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#73 Finn

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Posted 01 May 2014 - 01:32 PM

Since I've been tapering/ stopping Prozac, I've had bad stomach pain, bloating, acid. I take a probiotic, but the discomfort remains so I doubt it is helping much. It's like the cheapest one you can get at Walgreens, though, and my diet is far from optimal for healing. Before I took any drugs like maybe five years ago, I had unexplainable stomach pain so who knows what's up now.


Tapering Zoloft, Dec 2014

Started Lamictal

Re-started Zoloft mid-Oct 2014, 25-50mg

Stopped Zoloft end of Sept 2014

Started Zoloft July 2014, 50mg

Stopped Prozac from 3mg May 2014

Stopped Effexor Dec '13 Started 10mg Prozac

Reinstated Effexor 15mg on Nov 2013

Stopped from 21mg on Oct 2013
Effexor 112.5mg, since Dec 2012


#74 catw66

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 04:17 PM

Is this part of protracted withdrawal syndrome? I've been feeling more bloated longer before my period and after it as well. I don't know if it's that I just have a little middle-age spread going on and am self-conscious about it or what, but I often feel bloated and full - like my stomach is not emptying out enough. I used to have a pretty flat stomach.

 

I have recently, in the past four days, cut out dairy and still do gluten here and there, but not a whole lot.

 

I have a hard time believing that after months of giving up psych meds that I would be going through strange symptoms that may be related to coming off of them. But I guess if anyone would go through PWS from meds, it might be me as I was on them so many years and took just about all of them. Is denial that all this could be happening possible too?

 

I just feel like everything I eat feels gross and like I'm being poisoned by food or something. Sometimes I feel like is this just me or PWS? I had an eating disorder many years ago and this is making me very uncomfortable - worrying that because I am not on meds, I am going to start becoming obsessive about my body and food. I definitely don't feel comfortable in my own skin or attractive anymore, though when I practice yoga, I get some relief from all this - at least perception wise.

 

Would digestive enzymes help? Anyone else have this and had to make any dietary changes? It is not always present, but some days it is a real pain and I never had this issue to such a prolonged extent before.


Finished slow taper on 4/6/14 from 20 mg to 6 beads over period of almost a year on Cymbalta and then quit cannabis around the time I DC'd Cymbalta.

Tried to go off completely 8/13 - 8/20 (didn't work) - Reinstated 10mg on 8/21/13

Off Adderall (2010 -2013) after 3.5 years since July 12th, 2013

Taking Tramadol 50 mg since 2007 for chronic pain

Lamictal 450 mg (from 2007 - 2009)

Lexapro (2004-2007 30 mg?)

Ambien (2009-2010)

Trazadone (2010-2011 for sleep)

2008-2010 -Trials of Wellbutrin, Paxil, Ritalin, Concerta, Effexor, Risperdal, Abilify, Seroquel, Trileptal

Earlier history includes - long courses of Tricyclics, Prozac, Wellbutrin, Paxil. Serzone, Celexa, Remeron, Zoloft for shorter periods.

Haldol, Lithium, Stelazine. Xanax, Clonipin, and Ativan have been used on and off, mostly Clonipin. Went through serious Xanax withdrawal a couple times in my life so far. Methadone (2003-2005 - psychiatrist/pain management doctor decided that was the first thing I ought to try for moderate chronic pain).  MS Contin 2005-2007 (aka Morphine)

 


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 02:42 AM

I often feel bloated and react to lots of different foods. I find my body needs more time to digest food, and I get constipated a lot. This only improved when I changed my diet - I now eat less often, and only eat light, clean foods. I don't eat grains or carb-heavy foods anymore, or things that take ages to digest. My bloating has also improved since going on a low-histamine diet. 


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#76 ndmaar

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Posted 04 August 2014 - 10:37 AM

Well, my gut seems to have stopped digesting food. Fats are not digested at all, for carbs and proteins I'm not sure. As a result I lost 9 kg of weight in 1.5 months, was constantly hungry, muscles started to atrophy, feeling like a zombie etc.
1.5 weeks ago I started taking pancreatic enzymes that I found here locally. Now I feel a little better and weight loss has stopped, but it feels like these enzyme formulas are too week and I wasn't able to gain some weight.
 
Can someone, please, recommend a good enzyme blend, where 1 tablet would digest at least 30g of fat? There are so many different confusing enzyme strength units in US - USP, LU, FIP, FCC. Not sure which to choose.
And probably someone had experience with Dr. Mercola's enzymes?
 
Thanks for coming in and much healing to everyone.

Feb2012-Nov2012 - flupentixol 1mg

Nov2012-Jun2013 - amisulpride 50mg for 1mo, seroquel 300mg for 1mo, olanzapine 10mg for 4mo

Jun 2013: CT olanzapine

 

Jul 2013 - Oct 2013: mirtazapine 30mg

Nov 2013: 4 week taper down to 0.1mg

Nov 2013 - Feb 2014 - 0.1mg

Feb 2014: updosed to 1mg 

March 2014 - now: updosed to 5mg and holding

 

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#77 Meimeiquest

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Posted 04 August 2014 - 11:29 AM

I use NOW brand, but I don't have any gi symptoms, just food allergies.
1st round Prozac 1989/90, clear depression symptoms. 2nd round Prozac started 1999 when admitted to dr. I was tired. Prozac pooped out, switch to Cymbalta 3/2006. Diagnosed with bipolar disorder due to mania 6/2006--then I was taken abruptly off Cymbalta and didn't know I had SSRI withdrawal. Lots of meds for my intractable "bipolar" symptoms.
Zyprexa started about 9/06, mostly 5mg. Tapered 4/12 through12/29/12
Wellbutrin. XL 300 mg started 1/07, tapered 1/18/13 through 7/8/13
Oxazepam mostly continuously since 6/06, 30mg since 12/12, tapered 1.17.14 through 8.26.15
11/06 Lithium 600mg twice daily, 2.2.14 400mg TID DIY liquid, 2.12.14 1150mg, 3.2.14 1100mg, 3.18.14 1075mg, 4/14 updose to 1100mg, 6.1.14 900 mg capsules 7.8.14 810mg, 8.17.14 725mg, 8.24.24 700mg...10.22.14 487.5mg, 3.9.15 475mg, 4.1.15 462.5mg 4.21.15 450mg 8.11.15 375mg, 11.28.15 362.5mg, back to 375mg four days later, 3.4.16 updose to 475 (too much going on to risk trouble)
9/4/13 Toprol-XL 25mg daily for sudden hypertension, tapered 11.12.13 through 5.3.14, last 10 days or so switched to atenolol
7.4.14 Started Walsh Protocol
56 years old

#78 Rhiannon

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 10:47 AM

Withdrawal definitely messes with my GI tract.


Started on Prozac and Xanax in 1992 for PTSD after an assault. One drug led to more, the usual story. Got sicker and sicker, but believed I needed the drugs for my "underlying disease" as I was told. Long and tragic story...lost everything. Life savings, home, physical and mental health, relationships, friendships, ability to work, everything.

 

Now tapering, ironically (but not surprisingly) healthier and more functional than I ever was during the years on the "meds," even with withdrawal (usually fairly mild at this slow pace).

 

Started multidrug taper in Feb 2010.  Doing a very slow microtaper, down to low doses now and feeling SO much better, getting my old personality and my brain back! Able to work full time, have a full social life, and cope with stress better than ever. Not perfect, but much better. After 23 lost years. Big Pharma has a lot to answer for. And "medicine for profit" is just not a great idea.

 

Feb 15 2010:  300 mg Neurontin  200 Lamictal   10 Celexa      0.65 Xanax   and 5 mg Ambien 

Feb 14 2011:   86 mg Neurontin   144 Lamictal,    5.5 Celexa   0.42 Xanax      1.9 mg Valium

Feb 16 2012:   10 mg Neurontin   115 Lamictal     3.7 Celexa   0.285 Xanax     2.0 Valium

Feb 22 2013:   86 Lamictal    2.05 Celexa       0.23 Xanax      1.8 Valium

Feb 10 2014:   62 Lamictal    1.1 Celexa         0.135 Xanax    1.8 Valium

Feb 10 2015:   50 Lamictal      0.875 Celexa    0.11 Xanax      1.5 Valium

Feb 15 2016:   47.5 Lamictal   0.75 Celexa      0.0875 Xanax    1.42 Valium    

Now:                43                    0.625                 0.0775            1.3

 

I'm not a doctor. Any advice I give is just my civilian opinion.


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Posted 05 August 2014 - 12:28 PM

YES!!! Whenever I taper either the AD or anti anxiety I experience gas and bloating sometimes constipation and sometimes diarrhea. It can be very embarrassing and it is uncomfortable.

 

Someone on her not long ago talked about their regular brain and then their "belly brain" as it related to WD symptoms.

 

Rest assured that you are not alone!!

 

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Fall 1995 xanax, zoloft. switched to Serzone
1996- spring 2003serzone/ xanax/ lightbox.
b]Fall 2003- Fall 2004? Lexapro 10 mg. Light box /4 mg. xanax.[/b]
2004 - Fall of 2009 10 mg Lex, 150 mg Wellbutrin XL % 4 mg xanax
November 2009- Sept. 2011 10 mg lex., 300 Well. XL, 4 mg Xanax [/b
Sept.2012- July 2012 20 mg Lex 300 Well. XL, 4 mg Xanax
My mantra " go slow & with the flow "
3/2/13.. Began equal dosing 5 Xs /day xanax, while simultaneously incorporating a 2.5 % drop ( from 3.5 mg/day to 3.4 mg/day)

4/6/13 dropped from 300 mg. Wellbutrin XL to 150 mg. Difficult but DONE! Down to 3.3 mg xanax/ day / 6/10/13 3 mg xanax/day; 7/15/2013 2.88mg xanax/day.
10/ 1/2013...... 2.5 mg xanax… ( switched to tablets again) WOO HOO!!!!!! Holding here… cont. with Lexapro.
1/ 2/2014.. tapered to 18mg ( by weight) of a 26 mg ( by weight) pill of 20 mg tab. lexapro. goal is 13mg (by weight OR 10 mg by ingredient content) and STOPPED. Feeling very down with unbalanced, unpredictable WD symptoms.
1/2/2014- ??? Taking a brain-healing break from tapering anything after actively tapering something for 1.5 years. So… daily doses as of 2/2/2014: 18 mg by weight Lex, 150 mg Well. XL, 2.5 mg xanax, down from 26 mg by weight Lex., 300 mg well. XL, 4 mg xanax in August, 2012. I'll take it. :) 5/8/14 started equivalent dose liquid./ tabs. 5/13/14 1.5 % cut.

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 01:59 AM

What is your diet like? 

 

When I tried a lower carb and grain free diet my digestion of meat seemed to improve. Have you tried Betaine HCL? 


Off Lexapro since 3rd November 2011.

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 04:13 AM

Hi ndmaar,

 

Had the exact same thing caused by mirtazapine. Had it bad for a few months, then it slowly got better. Still not 100% and i need to watch what i eat. I take an enzyme supplement sometimes, especially when eating barbecue, large meals or hard digested foods.  

 

I found that i could digest somewhat long cooked meat and vegetable soup. Also found, like you, that digestive enzymes helped. For fat absorption you need also bile acid along with your digestive enzymes. I have tried several brands also. I think that there is a problem with stomach acid breaking down parts of the enzyme supplements. Taking more might help. Eating easily digested foods like long cooked meat soup that passes quicker through the stomach might bring more enzymes from your supplement through. (The enzymes is needed most after food passes the stomach.)

 

/Wulfgar


2010: Mirtazapine 30mg followed by Zopiclone 7.5 mg for sleep post surgery due to pain.
2012-> Tapering Mirtazapine and Zopiclone at different rates unsuccessfully.
2013: Hospitalized 10 days due to complete Insomnia. Forced back up to 45mg Mirtazapine, 7.5 mg Zopiclone and also Theralene 1 ml.
2013-03: Lab showed Vitamin D deficient. Found the vitamin d and insomnia connection. Supplementing vitamin d. Sleep improved by 1-2 hours
2013-04: Dropped mirtazapine to 30 due to severe side effects. Quit Theralene. Zopiclone 7.5.
2013-05 - 2013-11: Mirtazapine taper monthly 25 20 15 11 8 4 2.5 mg
2013-12 Holding M at 2.5. Need to taper Zopiclone due to daytime nausea and vomiting. Taper zopiclone 1/4 red every 5 d. Last Z 2013-12-19
2013-12-31 M:2.5. Reinstated Zopiclone 3.75 due to Insomnia
2014-01-06 M:2.5. Taper Z 1.9 ... 2014-01-14 M:2.5. Z 1 mg.
Jumped of Zopiclone 01-20. Jumped mirtazapine 02-16.

Theralene: 10mg 02-09. 8mg 03-09. 5mg 03-15. 4mg 03-24. 3mg 04-08. Jumped 04-21.
Zopiclone free for 251 days. Mirtazapine free for 224 days.


#82 Meimeiquest

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 06:22 AM

The paleo autoimmune diet has been a godsend for me. There is obviously something wrong with my gut, but I have never had IBS, GERD, or anything. On the diet, I have had mild candida die-off reactions, so I am trying to do candida/leaky gut treatment on my own. My brain fog and depression were virtually gone within 48 hrs of starting the diet. I am doing aloe vera extract, 1 digestive enzyme with each meal, and 20 billion count of probiotics/day, bone broth, and coconut oil which contains caprylic acid. I tried licorice root. But one capsule gave me energy....which means more would make me crazy. This started with realizing that my sensation of arrhythmia came after eating eggs, and my pdoc telling me that brain inflammation/autoimmune disease was something she had heard of but hadn't had time to study. Daytime thudding heart is gone now with the diet, and I also had to eliminate banana and avocado.

www.kellybroganmd.com talks a lot about diet and mental illness, I found the info on zonulin interesting. She writes that people who have psych symptoms in response to gluten often don't have GI symptoms. This is obviously different from gi problems from withdrawal.
1st round Prozac 1989/90, clear depression symptoms. 2nd round Prozac started 1999 when admitted to dr. I was tired. Prozac pooped out, switch to Cymbalta 3/2006. Diagnosed with bipolar disorder due to mania 6/2006--then I was taken abruptly off Cymbalta and didn't know I had SSRI withdrawal. Lots of meds for my intractable "bipolar" symptoms.
Zyprexa started about 9/06, mostly 5mg. Tapered 4/12 through12/29/12
Wellbutrin. XL 300 mg started 1/07, tapered 1/18/13 through 7/8/13
Oxazepam mostly continuously since 6/06, 30mg since 12/12, tapered 1.17.14 through 8.26.15
11/06 Lithium 600mg twice daily, 2.2.14 400mg TID DIY liquid, 2.12.14 1150mg, 3.2.14 1100mg, 3.18.14 1075mg, 4/14 updose to 1100mg, 6.1.14 900 mg capsules 7.8.14 810mg, 8.17.14 725mg, 8.24.24 700mg...10.22.14 487.5mg, 3.9.15 475mg, 4.1.15 462.5mg 4.21.15 450mg 8.11.15 375mg, 11.28.15 362.5mg, back to 375mg four days later, 3.4.16 updose to 475 (too much going on to risk trouble)
9/4/13 Toprol-XL 25mg daily for sudden hypertension, tapered 11.12.13 through 5.3.14, last 10 days or so switched to atenolol
7.4.14 Started Walsh Protocol
56 years old

#83 ndmaar

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 10:40 AM

Hey, guys. Many thanks for the comments. Aaargh, yesterday was tough, couldn't even reply.

Thanks, Phil. Probably trying Betaine HCL won't hurt.
 

There are many things on autoimmune paleo not allowed list which I also don't tolerate, but I don't feel like I'm having bad reactions to most of grains (except buckwheat). Dairy, eggs, some nuts and seeds - yes, they flare up autoimmune response immediately.

 

Wulfgar, it makes me afraid that in my case liver damage from mirtazapine could also contribute to this indigestion/malabsorption. My liver enzymes ALT and AST are 3x-2x higher than norm at least since April, and there are other liver problems' symptoms. And that puts me facing a serious dilemma.


Feb2012-Nov2012 - flupentixol 1mg

Nov2012-Jun2013 - amisulpride 50mg for 1mo, seroquel 300mg for 1mo, olanzapine 10mg for 4mo

Jun 2013: CT olanzapine

 

Jul 2013 - Oct 2013: mirtazapine 30mg

Nov 2013: 4 week taper down to 0.1mg

Nov 2013 - Feb 2014 - 0.1mg

Feb 2014: updosed to 1mg 

March 2014 - now: updosed to 5mg and holding

 

25 years old


#84 Karma

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 02:46 PM

Hi ndmaar

 

You need a full spectrum enzyme.  I use Solaray brand Super Digestaway in combination with HCL betaine.  I actually take 4 capsules of enzymes with breakfast and dinner and 3 enzymes with lunch.  I take one HCL with breakfast and another with dinner.  You may find that you need to take more if what you can get doesn't have quite the strength you are looking for.

 

Note that I have taken this much enzyme and HCL for several years.  It was originally recommended by a nutritionist and I check back with my nutritionist on a regular basis to see if this combination is still supporting my gut health.

 

I also take 50+ billion CFU's of probiotics daily to keep yeast population in check.

 

I've also had very good success taking silymarin to help my liver detox and reduce elevated liver enzymes.  You can also use milk thistle.  I have a severe rag weed allergy and so I find I have better success with the silymarin extract from milk thistle.

 

My understanding is that it is difficult to get powerful supplements in the EU due to codex.  You may find you have better success with something out of the US if you can legally order it.

 

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2007 @ 375 mg Effexor - 11/29/2011 - 43.75 mg Effexor (regular) & 1 mg Xanax & 200 mg Gabapentin
Xanax taper: 3/11/12 - 0.9375 mg, 3/25/12 - 0.875 mg, 4/6/12 - 0.8125 mg, 4/18/12 - 0.75 mg - hold
Effexor taper: 1/29/12 - 40.625 mg, 4/29/12 - 39.875 mg, 5/11/12 - Switched to liquid Effexor, 5/25/12 - 38 mg, 7/6/12 - 35 mg, 8/17/12 - 32 mg, 9/14/12 - 30 mg, 10/19/12 - 28 mg, 11/9/12 - 26 mg, 11/30/12 - 24 mg, 01/14/13 - 22 mg. 02/25/13 - 20.8 mg, 03/18/13 - 19.2 mg, 4/15/13 - 17.6 mg, 8/10/13 - 16.4 mg, 9/7/13 - 15.2 mg, 10/19/13 - 14 mg, 1/15/14 - 13.2 mg, 3/1/2014 - 12.6 mg, 5/4/14 - 12 mg, 8/1/14 - 11.4 mg, 8/29/14 - 10.8 mg; 10/14/14 - 10.2 mg; 12/15/14 - 10 mg, 1/11/15 - 9.5 mg, 2/8/15 - 9 mg, 3/21/15 - 8.5 mg, 5/1/15 - 8 mg, 6/9/15 - 7.5 mg, 7/8/15 - 7 mg, 8/22/15 - 6.5 mg, 10/4/15 - 6 mg; 1/1/16 - 5.6 mg; 2/6/16 - 5.2 mg; 4/9 - 4.8 mg; 7/7 4.5 mg; 10/7 4.25 mg; 11/4 4.0 mg; 11/25 3.8 mg; 4/24 3.6 mg

I am not a medical professional - this is not medical advice. My suggestions are based on personal experience, reading, observation and anecdotal information posted by other sufferers


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Posted 20 August 2014 - 06:14 AM

I have been on Cymbalta 20mg for about a year now. I was on 60mg for 6 years and over the last 2 years made it to 20mg with no issues. Once i started the taper from 20mg (I WONT RANT ABOUT THE FACT THAT 20MG IS THE SMALLEST DOES MADE). 

 

I have experienced the standard side effects such as nausea, extreme fatigue, headaches, brain zaps, etc. The only symptom i am finding unbearable are the stomach pains. It is a sharp pain directly above my abdomen. The pain is exacerbated when eating, but it is generally just a constant pain that i cannot seem to shake. I eat extremely healthy with very little sodium and fat as well as mostly vegetables and protein. This pain only comes when i decrease the additional 10 beads. Has anyone had this issue? I know that there is no magic cure for these withdrawal symptoms, and i have to push through if i want to get off of this toxic medication. Any ideas would be great

 

This pain is constant and not only when i eat.

 

Thanks 


I have been on Cymbalta 60mg for 6 years

August 2012 started decrease and made it to 20mg

Stayed on 20mg for a year (since Aug 2013)

Stable on 20mg with no side effects 

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June 2014 started removing beads from 20mg

Removed 5 every week but withdrawal was severe

moved to 10 every two weeks starting August 2014

 


#86 Lilu

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 07:11 PM

You can ask your GI doc to prescribe CREON, it's covered by insurance and is quite potent.


2005-2008 Effexor xr; 1/2008 Tapered 3 months, then quit.
7/2008-2009 Reinstated Effexor xr due to crying spells.
2009-3/2013 Switched to Pristiq 50 mg then 100 mg
3/2013 Switched to Lexapro 10mg. Cut down to 5 mg. CT for 2 weeks then reinstated for 6 weeks
8/2013-8/2014 Tapering Lexapro
11/2014 -8/2015: Developed severe insomnia, resumed using Ambien & Klonopin
12/2014-6/2015 Tried Ativan, Lunesta, Sonata, Trazadone, Seroquel, Rameron - Adverse Reactions
7/2015-1/2016 Reinstated Lexapro at 2 mg; Quit Klonopin CT suddenly paradoxical. Started Gabapentin 100-300 mg for 3 weeks. Developed severe lumbar jerking movements (myoclonus).Quit Gabapentin CT. AddedBaclofen 10mg-AM/20mg-PM - tapered off by 5/2016

8/2015 - Present:  Lexapro 5 mg 
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#87 ndmaar

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Posted 05 September 2014 - 02:16 AM

Yeah, I've already tried Creon. It did work, but not satisfactory. Super Enzymes by Now Foods work better somehow. I've also tried ox bile and betaine hcl. Though I suppose the main problem in my case could be bad intestinal flora, sometimes I see a sound improvement after probiotic pills, though not always. Coconut yogurt also works, but in a different way. Waiting for 66 billion CFU probiotic pills to arrive. 

Feb2012-Nov2012 - flupentixol 1mg

Nov2012-Jun2013 - amisulpride 50mg for 1mo, seroquel 300mg for 1mo, olanzapine 10mg for 4mo

Jun 2013: CT olanzapine

 

Jul 2013 - Oct 2013: mirtazapine 30mg

Nov 2013: 4 week taper down to 0.1mg

Nov 2013 - Feb 2014 - 0.1mg

Feb 2014: updosed to 1mg 

March 2014 - now: updosed to 5mg and holding

 

25 years old


#88 Lilu

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Posted 06 September 2014 - 08:08 AM

 

Yeah, I've already tried Creon. It did work, but not satisfactory. Super Enzymes by Now Foods work better somehow. I've also tried ox bile and betaine hcl. Though I suppose the main problem in my case could be bad intestinal flora, sometimes I see a sound improvement after probiotic pills, though not always. Coconut yogurt also works, but in a different way. Waiting for 66 billion CFU probiotic pills to arrive. 

 

Creon comes in various strengths.  Dosing strengths listed here: http://www.creon.com...DosingStrengths

 

It might have been a weak strength that you tried.  It is stronger than anything you can get retail and definitely stronger than the Super Enzymes by Now Foods.  I tried those, and they did nothing for me.  Also they oxidize and turn dark very fast, which Creon does not. However, they do not have HCl or Ox Bile which is maybe what you need.  But as for the enzyme potency Creon is stronger. I've compared the number of USP Units.

 

NOW Foods Super Enzymes vs. Creon

Protease 20,000 USP units  (Creon 9,500 - 114,000 USP)
Lipase 3,400 USP (Creon 3,000 - 36,000 USP)


2005-2008 Effexor xr; 1/2008 Tapered 3 months, then quit.
7/2008-2009 Reinstated Effexor xr due to crying spells.
2009-3/2013 Switched to Pristiq 50 mg then 100 mg
3/2013 Switched to Lexapro 10mg. Cut down to 5 mg. CT for 2 weeks then reinstated for 6 weeks
8/2013-8/2014 Tapering Lexapro
11/2014 -8/2015: Developed severe insomnia, resumed using Ambien & Klonopin
12/2014-6/2015 Tried Ativan, Lunesta, Sonata, Trazadone, Seroquel, Rameron - Adverse Reactions
7/2015-1/2016 Reinstated Lexapro at 2 mg; Quit Klonopin CT suddenly paradoxical. Started Gabapentin 100-300 mg for 3 weeks. Developed severe lumbar jerking movements (myoclonus).Quit Gabapentin CT. AddedBaclofen 10mg-AM/20mg-PM - tapered off by 5/2016

8/2015 - Present:  Lexapro 5 mg 
Intro page: http://survivinganti...rsened-by-meds/


#89 ToesInTheSand

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 09:44 AM

Since the day I RI the Lexapro (at half dose) my stomach has been a mess. For the first week, week and a half, I could barely eat anything. My stomach felt so empty, burn-y, nauseated. It has improved a lot from then, but I still have no appetite, it feels full, tight, and full of air. The mornings are the worst, as I seem to improve as the day goes on. It has been about four weeks since RI and on Tuesday I went up to 5mg from 3.75mg on the advice of my doctor. It seems to be helping slowly. But I still have a lot of trouble eating breakfast and have no appetite. The cortisol mornings have gotten a little better over time but I still wake up with no appetite and my stomach feeling full and uncomfortable. Could all of this be due to reinstatement?

<p>Lexapro taper from 7.5mg to 5mg for one week to 2.5mg for one to 2.5mg every other day for one week. Original dose of Lexapro was 10mg. On that for a few years,then cut back to 7.5 with no effects. In total, on Lexapro for about 7 years. Never did much to help with my panic disorder. Cross-tapered with Zoloft 12.5mg for one week, 25mg for one week. Stopped after ten days due to sexual side effects. Off Lexapro completely since end of July 2014.

Update: Aug. 20, 2014 - restarted Lexapro at 3.75mg due to intolerable withdrawal symptoms.

Update: Sept. 16, 2014 - increased Lexapro to 5mg on advice of GP.

Update: Jan. 13, 2015 - requesting Rx for Liquid Lexapro from pdoc on Friday to start taper. Horrible side effects from Lexapro since going back on. Haven't resolved so need to come off.


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Posted 19 September 2014 - 09:49 AM

Forgot to add - I did have a blood test for h.pylori and it was negative.

<p>Lexapro taper from 7.5mg to 5mg for one week to 2.5mg for one to 2.5mg every other day for one week. Original dose of Lexapro was 10mg. On that for a few years,then cut back to 7.5 with no effects. In total, on Lexapro for about 7 years. Never did much to help with my panic disorder. Cross-tapered with Zoloft 12.5mg for one week, 25mg for one week. Stopped after ten days due to sexual side effects. Off Lexapro completely since end of July 2014.

Update: Aug. 20, 2014 - restarted Lexapro at 3.75mg due to intolerable withdrawal symptoms.

Update: Sept. 16, 2014 - increased Lexapro to 5mg on advice of GP.

Update: Jan. 13, 2015 - requesting Rx for Liquid Lexapro from pdoc on Friday to start taper. Horrible side effects from Lexapro since going back on. Haven't resolved so need to come off.


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Posted 13 October 2014 - 08:00 PM

Same thing happened to me when I reinstated - complete loss of appetite, major increase in palpitations and anxiety, major digestive issues, ZERO sleep, mornings were HORRIFIC with things improving as the day went on. Had constant crying jags, couldn't tolerate loud noises or music. Was unable to reinstate. Wish I never had stopped. Biggest mistake EVER.


Short term low dose Klonopin use back in 2004
Acute, protracted withdrawal after discontinuing
Began Lexapro in 2005 to ease Benzo withdrawal
Took 2 years to stabilize
Rapid taper from Lexapro in July/August 2012
Return of anxiety, insomnia and cardiac issues
Failed reinstatement early August 2012
Acute withdrawal for 9 months; intermittent symptoms for another 6

Relief on February 9, 2014 after addition of Taurine

Almost complete remission of symptoms w/addition of 12.5mg Atenolol daily


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Posted 13 October 2014 - 08:10 PM

I'm sorry to hear you had so much trouble! It's nice to know I'm not alone, though. The cortisol mornings have improved a lot. I put towels over my windows to block the morning light and started sleeping with a sleep mask, though I've since stopped using the mask. I'm not waking up super early and the morning anxiety has lessened. My stomach has gotten better, though still not 100%,, but my IBS has morphed and is causing me more issues. I'm pretty convinced that was caused by the withdrawal and reinstatement.


<p>Lexapro taper from 7.5mg to 5mg for one week to 2.5mg for one to 2.5mg every other day for one week. Original dose of Lexapro was 10mg. On that for a few years,then cut back to 7.5 with no effects. In total, on Lexapro for about 7 years. Never did much to help with my panic disorder. Cross-tapered with Zoloft 12.5mg for one week, 25mg for one week. Stopped after ten days due to sexual side effects. Off Lexapro completely since end of July 2014.

Update: Aug. 20, 2014 - restarted Lexapro at 3.75mg due to intolerable withdrawal symptoms.

Update: Sept. 16, 2014 - increased Lexapro to 5mg on advice of GP.

Update: Jan. 13, 2015 - requesting Rx for Liquid Lexapro from pdoc on Friday to start taper. Horrible side effects from Lexapro since going back on. Haven't resolved so need to come off.


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Posted 28 October 2014 - 10:22 PM

Merged similar topics.


I'm not a doctor.  My comments are not medical advise. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I've learned. Please discuss your situation with a medical practitioner who has knowledge of tapering and withdrawal...if you are lucky enough to find one.

 

My Introduction Thread

 

Full Drug and Withdrawal History

 

Brief Summary

Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety)

Xanax PRN

Various other drugs over the years for side effects

2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010

Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal

DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms

Failed reinstatement of Lexapro and trial of Prozac (became suicidal)

May 2013 Found SA, learned about withdrawal, stopped taking drugs...healing begins.

Protracted withdrawal, with a very sensitized nervous system, slowly recovering as time passes animal25.gif

 

Supplements which seem to help:  High doses of Vitamin C, Magnesium, Garlic and Ginger.  Taurine, Vit D3, L-Theanine and Inositol. I'm one of the rare people who react badly to fish oil.

 

June 2016 - Started daily juicing, mostly vegetables and lots of greens.

 

VIDEO: Where did the chemical imbalance theory come from?



VIDEO: How are psychiatric diagnoses made?



VIDEO: Why do psychiatric drugs have withdrawal syndromes?



VIDEO: Can psychiatric drugs cause long-lasting negative effects?

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 04:49 PM

I am down to 14 items I can eat without a reaction :-/ the only protein I can tolerate is red meat or eggs (I know, great for my cholesterol) but, it's been this way about a month, and I'm hoping it will change soon. Having a hard time with constipation. Big time.
Just for entertainment:
Things I can eat
Red meat
Eggs
Cashews
Almonds
Apples
Squash
Millet
Zucchini
Pineapple
Peas
Cucumber
Grapes
Ok maybe it's 12
2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor.....
5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses.

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Posted 06 January 2015 - 09:49 AM

Since I left paroxetine on October, I start having this random diarrhea, several times a week or even a day. I’ve lost a few pounds too.

Now my psychiatrist put me on sertraline. I told him about the diarrhea but he says sertraline has nothing to do with it, period. He also says that it’s impossible for a withdrawal to last longer than a few weeks, so he told me that leaving paroxetine cannot be the cause of my current diarrhea.

Any suggestions?

Thank You


1999: Depression diagnosed at 15 years old. Fluoxetine 20mg for a month. Stopped it all from one day to another.

2003: OCD diagnosed. Clomipramine 75mg and Clonazepam 1mg. Toke the medication for two weeks and then left it because of horrible Clomipramine side effects.

2004: appendicitis surgery. Diazepam 10mg for a month in order to relax and sleep.

2008: decided to treat OCD again. Clomipramine 75mg for three months with psychological therapy. Stopped Clomipramine in a week reducing the dose to half.

2010: started to feel bad again. Paroxetine 20mg and Clonazepam 1mg as SOS when feeling overwhelmed. Stopped paroxetine after 8 months, again in one week reducing the dose to half.

2012 mar-may: big crisis. Tried Paroxetine for a few days, then switched to Fluoxetine for a month. Pregabalin 250mg for sleeping with no effect at all. Quetapine 75mg. Hell on earth with this combination. Left it all.

2012 after may: went back to Paroxetine 20mg and Clonazepam 1mb as SOS. Stayed on this for 2 years until a few weeks ago, when I decided to take half the dose.

2014 oct: problem sleeping. Zolpidem 10mg at night. Currently off SSRI.

2015 jan: Sertraline 50mg - clonazepam 2mg and zolpidem 10mg for sleeping.


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Posted 06 January 2015 - 09:53 AM

When I've had it, it's been part of my autonomic nervous system being way too active on the sympathetic side, which WD can definitely cause.
1st round Prozac 1989/90, clear depression symptoms. 2nd round Prozac started 1999 when admitted to dr. I was tired. Prozac pooped out, switch to Cymbalta 3/2006. Diagnosed with bipolar disorder due to mania 6/2006--then I was taken abruptly off Cymbalta and didn't know I had SSRI withdrawal. Lots of meds for my intractable "bipolar" symptoms.
Zyprexa started about 9/06, mostly 5mg. Tapered 4/12 through12/29/12
Wellbutrin. XL 300 mg started 1/07, tapered 1/18/13 through 7/8/13
Oxazepam mostly continuously since 6/06, 30mg since 12/12, tapered 1.17.14 through 8.26.15
11/06 Lithium 600mg twice daily, 2.2.14 400mg TID DIY liquid, 2.12.14 1150mg, 3.2.14 1100mg, 3.18.14 1075mg, 4/14 updose to 1100mg, 6.1.14 900 mg capsules 7.8.14 810mg, 8.17.14 725mg, 8.24.24 700mg...10.22.14 487.5mg, 3.9.15 475mg, 4.1.15 462.5mg 4.21.15 450mg 8.11.15 375mg, 11.28.15 362.5mg, back to 375mg four days later, 3.4.16 updose to 475 (too much going on to risk trouble)
9/4/13 Toprol-XL 25mg daily for sudden hypertension, tapered 11.12.13 through 5.3.14, last 10 days or so switched to atenolol
7.4.14 Started Walsh Protocol
56 years old

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Posted 06 January 2015 - 09:53 AM

What is your pulse rate when you are in that mode?
1st round Prozac 1989/90, clear depression symptoms. 2nd round Prozac started 1999 when admitted to dr. I was tired. Prozac pooped out, switch to Cymbalta 3/2006. Diagnosed with bipolar disorder due to mania 6/2006--then I was taken abruptly off Cymbalta and didn't know I had SSRI withdrawal. Lots of meds for my intractable "bipolar" symptoms.
Zyprexa started about 9/06, mostly 5mg. Tapered 4/12 through12/29/12
Wellbutrin. XL 300 mg started 1/07, tapered 1/18/13 through 7/8/13
Oxazepam mostly continuously since 6/06, 30mg since 12/12, tapered 1.17.14 through 8.26.15
11/06 Lithium 600mg twice daily, 2.2.14 400mg TID DIY liquid, 2.12.14 1150mg, 3.2.14 1100mg, 3.18.14 1075mg, 4/14 updose to 1100mg, 6.1.14 900 mg capsules 7.8.14 810mg, 8.17.14 725mg, 8.24.24 700mg...10.22.14 487.5mg, 3.9.15 475mg, 4.1.15 462.5mg 4.21.15 450mg 8.11.15 375mg, 11.28.15 362.5mg, back to 375mg four days later, 3.4.16 updose to 475 (too much going on to risk trouble)
9/4/13 Toprol-XL 25mg daily for sudden hypertension, tapered 11.12.13 through 5.3.14, last 10 days or so switched to atenolol
7.4.14 Started Walsh Protocol
56 years old

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Posted 06 January 2015 - 01:25 PM

Pulse rate is normal, I just can’t seem to get rid of this diarrhea.

I want to get some labs to see if my liver and general blood values are ok. Will try to get an appointment with a GI professional tomorrow.


1999: Depression diagnosed at 15 years old. Fluoxetine 20mg for a month. Stopped it all from one day to another.

2003: OCD diagnosed. Clomipramine 75mg and Clonazepam 1mg. Toke the medication for two weeks and then left it because of horrible Clomipramine side effects.

2004: appendicitis surgery. Diazepam 10mg for a month in order to relax and sleep.

2008: decided to treat OCD again. Clomipramine 75mg for three months with psychological therapy. Stopped Clomipramine in a week reducing the dose to half.

2010: started to feel bad again. Paroxetine 20mg and Clonazepam 1mg as SOS when feeling overwhelmed. Stopped paroxetine after 8 months, again in one week reducing the dose to half.

2012 mar-may: big crisis. Tried Paroxetine for a few days, then switched to Fluoxetine for a month. Pregabalin 250mg for sleeping with no effect at all. Quetapine 75mg. Hell on earth with this combination. Left it all.

2012 after may: went back to Paroxetine 20mg and Clonazepam 1mb as SOS. Stayed on this for 2 years until a few weeks ago, when I decided to take half the dose.

2014 oct: problem sleeping. Zolpidem 10mg at night. Currently off SSRI.

2015 jan: Sertraline 50mg - clonazepam 2mg and zolpidem 10mg for sleeping.


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Posted 07 January 2015 - 08:55 AM

When I stopped effexor I developed ibs type symptoms. I hear it has something to do with serotonin level. When I started escitalopram, the diarrhea has stopped. But I am getting it back now since I have started decreasing antidepressant. You can google serotonin and diarrhea...
So far I have no remedy for this. I have to avoid diary products, most of veg...I have to be very careful with suplements.
In times I had to use loperamide daily...

In the beginning I went to GP and they assumed I had pancreatic problems and put me on pancreatic enzymes.
Later on I was treated for leaky gut condition by naturopath...but the problem never stopped completely...
I strongly think that it has a lot to do with serotonin level...

I was also on zolpidem recently...i did not like what I read about it on Wikipedia...

I wish I had some answers for you. I can only sympathize...

- Started various antidepresants in 1983 (doxepin, amitriptiline, anafranil), always stopped abruptly and then reintroduced; Long term use of benzos since 1983, on and off, in times prolonged use
- 2012 re-started Doxepin 75mg, evening. Atenolol 25mg, twice a day (both as a migraine prevention); Low dose of HRT (Sandrena gel +  Utrogestan 100mg)- evening; Nasal spray Otrivine for about 3 years- evening and morning (Used to abuse nasal spray for years). PPI Omeprazole 40mg-evening

- 24.10.2014- Started escitalopram-first 5mg and then 10mg; 5.01.2015- Escitalopram- 2.5mg (I had an adverse response to escitalopram and doxepin; hence I was decreasing escitalopram faster)

- June 2015- decreased Doxepin from 75mg to 50mg; 28 November- intentional over-dose (doxepin- 250mg). 1-2 April- over-dose 350mg, 17.07.2016 Doxepin 150mg- intentional over-dose(Tendency to overdose when stressed out...)

- 22.07.2016- reduced by 1%, 29.07- reduced by 2%, 2.08- reduced by 3%, 9.08- reduced by 4%. Holding for 5 weeks

- 13.09- reduced by 5%, 20.09- reduced by 6%, 27.09.2016 reduced by 7% , 4.10- reduced by 8% = 2.3mg. Holding for 5 weeks

- 14.11- reduced by 9%, 22.11- reduced by 10% = 2.25mg long holding

​- 06.04.2017- REDUCED by 2% since the last dose = 2.2mg

-20.12. 2016- changed my diet and supplements protocol; Ionic Liquid Iron twice 100ml, Liquid Zynk- twice- 50ml, MegaMag Liquid- evening 100ml, Curcumin 600mg x 3 a day Burdock Root + Epsom Baths. Changed diet to Protein one + Veg; Avoiding carbs. Protein Shake (Pure Power Protein Powder by Mercola) + Supergreens + Coconut Oils, Himalayan Salt with lemon


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Posted 07 January 2015 - 08:58 AM

When I've had it, it's been part of my autonomic nervous system being way too active on the sympathetic side, which WD can definitely cause.


I can definitely agree with autonimic nervous systen being way too active...i guess WD can trigger a typical "fight-flight-freeze" response. Some people get diarrhea in difficult, stressful situations...

- Started various antidepresants in 1983 (doxepin, amitriptiline, anafranil), always stopped abruptly and then reintroduced; Long term use of benzos since 1983, on and off, in times prolonged use
- 2012 re-started Doxepin 75mg, evening. Atenolol 25mg, twice a day (both as a migraine prevention); Low dose of HRT (Sandrena gel +  Utrogestan 100mg)- evening; Nasal spray Otrivine for about 3 years- evening and morning (Used to abuse nasal spray for years). PPI Omeprazole 40mg-evening

- 24.10.2014- Started escitalopram-first 5mg and then 10mg; 5.01.2015- Escitalopram- 2.5mg (I had an adverse response to escitalopram and doxepin; hence I was decreasing escitalopram faster)

- June 2015- decreased Doxepin from 75mg to 50mg; 28 November- intentional over-dose (doxepin- 250mg). 1-2 April- over-dose 350mg, 17.07.2016 Doxepin 150mg- intentional over-dose(Tendency to overdose when stressed out...)

- 22.07.2016- reduced by 1%, 29.07- reduced by 2%, 2.08- reduced by 3%, 9.08- reduced by 4%. Holding for 5 weeks

- 13.09- reduced by 5%, 20.09- reduced by 6%, 27.09.2016 reduced by 7% , 4.10- reduced by 8% = 2.3mg. Holding for 5 weeks

- 14.11- reduced by 9%, 22.11- reduced by 10% = 2.25mg long holding

​- 06.04.2017- REDUCED by 2% since the last dose = 2.2mg

-20.12. 2016- changed my diet and supplements protocol; Ionic Liquid Iron twice 100ml, Liquid Zynk- twice- 50ml, MegaMag Liquid- evening 100ml, Curcumin 600mg x 3 a day Burdock Root + Epsom Baths. Changed diet to Protein one + Veg; Avoiding carbs. Protein Shake (Pure Power Protein Powder by Mercola) + Supergreens + Coconut Oils, Himalayan Salt with lemon


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Posted 07 January 2015 - 12:09 PM

Clayface. When did you start the sertraline?...that is zoloft and another nasty ssri . I wouldnt take it you are opening the door to another disaster imo. You are throwing away 3 months ssri drug freeness.

 

Your pdoc is a clueless idiot.

 

There is a major paradigm shift that we all have to make and some like myself are slower at making it than others and its this contrary to how we have been brought up and contrary to what society tells us and contrary to oaths made by people with letters after their name...doctors are very dangerous people and not to be trusted. These are not medicines being peddled they are potent brain altering addictive poisons. period.

Diarrhea is normal in wdl and it will go on for many many months. Ssri wdl can last for months /years that is a reality....not weeks as you have been told.

Check out post #14 in here

http://survivinganti...climbs-onboard/


2000 amitryptaline, nortriptaline venlafaxine clonazepam for  arm pain from keyboard use, told I had a chemical imbalance it would fix my arm was just a matter of finding the right med for me not informed of the nature of these drugs assured safe and not addictive, CT off Effexor after being told to double the dose on reporting adverse effects...later ..uncharacteristic psych panic tearful presented to doctor to get answers. Given paroxetine no questions asked 'safe and not addictive' next please.2001-2010 paroxetine (paxil) 2 failed attempts to quit, a learned helplessness set in. Feb 10 - Sept 10,  8 month clueless taper, hell. Doc said I had underlying depression .. I said that's not right' then found online support group and the truth!...overcome with inconceivable humiliation and outrage. 28 Sept 10 drug free ...  daily psych and emotional torture beginning in the waking hours of the morning receding somewhat in the evening only to start up again the next day. 28 Sept 12 (24 months) Stabilizing  (What an indescribable unimaginable non-functional nightmare). sleep issues start up at 3 yrs  waking daily at 2am -4.30am), April 2016 return to sport for the first time since drug free, Sept 16 return to work on casual basis.  28 Sept 16 (6yrs drug free), still cant sleep with any regularity, pssd continues no sign of improvement, still feel Rip van Winkle-ish, brain fog still improving, psoriasis concerns.

 

"It is unsafe for people who suffer from something that could be treated with an ssri to consult a psychiatrist." Gotzshe 2015. [ I think Gotzsche could have easily meant to say 'to consult anyone with prescribing privileges']. "Going to a psychiatrist is one of the most dangerous actions a person can take." Breggin

 

“Paroxetine is not safe, it is not effective and it meets every known definition of addictive.” McLaren, N, (2016) 'Psychiatry as bullsh*t’ p55..."Psychiatry is stuffed full of 'deep nonsense' better known as bullsh*t." McLaren 2016

 

"Within the first week of when you go on an antidepressant you may have a sexual dysfunction, it can go on forever, often only appearing when you go off the drug ...its extraordinarily common" Healy 2015

 

See  my intro post #451 for the xanax back story and for a CV -GSKs.  Come on guys get taperwise see a TaperMe Schedule

 For a staggeringly shocking 'prozac back story' see the truth post #523

 

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Posted 07 January 2015 - 12:48 PM

It was explained to me that: The digestive issues are from the serotonin, too -- an overabundance of it. The majority of serotonin in the body is in the entochromaffin cells your GI tract. This controls intestinal movement.
And I trust this comment, as it comes from the person who helped me to stop effexor...but I did not realise this and unfortunately restarted using medication...

- Started various antidepresants in 1983 (doxepin, amitriptiline, anafranil), always stopped abruptly and then reintroduced; Long term use of benzos since 1983, on and off, in times prolonged use
- 2012 re-started Doxepin 75mg, evening. Atenolol 25mg, twice a day (both as a migraine prevention); Low dose of HRT (Sandrena gel +  Utrogestan 100mg)- evening; Nasal spray Otrivine for about 3 years- evening and morning (Used to abuse nasal spray for years). PPI Omeprazole 40mg-evening

- 24.10.2014- Started escitalopram-first 5mg and then 10mg; 5.01.2015- Escitalopram- 2.5mg (I had an adverse response to escitalopram and doxepin; hence I was decreasing escitalopram faster)

- June 2015- decreased Doxepin from 75mg to 50mg; 28 November- intentional over-dose (doxepin- 250mg). 1-2 April- over-dose 350mg, 17.07.2016 Doxepin 150mg- intentional over-dose(Tendency to overdose when stressed out...)

- 22.07.2016- reduced by 1%, 29.07- reduced by 2%, 2.08- reduced by 3%, 9.08- reduced by 4%. Holding for 5 weeks

- 13.09- reduced by 5%, 20.09- reduced by 6%, 27.09.2016 reduced by 7% , 4.10- reduced by 8% = 2.3mg. Holding for 5 weeks

- 14.11- reduced by 9%, 22.11- reduced by 10% = 2.25mg long holding

​- 06.04.2017- REDUCED by 2% since the last dose = 2.2mg

-20.12. 2016- changed my diet and supplements protocol; Ionic Liquid Iron twice 100ml, Liquid Zynk- twice- 50ml, MegaMag Liquid- evening 100ml, Curcumin 600mg x 3 a day Burdock Root + Epsom Baths. Changed diet to Protein one + Veg; Avoiding carbs. Protein Shake (Pure Power Protein Powder by Mercola) + Supergreens + Coconut Oils, Himalayan Salt with lemon


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Posted 07 January 2015 - 07:25 PM

I started the sertraline almost a month ago.

I have to check with my psychiatrist on Monday to see what to do with it. He believed it would be better for my OCD than paroxetine, that’s why he prescribed it.

The thing is, I know here everybody hates SSRI. But I have to recognize that I have felt better when I was taking paroxetine. I believed it helped with my OCD symptoms, while on it I slept better and I had two years of full life with my studies, job and even vacations. I’ve never felt emotionally disconnected or any other issue most people tend to comment. Of course it was not a panacea, I had my obsessive days but I was able to cope with it.

The problem started when I left paroxetine on October.

I believe my psychiatrist is true trying to help me. Although he doesn’t believe on withdrawal lasting that long, he expects me to be able to live without medication when my mindfulness abilities has been properly trained. He’s a member of a contextual therapies center (third wave or ACT). I’m meditating every day and going to a group every Tuesday.

If I would have known about mindfulness when I started this journey, perhaps everything would have been different.

The point is that in need to be able to function. Sertraline doesn’t seem to be doing the trick, and I’m not willing to spend months with this bad sleep and the diarrhea issue. If I have to take paroxetine again to stop these symptoms I will do it…

Also, since I left paroxetine I lost about 10 pounds. That’s not very nice…

I’m studying psychology and I’m trying to figure out some things… in this forum, I presume people believe in psychiatric illnesses but not on psychiatric medications… am I right?

I say it because a few people responded about OCD.

Thank you.


1999: Depression diagnosed at 15 years old. Fluoxetine 20mg for a month. Stopped it all from one day to another.

2003: OCD diagnosed. Clomipramine 75mg and Clonazepam 1mg. Toke the medication for two weeks and then left it because of horrible Clomipramine side effects.

2004: appendicitis surgery. Diazepam 10mg for a month in order to relax and sleep.

2008: decided to treat OCD again. Clomipramine 75mg for three months with psychological therapy. Stopped Clomipramine in a week reducing the dose to half.

2010: started to feel bad again. Paroxetine 20mg and Clonazepam 1mg as SOS when feeling overwhelmed. Stopped paroxetine after 8 months, again in one week reducing the dose to half.

2012 mar-may: big crisis. Tried Paroxetine for a few days, then switched to Fluoxetine for a month. Pregabalin 250mg for sleeping with no effect at all. Quetapine 75mg. Hell on earth with this combination. Left it all.

2012 after may: went back to Paroxetine 20mg and Clonazepam 1mb as SOS. Stayed on this for 2 years until a few weeks ago, when I decided to take half the dose.

2014 oct: problem sleeping. Zolpidem 10mg at night. Currently off SSRI.

2015 jan: Sertraline 50mg - clonazepam 2mg and zolpidem 10mg for sleeping.


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Posted 07 January 2015 - 08:14 PM

I have this problem too. More seriously since I am on a smallish dose. I think it's part of the high energy/anxiety/revving neuro system we have. I just take an Imodium here and there when it's really bad. I also have lost weight. Not just because of diarrhea, but also because if super high energy and less feeling sedated.
1998- Began taking 20 mg. of Paxil for homesickness 2001-CT and crash/hospitalized 1 week for anxiety. Tried quitting, changing to other ADs, gave up. 2014 -Weaned @ 10% every 4 weeks. Latest 5-14 11.7 mg., 6-14 10.5 mg., 8-21 9.5 mg., 9-17 7.7 mg.,10-14 6.9 mg., 11-14 6.2 mg., 12-14 5.6 mg., 1-15 5.0 mg. 2-15 4.5 mg. (miscalculated may actually be 3.3), up-dosed to 3.7 3-17-15. Hydroxyzine HCl 25 mg. as needed (antihistamine) for anxiety.

#105 Muddles

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 09:16 AM

I've had this for months. It's no big deal but I've always wondered what it is. Lately it's been worse - like a firework display going off in there, especially when my cortisol is high. Anybody have any idea?
2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription.
Severe adverse reaction
Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on.
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April 12mg
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June 10th - 10mg
July 8th - 9mg
September - 0mg

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Posted 12 January 2015 - 10:06 AM

As I have similar problem, I have been looking for solutions, and ordered a book on a diet called FODMAP.

The term FODMAP is an acronym, deriving from "Fermentable, Oligo-, Di-, Mono-saccharides And Polyols." These carbohydrates are commonly found in the modern western diet. The restriction of these FODMAPs from the diet has been found to have a beneficial effect for sufferers of irritable bowel syndrome and other functional gastrointestinal disorders (FGID). The low FODMAP diet was developed at Monash University in Melbourne by Peter Gibson and Susan Shepherd.Since its development, the diet has been studied for its efficacy for individuals with FGID and is now considered beneficial to be commonly recommended for individuals with FGID.

Poor absorption of most FODMAP carbohydrates is common to everyone. Any FODMAPs that are not absorbed in the small intestine pass into the large intestine, where bacteria ferment them. The resultant production of gas potentially results in bloating and flatulence. Most individuals do not suffer significant symptoms but some may suffer the symptoms of IBS. Restriction of FODMAP intake in the latter group has been found to result in improvement of symptoms.

Fructose malabsorption and lactose intolerance may produce IBS symptoms through the same mechanism but, unlike with other FODMAPs, poor absorption is found only in a minority of people. Many who benefit from a low FODMAP diet need not restrict fructose or lactose. It is possible to identify these two conditions with hydrogen and methane breath testing and thus eliminate the necessity for dietary compliance if possible.

- Started various antidepresants in 1983 (doxepin, amitriptiline, anafranil), always stopped abruptly and then reintroduced; Long term use of benzos since 1983, on and off, in times prolonged use
- 2012 re-started Doxepin 75mg, evening. Atenolol 25mg, twice a day (both as a migraine prevention); Low dose of HRT (Sandrena gel +  Utrogestan 100mg)- evening; Nasal spray Otrivine for about 3 years- evening and morning (Used to abuse nasal spray for years). PPI Omeprazole 40mg-evening

- 24.10.2014- Started escitalopram-first 5mg and then 10mg; 5.01.2015- Escitalopram- 2.5mg (I had an adverse response to escitalopram and doxepin; hence I was decreasing escitalopram faster)

- June 2015- decreased Doxepin from 75mg to 50mg; 28 November- intentional over-dose (doxepin- 250mg). 1-2 April- over-dose 350mg, 17.07.2016 Doxepin 150mg- intentional over-dose(Tendency to overdose when stressed out...)

- 22.07.2016- reduced by 1%, 29.07- reduced by 2%, 2.08- reduced by 3%, 9.08- reduced by 4%. Holding for 5 weeks

- 13.09- reduced by 5%, 20.09- reduced by 6%, 27.09.2016 reduced by 7% , 4.10- reduced by 8% = 2.3mg. Holding for 5 weeks

- 14.11- reduced by 9%, 22.11- reduced by 10% = 2.25mg long holding

​- 06.04.2017- REDUCED by 2% since the last dose = 2.2mg

-20.12. 2016- changed my diet and supplements protocol; Ionic Liquid Iron twice 100ml, Liquid Zynk- twice- 50ml, MegaMag Liquid- evening 100ml, Curcumin 600mg x 3 a day Burdock Root + Epsom Baths. Changed diet to Protein one + Veg; Avoiding carbs. Protein Shake (Pure Power Protein Powder by Mercola) + Supergreens + Coconut Oils, Himalayan Salt with lemon


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Posted 02 February 2015 - 10:38 AM

My most troublesome symptom is GERD. I never had it until SSRI withdrawal. It's really bad for me. I try to use natural remedies to keep it at bay or cure it but it's not working consistently. I have a hard time with taking PPIs and H2 blockers. I don't feel very good after taking them although the GERD does get better. I was wondering if others had bad GERD during withdrawal and if it eventually went away for them. It makes me not want to eat anything. I eat very bland as it is.
I started out on zoloft 50 mg or 20mg (can't remember at that point) and was on it for a few months then decided I didn't want to take it because of the side effects so I cold turkey'd it and then was miserable and reinstated and all my symptoms went away and I felt normal. Stayed on it for a while tried lexapro 5mg for a month or two instead to see if I had less side effects. Then switched back to zoloft 20mg I think and weaned down to 6mg and jumped off too soon because it supposedly wasn't a "therapeutic dose" and was told it would be ok. Then I was going through withdrawal again so I reinstated again after about a month I switched to prozac because it's easier to wean off of supposedly. Weaned off over 9 month from 8mg Prozac. Then two months after stopping it on September 2, 2014. I went into withdrawal.

18 months off as of March 2, 2016

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Posted 02 February 2015 - 10:40 AM

I'm almost at the point of considering surgery to fix it. But u how there are risks with that too...
I started out on zoloft 50 mg or 20mg (can't remember at that point) and was on it for a few months then decided I didn't want to take it because of the side effects so I cold turkey'd it and then was miserable and reinstated and all my symptoms went away and I felt normal. Stayed on it for a while tried lexapro 5mg for a month or two instead to see if I had less side effects. Then switched back to zoloft 20mg I think and weaned down to 6mg and jumped off too soon because it supposedly wasn't a "therapeutic dose" and was told it would be ok. Then I was going through withdrawal again so I reinstated again after about a month I switched to prozac because it's easier to wean off of supposedly. Weaned off over 9 month from 8mg Prozac. Then two months after stopping it on September 2, 2014. I went into withdrawal.

18 months off as of March 2, 2016