 years off, no real changes in symptoms, still much pain, headiness, heart weird, digestion bad, hormones unbalanced, nausea yet very hungry, tired, flu like symptoms etc etc.
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Posted 20 March 2013 - 09:38 AM

I took a month to get off my low dose of Nortriptyline. Almost immediately after starting to wean myself, I got diarrhea. I've been off the med completely for over two months now and am still having problems. I called my dr's office but they didn't believe it had to do with the medication. I'm going to attempt to get in for an appointment soon. I haven't been able to find a whole lot of information on withdrawal of this medication with my specific issue. As much as I don't want to, I'm thinking about getting back on the medication. Any advice for coping with this or for when I get to the doctor?

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 12:49 PM

gut issues are very very often associate with psych drug use. Doctors on the other hand seem clueless about this...it's really incredible, but true...so it's unlikely unless you see someone relatively enlightened about such things that you'll get help there.

I have written extensively about healing my gut issues and referenced what I've seen in the population of those on psych drugs.

People who have taken psychiatric drugs often have gut issues. Sometimes these issues predate the psych drug use (as it did for me) and sometimes the psych drugs destabilize the gut and body in general and so the drugs are the cause of such issues. In either case it’s common that the use of psych drugs in time will further exacerbate the problem.

I suggest you work on healing your gut...meds will not do that, though it might mask the problem for a time

here is a place to start looking at info:

Nutrition and gut health, Mental health and diet

http://beyondmeds.com/gut-health/

that page leads to other posts with lots of links to news articles etc. This stuff is scientifically supported...just hasn't hit medical schools yet, though complimentary and integrative doctors are definitely starting to catch on.

Beyond Meds: http://beyondmeds.com/

I withdrew from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug.

I took a bit over 6 years to do it. Finished on Feb 9 2010. I'm still recovering from iatrogenesis.


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Posted 20 March 2013 - 04:16 PM

Hi Sick and Tired, and welcome! Sorry to read you are having problems. Are you having any other issues besides this one? The reason I ask is, I had severe exhaustion and some hair loss in combination with diarrhea after a drug reaction that led to a c/t withdrawal and then other meds, and it turned out the culprit for both this group of symptoms as well as a prior diagnosis of "depression" was low iron. The really tricky thing about it was though, I actually test in the normal range. I am at the low end. Apparently if your iron levels get to be low enough you can wind up with chronic diarrhea, which can become a self-perpetuating problem, as obviously you won't be absorbing all the nutrients you need from food under such a circumstance. Even though I am in range, that was the case for me. Iron also depends on other vitamins, like vit. C, so not consuming enough or not absorbing enough can be detrimental as well. In my case, I am sure that the drugs made things exponentially worse, as at one point I had mild hyperthyroidism from the reaction, which was another cause and would have exacerbated the problems greatly. In your case though it could be something totally different--there are tons of causes for your symptom so that, if it were me, I would extremely hesitant to restart, as easily it could be explained by some other issue, including a bug. Also, if you feel it could be related to iron, please make sure to get your iron levels tested and talk to a doctor before taking any supplements as too much iron can also be dangerous. In other words, this isn't medical advice!

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 10:53 PM

the thing with diarrhea is that there can be many many things associated with it...part of gut healing is finding nutritional deficiencies of all kinds...iron being just one of them. it's also important to know that one should NOT supplement with iron if one doesn't need it especially if one is a menstruating woman, so testing is a good idea if you want to go that route.

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I withdrew from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug.

I took a bit over 6 years to do it. Finished on Feb 9 2010. I'm still recovering from iatrogenesis.


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Posted 21 March 2013 - 04:52 PM



it's also important to know that one should NOT supplement with iron if one doesn't need it especially if one is a menstruating woman, so testing is a good idea if you want to go that route.


Oh, I know that, I hope that was clear in my post? The point I was trying to make wasn't to supplement randomly, just that if you feel you have the symptoms but still are in the normal range but near the bottom it might be advisable to ask the doctor why and if you can benefit from a supplement. I don't advise doing your own supplementing with iron, you definitely need to get your levels tested and have a doctor on board.

Partly recovered from AD withdrawal/reactions as well as issues with other psych drugs.  Also, I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions. Also due to the withdrawal/reactions I have had I may at times have cognitive problems so please keep this in mind when reading my posts (also please note, these issues are improving as I recover).

 


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Posted 21 March 2013 - 05:08 PM

I've heard using cast iron cookware can give a gentle boost?
1st round Prozac 1989/90, clear depression symptoms. 2nd round Prozac started 1999 when admitted to dr. I was tired. Prozac pooped out, switch to Cymbalta 3/2006. Diagnosed with bipolar disorder due to mania 6/2006--then I was taken abruptly off Cymbalta and didn't know I had SSRI withdrawal. Lots of meds for my intractable "bipolar" symptoms.
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#18 GiaK

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 11:07 PM

I've heard that about cast iron too...and it's probably gentle enough to be safe for anyone. Sorry if I was reiterating something you said UnfoldingSky...more than anything I wanted to underscore that there are dozens of possible issues and more often than not with the gut it's a combination of issues...and it's often like finding a needle in a haystack...or several needles in several haystacks...a systemic approach can be helpful for that reason. that said, I've seen many many people figure out their gut issues...it's by no means impossible but it can be a bit of a journey...for me it's been a fascinating one that's led to many understandings about my entire mind and body systems.

Beyond Meds: http://beyondmeds.com/

I withdrew from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug.

I took a bit over 6 years to do it. Finished on Feb 9 2010. I'm still recovering from iatrogenesis.


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 01:36 AM

gut issues are very very often associate with psych drug use. Doctors on the other hand seem clueless about this...it's really incredible, but true...so it's unlikely unless you see someone relatively enlightened about such things that you'll get help there.

....

I suggest you work on healing your gut...meds will not do that, though it might mask the problem for a time

here is a place to start looking at info:

Nutrition and gut health, Mental health and diet

http://beyondmeds.com/gut-health/

I second what Gia has recommended. Gut health definitely factors into my recovery and is undoubtably important. I've read up on the subject on Gia's blog anf think she has compiled information that can help you, SickandTired.

Alex

"Well my ship's been split to splinters and it's sinking fast
I'm drowning in the poison, got no future, got no past
But my heart is not weary, it's light and it's free
I've got nothing but affection for all those who sailed with me.

Everybody's moving, if they ain't already there
Everybody's got to move somewhere
Stick with me baby, stick with me anyhow
Things should start to get interesting right about now."

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 02:08 PM

I appreciate the responses! This diarrhea is a complete 180 for me. I've have digestive issues most of my life--IBS-C and have had to be very careful with my diet. My iron has been on the low side for over a decade. I've tried to improve my numbers with various iron supplements, but they always made me ill and the constipation worse. That's one of the reasons I wanted to get off the Nortriptyline. That made my constipation worse and I was hoping that by getting of the medication, I could at least on occasion take a chewable vitamin with iron (most gentle for me).

I called my gp's office and the nurse didn't seem to have much knowledge of the subject, so I called my psych's office. She told me to get back on the med, starting with 10mg. Out of desperation, that is what I'm doing. It's only been a couple days, but I've only noticed a slight improvement, along with a couple side effects. I've been taking probiotics and digestive enzymes for a few years now as well as Vitamin D, Omega/Flax Seed oil, and a couple antioxidants. I'm also pretty much gluten free.

I can't remember now if I mentioned that I also take 20mg of Lexapro. I've been on both medications for several years. I'm hoping that the low dosage will help and that I can then taper off again extremely slowly. I really don't know what else to do.

Again, thank you for your input!

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 02:22 PM

Glad you're feeling better! Sounds like you've done a lot. I've been in GI Hades on day 3 now....I think now it is a WD thing...I feel totally calm but develop a "shell" of low-grade panic, and then the GI symptoms start. I hope re-instating helps us both!
1st round Prozac 1989/90, clear depression symptoms. 2nd round Prozac started 1999 when admitted to dr. I was tired. Prozac pooped out, switch to Cymbalta 3/2006. Diagnosed with bipolar disorder due to mania 6/2006--then I was taken abruptly off Cymbalta and didn't know I had SSRI withdrawal. Lots of meds for my intractable "bipolar" symptoms.
Zyprexa started about 9/06, mostly 5mg. Tapered 4/12 through12/29/12
Wellbutrin. XL 300 mg started 1/07, tapered 1/18/13 through 7/8/13
Oxazepam mostly continuously since 6/06, 30mg since 12/12, tapered 1.17.14 through 8.26.15
11/06 Lithium 600mg twice daily, 2.2.14 400mg TID DIY liquid, 2.12.14 1150mg, 3.2.14 1100mg, 3.18.14 1075mg, 4/14 updose to 1100mg, 6.1.14 900 mg capsules 7.8.14 810mg, 8.17.14 725mg, 8.24.24 700mg...10.22.14 487.5mg, 3.9.15 475mg, 4.1.15 462.5mg 4.21.15 450mg 8.11.15 375mg, 11.28.15 362.5mg, back to 375mg four days later, 3.4.16 updose to 475 (too much going on to risk trouble)
9/4/13 Toprol-XL 25mg daily for sudden hypertension, tapered 11.12.13 through 5.3.14, last 10 days or so switched to atenolol
7.4.14 Started Walsh Protocol
56 years old

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 07:53 PM

I've heard that about cast iron too...and it's probably gentle enough to be safe for anyone.

Sorry if I was reiterating something you said UnfoldingSky...more than anything I wanted to underscore that there are dozens of possible issues and more often than not with the gut it's a combination of issues...and it's often like finding a needle in a haystack...or several needles in several haystacks...a systemic approach can be helpful for that reason.

that said, I've seen many many people figure out their gut issues...it's by no means impossible but it can be a bit of a journey...for me it's been a fascinating one that's led to many understandings about my entire mind and body systems.


No biggie, I was just worried it wasn't clear as I get foggy a lot. And your info is really good by the way, it is quite an accomplishment too given withdrawal...Good job!

Partly recovered from AD withdrawal/reactions as well as issues with other psych drugs.  Also, I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions. Also due to the withdrawal/reactions I have had I may at times have cognitive problems so please keep this in mind when reading my posts (also please note, these issues are improving as I recover).

 


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Posted 30 March 2013 - 09:57 AM

Ruby, please keep us/me posted on what you find out and how you're doing. I'm up to about half my original dosage of medication and still no change for me (besides the unwanted addition of side effects). I am so scared that this medication has permanently damaged my digestive system.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 04:03 PM

I think the chances are slim that the medication has caused irreversible damage. Sometimes when I have diarrhea I take a handful of probiotic capsules -- like a dozen+ -- and that sometimes helps. Constipation is a far worse problem for me. I find fiberous foods -- nuts, salads -- make my constipation worse. I also discovered I had a gut infection and after taking some Rx medication for gut parasites, GI function improved ... for awhile anyway. good luck. Alex

"Well my ship's been split to splinters and it's sinking fast
I'm drowning in the poison, got no future, got no past
But my heart is not weary, it's light and it's free
I've got nothing but affection for all those who sailed with me.

Everybody's moving, if they ain't already there
Everybody's got to move somewhere
Stick with me baby, stick with me anyhow
Things should start to get interesting right about now."

- Zimmerman


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Posted 30 March 2013 - 04:06 PM

just a word of caution...probiotics, I agree can be very helpful but someone who has not taken lots of them before SHOULD NOT take a mega dose...one needs to slowly build up as they can make people sick otherwise...especially when the gut is unhealthy...they will cause bad bacteria die-off and the result can be feeling very ill... start VERY slowly when adding probiotics for the first time.

Beyond Meds: http://beyondmeds.com/

I withdrew from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug.

I took a bit over 6 years to do it. Finished on Feb 9 2010. I'm still recovering from iatrogenesis.


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Posted 30 March 2013 - 04:12 PM

Gia's advice is more appropriate, on second thought. Better to be safe than sorry.

"Well my ship's been split to splinters and it's sinking fast
I'm drowning in the poison, got no future, got no past
But my heart is not weary, it's light and it's free
I've got nothing but affection for all those who sailed with me.

Everybody's moving, if they ain't already there
Everybody's got to move somewhere
Stick with me baby, stick with me anyhow
Things should start to get interesting right about now."

- Zimmerman


#27 ruby

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 08:14 PM

Hi Sickandtired, my gut felt a bit better this week. I think the homemade goat yogurt that is rich in probiotics is helping. I eat 4-5 tablespoons in the morning on an empty stomach. Also, I have to be strict with not eating any sugar and grains otherwise my digestive system feels worse. Having a very limited diet and chronic G.I. upset is so frustrating as you know; it's totally imparing my life. I don't think it's permanent since all my other withdrawal symptoms have lessened a lot. The gut is just very hypersensitive as it's a major part of the nervous system. I had tests done for parasites and H.pylori that turned out negative. The SCD diet is helpful as long as I stick to it, but it's all about listening to the body and see how it reacts to each food ingested. My skin also flares up with rashes and I feel moody if I eat sugar and processed foods. I'm also cutting out all GMO foods as much as I can - no soy or corn based products that are not organic. The food eaten is related to everything on how the body and mind functions. Exercise helps too and it keeps my mind off of focusing on this problem. Even if my gut doesn't heal or ever function normally again, there is no way I would ever go back on SSRIs.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 05:00 PM

Hi Sick and Tired I hope this post finds you better than previous ... I too am having withdrawal symptoms from stopping cold turkey nortriptyline My symptom is nausea .. Non stop . It's been 12 weeks or so . I reinstated for ten days and felt no particular relief and had bad headaches got scarred and stopped again I just wonder if you have stayed with the reinstatement and has it helped? The fear is the same will it ever end . Just curious and again sending you wellness wishes
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Quit cold turkey feb. 12th / bad withdrawal symptoms
Reinstated for 5 days in march / very bad reaction quit again
Suffering with Nausea / headaches / chills

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 10:41 AM

The pain is kind of like someone is drilling into my stomach. It may not the Effexor, but I noticed since I've had the withdrawal.

Tapering Zoloft, Dec 2014

Started Lamictal

Re-started Zoloft mid-Oct 2014, 25-50mg

Stopped Zoloft end of Sept 2014

Started Zoloft July 2014, 50mg

Stopped Prozac from 3mg May 2014

Stopped Effexor Dec '13 Started 10mg Prozac

Reinstated Effexor 15mg on Nov 2013

Stopped from 21mg on Oct 2013
Effexor 112.5mg, since Dec 2012


#30 Meimeiquest

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 04:44 PM

Yes, pain and nausea are extremely common. But some people have had physical problems revealed with endoscopy. Recently someone on this site, and my niece.
1st round Prozac 1989/90, clear depression symptoms. 2nd round Prozac started 1999 when admitted to dr. I was tired. Prozac pooped out, switch to Cymbalta 3/2006. Diagnosed with bipolar disorder due to mania 6/2006--then I was taken abruptly off Cymbalta and didn't know I had SSRI withdrawal. Lots of meds for my intractable "bipolar" symptoms.
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11/06 Lithium 600mg twice daily, 2.2.14 400mg TID DIY liquid, 2.12.14 1150mg, 3.2.14 1100mg, 3.18.14 1075mg, 4/14 updose to 1100mg, 6.1.14 900 mg capsules 7.8.14 810mg, 8.17.14 725mg, 8.24.24 700mg...10.22.14 487.5mg, 3.9.15 475mg, 4.1.15 462.5mg 4.21.15 450mg 8.11.15 375mg, 11.28.15 362.5mg, back to 375mg four days later, 3.4.16 updose to 475 (too much going on to risk trouble)
9/4/13 Toprol-XL 25mg daily for sudden hypertension, tapered 11.12.13 through 5.3.14, last 10 days or so switched to atenolol
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Posted 18 April 2013 - 08:40 PM

Is there anything that helps the pain? Or should I just wait it out?

Tapering Zoloft, Dec 2014

Started Lamictal

Re-started Zoloft mid-Oct 2014, 25-50mg

Stopped Zoloft end of Sept 2014

Started Zoloft July 2014, 50mg

Stopped Prozac from 3mg May 2014

Stopped Effexor Dec '13 Started 10mg Prozac

Reinstated Effexor 15mg on Nov 2013

Stopped from 21mg on Oct 2013
Effexor 112.5mg, since Dec 2012


#32 SickandTired

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 08:06 AM

To make a long story short, I got back on the medication, 2/3 of my original dosage and am very slowly getting off of it again. I've been weaning myself off for a month now and am only down 2 mgs. I'm still have some bouts of diarrhea. I don't know if I'll ever be able to get off of this medication without having symptoms. My doctor, although skeptical that the med could cause this, doesn't seem to think so either. I am frustrated beyond words that I wasn't aware how this med could affect me in the long run. I never would've taken it in the first place.

#33 AnxietyOnly

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 06:29 AM

For everyone here I recommend you visit this word press blog.

I think this guy has put together a well thought out site that is highly relevant to everyony who has used a pshyc or mood altering drug.

 

There are many peoples experiences and alot of information. I will follow up later with my comments but i would first like to spread the word that this guy's site relieived my anxiety through the supply of information it contains.

 

I beleive the boudary of any mood altering drug and gut health is breached when you take the meds. The consequence of the meds is relatively undefined interms of your digestive system. For anyone adusting the level of a medication wether up or down there will be an effect.

 

For those wishing to taper or for those reinstating due to a bad taper this blog is good to read.

 

It's a start and i wish you all well.

 

http://npanth.wordpress.com/



#34 cymbaltawithdrawal5600

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 03:38 AM

Thanks, AO, for mentioning this.

 

This is an excellent blog. npanth is a member here, too.

 

This is also referenced in this topic:

 

James Heaney's Blog

 

This blog makes at least a sensible attempt at explaining that miserable "I'll be in withdrawal forever" state of mind. The author also points out that prolonged withdrawal can teach us mindfulness, a tool which not only helps us through withdrawal but continues to help us as we handle whatever problems caused us to take medication without resorting to drugs.


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July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site.

Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 07:03 AM

Hello all, I have had an extremely severe withdrawal from Zoloft. I have been completely off drugs for about a year and a half, but I don't consider myself recovered yet. About nine months ago, I started having a lot of digestive problems. I had lots of tests done, but the doctors said there is nothing wrong with me. I was diagnosed with "dyspepsia" and "irritable bowel syndrome". I am now wondering if all of my digestive problems are related to the withdrawal from Zoloft. I know that the gut contains the same neurons and chemicals as the brain, so it would make sense that the gut would be just as affected by withdrawal as the brain. Anyone else experience digestive problems during withdrawal? Will they resolve on their own??? I have been told by doctors that I just have to "live with" the symptoms, but that is easier said than done. Thanks! Sunny

 

I would say yes to your question, I tapered in april too quickly and had to reinstate. the side effects happened exactly in reverse as when first getting on zoloft. the jaw clenching the brain zaps and the vivid dreams, the lower i went the more prevalent they became.

 

However 6 weeks after cessation I bloated and began hurting nothing but diarrea, food began to run straight through me. There was nothing i could take or eat to change this. Pro biotics vitamins digestive enzymes all the nutritious food, high fiber, lean meats, no fat, no processed food. Nothing worked.  Ive reinstated and in my fourth week at 100mg zoloft the pain and bloating have almost magically dissapeared. My intestinal track time is back to normal and things are "firming up".

 

I perceive this as my mind may no longer require the Zoloft but my Gastrointestinal System does because without the Zoloft there is not enough Seretonin to go around.

It really was my major symptom it was late occuring and really it started after i had bled dry of sertraline and my seretonin became low.

 

I could easily live with everything in my head that happened after the taper knowing that time, Introspection and mental training would ultimately see me through.

The brain things were almost "Zap ...where am I"... humerous, The cloudy fog would have passed had I continued

My digestive system however, would have been sensless suffering  

 

 



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Posted 09 July 2013 - 02:11 PM

I've been having intermittent problems with nausea and queasiness. I think I posted about it before. I was wondering if anyone has suggestions to help cope with it.

 

I think it's due to a combination of Lamictal tapering and my night-shift schedule; my digestive system seems to have more trouble switching between nights and days than my sleep/wake cycle. It's got to be the Lamictal too though, because it seems to come on 4-5 days after I make a reduction and then gets gradually better as I hold.

 

Anyway, maybe I just need to whine, but if anyone's been through this and has suggestions, I'd be glad to hear them.


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Now tapering, ironically (but not surprisingly) healthier and more functional than I ever was during the years on the "meds," even with withdrawal (usually fairly mild at this slow pace).

 

Started multidrug taper in Feb 2010.  Doing a very slow microtaper, down to low doses now and feeling SO much better, getting my old personality and my brain back! Able to work full time, have a full social life, and cope with stress better than ever. Not perfect, but much better. After 23 lost years. Big Pharma has a lot to answer for. And "medicine for profit" is just not a great idea.

 

Feb 15 2010:  300 mg Neurontin  200 Lamictal   10 Celexa      0.65 Xanax   and 5 mg Ambien 

Feb 14 2011:   86 mg Neurontin   144 Lamictal,    5.5 Celexa   0.42 Xanax      1.9 mg Valium

Feb 16 2012:   10 mg Neurontin   115 Lamictal     3.7 Celexa   0.285 Xanax     2.0 Valium

Feb 22 2013:   86 Lamictal    2.05 Celexa       0.23 Xanax      1.8 Valium

Feb 10 2014:   62 Lamictal    1.1 Celexa         0.135 Xanax    1.8 Valium

Feb 10 2015:   50 Lamictal      0.875 Celexa    0.11 Xanax      1.5 Valium

Feb 15 2016:   47.5 Lamictal   0.75 Celexa      0.0875 Xanax    1.42 Valium    

Now:                43                    0.625                 0.0775            1.3

 

I'm not a doctor. Any advice I give is just my civilian opinion.