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#1 brassmonkey

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 10:36 AM

Hi All--I go by Brassmonkey, but you can also call me Tom. I new to this group but mnot new to WD. I started on 20mg of Paxil 19 years ago and over the years built up to 40mg. Aboth three years ago it stafted causing mre problems than it helped. I was constently in a fog, couldn't remember anything more than a few seconds, had balance problems and very heavy night sweets. My drinking was also out of control. After some serious "discussions" with my wife I decided I had better do something.

My Dr said "if you want off, then just quit." I knew better from when I had to change from 30 CR to 30 regular and there was a problem with the Rx. Some web research lead me to a forum that suggested tapering at 10% a month. Sounded good to me, not being one to leave a good thnig alone, I decided to sneek up on the 10% by dropping 2.5% a week for 4 weeks and then holding for an additional 2 weeks. In the past 14 months I have dropped from the 40mg to 13.7mg and have to say that I have had very little trouble with the WD symptoms. They are there, but are fairly easy to handle.

A few weeks after starting my taper I joined AA and CTed the 15 oz a night vodka habit I had developed. I'm technically not sober 'cause I still enjoy 2 beers on most nights, but it's nothing like I was drinking. I recently switched from AA to DDA (dual diagnosced anon) and find that they tend to understand the AD problems a lot better. Oh yes, and my wife is very happy with the positive changes I have made.

That's the basics, I'll blither on more as the topics arise.


20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mg it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking


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Posted 18 December 2012 - 11:01 AM

Welcome aboard, Brassmonkey. I'm glad to hear that you're doing well in your withdrawal, but the speed of it makes me nervous. Paxil is the strongest of all the antidepressants and probably the most difficult one from which to withdraw. Often withdrawal symptoms are delayed by weeks to months in a too fast taper and suddenly pile up on a person. You've made a lot of changes in a short time, so I suggest stopping where you are and holding for a month or so. If withdrawal symtpoms get worse, updose a bit. If not, proceed with caution. We look forward to hearing more form you.

Psychotropic drug history: Pristiq 50 mg. (mid-September 2010 through February 2011), Remeron (mid-September 2010 through January 2011), Lexapro 10 mg. (mid-February 2011 through mid-December 2011), Lorazepam (Ativan) 1 mg. as needed mid-September 2010 through early March 2012

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 11:23 AM

Welcome, BrassM, and congratulations on taking care of yourself. Are you calculating your decreases on the last dosage? They should be getting progressively smaller in amount. Decreasing by 2.5% steps for 4 weeks is even more gradual for your brain than a 10% drop at a time. It's a fine idea and seems to be working for you. Often people run into problems when they get down below half-dosage. If you get withdrawal symptoms, you might want to slow down a bit. Paxil comes in a liquid that will help you do this.
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 11:56 AM

Welcome Brassmonkey, you have done really well to get down to 13.7 mg in 14mths.. I have done a similar reduction schedule at times - a few microtapers a week apart followed by a longer hold. It makes those first few days after a 10% drop a little easier.

Started in 2000 - On 150mg most of the time, (but up to 225mg at highest dose for 6 months in the beginning)
Reduced off easily first time - but got depressed (not too much anxiety) 6 months later
Back on effexor for another 9 months.
Reduced off again with no immediate w/d - suddenly got depressed and anxious ++ again 3 or 4 months later.
Back on effexor - this time for 3 years
Reduced off over a month - 6 weeks later terrible anxiety - back on.
Rinse and repeat 4 more times - each time the period before the anxiety comes back got shorter and shorter
Jan - July 2012 75mg down to 37.5mg;, 8/3/12 - 35mg. 8/25/12 - 32mg. 9/11- 28mg, 10/2 - 25mg, 10/29 - 22mg, 11/19 - 19.8mg; 12/11 - 17m,
1/1- 15.5mg; 1/22 -14mg, 2/7 14.9mg, 2/18 - 17.8mg - crashed big time: back to 75mg where i sat for 2 years....

4th  March 2015 - 67.5mg;   31st March - 60mg;  24th April - 53mg; 13th May - 48mg; 26th May - 45mg;  9th June - 41mg; 1 July- 37.5mg; 20 July - 34mg; 11 August - 31mg; 1st Sept - 28mg;  1st Dec - 25.8mg;  28th Dec - 23.2mg; 23rd Jan-21.9mg; Feb 7th- 21mg; March 1st - 20.1mg, March 30th - 18mg


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Posted 18 December 2012 - 12:12 PM

Oops, I think I misunderstood how you were tapering. Consider my advice withdrawn. :blush:

Psychotropic drug history: Pristiq 50 mg. (mid-September 2010 through February 2011), Remeron (mid-September 2010 through January 2011), Lexapro 10 mg. (mid-February 2011 through mid-December 2011), Lorazepam (Ativan) 1 mg. as needed mid-September 2010 through early March 2012

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 12:28 PM

Hi Tom, welcome to the forum. I'm coming off citalopram too and am dreading the unmanageable withdrawal symptoms. You seem to be going extremely well - more power to you! I think what Jemima said is so true; that the WD symptoms can be delayed by weeks or months before they hit. I was going fine till the 7 week mark then the symptoms hit me. So we should always err on the side of caution for that reason. Sounds like you've listen to your body and your gut instinct. Good luck with your taper.

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On and off meds from 2003-2006.
February 2006 back on 20mg citalopram and stayed on it until my last attempt at tapering in September 2011.
By far the worst withdrawal symptoms ever. Reinstated to 20mg citalopram
October 2012 - found this forum!
Nov 2012 to Feb 2013 did 10% taper, got doen to 11mg - was going great until stressful situation. Cortisol levels hit the roof, hideous insomnia forced me to updose to 20mg.
March 2016 - close to 100% back to normal!



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Posted 18 December 2012 - 12:36 PM

Hi Brassmonkey, nice to see you again!

2 Timothy 1-7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

Effexor 75mg to 262.5mg 2005-2010 for post partum depression

Started having poop out mid 2010, also switched generic brands, then crashed in Dec 2010 (anxiety/ "terror", intense DR, anhedonia, suicidal ideation, chills, insomnia, horrible intrusive thoughts, disorientation, ect)
Rapid "tapered" from 262.5mg Effexor in 3 months

Tried Celexa,Cipralex, then Paxil to deal with wd(this switching made things worse and added akathesia)

Found online support and started tapering Paxil 7 months after quitting Effexor (at this point was having small windows).

Paxil taper: dropped 10% every 4-8 weeks

Year 1 October 2011 to Nov 2012 20mg to 10mg

Year 2 March 2013 to Feb 2014 10mg to 4mg

Year 3 April 2014 to May 2015 4mg to 1.1mg

Year 4 June 2015 1.1mg , dropping by 10% until .5mg, after then dropped by 0.1mg every 5 weeks until 0.1mg.

Finished! Official last dose of 0.1mg on June 15/16


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Posted 18 December 2012 - 12:50 PM

Thanks for the warm welcome everyone, seems to be a great bunch here from the bits that I have read. Jemima--right now I am planning on taking a break about the end of Feb '13 when I get to 10mg, give my brain a chance to catch up a bit, but it depends on how things go between now and then. Aberdeen--good to see a familar face. I was feeling pretty lost when I had to CT the other forum. Hope your doing well.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mg it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking


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Posted 18 December 2012 - 01:18 PM

Hi, Bassmonkey, good to see another refugee from that other forum.
2003-2005: Paroxetine
2006-2009: Citalopram
2009-2011: Effexor
Aug/Sept 11: Fast tapered Effexor to Mirtazapine
Oct: C/T Mirtazapine after bad reaction and back on Effexor
Nov/Dec: Fast Tapered Effexor - w/d hell
5/2/12: Reinstated Effexor 37.5mg
30/6/12: Dropped to 35.6mg

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:13 PM

Things have been going pretty good all week. WD symptoms are there but fairly mild so far. My head is a little foggy and I'm having concentration problems and thats about it for the minute. Monday I will finish my slide by dropping to 12.2mg and then stay there for three weeks.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mg it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking


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Posted 20 December 2012 - 04:33 PM

I hate foggy head, its like thinking in slow motion for me.

2 Timothy 1-7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

Effexor 75mg to 262.5mg 2005-2010 for post partum depression

Started having poop out mid 2010, also switched generic brands, then crashed in Dec 2010 (anxiety/ "terror", intense DR, anhedonia, suicidal ideation, chills, insomnia, horrible intrusive thoughts, disorientation, ect)
Rapid "tapered" from 262.5mg Effexor in 3 months

Tried Celexa,Cipralex, then Paxil to deal with wd(this switching made things worse and added akathesia)

Found online support and started tapering Paxil 7 months after quitting Effexor (at this point was having small windows).

Paxil taper: dropped 10% every 4-8 weeks

Year 1 October 2011 to Nov 2012 20mg to 10mg

Year 2 March 2013 to Feb 2014 10mg to 4mg

Year 3 April 2014 to May 2015 4mg to 1.1mg

Year 4 June 2015 1.1mg , dropping by 10% until .5mg, after then dropped by 0.1mg every 5 weeks until 0.1mg.

Finished! Official last dose of 0.1mg on June 15/16


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Posted 25 December 2012 - 12:00 PM

Been having a quiet few days before Christmas. I'm off work for a week and a few days, so I'm taking the time to catch up on my sleep. Didn't leave my recliner for more than an hour on Saterday, and yesterday was just a few hours putting things away in the garage. I started the last part of my slide yesterday by dropping to 12.4mg, I'll staythere for three weeks and then start to slide again. BTW, what I am doing is to drop 2.5% a week for four weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks for a total of 10% every 6 weeks. It's really been working well with very manageable WD symptoms. I really recommend it to anyone who wants to keep their symptoms to a minimum. Going to have a quiet holiday, just the two of us, then tomorrow it will start to get crazy, 'cause the washer died to the point we have to replace it, Monica need a car and several other things. Well atleast I have the time off to help with it.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mg it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking


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Posted 28 December 2012 - 07:23 PM

Well the shopping didn't happen, Monica wasn't feeling well, whe has been having stomach trouble for a week or so, and spent the day in bed. Being a dutiful husband I stayed with her and cuddled her all day, much more enjoyable than shopping for a washing machine. She is doing much better today, and says she really appriciated my staying with her. Been doing a bunch of stuff around the house, getting things cleaned up to start the new year right. I am well into my latest slide and so far so good. My left hand is twitching, which is bothersome and I am getting tired easliy,but other than that it is going well.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mg it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking


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Posted 29 December 2012 - 09:46 AM

You sound like a nice hubby Brassmonkey! Glad to hear you're doing well on this slide!

2 Timothy 1-7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

Effexor 75mg to 262.5mg 2005-2010 for post partum depression

Started having poop out mid 2010, also switched generic brands, then crashed in Dec 2010 (anxiety/ "terror", intense DR, anhedonia, suicidal ideation, chills, insomnia, horrible intrusive thoughts, disorientation, ect)
Rapid "tapered" from 262.5mg Effexor in 3 months

Tried Celexa,Cipralex, then Paxil to deal with wd(this switching made things worse and added akathesia)

Found online support and started tapering Paxil 7 months after quitting Effexor (at this point was having small windows).

Paxil taper: dropped 10% every 4-8 weeks

Year 1 October 2011 to Nov 2012 20mg to 10mg

Year 2 March 2013 to Feb 2014 10mg to 4mg

Year 3 April 2014 to May 2015 4mg to 1.1mg

Year 4 June 2015 1.1mg , dropping by 10% until .5mg, after then dropped by 0.1mg every 5 weeks until 0.1mg.

Finished! Official last dose of 0.1mg on June 15/16


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Posted 29 December 2012 - 11:47 AM

you DO sound like a nice hubby! I have done similar reductions to yours brassmonkey - it really does help to keep the WD to a minimum - you just need to make sure you hold that extra couple of weeks without a reduction or it catches up with you

Started in 2000 - On 150mg most of the time, (but up to 225mg at highest dose for 6 months in the beginning)
Reduced off easily first time - but got depressed (not too much anxiety) 6 months later
Back on effexor for another 9 months.
Reduced off again with no immediate w/d - suddenly got depressed and anxious ++ again 3 or 4 months later.
Back on effexor - this time for 3 years
Reduced off over a month - 6 weeks later terrible anxiety - back on.
Rinse and repeat 4 more times - each time the period before the anxiety comes back got shorter and shorter
Jan - July 2012 75mg down to 37.5mg;, 8/3/12 - 35mg. 8/25/12 - 32mg. 9/11- 28mg, 10/2 - 25mg, 10/29 - 22mg, 11/19 - 19.8mg; 12/11 - 17m,
1/1- 15.5mg; 1/22 -14mg, 2/7 14.9mg, 2/18 - 17.8mg - crashed big time: back to 75mg where i sat for 2 years....

4th  March 2015 - 67.5mg;   31st March - 60mg;  24th April - 53mg; 13th May - 48mg; 26th May - 45mg;  9th June - 41mg; 1 July- 37.5mg; 20 July - 34mg; 11 August - 31mg; 1st Sept - 28mg;  1st Dec - 25.8mg;  28th Dec - 23.2mg; 23rd Jan-21.9mg; Feb 7th- 21mg; March 1st - 20.1mg, March 30th - 18mg


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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:55 AM

Thanks for the compliments ladies. Monica is feeling much better. I do go slowly on the taper, I do a two week hold after the full 10% is reached. Last November things got rather crazy (work related) for a while so I ended up holding for five weeks while it all blew over which helped, and I am thinking of taking a little break when I get to 10mg in a few months. Going back to work after a couple of weeks off was a trial. Not the work it's self but the cold conditions and other events caused the WD to spring up making yesterday a pretty miseable day, dizzy, DR, anger and anxiety, not a good combination. It seems to have settled down a lot today so hopefully it was a quick flash inthe pan and not the start of a bad wave. Just noticed that my hands are shaking and I am having trouble typing, maye some lunch will help that. Hope your all doing better today.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mg it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking


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Posted 14 August 2013 - 09:25 AM

Hi all I haven't been around for a while, but I'm back.  Things have really progressed since January (gees it's been that long? I am down to the single digits now and just dropped to 7.9mg this week.  It hasn't been with out it's trials though, all the typical symptoms with dizziness, brain fog, anhedonia and physical pain being the primary ones.  They are tending to come and go in cycles that pretty much follow the drops.

 

Hope everyone here is doing well.


20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mg it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking


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Posted 14 August 2013 - 09:26 AM

Good to hear. Thanks for the update.


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Posted 15 August 2013 - 06:05 AM

Hey Brass. Looks like we're back,lol. I hope this drop treats you well. I am so sick of feeling blah and waiting and waiting and nothing changing, morning angst etc...that i may do my drop next week regardless and just see what happens. I think we're in a tough spot right now that's all. We can do it!


2 Timothy 1-7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

Effexor 75mg to 262.5mg 2005-2010 for post partum depression

Started having poop out mid 2010, also switched generic brands, then crashed in Dec 2010 (anxiety/ "terror", intense DR, anhedonia, suicidal ideation, chills, insomnia, horrible intrusive thoughts, disorientation, ect)
Rapid "tapered" from 262.5mg Effexor in 3 months

Tried Celexa,Cipralex, then Paxil to deal with wd(this switching made things worse and added akathesia)

Found online support and started tapering Paxil 7 months after quitting Effexor (at this point was having small windows).

Paxil taper: dropped 10% every 4-8 weeks

Year 1 October 2011 to Nov 2012 20mg to 10mg

Year 2 March 2013 to Feb 2014 10mg to 4mg

Year 3 April 2014 to May 2015 4mg to 1.1mg

Year 4 June 2015 1.1mg , dropping by 10% until .5mg, after then dropped by 0.1mg every 5 weeks until 0.1mg.

Finished! Official last dose of 0.1mg on June 15/16


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Posted 15 August 2013 - 09:21 AM

Hi Aberdeen-  yea, I just broke into the dreaded 7mg range.  The first day was rough, but so far the rest of the week has been pretty much WDnormal.  I think I was just too busy last weekend and it hung over onto Monday.  Now we have this other shock to deal with, I'm finding it rather upsetting. Maybe just pushing through and doing your drop will help, luckily you know that the morning stuff will pass later in the day.

 

WDnormal, I am having some dizziness an brain fog, it mainly shows up during breaks at work when I'm not distracted.  Still having some mild anhedonia at times, but in general my emotions have moved up to neutral most of the time instead of nothing.  I do have to keep an eye out for the triggers for my anger, but I'm getting pretty good at spotting them early and getting them under control.  Right now the physical pain has settled down, although my hands and arms are very tired and weak.  Have been getting some misc twitches and jerks, and my legs can get pretty jumpy in the evening.  My wife wanted to talk about some redecorating projects last night and I was able to follow and analyze things and make suggestions and generally cause trouble the entire time, but was pretty tired by the end of it.


20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mg it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking


#21 aberdeen

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 02:59 PM

check your pm's...


2 Timothy 1-7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

Effexor 75mg to 262.5mg 2005-2010 for post partum depression

Started having poop out mid 2010, also switched generic brands, then crashed in Dec 2010 (anxiety/ "terror", intense DR, anhedonia, suicidal ideation, chills, insomnia, horrible intrusive thoughts, disorientation, ect)
Rapid "tapered" from 262.5mg Effexor in 3 months

Tried Celexa,Cipralex, then Paxil to deal with wd(this switching made things worse and added akathesia)

Found online support and started tapering Paxil 7 months after quitting Effexor (at this point was having small windows).

Paxil taper: dropped 10% every 4-8 weeks

Year 1 October 2011 to Nov 2012 20mg to 10mg

Year 2 March 2013 to Feb 2014 10mg to 4mg

Year 3 April 2014 to May 2015 4mg to 1.1mg

Year 4 June 2015 1.1mg , dropping by 10% until .5mg, after then dropped by 0.1mg every 5 weeks until 0.1mg.

Finished! Official last dose of 0.1mg on June 15/16


#22 brassmonkey

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Posted 17 December 2014 - 10:32 AM

Hello everyone. I go be the name Brassmonkey.  I have posted here a few times in the past, but most of you won't remember me.  I am one of the flock of refuges recently from PaxilProgress.  My paxil odyssey began 20 some years ago when I was having  severe anger management problems.  There were a lot of factors involved and I really should have had counseling instead of drugs, but that is a story for another time.  In the beginning paxil served me well, really helping the situation.  Over the years is started to not work so well leading to several updoses and landing me finally on 40mg.  That dose didn't have any positive results and I slowly grew worse and worse, which I later learned was my slipping into tolerance, or what many affectionately know as poopout . (I love technical terms)  One of the tolerance issues was severe pain through out most of my body, which I self medicated with alcohol (bad move, but the over powering craving didn't help).  So three years ago, in poopout at 40mg, supporting a 15oz a night vodka habit and with my life going to h**l very quickly I managed to get lucid enough to make the decision to do something about the situation. 

 

I was considering a change to Wellbutrin (sp) and in researching it I discovered that the drug was my problem.  A little more research lead me to several forums where I learned about the proper way to taper at 10%.  Scared to death and being a symptom wimp I modified the recommended 10% every 6 weeks to sneak up on the symptoms by dropping 2.5% a week for four weeks and then holding an additional two weeks to let things settle out.  This plan was soon dubbed the Brassmonkey Slide Method, and has been quite effective for myself and a number of others.  Over the past three years I have tapered from the original 40mg to my present dose of 2.4mg.  It hasn't been with out incident, but I truly believe that Slide Method has made it quite bearable.  I also CTed the vodka around the same time, but allowed myself two beers a night until the cravings stopped.  I am fast approaching the two year mark of my sobriety, and rarely think about wanting a drink.

 

That's plenty about me for now, the rest will come out in the wash.


20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mg it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 10:43 AM

HELLOOO Brassmonkey.  As another refugee from paxilprogress it was lovely to see this this morning,  XXXX


Put on Prothiaden for severe depression in 1989.  Recovered.   Prescribed Paxil for another bout of depression around 2000.   Have been trying to taper ever since but always crash about 2 months after getting to zero.   Because of the crashes, for years I thought that there was something wrong with me.   Then found that the crashes were simply withdrawal.   Now following a maximum of a 10% reduction every month or so and ready to slow down any time I feel any symptoms whatsoever.  Feeling good:).

7th Jan 15 - 3.6mg

28th Jan 15 - 3.2mg


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 11:05 AM

Hello BrassMonkey!  Good to see you here.  I love how our former site's name gets censored here lol.


Paxil 20mg 1994-2005
Tried to quit twice, finally did it on my 3rd attempt in 2005.

I went from 20mg to zero in about four months, believing at the time that it was a reasonable taper.  It wasn't.  I suffered mostly emotional symptoms: frequent episodes of "anxious depression" lasting for about 17 months before it got noticeably better.


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 11:05 AM

Hello all! We almost need a thread for former PP-ers to re-meet!


2 Timothy 1-7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

Effexor 75mg to 262.5mg 2005-2010 for post partum depression

Started having poop out mid 2010, also switched generic brands, then crashed in Dec 2010 (anxiety/ "terror", intense DR, anhedonia, suicidal ideation, chills, insomnia, horrible intrusive thoughts, disorientation, ect)
Rapid "tapered" from 262.5mg Effexor in 3 months

Tried Celexa,Cipralex, then Paxil to deal with wd(this switching made things worse and added akathesia)

Found online support and started tapering Paxil 7 months after quitting Effexor (at this point was having small windows).

Paxil taper: dropped 10% every 4-8 weeks

Year 1 October 2011 to Nov 2012 20mg to 10mg

Year 2 March 2013 to Feb 2014 10mg to 4mg

Year 3 April 2014 to May 2015 4mg to 1.1mg

Year 4 June 2015 1.1mg , dropping by 10% until .5mg, after then dropped by 0.1mg every 5 weeks until 0.1mg.

Finished! Official last dose of 0.1mg on June 15/16


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 11:08 AM

Hello all! We almost need a thread for former PP-ers to re-meet!

 

There are a lot of people popping up in the off-topic section under my post "**** is closing".  (I censored it myself lol)


Paxil 20mg 1994-2005
Tried to quit twice, finally did it on my 3rd attempt in 2005.

I went from 20mg to zero in about four months, believing at the time that it was a reasonable taper.  It wasn't.  I suffered mostly emotional symptoms: frequent episodes of "anxious depression" lasting for about 17 months before it got noticeably better.


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 11:20 AM

Hi Brassmonkey. It's good to see you here.  :)


CT at 10mg. After 3 months RI at 5mg.

Taper at 10% per month down to 1mg. Taper the last milligram a little too quickly.

After ceasing meds, hit WD.  

Currently 2 months 3 weeks drug free. 

 

Hit protracted withdrawal 3.5 months after coming off Paxil (after 17 years use). I tried to reinstate just 0.5mg of Paxil but my body would no longer accept it. Tried a number of different drugs during a hospital spell. I eventually found one that eased my symptoms a bit. Currently, 10 months (15/05/16) off Paxil in the middle of a bad wave. I'm taking 150mg Clomipramine.

 


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 11:40 AM

So good to see you Brass Monkey!!!!


zoloft 2004-08 tapered too fast(2 weeks)
Luvox 5/08 100 mg 07/10 40mg via small reductions, 08/10 39mg, 09/10 38mg, 10/10 37mg, 11/10 36mg,2/11 35mg, 5/11 34mg, 8/11 33mg, 11/11 32mg, 01/12 31mg, 03/12 30mg, 4/12 29mg, 5/12 28 mg, 8/12 27 mg, 11/12 26 mg, 1/13 25 mg, 3/13 24 mg, 4/13 23 mg,6/13 22 mg, 7/13 21 mg, 8/13 20mg, 10/13 19 mg, 11/13 18 mg, 12/13 17 mg, 1/14 16 mg, 3/14 13 mg, 9/14 10.9 mg,  1/15 10 mg, 3/15  9 mg,  5/15 8 mg. 11/15 7.12 mg.  4/16  5 mg, 6/16   4.5 mg,  9/16 4.2 mg, 1/17 3.48 mg, 2/17  3.2 mg,  4/17 2.2 mg


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 12:23 PM

Hello there.  There are quite a few of us here from PP.  Glad to see you all.


2002-put on amitryptiline for fibromyalgia. 10mg.2004-stopped abruptly. Didn't think it helped.2006 approx.-put on Paxil for mild anxiety 20 mg.2007 upped to 40 mg. not sure why.2011- tapered from 40 to 10. went nuts and went back to 20mg2014- tapered from 20mg to 0 from April to The end of June.current meds- Metformin(type 2 diabetic) and low dose aspirin.Take multi vitamin and vit b12, vit. D and magnesium. 5 months off Paxil. Still suffering.recently added 1.2mg of Paxil to alleviate withdrawals.(Nov 30)Dropped to .9mg because having symptoms from reinstatement.(dec 23)<p>taper to .76mg-.8mg (Feb 3) approx. weight .010 to about .008-.009 on scale.
.6mg (march 19th.) .5mg(April 19th)
.4mg(April 27th)
.2 (June 27th)

0mg.  done taper at beginning of August.


#30 NowhereMan76

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Posted 17 December 2014 - 12:27 PM

Good to see my PP friends.  It'll take a little while to get used to the subtle differences between the actual message board technology used here vs. "the site that shall not be named."


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Off and on from 2004 to 2008 - Lexapro 10MG
October 2008 - Lexapro 10MG
Late April 2012 - Lexapro 5MG
Late August 2012 - Cold Turkey

#31 brassmonkey

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Posted 17 December 2014 - 12:49 PM

Good to see everyone making the switch.  I hope they don't think we are trying to take over.


20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mg it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 01:26 PM

Ha! Found ya Tom! Rumor on the street is that PP had to close because your journal was taking up too much space on the server. LOL

 

Glad to see you on here and am looking forward to keeping up with you. 


First panic attack 2/94. On Prozac for 6 months with no relief. Then switched to imipramine for 6 months. Started on 30mg Paxil in 12/97 for panic attacks and anxiety. Worked fine until 2/13. Dose increased to 40mg and anxiety and panic got worse. Started tapering from 40mg in 11/13. Currently at 10.9mg and feeling better. Intermittent Xanax use throughout.


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 01:34 PM

Good to see everyone making the switch.  I hope they don't think we are trying to take over.

Not at all brassmonkey.  It is good to see you all.

 

By the way, you may or may not know but I posted as Palm on the site.


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Started taper of Adderall, Wellbutrin XL, Remeron, and Doxepin in 2006
Finished taper on June 10, 2010

Diagnosed with sleep apnea 2012 and on pap machine

Dealing with protracted sleep issues


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 01:48 PM

HERE!!!!
Paxil start September 2003 due to Fluoroquinolone adverse reaction that I wish doc. knew what it was. 10mg. most of the time with a few short runs of 20mg. FAST tapered 3 times and finally hit poop out or a reaction to nsaid's in Nov.2013. Started a 10% taper Jan. 2014 and have been ok until Sept 14 and went through a short hell. Now plodding through and looking for the light with unrelenting insomnia and pain, fog, loss of interests....<p>12/20/14 - .8mg.
1/01/15 - .75 mg.
1/15/15 - .42 mg. better sleep now, hope it continues...
2/11-15 - .25 mg. doing really good!! 2 weeks feel 85% of old me!
3/17/15 .14 mg. Knee pain bad!
4/07/15 .05 mg. this is so small now that I am estimating and just licking it off palm small as a "." And I'm using small text..
4/13/15 NOTHING !!!! Took my last little micro dose on 4/12/15. 😃👍👍👍

#35 Muddles

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Posted 17 December 2014 - 01:55 PM

Hi Aberdeen and brass monkey! I was Sare2 over there but think I outstayed my welcome - a few could not deal with my insanity in this hell!

Lovely moderators on here (and members of course) who have helped me so much. I've always felt at home here...I hope you do too.
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Severe adverse reaction
Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on.
Poop out - December 2013
15mg
Currently on 13.5mg,
April 12mg
May 10th - 11mg
June 10th - 10mg
July 8th - 9mg
September - 0mg

#36 Muddles

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Posted 17 December 2014 - 01:55 PM

And Palm - hello!
2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription.
Severe adverse reaction
Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on.
Poop out - December 2013
15mg
Currently on 13.5mg,
April 12mg
May 10th - 11mg
June 10th - 10mg
July 8th - 9mg
September - 0mg





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