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☼ Aberdeen's recovery from Effexor and now a Paxil taper

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but only because my period begins which makes me wonder....is this even wd? Or are my hormones just wildly fluctuating monthly because Im in my 40s? I wish it was just wd.

I think you might find it is all 3.  These things would probably happen anyway, but they are exacerabted by w/d.

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Hey Grandma!

How are you doing?

I would say that I have noticed an improvement on the intensity and duration of any anxiety I have, once I finished my taper. I still get swells of it here and there, and things will set me off, but it doesnt climb to such a high level anymore and even my morning anxiety is milder now too. More of a terrible mood, gloomy and mildly worried about random things that come to my head but |I can get back to sleep fine. I When I first came off Effexor and then on and off other meds in the months afterwards, I suffered a good two years of insane anxiety, at times it was actually more of a psychological terror (sounds so melodramatic i know, but it was really that bad). What I get now is next to nothing compared. I really only get spells of typical "normal" level anxiety, stuff I had long before I ever took meds at all. I would say anhedonia and mild depression and pms are my biggest issues now. Missing the zest for life, and tired of being annoyed by everyone/everthing.

But I've come a long way and I suppose further healing is always possible, and if a chunk of this is hormonal maybe one day post menopause things will settle a bit more!

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You have come such a long way, Aberdeen. And yes I believe further healing will happen for you.

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Thanks Lotus!! How have you been doing lately??? Nice to see you. :)

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I'm doing so much better.....i, too, had lost the zest for life for so long I thought it would never return....it has returned completely....ill write an update soon. Also the annoyance with others and things that don't go my way has dramatically decreased.

Mornings continue to be the most difficult time of my day but MUCH more tolerable....amxious dread almost gone.

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So great that you are continuing to feel better Aberdeen, I am so happy for you! Oh, I understand about the job, I find the conditions of a job are as important as the job itself, and a schedule that suits you is so important. I too believe you will continue to improve. Those ADs and WD affect our endocrine system so much, so I believe what you are experiencing is hormonal but BECAUSE of WD! Your system will continue to stabilise.You have come such a long way, it's wonderful! :)

 

I am in fact at 1.9mg right now. I had to updose a tiny bit since I have had such a hard time since the beginning of winter, especially with insomnia. I had finished the Wellbutrin in September, so my exacerbation of symptoms might have been due to that. I am slowly stabilising but I wont make another drop for a while, especially since we are in the process of buying a house, so more stress there!! But in the long run we will be so much better than in our noisy city apartment, so more stress now for more calm soon!

 

Take care,hugs

 

Athena

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So glad to hear this lotus!! I know you came so close to reinstating, so happy to hear this- its encouraging to me. Athena the move will be amazing I'm sure. City is too stimulating and chaotic, it'll be good!

I've been dealing with depression for about 2 months, but a window-less less responsive one than usual. I also have been dealing with a sinus infection. It's mild, only occassional chills/feverish and mild pain. Mild enough to fly under the radar until I recently connected the dots. I have been scared to deal with it. I tried echinacea for a few weeks and finally decongestants, which only rev up my system and give me anxiety. I'm afraid I might have to try antibiotics. I have a Dr's appointment anyway next week for bloodwork and a physical, we'll see where this goes. I'm tired of the fatigue and weakness. I feel "sick" yet not not sick enough to justify it if that makes sense, but it all adds up and I think started when we did some reno?ations in Dec and I was breathing in drywall dust, then had a bit of a cold and from there never seemed to feel right. On the wd front, not much anxiety or DR (other than a few hours after the decongestants) so thats good. I'm scared to take AB's but want this tired/depressed/weak feeling to go away as well as the blocked ears and sinus symptoms.

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Just wanted to add the bloodwork is for the weird hair cycle where it gets really thin/regrows every few months, as well as  whatever else I might possibly find that explains brain fog, fatigue ect ect.  WD is probably the cause of everything. I anticipate "normal" results, but since I need a physical anyway I may as well ask for a thyrpid panel and some hormones, as well as iron Vit B ect.

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Hi abrrdeen,

How are you doing with withdrawal ? How long you've been off all medications ?

Do you still experience issues with memory and brain fog ?

Thank you

Keep going

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Aberdeen, have you tried sinus irrigation with salt water for the infection?

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Hey guys, yes I sometimes have brain fog /cognitive stuff (memory)more so the two weeks before my time of the month though, so I feel like its hormonal to a big extent. Ive been off all meds for 9 months now.

Athena, I bought a nasal irrigation bottle but am scared to try,lol. Just seems so wrong but I'm going to try. Still have a week before my appointment to see what I can do on my own. I have been drinking turmeric "tea" as well for its anti inflammatory properties. Doesnt cause anxiety like the decongestants do.

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Oh Aberdeen don't be scared! I know it seems a bit weird at first and not very elegant ;) but it does help. I do it regularly for the numerous upper respiratory tract infections I get in the winter, and should actually do it more often! Let me know how it goes! I think the turmeric tea is a good idea. I also use oregano oil, a good anti inflammatory as well, and good old vitamin C!

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Hi Aberdeen.  I didn't realize you were here.  I remember you from pp and reading your posts there.  I have read through your posts here today.  I am glad you are doing well.  I def understand the hormonal component of withdrawal.  So glad to see you on here.

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Hi guys! Mustangwoman, I remember you also, mainly from Brass's journal. Yes the hormonal aspect is major, esp for women I think.

So as I approach next month, which will be one year post taper, I will update a little.

I ended up taking an antibiotic, Amoxicillan/Clavanulate(sp?) for 10 days for sinus infection, it cleared up the infection but I still have lingering pressure/pain most days, but not tired, with discharge and chills any more. The great thing is that, despite what it likely did to my gut flora, I had no aggravated WD symptoms from it. I didnt crash or get thrown into a wave as I feared.

WD speaking, I am feeling strong in all but 2 ways. I still feel terrible at 5-6am. It is much MUCH milder than before, but I still don't wake up with positive feelings about the day, and ruminate on anxiety producing issues in my life. This passes once I get up and start the day. The other issue, the one that bothers me most, is anhedonia. I know this seems to be a very persistent symptom, long lived in terms of recovery. I would be lying if I said I wasn't concerned about it though. On one hand I feel that i'm technically 6 years off Effexor and therefore "should" be healed from that rapid horrific "taper", however, I was still on psych meds following that ordeal and despite a very slow taper, have not truly freed my CNS from the effects of AD's until last June, and so perhaps if I need to give myself a set point from which to count from, I should go with that. This would make me 11 months into my med free life and I realize that isn't very long in the world of WD. I guess i'm worried that I should have seen more improvement in the anhedonia at some point during my taper from Paxil over the last few years and I feel I've seen marginal improvements at best, over the past 2-3 years and I'm concerned. I do have breaks, where the colours and emotions and creative/motivation comes to me, where I can read fiction, feel the full 3 dimensional range of positive emotions, for a day, some hours ect. What confuses me is, this seems to tie in with being mid way through my menstrual cycle, which is still regular despite being almost 45. I guess I have questions still, and wonder if I need to allow time to be my healer as it's been for 95% of my other symptoms, or if there is something pro active I need to do. I am going to ask for some bloodwork again, maybe metabolic/sex hormones/vitamin panels, and anything else that can provide insight. Other than that, I find my stress tolerance has increased, my lows are less low and shorter lived and I have a lot more physical endurance and energy! We recently travelled for a week to Cuba and I tolerated late nights, heat and a fair amount of alcohol,lol! I had a low week or two on return, but it was manageable and I wouldnt even call it depression, but a recuperation period. These are all very positive signs of sturdy, reliable recovery for me I have to say. Just need to sort out this anhedonia connection and I will be one happy camper!

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I'm glad to see that you are doing so well.  I hope that the anhedonia improves quickly.  The scripture you quote in your signature is one that I have heard and quoted since a small child.  One that has helped see me through difficult times. 

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Hello mustang! Me too, especially the "sound mind" part!

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For sure!

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Hi Aberdeen, you sound like you are doing well and this is great to hear. Trust me, the anhedonia gets so much better. I really started to pick up on my old hobbies and enjoying everything I used to after about 20 months and feel like it is getting better all the time. What really stinks is that I still have some low libido issues but I think that will change too. Great to see you doing so well.

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DLB thanks for the encouragement! I think the libido is tied in with whatever anhedonia is for sure, I also have that issue to a large extent. Im happy to hear you continued to get more into hobbies as time passed. I remember how much anxiety you had when you first started posting back on PP, you sound soooo much better. Healing does happen!

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I am so happy for you for your awesome improvement Aberdeen! I am sure the anhedonia will slowly fade as well. On my side, the moving is done, I can now enjoy a much calmer and peaceful environment, which feels so good. Will try to update soon.

 

I wish you a very good day!

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