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#253 grandmaD

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Posted 19 September 2016 - 05:42 PM

Nivek:

I know it is horrible.   I have also had the bloating and the "full stomach" feeling (similar to your description of food not digesting) and pain which lasted for 3 years.  I ended up having my gall bladder out, but I still get the gutsache and symptoms but not as bad, so I will never know if it was just w/d or the gall.  Many of my symptoms improved during year 4.  Going on an IBS diet helped me a bit and eating smaller meals.  I also have inflammation of the oesophagus.  considering the gall was also inflamed, these could also be w/d symptoms?  I also lost a lot of weight during those 4 years.

 

 

Frogie:

I am sorry I have no answers for your nausea! Like you, I tried ginger, peppermint, etc. etc but nothing really helped.

 

I read a post a long time ago from someone who said pregnant women put up with nausea, so she thought she was no worse off than them and put up with it for 9 months.  I had nausea for a whole year day in and day out and another year I had it for 9 months.  It disappeared in year 4 of my tapering and I have never forgotten it and SO ENJOY EATING again!  You will too, put up with it and be patient.  Try different things.  I ate a lot of things that are easily digested, like soup and porridges (millet is supposed to be easily digested) and bananas.  Because I felt sick I didn't want to eat and I got used to it, believe it or not!  My biggest problem was having to cook for my husband, when I didn't want to eat.  Oh, and I did find eating small portions every 2-3 hours helped.  I also went on an IBS diet that helped.  I think you just have to try different things and find what works for you with a lot of patience and acceptance thrown in and the hope it doesn't last for years!


1995                20mg Aropax/Paxil for pain.  2000-2004 - Years of tapering and up-dosing (fast) (resultant suffering)

2004-2007       Daily 20mg

2008                Switching to Endep, Lexapro and then Esipram (hell!)

2009                20mg Aropax.  Tried skipping doses for a year (more hell!)

                        2010                10mg.  10% taper.  Lasted 4 months. Crashed again

2011                5% taper. 9mg-7mg (hell got even worse!)

2012                2.5% taper.  6.6mg – 5.6mg (worser still & unbearable)

2013                5% taper.  Big mistake.  5.5mg – 4.6mg  (even worserer)

2014                2.5% taper.  4.9mg – 4.5mg (worst year ever for w/d by far, plus gall surgery-developed arrythmia

2015                2.5% taper.  4.4mg - 4.0mg (gall surgery/anaesthetic continued to make things even worse)

2016                2.5% taper.  3.9mg  Feb 3.8   Mar 3.7  May 3.6   Jul 3.5 (finally imp. from gall surgery)

2017                2.5% taper.  Jan 3.4;   Mar 3.35;  Apr 3.3


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Posted 04 November 2016 - 12:30 PM

Has anyone found relief from long lasting nausea?

 

I'm weaning off clonazapam, and nausea is one of my worst symptoms. I also had nausea during the time I was having intense anxiety for which the benzo was prescribed....so apparently my GI system gets easily affected when my nervous system goes haywire. I had terrible nausea during my pregnancies and took Zofran (ondansetron) which took the edge off. I get nausea from about 3am-3pm every day and it can be debilitating. I've lost 20 pounds and feel miserable. I hate eating. I think I could taper faster, but this symptom makes my days feel unbearable.

 

It's worst in the morning, if I can get past breakfast, then lunch...it lets up a bit in the afternoon/evenings (lately, not as much).

 

I've tried peppermint tea (kinda helps), ginger tea and capsules (don't notice much), the acupressure wrist bands (maybe helps a bit), eating little bits constantly throughout the day (helps), aromatherapy (eh...), acupuncture (not sure, today, definitely not), and breathing into a paper bag (apparently getting more CO2 can help...lets up for about 5-10m after).

 

I have been hesitant to try Zofran because 1) I feel like I would probably need to take it daily and i don't really want to add another med when I feel this crappy, and 2) when I look up interactions online, Buspar is one that is risk for developing serotonin syndrome, but when I asked my pharmacist, he looked it up and said it would be fine to take it. Anyone had luck with trying it? I know it's contraindicated with some ADs, and other psych meds.


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Clonazepam (0:5mgx1 daily): Sept 30-present 2016 (titrated down 25% per 5 days after illness scare passed, but had bad withdrawal at 0.125mg, so went back to .25mg Oct 17)

Clonazepam liquid taper: Oct 26: 0.22mg, (11.11% cut) Nov 7: 0.2mg, (12.5% cut) Nov 12: 0.175mg, (14.3% cut) Nov 16: 0.15mg (16.7% cut) Nov 24: 0.125mg

 

Supplements: D3: 1000 IU (drops), B12: (Methylcobalamin- 2500mg; Folate- 400mg; B6- 10mg), Pro-biotics: 25 billion, Magnesium glycinate: 100 mg x 2-3, Fish oil: 2000mg, Chromium picolinate: 200 mcg, Holy Basil: 500mg, Phosphatidylserine: 100mg, Curcumin:500mg; Zinc Picolinate

 

 

 


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Posted 06 November 2016 - 04:25 PM

Has anyone found relief from long lasting nausea?
 
I'm weaning off clonazapam, and nausea is one of my worst symptoms. I also had nausea during the time I was having intense anxiety for which the benzo was prescribed....so apparently my GI system gets easily affected when my nervous system goes haywire. I had terrible nausea during my pregnancies and took Zofran (ondansetron) which took the edge off. I get nausea from about 3am-3pm every day and it can be debilitating. I've lost 20 pounds and feel miserable. I hate eating. I think I could taper faster, but this symptom makes my days feel unbearable.
 
It's worst in the morning, if I can get past breakfast, then lunch...it lets up a bit in the afternoon/evenings (lately, not as much).
 
I've tried peppermint tea (kinda helps), ginger tea and capsules (don't notice much), the acupressure wrist bands (maybe helps a bit), eating little bits constantly throughout the day (helps), aromatherapy (eh...), acupuncture (not sure, today, definitely not), and breathing into a paper bag (apparently getting more CO2 can help...lets up for about 5-10m after).
 
I have been hesitant to try Zofran because 1) I feel like I would probably need to take it daily and i don't really want to add another med when I feel this crappy, and 2) when I look up interactions online, Buspar is one that is risk for developing serotonin syndrome, but when I asked my pharmacist, he looked it up and said it would be fine to take it. Anyone had luck with trying it? I know it's contraindicated with some ADs, and other psych meds.


That's too bad that you have do much nausea. I hope you feel better soon. I have some too, my dr did give me zofran, but I only take it when it's unbearable. I found this stuff called Nauzene. You chew 2 to begin with and can gave another one in 15 min. You might try that. You can get it at Walmart. Let me know how you are feeling.
PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Zoloft, 1997-1999; switch to Paxil, 1999-2002 ___2009 - 2015: Gabapentin, 900mg, 2010-2015: tapered of 9 weeks, last dose Sept. 2015, no symptoms ___ Lamictal, 300mg, 2009-2015, taper of 6 weeks, last dose Oct 2015,no symptoms ___ Valium, 40mg, 2008-2015, 8 week taper, last dose Dec 2015, no symptoms ___ 2016: Carafate 1mg (anti-ulcer med) 4x a day as needed. Prescribed but not taking it. ___ Prilosec 40mg; 28-Aug started 25% taper; 1-Oct 20mg a.m. + 15mg p.m. Stopped Nov 26, 2016 w/rebound acid but not too bad.---CURRENT MEDICATIONS---Supplements: 150 mg Mag chloride, 350mg Krill Oil, Milk Thistle, ProbioticFor nausea as needed: Zantac, 300mg only "as needed". Zofran 4mg for nausea; only take it when nausea is unbearable or phenegran.Xanax, 3 mg in 4 split doses, 2008-present Lexpro: 2002 - March 2016: 20 mg; Mar-Apr 2016: 8 week taper 20 mg - 10 mg; 8-June 9mg; 13-June 10 mg; 11-Sep 7.5 mg; 25-Sep 5 mg; 5-Oct 10mg; started taking Liquid Lexapro in Nov 2016; started taper with liquid 1-Jan-17 9mg; 22-Jan 8.1mg; 22-Feb 7.3 mg, (horrible nausea); 30-Mar, updosed to 7.6 (1st morning, not as much nausea, hopefully it will get better); nausea was brutal; 6-April, updosed to 7.9mg, hoping nausea will let up; nausea stopped on 14-April for 2 days so far; 17-April nausea started back up :( stopped supplements on 10-April

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Posted 13 November 2016 - 02:58 PM

Anja -

 

I am sorry to hear that you are dealing with nausea.  I dealt with nausea for 14 months when I stopped taking Prozac.  I couldn't eat.  I lost 55 pounds.  I tried Zofran but only took it a few times.  I would drink protein drinks.  I would also eat pudding, soup and crackers.  Another thing I had to do was stop taking my multivitamin and fish oil, they made my nausea so much worse.  I would chew on ginger throughout the day.  I wish I had some more helpful advise. 


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Posted 13 November 2016 - 03:05 PM

O2bhappy:

How did you figure out your fish oil capsules were making you sick? Just trial and error? I take 1 everyday. I'm nauseous most of the day.
My dr gave me zofran also, but I only take it if the nausea is unbearable.
I haven't lost any weight.
Hope you are doing well.
Thanks for answering my questions :)
Take care,
Frogie
PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Zoloft, 1997-1999; switch to Paxil, 1999-2002 ___2009 - 2015: Gabapentin, 900mg, 2010-2015: tapered of 9 weeks, last dose Sept. 2015, no symptoms ___ Lamictal, 300mg, 2009-2015, taper of 6 weeks, last dose Oct 2015,no symptoms ___ Valium, 40mg, 2008-2015, 8 week taper, last dose Dec 2015, no symptoms ___ 2016: Carafate 1mg (anti-ulcer med) 4x a day as needed. Prescribed but not taking it. ___ Prilosec 40mg; 28-Aug started 25% taper; 1-Oct 20mg a.m. + 15mg p.m. Stopped Nov 26, 2016 w/rebound acid but not too bad.---CURRENT MEDICATIONS---Supplements: 150 mg Mag chloride, 350mg Krill Oil, Milk Thistle, ProbioticFor nausea as needed: Zantac, 300mg only "as needed". Zofran 4mg for nausea; only take it when nausea is unbearable or phenegran.Xanax, 3 mg in 4 split doses, 2008-present Lexpro: 2002 - March 2016: 20 mg; Mar-Apr 2016: 8 week taper 20 mg - 10 mg; 8-June 9mg; 13-June 10 mg; 11-Sep 7.5 mg; 25-Sep 5 mg; 5-Oct 10mg; started taking Liquid Lexapro in Nov 2016; started taper with liquid 1-Jan-17 9mg; 22-Jan 8.1mg; 22-Feb 7.3 mg, (horrible nausea); 30-Mar, updosed to 7.6 (1st morning, not as much nausea, hopefully it will get better); nausea was brutal; 6-April, updosed to 7.9mg, hoping nausea will let up; nausea stopped on 14-April for 2 days so far; 17-April nausea started back up :( stopped supplements on 10-April

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50mcg 18-April for hypothydroidism Stopped by dr. on 20-April too many side effects, going to try again in 6 months

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 03:00 PM

Frogie -

 

I don't believe that the fish oil was the cause of my nausea.  I just decide to stop taking it to see if it helped with the nausea.   I was off the fish oil for at least two months before my nausea improved.  Since I have delayed gastric emptying I figured that the fish oil was just sitting in my stomach.

 

I only took the Zofran a couple of times because I was scared of taking it.  When I did take it, it only helped for about two hours.  I had days that I would take Benadryl to help with the nausea.   I figured that had less side effects then the Zofran. 

 

I think with the nausea it is trial an error, but I also think it is time.  Being nauseous 24/7 for 14 months was awful.  I am now able to eat and actually get hungry.  That should give encouragement to anyone who has been suffering with nausea. 


Discontinued Fluoxetine cold turkey after taking it for 12 years. Stopped taking Fluoxetine in August 2015.

My current withdrawal symptoms: DP/DR, internal shaking, crying, smell hallucination, hot flashes, night sweats, insomnia, anxiety, depression, and scared feelings.

Synthroid for hypothyroidism.


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Posted 15 November 2016 - 03:26 PM

Frogie -
 
I don't believe that the fish oil was the cause of my nausea.  I just decide to stop taking it to see if it helped with the nausea.   I was off the fish oil for at least two months before my nausea improved.  Since I have delayed gastric emptying I figured that the fish oil was just sitting in my stomach.
 
I only took the Zofran a couple of times because I was scared of taking it.  When I did take it, it only helped for about two hours.  I had days that I would take Benadryl to help with the nausea.   I figured that had less side effects then the Zofran. 
 
I think with the nausea it is trial an error, but I also think it is time.  Being nauseous 24/7 for 14 months was awful.  I am now able to eat and actually get hungry.  That should give encouragement to anyone who has been suffering with nausea.


I have stopped taking my supplements. Hopefully they are are giving me the nausea. Probably not but wishful thinking. I have zofran but only take it when it's unbearable. I might try Benadryl, I didn't know that helped with nausea.
I'm so tired of it. But it only happens as soon as I open my eyes and lasts until noon or so. But too much for me! I eat but it's a lot of chicken and veggies, very bland. I hope I don't have it for 14 months.
I'm glad to hear you are better! :)
Good to hear it does get better.
Take care,
Frogie xx
PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Zoloft, 1997-1999; switch to Paxil, 1999-2002 ___2009 - 2015: Gabapentin, 900mg, 2010-2015: tapered of 9 weeks, last dose Sept. 2015, no symptoms ___ Lamictal, 300mg, 2009-2015, taper of 6 weeks, last dose Oct 2015,no symptoms ___ Valium, 40mg, 2008-2015, 8 week taper, last dose Dec 2015, no symptoms ___ 2016: Carafate 1mg (anti-ulcer med) 4x a day as needed. Prescribed but not taking it. ___ Prilosec 40mg; 28-Aug started 25% taper; 1-Oct 20mg a.m. + 15mg p.m. Stopped Nov 26, 2016 w/rebound acid but not too bad.---CURRENT MEDICATIONS---Supplements: 150 mg Mag chloride, 350mg Krill Oil, Milk Thistle, ProbioticFor nausea as needed: Zantac, 300mg only "as needed". Zofran 4mg for nausea; only take it when nausea is unbearable or phenegran.Xanax, 3 mg in 4 split doses, 2008-present Lexpro: 2002 - March 2016: 20 mg; Mar-Apr 2016: 8 week taper 20 mg - 10 mg; 8-June 9mg; 13-June 10 mg; 11-Sep 7.5 mg; 25-Sep 5 mg; 5-Oct 10mg; started taking Liquid Lexapro in Nov 2016; started taper with liquid 1-Jan-17 9mg; 22-Jan 8.1mg; 22-Feb 7.3 mg, (horrible nausea); 30-Mar, updosed to 7.6 (1st morning, not as much nausea, hopefully it will get better); nausea was brutal; 6-April, updosed to 7.9mg, hoping nausea will let up; nausea stopped on 14-April for 2 days so far; 17-April nausea started back up :( stopped supplements on 10-April

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50mcg 18-April for hypothydroidism Stopped by dr. on 20-April too many side effects, going to try again in 6 months

#260 O2bhappy

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Posted 18 November 2016 - 07:48 AM

Frogie -

 

Have you noticed any improvement with your nausea after stopping the supplements?  The past couple of days I have been having stomach pains.  It feels like I pulled a muscle, but I don't think that is what is going on.   I hope it clears up and is not a new symptom of withdrawal. 


Discontinued Fluoxetine cold turkey after taking it for 12 years. Stopped taking Fluoxetine in August 2015.

My current withdrawal symptoms: DP/DR, internal shaking, crying, smell hallucination, hot flashes, night sweats, insomnia, anxiety, depression, and scared feelings.

Synthroid for hypothyroidism.


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Posted 18 November 2016 - 08:43 AM

Hi O2:
Sorry your not feeling well. Hopefully it is a side effect.
I know my shoulder hurt for a while, but has stopped.
No, it hasn't let up. But I have a dr appt Tuesday to see what I can do.
I hope you feel better soon :)
Take care,
Frogie xx
PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Zoloft, 1997-1999; switch to Paxil, 1999-2002 ___2009 - 2015: Gabapentin, 900mg, 2010-2015: tapered of 9 weeks, last dose Sept. 2015, no symptoms ___ Lamictal, 300mg, 2009-2015, taper of 6 weeks, last dose Oct 2015,no symptoms ___ Valium, 40mg, 2008-2015, 8 week taper, last dose Dec 2015, no symptoms ___ 2016: Carafate 1mg (anti-ulcer med) 4x a day as needed. Prescribed but not taking it. ___ Prilosec 40mg; 28-Aug started 25% taper; 1-Oct 20mg a.m. + 15mg p.m. Stopped Nov 26, 2016 w/rebound acid but not too bad.---CURRENT MEDICATIONS---Supplements: 150 mg Mag chloride, 350mg Krill Oil, Milk Thistle, ProbioticFor nausea as needed: Zantac, 300mg only "as needed". Zofran 4mg for nausea; only take it when nausea is unbearable or phenegran.Xanax, 3 mg in 4 split doses, 2008-present Lexpro: 2002 - March 2016: 20 mg; Mar-Apr 2016: 8 week taper 20 mg - 10 mg; 8-June 9mg; 13-June 10 mg; 11-Sep 7.5 mg; 25-Sep 5 mg; 5-Oct 10mg; started taking Liquid Lexapro in Nov 2016; started taper with liquid 1-Jan-17 9mg; 22-Jan 8.1mg; 22-Feb 7.3 mg, (horrible nausea); 30-Mar, updosed to 7.6 (1st morning, not as much nausea, hopefully it will get better); nausea was brutal; 6-April, updosed to 7.9mg, hoping nausea will let up; nausea stopped on 14-April for 2 days so far; 17-April nausea started back up :( stopped supplements on 10-April

Levothyroxine
50mcg 18-April for hypothydroidism Stopped by dr. on 20-April too many side effects, going to try again in 6 months

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Posted 19 November 2016 - 08:29 AM

Frogie and O2bhappy,

Thank you for your advice! I am sorry that you are dealing/have dealt with nausea too. I've not taken the zofran yet, but will try if it gets to the point where I am retching again. I did try this bracelet thing that has an electrical pulse and it was TERRIBLY uncomfortable, felt like fire going through my hand nerves, so I wouldn't recommend that. I've been working from home the past week and this has been the most helpful so far- i'm distracted a bit by my work AND close to my kitchen so I just eat every hour which has made a big difference overall. Of course the foods I'm eating are very bland (potatoes, fruit) and can't do raw veggies. I'll look into Nauzene, thanks for that recommendation. I also ordered the China Oel but haven't tried it since I had so much peppermint tea lately that my stomach felt sort of burned out on it. I have been smelling it and that seems to help (only for a second, but if I have it near me, it does take the edge off). I noticed that when the insomnia is bad, the nausea matches that- ugh! Thanks again for the recommendations and support!


Ativan (0.5mgx1 daily): Aug 24-Sept 14 2016; Sept 27-29 2016 for anxiety brought on by possible serious illness (stopped for 1 week and had BAD withdrawal)

Buspar (22.5mg over 2 doses daily): Sept 20-present 2016

Clonazepam (0:5mgx1 daily): Sept 30-present 2016 (titrated down 25% per 5 days after illness scare passed, but had bad withdrawal at 0.125mg, so went back to .25mg Oct 17)

Clonazepam liquid taper: Oct 26: 0.22mg, (11.11% cut) Nov 7: 0.2mg, (12.5% cut) Nov 12: 0.175mg, (14.3% cut) Nov 16: 0.15mg (16.7% cut) Nov 24: 0.125mg

 

Supplements: D3: 1000 IU (drops), B12: (Methylcobalamin- 2500mg; Folate- 400mg; B6- 10mg), Pro-biotics: 25 billion, Magnesium glycinate: 100 mg x 2-3, Fish oil: 2000mg, Chromium picolinate: 200 mcg, Holy Basil: 500mg, Phosphatidylserine: 100mg, Curcumin:500mg; Zinc Picolinate

 

 

 


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Posted 19 November 2016 - 11:45 AM

Anja -

 

I think eating small bland meals is the best.  Also try drinks like Boost or Ensure.  Some days that was all I could stomach.  I also lived on chocolate pudding.  I drank a lot of hot green tea.  I also think distraction is good, but it is hard to distract yourself when you feel so bad. 

 

One other thing...if you don't want to take the Zofran try Benadryl.  It actually helps with nausea. 


Discontinued Fluoxetine cold turkey after taking it for 12 years. Stopped taking Fluoxetine in August 2015.

My current withdrawal symptoms: DP/DR, internal shaking, crying, smell hallucination, hot flashes, night sweats, insomnia, anxiety, depression, and scared feelings.

Synthroid for hypothyroidism.


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Posted 22 November 2016 - 09:08 AM

I have moved discussion about Frogie's situation to her introduction topic. Frogie: Lexapro - how to get below 10 mg.


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Posted 22 November 2016 - 09:25 AM

I have moved discussion about Frogie's situation to her introduction topic. Frogie: Lexapro - how to get below 10 mg.


Thank you Scallywag :)
PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Zoloft, 1997-1999; switch to Paxil, 1999-2002 ___2009 - 2015: Gabapentin, 900mg, 2010-2015: tapered of 9 weeks, last dose Sept. 2015, no symptoms ___ Lamictal, 300mg, 2009-2015, taper of 6 weeks, last dose Oct 2015,no symptoms ___ Valium, 40mg, 2008-2015, 8 week taper, last dose Dec 2015, no symptoms ___ 2016: Carafate 1mg (anti-ulcer med) 4x a day as needed. Prescribed but not taking it. ___ Prilosec 40mg; 28-Aug started 25% taper; 1-Oct 20mg a.m. + 15mg p.m. Stopped Nov 26, 2016 w/rebound acid but not too bad.---CURRENT MEDICATIONS---Supplements: 150 mg Mag chloride, 350mg Krill Oil, Milk Thistle, ProbioticFor nausea as needed: Zantac, 300mg only "as needed". Zofran 4mg for nausea; only take it when nausea is unbearable or phenegran.Xanax, 3 mg in 4 split doses, 2008-present Lexpro: 2002 - March 2016: 20 mg; Mar-Apr 2016: 8 week taper 20 mg - 10 mg; 8-June 9mg; 13-June 10 mg; 11-Sep 7.5 mg; 25-Sep 5 mg; 5-Oct 10mg; started taking Liquid Lexapro in Nov 2016; started taper with liquid 1-Jan-17 9mg; 22-Jan 8.1mg; 22-Feb 7.3 mg, (horrible nausea); 30-Mar, updosed to 7.6 (1st morning, not as much nausea, hopefully it will get better); nausea was brutal; 6-April, updosed to 7.9mg, hoping nausea will let up; nausea stopped on 14-April for 2 days so far; 17-April nausea started back up :( stopped supplements on 10-April

Levothyroxine
50mcg 18-April for hypothydroidism Stopped by dr. on 20-April too many side effects, going to try again in 6 months

#266 anongrl5590

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Posted 07 January 2017 - 05:45 PM

Sorry for a TMI topic but ever since having WD, every time I want to go #2, I have diarrhea or very loose stools. Does anyone have this problem and what solutions have you taken to help with it?

Doesn't matter what I eat, this happens :(

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August 2015: Started on 10mg/day
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June 2016 to August 2016: increased to 40mg (my body reacted very badly to this dose)
August 2016: decreased back to 20mg
September 2016: tapered off 10mg this month alone
September 30, 2016: last day of Prozac
October 2016: month long window
November 2016-Present: WD symptoms (too many physical sxs and some mental sxs)
February 5-20, 2017: Reinstated at 1-2mg // February 21, 2017: Back to no meds

 


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Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:47 AM

By request - some info I wrote on Frogie's thread on enzymes:

 

Where do I get that Digest Gold?

 

I got mine from iHerb.  It's not cheap.  There is a product here in Australia that is 80% as good as Digest Gold, and maybe half the price.  

 

Go to this page:  http://au.iherb.com/...0-Capsules/7056

 

In the ingredients, you will see a list of enzymes:  

Digest Gold contains:  Amylase, protease, glucomylase, lactase, alpha galacsodase, cellulase, lipase, beta glucanase, maltase, xylanase, invertase, paclinase, hemicellulase.  Covers all possible bases, apparently.

 

A local product (Nature's Own Digestive Ease, all vegetarian, manufactured 30 minutes away) contains lactase, amylase, protease, lipase, cellulase, and a better description of what it does.  

 

It's in a ginger base - I also have a special ginger, turmeric, (and something else) root powder made by a local chemist (that's a chemist, not a pharmacist  http://www.biohawk.com.au/) that I sprinkle on food or put in bread mix or pancakes to break down proteins.  If you use Ginger, there's a good chance it came from Queensland - 80% of the world's ginger comes from here.  Additionally, there are over 400 species of ginger, each with different properties - some are just ornamental, some have different medicinal characteristics.  Turmeric is a cousin to ginger. 

 

Digestive Ease also contains papain (from papaya) and bromelain (from pineapple) - these fruits can "digest" meats & proteins without help from stomach acid.

 

So here's what the label says:

Lactase - breaks down lactose in milk (like I said)

Amylase - breaks down carbs

Papain, protease, & bromelain - breaks down protein

Lipase - breaks down fats and oils

Cellulase - breaks down cellulose, or plant carbohydrate.

 

So you kinda see how the names work. 

 

There are 2 other kinds of enzymes - Betaine HcL (which is now falling out of favour in preference for) and TMG (tri-methyl-glycine - sounds healthy, no?).  I take betaine HcL with food every day, and the complex digestive enzyme formulas when I share food with others and have less control over what I eat.  Like at restaurants.  Instead of griping that there may be wheat or dairy, I just take an enzyme if I think there may be something I react to.  I still order carefully, but don't panic over loss of control.  It won't FIX the problem, but it keeps me from getting completely sick.

 

One other thing - I know I mentioned it before - and I mention it a lot:  Deglycinated Licorice (DGL).  These come in lozenges and are awesome for nausea.  Licorice (I used to take it as a supplement, but can be dangerous for the heart) has this glycinate stuff in it, the DGL has that removed, so is safe to take.

 

I have given you all that information so that you can find a digestive aid for you.

 

What do you have the most difficulty with?  Dairy?  Carbs?  Fats?  Take a digestive enzyme with your food.  Get to know the different

(nnn)-ase's and find what works for you.

 

Digest Gold is expensive.  I buy the local product, when I can find it on special.  But I use the Digest Gold, too.  I mentioned it first, because it covers most of the bases.  

 

 

 

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Re:  Himalayan Salt

Ok, I'll drink more water. I have been bad about that. Do I just put the salt in the water and drink it? How much salt and how often? I have been drinking mint tea.

 

You can do that - I just use the pink salt whenever I want salt. Please do not use Morton or regular "kitchen salt."  It is

an industrial product.  Use natural Pink Himalayan Salt or Celtic Sea Salt.  

 

If I have had a dehydrating attack of IBS, or feel that my kidneys are "dry," I will have a little - a few twists of the salt-grinder - in a 16 oz beverage.  I suffered kidney dysfunction on the lithium, so I'm sensitive to when my kidneys aren't working well.

Because of this sensitivity, I must caution you against Coca-cola.  It is dehydrating, and not just from the caffeine.  If you are dehydrated, it is the last thing you should have.  It's probably not good for nausea, either.  After all, you can use it to clean your car engine - what would that do for the delicate balance of your gastro intestinal tract?

 

I love a good Coke - the ones in Atlanta are the best.  But if it is aggravating your symptoms - it's worth a try to see if you can eliminate the symptoms by eliminating the Coke!  What if it is as simple as that?

 

I have been taking a splash of Apple Cider Vinegar (ACV)  or lemon juice in my water, especially overnight for sipping.  That is good for the tummy, and may heal some of the damage the PPI's gave you.

 

LOL Ali telling you so succinctly:  the drugs cause rebound of the very effect they are meant to treat.  Yep!  She's right!  It may be awhile before you are normal after quitting the PPI's.  

 

I'm keeping my eyes out for natural nausea remedies.  The ACV water and lemon water come highly recommended.  It was hard to drink the ACV water at first, but now that I've gotten used to it, I like it.  The trick is to make it not too strong.  Very good for the gut, if you can drink it!

 


"Easy, easy - just go easy and you'll finish." - Hawaiian Kapuna

 

Holding is hard work, holding is a blessing. Give your brain time to heal before you try again.

 

My suggestions are not medical advice, you are in charge of your own medical choices.

 

A lifetime of being prescribed antidepressants that caused problems (30 years in total). At age 35 flipped to "bipolar," but was not diagnosed for 5 years. Started my journey in Midwest United States. Crossed the Pacific for love and hope; currently living in Australia.   CT Seroquel 25 mg some time in 2013.   Tapered Reboxetine 4 mg Oct 2013 to Sept 2014 = GONE (3 years on Reboxetine).     Tapered Lithium 900 to 475 MG (alternating with the SNRI) Jan 2014 - Nov 2014, tapered Lithium 475 mg Jan 2015 -  Feb 2016 = GONE (10 years  on Lithium).  Many mistakes in dry cutting dosages were made.

 

Currently Lithium Orotate 1.67 mg only.  I will re-evaluate this supplement in 2017.

 

I have been psych drug FREE since 1 Feb 2016!


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Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:54 AM

I've also been learning more about bone broth.

 

https://draxe.com/th...-and-cellulite/

 

He has a "remedy" for bloating and GERD & sluggish digestion, called a Sole.  He says it is effective enough to use instead of the awful stuff they give you before a colonoscopy.

 

I have not tried it yet, but next time I have an attack, I would like to - 

 

Here is the recipe:  https://draxe.com/sa...r-flush-recipe/

 

and here is his reasoning behind it:

https://draxe.com/salt-water-flush/

 

This Sole, or Salt Water Flush, is a DETOX remedy, and should not be used by those suffering akathisia, or acute withdrawal symptoms.  Any detox when you are having withdrawal symptoms  runs the risk of making it worse.

 

I'll let you know when I try it.


"Easy, easy - just go easy and you'll finish." - Hawaiian Kapuna

 

Holding is hard work, holding is a blessing. Give your brain time to heal before you try again.

 

My suggestions are not medical advice, you are in charge of your own medical choices.

 

A lifetime of being prescribed antidepressants that caused problems (30 years in total). At age 35 flipped to "bipolar," but was not diagnosed for 5 years. Started my journey in Midwest United States. Crossed the Pacific for love and hope; currently living in Australia.   CT Seroquel 25 mg some time in 2013.   Tapered Reboxetine 4 mg Oct 2013 to Sept 2014 = GONE (3 years on Reboxetine).     Tapered Lithium 900 to 475 MG (alternating with the SNRI) Jan 2014 - Nov 2014, tapered Lithium 475 mg Jan 2015 -  Feb 2016 = GONE (10 years  on Lithium).  Many mistakes in dry cutting dosages were made.

 

Currently Lithium Orotate 1.67 mg only.  I will re-evaluate this supplement in 2017.

 

I have been psych drug FREE since 1 Feb 2016!


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Posted 22 January 2017 - 12:55 PM

Hi!

 

Just wanted to share that DGL licorice has really helped with GERD and nausea. I know that licorice can be stimulating, but the DGL licorice shouldn't have effects on blood pressure.


2008 -2013 Most of the time on 75 mg venlafaxine and 0,25 mg Klonopin, 2013 august-oct - weaning off venlafaxine
2013 december- severe panick attacks, difficulties with breathing and swallowing, brain zaps, derealisation ect.
back to 75 mg venlafaxine
2014 dec - 60 mg venlafaxine, 2015 jan - 55 mg
2015 feb - hospitalisation,extreme WD, switched to 10mg Prozac, weaning off Klonopin
2015 march - added inositol, niacin, fish oil
2015 april - free from klonopin, only on 10mg Prozac, may - oct 10mg - 6 mg prozac

2015 oct - WD, anxiety, panic attacks - back to 7 mg, Nov- back to 8 mg - added 1/4 of 1,5 mg bromazepam x 2 per day

2015. dec - adverse reaction to prozac, had to CT, only on 1mg klonopin - low grade fever, vertigo, painful urinating

2016. jan - back on venlafaxine 37,5 mg and 1 mg klonopin - , also taking vit c, Q 10, fish oil, magnesium oil, seabuckthorn oil, zinc gluconate, tumeric, april 2016 - back on 75 mg venlafaxine, oct 2016 18 mg venlafaxine 0,5 - 1 mg klonopin,Jan 9 - hospitalized due to severe depression January 12- discontinued venlafaxine, switched from 1 mg clonazepam to 7.5 mg diazepam 2 times a day, 15th January started 75 mg pregabalin, 19th jan - 5 mg diazepam in the morning 7.5 in the evening + 75 mg pegabalin, Jan 27 - 52,5 pregabalin - 6 mg venlafaxine - 5 mg diazepam morning - 10 mg diazepam evening


#270 Sheri755

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 12:49 PM

My stomach was the first thing to recover. I went from chronic constipation to chronic diarrhea got off the drugs and now have an appetite and normal bowel movements :)

HOW ENCOURAGING! I often wonder if this will ever improve (like everything else!)

My stomach issues began with a stint of 9 months of nausea the first year, then 7 months straight the next year.
The following year I had indigestion, cramps, pain, aching and was told I had gallstones
the following year I had gall surgery which was horrendous and I often wonder if it was a waste of time
It has taken 7 months to get over the surgery and I still have aches, pain, gas, constipation, etc.
A catscan has returned normal results much to my surprise as in the area of the appendix it is always painful, sometimes better than other times.

Yesterday a severe attack of pain and the only thing I can put it down to is the tiny bit of fat on the small chop I ate. I normally have one bowel movement a day (on Movicol) but I went twice. Went to bed at 8pm and couldn't sleep until I got up at 11pm and had another movement. I am now wondering if fat causes this severe paini/cramp.

I am on a fat free diet and IBS diet already but trying to introduce fats back in gradually (dietician's advice due to weight loss). Along with trying to solve what foods cause anxiety and recent rapid pulse, it is very trying as I have to keep a food diary and nothing seems to prove anything.

I was reading the thread and came across your post. My naturopath told me that it's important to take Ox Bile if your gall bladder has been removed. You may or may not already know this. Thought I'd share just in case. 😊
Effexor XR 300 (brand) mg & various SSRIs 15 yrs (Effexor XR 300 mg past 10 yrs
Clonazepam, 1.0 mg. am, .5 mg pm. - 15 yrs, 7-17-16- Began .5 three times a day
Vyvanse 60 mg, - 2 yrs, Cut to 50 mg for 6 mths, Cut to 30 mg. on 4-1-16. Tapering.
Approx. 4-1-15 began Effexor XR 300 taper, very slowly for a year. Held at 37.5 for about 3 mths. Cut to 18 mg for 2 wks to 0. WD began 2 wks later. Depression, anxiety, paranoia, low appetite, nausea.
7-14-16-Reinstated 5 beads Effx after 4 mths misery.Pooped out 10 days.
9-12-16-to present- Wide eyed terror, bedridden fear, no appetite/feeling of being full.
10-30-16- Began 15% liquid tapering of 30 mg Vyvanse. (25 mg)
11-13-16- Liquid Vyvanse 22 mg,11-27-16- Liquid 15 mg, 12-12-16- Vyvanse 12.5 for 5 days. 12-16 - 12-29, 15 mg.
11-20-16- Switched back to 1.0 clonazepam am & .5 bedtime
12-30-16- Moved to 15 mg COMPOUNDED Vyvanse.Current 4/11-4/25 7.5 mg.(10% ev 2 wks)
Current meds:Effexor XR- 5 Beads, Clonazepam-1.0 mg am, .5 mg bedtime,Vyvanse-(tapering) Estradiol- 2
mg,Progesterone 200 mg,Testosterone 30 mg/ml,Nature Throid- 48.75 mg.(12-21-16-65 mg.) (4-18-17-81.25 mg) Current supplements: Fish Oil-1360 mg, Curamin- 2706 mg.

#271 tryingtosurvive

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 11:47 AM

Hi , anyone else with gastointestinal issues, reflux etc AFTER being of SSRI for some time ??  Can Prozac affec the stomach muscles ? Anyone with information in this matter ? Can the receptors in the stomach heal ?

 

http://www.dailymail...e-problems.html

 

Asking because I am scared 14 years on this drug has destroyed my stomach receptors ...:/

 

I am suffering from severe LPR (larnyphageal reflux ) since 9 months severe and its 3 years since I came of completely Prozac (as you ´can see in my signature it wasn't easy ) but its only now 2 years after that the issues with the reflux has become severe--- can it be comnnected to all this years of Prozac ? ?? I have done several examinations now and the only thing theý found so far is that my LES (lower esophageal spincter) relaxes and doesn't close at it should...

 

Very grateful to your reply!

Kindest regards,

/trying to survive ...


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fluoxetine since 13years followed doctors advice tapered 40 mg to 0mg in 4 months july 2015 august crasched in panic attacks etc end of september akatisia , nausea, crying alot no one told me it could be something called withdrawal I read it and also about going back to last dose No one knew if it was worth it. tried reinstate autumn 2014 5 mg prozac then 10mg since 29/11-2014 feel only worse sucidal for real, tried antihistamine 10 mg or oxascand (benso) 5 mg or valerian for anxiousness but sick feeling taking this. 6mg prozac to taper slowly down since 15/2-2014 (30ml out of 100ml water with 20 mg pill) tapered 10-20% per month until June 2015 super anxious depressed tired. Got Buspar may 2015 5mg 10mg 15mg headache etc
June 2015: 10mg buspar plus around 3 mg prozac quit this cold turkey in July 2015. One week later crying spells and suicidal. Tried 5htp.magnesium omega 3 until September. October 2015 tested vit D was 17 . Since October 2015 ONLY Vit D and magnesium . nov 2016 can laungh again! but still too anxious ,depressed or lethargic in waves can't focuS, Crying spells , scared, social fobia, bitterness. .. . Did not reinstate prozac again . Trying to survive ....

july 2016-troathpain /reflux starts...