Caspahthefriendly Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 I went in for a massage today to relax the lasy offered to do craniosacral therapy and it did wonders for my improvemet in prolonged withdrawal im ten months off zoloft and that treatment was incredible . It promotes natural healing of central nervous system . I reccomend it to anyone first real thing that has shown improvement in my recovery . It isnt a cure but it defenitley has promoted healing and relaxation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meimeiquest Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 How is it done? I was on a forum for kids and many moms raved but I never really understood it. Glad it helped, whatever it is! 1st round Prozac 1989/90, clear depression symptoms. 2nd round Prozac started 1999 when admitted to dr. I was tired. Prozac pooped out, switch to Cymbalta 3/2006. Diagnosed with bipolar disorder due to mania 6/2006--then I was taken abruptly off Cymbalta and didn't know I had SSRI withdrawal. Lots of meds for my intractable "bipolar" symptoms. Zyprexa started about 9/06, mostly 5mg. Tapered 4/12 through12/29/12 Wellbutrin. XL 300 mg started 1/07, tapered 1/18/13 through 7/8/13 Oxazepam mostly continuously since 6/06, 30mg since 12/12, tapered 1.17.14 through 8.26.15 11/06 Lithium 600mg twice daily, 2.2.14 400mg TID DIY liquid, 2.12.14 1150mg, 3.2.14 1100mg, 3.18.14 1075mg, 4/14 updose to 1100mg, 6.1.14 900 mg capsules 7.8.14 810mg, 8.17.14 725mg, 8.24.24 700mg...10.22.14 487.5mg, 3.9.15 475mg, 4.1.15 462.5mg 4.21.15 450mg 8.11.15 375mg, 11.28.15 362.5mg, back to 375mg four days later, 3.4.16 updose to 475 (too much going on to risk trouble) 9/4/13 Toprol-XL 25mg daily for sudden hypertension, tapered 11.12.13 through 5.3.14, last 10 days or so switched to atenolol 7.4.14 Started Walsh Protocol 56 years old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caspahthefriendly Posted September 10, 2013 Author Share Posted September 10, 2013 CranioSacral Therapy is a gentle non invasive manual therapy technique usued to evaluate and treat body function by regulating the flow of cerebrospinal fluid to enhance the bodys natural healing capabilities. The therapist essentialy helps the body release restrictions which it has been unable to overcome on its own. The craniosacral system plays a vital role of maintaining the enviornment in which the central nervous system functions. Since the brain and spinal cord are contained within the cns it is easy to see the craniosacral system has powerful influence ocer a wide variety of bodily functiona Te terapist lightly palpitates the clients body and follows cues from the clients body on how to procceed . Therapy has been shown to alleviate many conditions spinal cord injuries migraine headaches chronic fatigue motor coordination problems tmj stress an tension related problems 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caspahthefriendly Posted September 10, 2013 Author Share Posted September 10, 2013 Its kind of like a massage it brought out deep emotions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted September 12, 2013 Administrator Share Posted September 12, 2013 What exactly did she do? Did she massage your head? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caspahthefriendly Posted September 12, 2013 Author Share Posted September 12, 2013 Asian cups that squeeze to ur skin to get the blood flowing Move head in about ten different positions A whole bunch of different techniques . It felt like i could feel again for the first time i was able to cry for real in a long time and im a guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
findingme Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 what kind of credentials does this type of therapist have? Since approximately 1992 have been on and off Paxil , Prozac(had a horrible reaction), Lorazepam , Celexa, Lexapro, Risperdal ( which was supposed to "kick start" the Lexapro) , and Wellbutrin... By 2013, I was only on Wellbutrin and generic Lexapro ( 20mg) I weaned successfully off the Wellbutrin, but by the time I was down to 10mg Lexapro, I suffered panic attacks on bridges, and creeping depression , July 2014, reinstated 20 mg generic Lexapro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoe Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 I am so glad you posted this I am considering going to an acupuncturist who offers that. So glad that it helped you!! Jan. 1994 Pamelor 2000 switched to Zoloft 2011 Zoloft pooped out- Dr. switched me directly to Lexapro15mg -had a horrible 6mths 2013 upped Lexapro to 20 mgs-pooped out June 2013 Dr. added 150 Wellbutrin to Lexapro. July 2013 Switched back to Zoloft 100mgs.Was still taking Wellbutrin. Lots of anxiety from the Wellbutrin July 2013 Started to wean Wellbutrin- off by Sept. Oct. 2013 added 400 mgs of Neurotin to the Zoloft Jan 2014 Tapered off of the Zoloft and onto Prozac 30 mgs. Also still taking 400 mgs Neurotin Feb 2014 Reduced Prozac to 13 mgs. Still taking 400 mgs Neurotin Aug. 2014 Prozac 13 mgs. Finished with Neurotin. .7 Risperadol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
findingme Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 I found a massage therapist certified in CranioSacral .... my appt is a few weeks away ..can't wait ! Since approximately 1992 have been on and off Paxil , Prozac(had a horrible reaction), Lorazepam , Celexa, Lexapro, Risperdal ( which was supposed to "kick start" the Lexapro) , and Wellbutrin... By 2013, I was only on Wellbutrin and generic Lexapro ( 20mg) I weaned successfully off the Wellbutrin, but by the time I was down to 10mg Lexapro, I suffered panic attacks on bridges, and creeping depression , July 2014, reinstated 20 mg generic Lexapro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiaK Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 I have also found cranial sacral to be exceptional...but I've not found someone to do it here on a regular basis...I was spoiled because one of my best friends is a chiropractor who is especially gifted...so it's hard to find people as good as she was...and she's not nearby now. 1 Everything Matters: Beyond Meds https://beyondmeds.com/ withdrawn from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caspahthefriendly Posted September 26, 2013 Author Share Posted September 26, 2013 Findingme i hope it helps you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
findingme Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 thanks, caspa. Since approximately 1992 have been on and off Paxil , Prozac(had a horrible reaction), Lorazepam , Celexa, Lexapro, Risperdal ( which was supposed to "kick start" the Lexapro) , and Wellbutrin... By 2013, I was only on Wellbutrin and generic Lexapro ( 20mg) I weaned successfully off the Wellbutrin, but by the time I was down to 10mg Lexapro, I suffered panic attacks on bridges, and creeping depression , July 2014, reinstated 20 mg generic Lexapro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayPea Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 CST- love it! 1 neurologically challenged Copaxone, Baclofen Oxybutynin and L.D.N. for multiple sclerosis and on Dilatin for seizure disorder Celexa 20 then 40 for at least 7 years Started first reduction in Jan 2015, but with generic- bad idea. Lasted 3 days Started again Feb 1 2015. Feb 1- 40 to 37.5 Feb 24- 37.5 to 35 March 24- 35 to 32.5 April 28- 32.5 to 30 June 9- 30 to 27.5 July 1- 27.5 to 25 July 27-25 to 22.5 Aug 18- 22.5 to 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KT38 Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 I'm about to try craniosacral therapy in a couple weeks and now nervous that might make me worse. Has anyone tried it? I feel like I have a heavy flu-like weight in me everyday with so much weight in my stomach and brain that there is nothing good in the world. Like it feels like toxic poison going through me. Dec 2014 I tried Zoloft 25mg for one week (adverse reaction - extreme anxiety and felt like I was on an amphetamine). Dr. said to quit cold turkey, so I not only quit Zoloft but also 2 weeks of Xanax .25mg -- extreme dizziness, hyperarousal and anxiety began! On Jan. 29, 2015 my psychiatrist put me on new stuff and this is how my next 2 months and 7 days looked like (I was having the same bad reactions to all of these):Effexor XR 37.5mg (3 days) - throwing up, heart palpations, night tremors/convulsions or something where whole body shakes for a second, Prozac 10mg (15 days), Prozac 20mg (7 days) - internal restlessness, electric current through body/brain (not zaps), agitation, intense fear and could no longer nap at this point (still can't today because of this), Lexapro 5mg (4 days) - same as Prozac, a horror show...extreme internal agitation, Lexapro 7.5mg (2 days), Lexapro 10mg (16 days), Zoloft 12.5mg (3 days)...she said try it again since my blood relative does well on it, Zoloft 25mg (7 days) - same as before and getting worse!! Zoloft 50mg (6 days), Zoloft 25mg (4 days and then came off cold turkey on April 8, 2015). I used Xanax .25mg about 7 times per month through all of this until June 30, 2015 (my last benzo dose). Extreme anxiety, nervous system traumatized, mental akathisia, anger triggered by nothing but the brain totally going off on its own, feeling of a pressurized electric current going through me like my brain and body are trying to explode, stress reaction x10000 to everything, waking in terror lasting all day, fear, very sensitive, brain can't keep up, don't know what to do with myself, feeling like everything is going too fast and I can't keep up, helium head, deep depression like something is ripping out my soul, out of my mind, can hardly drive or be alone, cognitive issues, simple tasks are so complex and straining, feel disturbed because the brain can't process anything right even though your brain tries so hard and it makes you go mad, episodes of deep anguish with a sick toxic poison feeling (like you have some unknown virus). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepinghope Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 KT38 how did you get on with the craniosacral therapy? I'm considering seeing a practitioner if I can find one near me - my vet recommended it might be good for my horse and after reading up on it, it sounds like it might help me too. 2002 - Prescribed fluoxetine 20mg for mild situational depression and anxiety. Over the years also briefly swapped about on citalopram, sertraline and venlafaxine during poop out. 2012 - Cold turkeyed fluoxetine. Within 3 months was suffering from aggression, anxiety, panic attacks and paranoia. GP put me back on tablets as I was 'relapsing'. I didn't know anything about WD then. Jul 15 - Wanted to quit fluoxetine again so tapered off (skipping doses) over 6 weeks under advice of GP. Aug 15 - Last fluoxetine dose end of August 2015. Dec 15 - Had my first real crash after discontinuing. Found this site. Aug-Dec 16 - Signed off work because of a herniated disc & severe sciatica. Prescribed diazepam (took for 6 days and got WD symptoms on stopping; nausea, morning cortisol spikes, anxiety, anger) and codeine which I was on for 4 mths. Can confirm - opiate WD is nasty but nowhere near as bad or prolonged as SSRI WD!Withdrawal symptoms have included: extreme anger and irritability, lethargy, depression and weepiness, anxiety, stomach upsets, loss of appetite, excessive sweating, muscle and back pain, insomnia, cortisol surges, akathisia, inability to cope with stress.Things that help: herbal tinctures (rose, lemon balm, chamomile and skullcap), seaweed baths & epsom salt baths, fish oil and magnesium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daisies24 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 KT38, I would be interested to know if it helped you, as well? I saw my functional medicine doctor yesterday and she also recommended craniosacral therapy (as well as biofeedback, visceral massage, acupuncture, and meditation). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus Erell Posted April 23, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted April 23, 2021 Bumping this thread : People, have you tried and would you agree to share your experience ? ( @Gridley : let me know if it's ok to tag you : you mentionned this, would you agree to share your experience? ) 2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam. 2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg. 2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg). 25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details : topic/21457 Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil Current medication : * 7pm Diazepam : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020) * 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)/ 6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21) I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted April 23, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted April 23, 2021 On 4/12/2017 at 6:48 AM, Daisies24 said: she also recommended craniosacral therapy (as well as biofeedback, visceral massage, acupuncture, and meditation). 5 hours ago, Erell said: ( @Gridley : let me know if it's ok to tag you : you mentionned this, would you agree to share your experience? ) I went once a week for several months to a craniosacral therapist with a very good reputation, and I would have to say that she wasn't able to help regarding withdrawal symptoms. She was very intuitive and knowledgeable but finally she said that withdrawal was really outside the bounds of her practice. Others may have had different experiences, but that was mine. I was disappointed, as I had had high hopes. The sessions were relaxing while ongoing but had no lasting effect. Withdrawal is a beast that very few therapists, including alternative therapists, have a grasp on. I had a similar experience with an excellent chiropractor here. I had severe and constant back of the neck pain and the chiropractor worked very hard to relieve the situation but without success. Finally (and this is the way so often with withdrawal) time proved the only cure and the pain just went away. I have read accounts on SA of good experiences with acupuncturists. If you do acupuncture, be sure you tell the therapist you want work done only on sedating, not activating, points. 2 Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of April 1: 6.8mg Taper is 91% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus Erell Posted April 23, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted April 23, 2021 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Gridley said: Finally (and this is the way so often with withdrawal) time proved the only cure and the pain just went away. I agree, I don't think there are " WD cure", time seems to be the real healer. Also agree that therapists don't understand WD ! I'm looking with curiosity to experiences like this or acupuncture, with the idea that even if it can't cure WD it might help a bit with some symptoms, muscular pain/tension for example. Haven't decided yet if I'll give it a try one day, still feeling that I'm hypersensitive and wanna be careful. But happy to read others' experiences, thank you for sharing ☺ Edited April 23, 2021 by Erell 1 2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam. 2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg. 2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg). 25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details : topic/21457 Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil Current medication : * 7pm Diazepam : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020) * 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)/ 6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21) I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariel Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) In my third year of WD I experimented with biodynamic craniosacral therapy (biodynamic CST) treatments. I was lucky enough to meet a few talented practitioners and had good experiences. Very relaxing and helps facilitate deep rest and release. They do this thing where they help your jaw unclench by putting a (gloved) finger in your mouth and very gently touching from the inside of the cheek. That was such a relief, as I had profound jaw tension. They also did something to help relax the muscles, tissues, and or blood vessels on my scalp and all around my neck, which provided so much relief as well. One memorable session sent me into a wave that lasted a day, then the day after I had a window that was among the best I've ever felt in all my years of WD to date. Lasted about half a day and was incredible. Who knows how or why it works, it's all very mysterious. If I were to try any sort of body work again today I'd go with the biodynamic CST over regular massage. It's crucial to only use the biodynamic modality, in my opinion, as it's extremely gentle and not manipulative at all. I'm not sure I could handle regular massage right now, too intense, too stimulating/activating for the nervous system. Edited June 7, 2022 by Ariel 1 1996-2018 - misc. polypharmacy, incl. SSRIs, SNRIs, neuroleptics, lithium, benzos, stimulants, antihistamines, etc. (approx. 30+ drugs) 2012-2018 - 10mg lexapro/escitalopram (20mg?) Jan. 2018 - 10mg -> 5mg, then from 5mg -> 2.5mg, then 0mg --> July 2018 - 0mg 2017(?)-2020 - vyvanse/lisdexamfetamine 60-70mg 2020-2021 - 70mg down to 0mg --> July 2021 - 0mg March-April 2021 - vortioxetine 5-10mg (approx. 7 weeks total; CT) --> April 28th, 2021 - 0mg supplements: magnesium powder (dissolved in water) as needed throughout the day; 1 tsp fish oil w/ morning meal; 2mg melatonin August 1, 2022 - 1 mg melatonin Courage is fear that has said its prayers. - Karle Wilson Baker love and justice are not two. without inner change, there can be no outer change; without collective change, no change matters. - Rev. angel Kyodo williams Holding multiple truths. Knowing that everyone has their own accurate view of the way things are. - text on homemade banner at Afiya house I am not a medical professional; this is not medical advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilla Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Thanks for this info, I think perhaps NIS was too stimulating for me as well. I have tried acupuncture for the anxiety, and this seems to not be too stimulating for me. Paxil 2008 20mg 2016 40mg feb 21 2022 20mg, feb 28 0mg April 23 20mg April 24 40mg April 26 20mg April 27 10mg April 28 0mg May 7 10mg May 17 0mg Duloxitine Feb. 21, ‘22-30mg feb 28 60mg March 14 0mg April 21. 30mg April 26 60mg April 28 30mg am/60mg pm May 7 60mg am currently still on Lexapro 2022 April 14 5 mg April 18 10m April 21 0mg Trazodone April 24 50mg Currently on 60mg dulox and 50mg Trazadone taking hydroxyzine and xanax as needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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