shamaan Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Hey GiaK, Great book suggestion, I actually bought it today as I'm really interested in this stuff. But I was wondering how to get your body back into balance , when most of the signs of imbalance are a consequence of withdrawal? Like for example I have something that looks like Terry's nails ( red stripe on top of my fingernails ) , I know this is because of withdrawal , so i can't really do something about it ,except waiting. It's hard to distinguish between something that is a consequence of WD , and something that isn't. So my question is , is it possible to get my body back into balance now , or do I have to wait until after withdrawal to really practise these things? Effexor free for 36 months. Still on 25mg of Solian. Tapering Xanax and on a dose of 0,15mg , splitted in four doses. Last reductions: 9/06: 1.875% 7/07: 2.5% 22/07: 1.96% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiaK Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 balancing is balancing...you do what you can now and moving forward... it doesn't matter what got our bodies out of balance, the general theories works in any case...they're both totally holistic and we do fit into the whole. anyway, that's why I can work with this guy...he gets it because he can see that my body is simply grossly out of whack...from the drugs...but that again, is secondary to it simply being grossly out of whack...and human bodies get out of whack on a foundational level in certain consistent ways (with lots of variables, of course, for the individual) everything is on a continuum and spectrum so believe it or not, our radical experience is too. the stuff I've been reading in his book ties together almost a decade of what I've been observing in my body...it gives me and him a common vocabulary as well which is wonderful and it offers suggestions for continued and deeper healing that I can actually benefit from. No one has been able to give me effective or safe suggestions since the beginning of this. So that's new and really wonderful. it should be made clear that just because the theory allows for holding the whole of life in this profoundly holistic manner that allows those who really understand it to not harm their clients and patients, that most practitioners don't get it in that way...what I'm learning is how to utilize these theories to heal myself...I still don't expect anyone else to do the job at this point, though it's always nice when we can find folks who can understand and help us in deeply meaningful ways. Everything Matters: Beyond Meds https://beyondmeds.com/ withdrawn from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiaK Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 more on topic from Shades of Awakening: email, from Dabney: This week I’m sharing my latest interview with Monica Cassani, creator and blogger at Beyond Meds: Everything Matters. I reached out to Monica last year sometime and we hit it off. One of the topics we really connect around is the intersection between food and the psyche as your body integrates, upgrades and detoxes on the healing journey. Monica has seen the mental health system from both sides – as a social worker and as a person whose life was severely ruptured by psychiatric drugs. Beyond Meds documents and shares many natural methods of self-care for finding and sustaining health in body, mind and spirit. In this interview, we talk about: The relationship between food and the psyche How healing and detoxing with whole foods can actually unearth past memories and emotions Why informing yourself with science AND your own inner knowing is key to finding out what works for you What your gut health has to do with your emotional and mental health Listen to the Full Interview HERE(Yes, the replay will continue to be available after the interview airs Wed. March 10th, 10:00AM Pacific) Monica also shared with us a PDF that includes her story as well as a compilation of blogs from Beyond Meds that specifically address the topics of food, food sensitivities, gut health and healing from psych meds. Download the PDF HEREObviously, this is a rich and broad topic that brings up a lot of room for discussion, learning and sharing around changing relationship to food, food sensitivities and how to support holistic healing as you ‘wake up.’ Hop onto the Shades of Awakening Facebook page to share your thoughts on this interview and join the discussion! Enjoy! Dabney Everything Matters: Beyond Meds https://beyondmeds.com/ withdrawn from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greentrain Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Thanks for the book suggestion, Monica! I read it years ago and some of it just didn't make sense to me at that point in my life but now - yes for sure - it is resonating. I am re-reading it now. I hope you're enjoying herbal school. Are food sensitivities your primary residual symptom? My neuro-emotions have regulated, unless I shake up my nervous system with a too aggressive healing modality, but the physical pain is still very real and wide spread at almost 22 months off Lexapro. It's quite astounding. in gratitude, green 9/2006 Began Lexapro 1/2014 Began taper from 15mg Cut dose by 2.5 mg every two weeks or until stabilized 5/25/2014 Last dose Experienced: Anxiety/depression, intrusive thoughts, dizziness, de-personalization, mood swings, stomach pains, nausea, headaches, gastro upset, anger, many spells of brain fog, chills, water retention, hypoglycemia, heart palpitations, weight gain, light headedness, muscle constriction - jaw, chest, neck, cortisol surges waking me several times at night with heart racing, blurry eyesight / visual snow, neuropathic pain, burning/numbness in hands and feet, muscle twitching, light sensitivity, sinuses, temperature disregulation, ear zaps, FEAR, hopelessness, doom and gloom, muscle spasms and tension across whole body, low energy, apathy, depression, constant post nasal drip, ear pain, jaw pain and cracking, tooth pain, burning/tingling/numbing, right rib cage pain FOREVER, lymph congestion, hypersensitivity to many foods and many supplements, bladder/ urination issues, creaky bones, sallow, yellow skin on hands/feet, emotional dysregulation, back pain, vivid dreams, mucus, peeling lips. What's left: Low energy some days, muscle pain, hormone imbalance, GI stuff here and there, eye floaters, peeling, red lips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiaK Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I don't think in terms of primary symptoms...it's all interconnected and I can't separate things out really...not even if I try. I don't even think of food sensitivities as the problem really...toxicity is the problem...an impaired detoxification system is the problem...food sensitivities are actually symptoms of that. ... I am gaining clarity if nothing else. Everything Matters: Beyond Meds https://beyondmeds.com/ withdrawn from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiaK Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 oh, and I'm not in herbal school...not sure why you thought that...I did hope to attend but wasn't able to in january...I don't remember mentioning that Everything Matters: Beyond Meds https://beyondmeds.com/ withdrawn from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted March 12, 2016 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 12, 2016 Cool. Thanks for sharing both the book and the interview. I am enjoying cartoons today.......lol........Thank you GiaK and Love you and your work.............seriously. Signed: someone you have helped more than you could possibly know. Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I don't think in terms of primary symptoms...it's all interconnected and I can't separate things out really...not even if I try. I don't even think of food sensitivities as the problem really...toxicity is the problem...an impaired detoxification system is the problem...food sensitivities are actually symptoms of that. ... I am gaining clarity if nothing else. They have discovered a new system in the brain that detoxes the brain while we sleep http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/11546-sleep-brain-health/ Gia what do you think of this the brain does run all in the body in one way or another.. could this be the source of all issues do you think? WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiaK Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 from the article: "Once seen as a blank screen, the sleeping brain is emerging as an energetic and purposeful machine." those kinds of asinine assumptions don't exist in Chinese and Ayurvedic...which is why I no longer look to western medical science, in general, who are busy, most often, at reinventing the wheel...and doing it poorly as well. and also from what you shared:"According to Ayurveda, these glymphatics are an understood system and called “tarpaka kapha,” which is the aspect of the kapha dosha that literally drains toxins from the brain into the cerebral spinal fluid. If these channels become congested, the mood can shift, memory can become compromised, and the brain can become foggy. The cause of this imbalance can be emotional trauma or the cumulative impact of stress, lack of sleep, and digestive weakness. http://lifespa.com/c...r-brains-lymph/" so, yeah, Ayurveda has been on top of it for thousands of years. I'm not saying western scientific medical theory is useless all the time...but for me, right now, in this particular (and also idiosyncratic) personal endeavor that is truly life and death healing...it pretty much is. Everything Matters: Beyond Meds https://beyondmeds.com/ withdrawn from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greentrain Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Oh, I thought I read on your blog that you were starting herbal school. I didn't read it here. Thank you again for all you do! I have learned so much through your blog. 9/2006 Began Lexapro 1/2014 Began taper from 15mg Cut dose by 2.5 mg every two weeks or until stabilized 5/25/2014 Last dose Experienced: Anxiety/depression, intrusive thoughts, dizziness, de-personalization, mood swings, stomach pains, nausea, headaches, gastro upset, anger, many spells of brain fog, chills, water retention, hypoglycemia, heart palpitations, weight gain, light headedness, muscle constriction - jaw, chest, neck, cortisol surges waking me several times at night with heart racing, blurry eyesight / visual snow, neuropathic pain, burning/numbness in hands and feet, muscle twitching, light sensitivity, sinuses, temperature disregulation, ear zaps, FEAR, hopelessness, doom and gloom, muscle spasms and tension across whole body, low energy, apathy, depression, constant post nasal drip, ear pain, jaw pain and cracking, tooth pain, burning/tingling/numbing, right rib cage pain FOREVER, lymph congestion, hypersensitivity to many foods and many supplements, bladder/ urination issues, creaky bones, sallow, yellow skin on hands/feet, emotional dysregulation, back pain, vivid dreams, mucus, peeling lips. What's left: Low energy some days, muscle pain, hormone imbalance, GI stuff here and there, eye floaters, peeling, red lips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiaK Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 ah! I must have mentioned it...but it didn't happen I didn't feel well enough in January when it was scheduled to start...couldn't make commitments at that point... thing are looking up with the spring. I love the spring ... everything picks up...every year. Paul Pitchford the author of that book I'm talking about in this thread says that the detoxification pathways all open up at this time of year...my body agrees...that is for sure... anyway...I did one more post yesterday in this series... Here it is: Healing isn't a choice for me -- it's an imperative; my body is in charge http://wp.me/p5nnb-cXR Everything Matters: Beyond Meds https://beyondmeds.com/ withdrawn from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus KarenB Posted March 15, 2016 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 15, 2016 Thank you GiaK, I am always interested in what you are learning about. I originally found S/A via your blog, and both places very much resonate with my deep belief that we find our own path to healing, and that healing can indeed be found. Thank you for the inspiration, and for the time you've given to help others. Boy, words are so inadequate when you just want to really thank someone who has helped turn your life around. It's a heart-felt feeling I've got when I think of you . Karen x 2010 Fluoxetine 20mg. 2011 Escitalopram 20mg. 2013 Tapered badly and destabilised CNS. Effexor 150mg. 2015 Begin using info at SurvivingAntidepressants. Cut 10% - bad w/d 2 months, held 1 month. Micro-tapering: four weekly 0.4% cuts, hold 4 weeks (struggling with symptoms). 8 month hold. 2017 Micro-tapering: four weekly 1% cuts, hold 4 weeks (symptoms almost non-existent). 2020 Still micro-tapering. Just over 2/3 of the way off effexor. Minimal symptoms, - and sleeping well. Supplements: Fish oil, vitamin C, iron, oat-straw tea, nettle tea. 2023 Now on 7 micro-beads of Effexor. Minimal symptoms but much more time needed between drops. 'The possibility of renewal exists so long as life exists.' Dr Gabor Mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greentrain Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 ah! I must have mentioned it...but it didn't happen I didn't feel well enough in January when it was scheduled to start...couldn't make commitments at that point... thing are looking up with the spring. I love the spring ... everything picks up...every year. Paul Pitchford the author of that book I'm talking about in this thread says that the detoxification pathways all open up at this time of year...my body agrees...that is for sure... anyway...I did one more post yesterday in this series... Here it is: Healing isn't a choice for me -- it's an imperative; my body is in charge http://wp.me/p5nnb-cXR My body agrees, too! Over the last few days, I've literally been shedding heaviness and persistent pain that has been dragging me down since mid-February. Now that I think about it...I've been choosing lighter herbs of red rasp leaf, lemon balm, chamomile, calendula over my stalwarts of burdock, ginger, cinnamon and dandelion and I've noticed that in the last week I've extended my overnight fast to 16 hours pretty much unconsciously. I hope this doesn't make you feel uncomfortable but I literally have a folder in my email titled "monica wisdom" packed with writings that resonate with me which I refer to when this process has me in a bind and I've lost the plot. Detox pathways opening in the spring is yet another gem! thank you. 9/2006 Began Lexapro 1/2014 Began taper from 15mg Cut dose by 2.5 mg every two weeks or until stabilized 5/25/2014 Last dose Experienced: Anxiety/depression, intrusive thoughts, dizziness, de-personalization, mood swings, stomach pains, nausea, headaches, gastro upset, anger, many spells of brain fog, chills, water retention, hypoglycemia, heart palpitations, weight gain, light headedness, muscle constriction - jaw, chest, neck, cortisol surges waking me several times at night with heart racing, blurry eyesight / visual snow, neuropathic pain, burning/numbness in hands and feet, muscle twitching, light sensitivity, sinuses, temperature disregulation, ear zaps, FEAR, hopelessness, doom and gloom, muscle spasms and tension across whole body, low energy, apathy, depression, constant post nasal drip, ear pain, jaw pain and cracking, tooth pain, burning/tingling/numbing, right rib cage pain FOREVER, lymph congestion, hypersensitivity to many foods and many supplements, bladder/ urination issues, creaky bones, sallow, yellow skin on hands/feet, emotional dysregulation, back pain, vivid dreams, mucus, peeling lips. What's left: Low energy some days, muscle pain, hormone imbalance, GI stuff here and there, eye floaters, peeling, red lips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiaK Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 and another one from today: Substances/foods that used to make me trip like I was on acid http://wp.me/p5nnb-cZw Everything Matters: Beyond Meds https://beyondmeds.com/ withdrawn from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted March 18, 2016 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 18, 2016 Seriously...........colostrum you tried??? I don't know........something about that..........like where did you get it, etc. etc.?? Made me chuckle. It was one of the ones that made you feel like you were dying/hives. Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiaK Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 goat milk...Mt. Capra http://amzn.to/1Vl4pei good brand, high quality and guaranteed not to harm baby goats. it's a very potent immune system and gut healer. Everything Matters: Beyond Meds https://beyondmeds.com/ withdrawn from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted March 18, 2016 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 18, 2016 Ahhh. Thanks Gia. I could use some immune and gut healing I am sure. Just wondered and assumed it was human...........not the brightest bulb on the planet anymore am I(said kindly to myself). I have every hope to shine brighter and wiser one day real soon.......... And wow, fair price........I imagine one could even do partial capsules to start as well. Interesting......as I haven't tied in any foods to psychotic reactions...........yet..........I really have to get more vigilant with self documenting and better awareness. Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 and another one from today: Substances/foods that used to make me trip like I was on acid http://wp.me/p5nnb-cZw will add to your list of acid like reactions early days watermelon walnuts avocado coffee made me extremely dizzy fall down dizzy I can eat them all now but am still careful not to have too much. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiaK Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Latest post on topic: This started as a status update on Facebook and has grown into a post. Sorry about it’s disjointed presentation. I just figured I’d share it here for those who don’t engage in the social media circus that is Facebook. I’m doing detox…hardcore, heavy metals, viruses, candida (and whatever else is being pulled out as I do this thing)…as it comes out so does the psychic sludge…all correlated with **** in the physical body, yes…really amazing and wonderful and beautiful…if also rough going… this has been a many year process…now it’s all becoming focused and clear as I come to have some more profound understanding of this process and how it manifests for me. I’ve written some about it…I recommend the work of Paul Pitchford who has most recently helped me understand what I’ve been doing all along and then focused me with consciousness and informed my intuitions moving forward so that it’s going much more smoothly now. See more here: Healing isn’t a choice for me — it’s an imperative; my body is in charge Shades of awakening interview: food sensitivities and the psyche Food and diet for profound healing Heal with whole foods: transform body/mind/spirit. Heal drug damage too Also: Healing is a shocking process: protracted psych drug withdrawal syndrome (iatrogenic brain injury Advanced adventures in healing the gut: biofilm eradication Little update because people are asking about protocols: I don’t do protocols…they’re all far too aggressive…I let my body lead the way with an intuitive process that’s been developing over years. With the injured nervous system protocols are pretty much always far too aggressive, and frankly a protocol is, by definition, not considering individuals…it’s someone else’s trip imposed on others. Sometimes they work for some people but those of us with these sort of injuries and chronic illnesses that are marked with severe hyper-sensitivities can’t do detox outside of gentle food based dietary changes for a long time in some instances…it then takes many years. I’ve been detoxing slowly mostly by gentle dietary means for years. I can now, finally, do more targeted detox. Everyone is different…so I rarely give particulars about my journey. We all have to figure out stuff for our selves. “Protocols” for me are dangerous! Copying another exactly is also not wise. Everything Matters: Beyond Meds https://beyondmeds.com/ withdrawn from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasel Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Can any one suggest foods that reacted well during withdrawal? I have only a few that don't bother me oatmeal whole grain bread sweet potato lamb veggies melon pear I just want to get some possible suggestions I am scared to try things thanks Zoloft 6mg gabapentin 600 mg lamictal 25 mg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus Petunia Posted May 21, 2016 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) In general, people seem to recover best on a simple diet of basic, organic fresh meats, vegetables and some fruit. Eliminating sugar, preservatives and processed foods seems to help, along with alcohol and caffeine. But I've seen individual reactions to just about everything, so its really a matter of trying a small amount of a new food and finding how you react. It sounds like you're on the right track, maybe try some rice one day, different kinds of meats, probably stick to the lower sugar and lower acid fruits. Some of my favorite withdrawal foods have been eggs, ricotta cheese, pumpkin seeds, brazil nuts, almonds and almond butter, green smoothies with pea protein rather than soy or whey. I've been able to tolerate a small amount of raw, organic honey which I use in decaff tea and herb teas. But I think I've been quite lucky and haven't had to be as restrictive as some people. Here is a link to our related topic: Food sensitivities - Symptoms and self-care - Surviving Antidepressants *topics merged Edited May 29, 2016 by Petunia updated I'm not a doctor. My comments are not medical advise. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I've learned. Please discuss your situation with a medical practitioner who has knowledge of tapering and withdrawal...if you are lucky enough to find one. My Introduction Thread Full Drug and Withdrawal History Brief Summary Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety) Xanax PRN ~ Various other drugs over the years for side effects 2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010 Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms Failed reinstatement of Lexapro and trial of Prozac (became suicidal) May 2013 Found SA, learned about withdrawal, stopped taking drugs...healing begins. Protracted withdrawal, with a very sensitized nervous system, slowly recovering as time passes Supplements which have helped: Vitamin C, Magnesium, Taurine Bad reactions: Many supplements but mostly fish oil and Vitamin D June 2016 - Started daily juicing, mostly vegetables and lots of greens. Aug 2016 - Oct 2016 Best window ever, felt almost completely recovered Oct 2016 -Symptoms returned - bad days and less bad days. April 2018 - No windows, but significant improvement, it feels like permanent full recovery is close. VIDEO: Where did the chemical imbalance theory come from? VIDEO: How are psychiatric diagnoses made? VIDEO: Why do psychiatric drugs have withdrawal syndromes? VIDEO: Can psychiatric drugs cause long-lasting negative effects? VIDEO: Dr. Claire Weekes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martina23 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 This is a very good thread. For me what makes me problems is: - alcohol, - coffee, tea - spicy food (because I love japanese restaurant) - glutamate in the additives for the soup 05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free- symptoms OCD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasel Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Thank you both ladies! Zoloft 6mg gabapentin 600 mg lamictal 25 mg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gn11 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 I have become anxious about food and it has had a negative impact. I started to eat white rice and chicken and eliminate gluten and dairy. My anxiety went up due to the low carbs. I ate a breakfast cookie with a variety of flours and I felt better. When my stomach feels empty I have a reaction as well. I had a piece of corn bread and felt better as well. Also, milk and eggs seem to work fine. I am used to eating organic and whole grains. Whole grains like brown rice it's hard to digest. I'm not sure whether I'm making my problem worse by becoming paranoid about food. Feel at loss at what to eat.It is confusing to follow all of these different suggestions. . Any ways to just chill about food...I think it increases my anxiety just to think about. Also, a simple approach to eating without being to boring? 2006-2007 Lexapro (not sure of dose) in 2006 2007 Stopped abruptly. Developed serious wd symptom.Went back after two weeks and tapered successfully over 3 months November 2013 started 10 mg of Celexa for hormonal symptoms early 2014 cutdown Celexa to 5 mg.Attempted to get off it November 2014 and had Anxiety increased every time I used an OTC or had stress. April-May Cortisol spike problems July 2016 Started taking liquid Celexa 7.5 mg June 2021 I finished my taper en Severe anxiety and insomnia June 2022 symptoms omproved July 2023 gut issues and sleep issues contnue . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gn11 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 ...ah and paleo, gluten free, no sugar, no dairy, low histamine ...just wanted to add if someone can direct me to a simpler website with two 3 ingredient recipes that work for many peopl, it would be appreciated. I think reading all of these complicated stuff has made my situation worsw. 2006-2007 Lexapro (not sure of dose) in 2006 2007 Stopped abruptly. Developed serious wd symptom.Went back after two weeks and tapered successfully over 3 months November 2013 started 10 mg of Celexa for hormonal symptoms early 2014 cutdown Celexa to 5 mg.Attempted to get off it November 2014 and had Anxiety increased every time I used an OTC or had stress. April-May Cortisol spike problems July 2016 Started taking liquid Celexa 7.5 mg June 2021 I finished my taper en Severe anxiety and insomnia June 2022 symptoms omproved July 2023 gut issues and sleep issues contnue . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaywill Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I have the same symptoms as you guys and react to many foods and have multiple chemical sensitivities as well. Apple Cider Vinegar and salt have saved my life. As soon as I eat something that doesn't agree with me I get a lump at the back of my throat like it is constricting. I walk over to my bottle of apple cider vinegar take a swig and wash it down with water. Almost immediately the panic feeling goes away and my throat seems to relax. If the reaction continues and I feel like I cant take a full breath i take table salt , pour it in my hand, lick it and chase it with water. I carry a bottle of salt and ACV in my purse. I have had some pretty crazy reactions and this has always worked. I have started a low histamine diet and have been off dairy for 18 months and gluten for three years. I am also taking a probiotic. I am now able to tolerate vitamin b , d , c , fish oil, magnesium. I react very badly to antibiotics and just had a severe sinus infection and ended up in hospital on IV. I cured it by neti potting with a little ACV and it cured it. I swear by ACV 12 year on Paxil 20mg. Dropped to 5mg a few years before weaning, Was on 5mg weaned over a few months and then went off Aug 15, 2012. Severe withdrawal started Nov 2012 and have been slowly recovering. Have had all physical symptoms especially muscle, immune and food sensitivities! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evoldnahturt Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 I know some people have had bad experiences with elimination diets, but I started one on Monday and felt soo much better in the evening on Tuesday. I wasn't expecting it to make much of a difference and am completely shocked at how much it's helped so quickly. I was still experiencing skin and muscle burning, stinging, lots of muscle twitching, depression, anxiety, and some other symptoms to a lesser extent. It was all tolerable and probably a lot less severe than what most of the people in this thread seemed to be dealing with, but still made me pretty unhappy. All of those symptoms are either gone or difficult to detect. Except for the muscle twitching. It's easy to detect but isn't as frequent. I've been eating whole and organic chicken breast, vegetables, fruits, nuts, ginger, garlic, and seeds, and olive oil. Last night I had organic, grass-fed beef with no adverse reaction. I've also been using black pepper and salt, but not organic (can salt be organic?). I probably should have eliminated the nuts since a lot of people have issues with them, but I don't seem to. My bad ache (with cysts) that I've had for years is clearing up, too. It clears up and gets bad again regularly, but I have a feeling it might be leaving for good now. There's a lot of chemicals in our foods. Pesticides in inorganic produce, hormones and antibiotics in inorganic animal products (which are in most processed foods), preservatives, dyes, etc. I wonder how much our issues are caused by food sensitivities and how much are caused by exposure to these poisons. - 2002-2015: Zyprexa (Olanzapine), between 2.5mg to 5mg - 9/15-2/16: Started a taper that jumped up and down quickly for five months. Got really sick. Took Xanax sporadically throughout taper. Stopping taking Xanax in January 2016. - 2/14/16: Increased dose to 3.75mg and held for two months, quickly got better at first and then slowly continued to get better after that - Apr/16: 3.375mg, May/16: 3.03mg, Jun-Jul/16: 2.73mg, Aug-Sept/16: 2.5mg, Oct/16: 2.25mg, Nov/16: 2.03mg, Dec/16-Jan/17: 1.82mg, Feb/17: 1.64mg, Mar/17: 1.48mg, Apr/17: 1.33mg, May-Sept/17: 1.20mg, Oct/17: 1.08mg, Nov/17: 0.97mg, Dec/17: 0.87mg, Jan/17: 0.78mg, Feb/17: 0.71mg, Mar/17: 0.64mg, Apr/17: 0.57mg, May/17: 0.51mg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prohealer Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 A lot of people become anxious about whether what they eat is good or not which is understandable, i myself get anxious when it comes to what i should or shouldn't eat because it is hard to distinguish WD symptoms to adverse reasctions. I suggest sticking to just doing the best you can and staying away from obviously bad foods like chocolate and chips etc. but even them once in a while arent the end of the world. I currently have a problem with binge eating bad foods and i'm working on it but i still feel that iv'e gotten better regardless because of the things i have changed. Diets are a double edged sword sadly so its important to do what only you can cope with, were only human. 2009: Put on Fluoxetine (20mg) and Risperdal (0.5mg) for OCD. Dose was increased a few weeks later to 40mg Fluoxetine and 1mg Risperdal. 2011: Began experiencing Depersonalisation and Visual Snow, general loss of energy and breast growth. Was kept on 40mg Fluoxetine until Late Dec 2015. Risperdal dosage varied and was kept on 0.5mg for a long while before Nov 2015. Early Sep 2015: Began having symptoms of extreme anxiety, psychosis and hot flushes due to mixing illegal drugs. Late Nov 2015: Psych doc raised Risperdal to 8mg. Began having severe and hellish Akathisia. Was kept being given Diazepam to cope. Early Dec 2015: Began seeing a new psych doc who tapered me off Risperdal over a period of a few weeks and put me onto Quetiapine. Late Dec 2015: Quick tapered off of everything due to little guidance. Mid March 2016: Reinstated Fluoxetine (5mg), dose was increased to 10mg a couple of weeks later. Gave me restless legs and stopped taking immediately (RLS was unbearable). 10 May 2016: Unsuccessful Fluoxetine reinstatement at 1mg. Drug free since May 2016. Diet (When Able): Low carb and sugar, high fat & dark greens. medium protein and fruit. Taking 100mg magnesium, 1000mg omega 3, 0.25mg Melatonin daily,. Drinking at least one mug of chamomile a day. Weekly Light exercise. Meditating daily and practising mindfulness. "Come back to square one, just the minimum bare bones. Relaxing with the present moment, relaxing with hopelessness, relaxing with death, not resisting the fact that things end, that things pass, that things have no lasting substance, that everything is changing all the time—that is the basic message." – Pema Chodron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 My food sensitivities were much much better when I started WD one year ago until I made another cut of the Lexapro. I was eating spices and fish burger last month caused me very bad anxiety and akathisia symptoms, both of them lasts for 3-4 days. However, 4 days ago I had prawns and fish in my friends place, the second day I started very bad anxiety and the third day my first restless legs and akathisia hit. The stomach is totally breakdown. I couldn't sleep at all with top of the anxiety and hopeless feelings. Its so hard for me, but I don't know if this can cause me Akathisia this bad? I just hope this is caused by seafood intolerance. Anyone experienced my similar situation? 2006 October Zoloft 50mg for anxiety. 2013 March Lexapro 10mg for 18 months to 2015 September. 2015 September increased to 20mg for 7 weeks but getting worse. 3rd November dropped back to 10mg 2016 11th November taper to 9mg 2017 3rd March Taper to 8.8mg, then Fast taper start: 10th-8.6mg, 12th-8.2mg, 17th-8.0mg, 22rd-7.7mg, 27th-7.4mg. April 2nd- 6.9mg (WD start), 19th-6.5mg. Failed one day Cymbalta trial, took back Lexapro, much worse Akathisia torture. Keep holding. May 22nd- 6.3mg, June 10th- 5.7mg, Nov- 4.4mg, Dec- 4.3mg, 2018 Jan- 4.1mg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithgrl Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Hey all thank you so much for sharing. I have always had food sensitivies which resulted in eczema but since reinstating at 1/3 of what I was on, every time I ate my body exploded into rashes. After a stint of fasting and trying to endure all the rashes, then being prescribed prednisone (which completely freaked me out because I understand it could send me manic which is the last thing I need right now) I have decided to pop anti-histamines for my poor inflamed skin which has been struggling for two weeks. I am terrified that the anti-histamines will stop working before these histamine dysregulation symptoms pass but there is nothing I can do about it at the moment. Its either that, or I scratch till I water, or prednisone (!!!). I am seeing a kinesiologist weekly to support me and give me a food plan on a week by week basis so I have a safe food list from week to week (which changes as we all know). I am still super freaked out. Prior to this I have like 6 shots of coffee a day, one of them a soy cappuccino, chocolate desserts twice a week, and can eat a tonne of red meat. Now I am down to fresh fish only for meat, vegetales, peeled pears and I am going to have to rotate my food. Ugggghhhhhhh. Lucky I can still have one shot of coffee a day and a soy cappacino once a week otherwise life is so not worth living. The kinesiologist reckon that I currently have sensitivities to salicylates, amines and glutamate (??). So now I am off to the salicylates sensitivity forum to see what I need to do. This is soooo painful. Please somebody tell me it passes. Prescribed Lexapro in 2003 and switched to Cipramil (5-10mg per day) 2004 with Lamictal. Stopped Lamictal cold turkey with no withdrawals in 2014 with support of a Paleo diet. 2003-2015 Cipramil only: 5mg 21 Dec 15: 2.5mg 28 Dec 15: 2.25mg 4 Jan 16: 1.575mg 10 Jan 16: 1.1025 11 Jan 16: 0.7875 25 Jan 16: 0.9, 1 Feb: 0.8, 8 Feb 0.75, 15 Feb 0.5, 29 Feb 0.25, 21 March 0.17, 4 April: 0.10, 25 April 0.05, 8 May 2016 0.05, 15 May 2016 NIL 21 June 2016 0.1, 5 Sep 16: 0.2 7 Sep 16: 0.15 16 Sep 16: 0.075 3 Oct 16: 0.015 17 October: 0.015, 14 Nov 2016: Reinstate 0.005, 26 Dec 16 0.0045, 2 Jan 17 0.004, 20 Feb 17 0.003, 3 Apr 17 0.002, 22 May 17 NIL. Supplements/Lifestyle: Low oxalate diet. Christian music all the time! B12 drops, Broccoli sprouts, Integra Nutritionals Gemmune IB, Zinc drops, Tresos Natal, Spatone Healing rooms: https://www.facebook.com/FODaustralia/videos and http://sydneyheal.com/service/time-and-location/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evoldnahturt Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Hey all thank you so much for sharing. I have always had food sensitivies which resulted in eczema but since reinstating at 1/3 of what I was on, every time I ate my body exploded into rashes. After a stint of fasting and trying to endure all the rashes, then being prescribed prednisone (which completely freaked me out because I understand it could send me manic which is the last thing I need right now) I have decided to pop anti-histamines for my poor inflamed skin which has been struggling for two weeks. I am terrified that the anti-histamines will stop working before these histamine dysregulation symptoms pass but there is nothing I can do about it at the moment. Its either that, or I scratch till I water, or prednisone (!!!). I am seeing a kinesiologist weekly to support me and give me a food plan on a week by week basis so I have a safe food list from week to week (which changes as we all know). I am still super freaked out. Prior to this I have like 6 shots of coffee a day, one of them a soy cappuccino, chocolate desserts twice a week, and can eat a tonne of red meat. Now I am down to fresh fish only for meat, vegetales, peeled pears and I am going to have to rotate my food. Ugggghhhhhhh. Lucky I can still have one shot of coffee a day and a soy cappacino once a week otherwise life is so not worth living. The kinesiologist reckon that I currently have sensitivities to salicylates, amines and glutamate (??). So now I am off to the salicylates sensitivity forum to see what I need to do. This is soooo painful. Please somebody tell me it passes. Have you considered that withdrawal syndrome might have caused you to develop a sensitivity to medication as well as food? I know things got a lot worse for me when I started adding medication. This seems to be more important the more severe a person's withdrawal syndrome symptoms are. Sensitivities usually go away, but while a person is sensitive, they have to be careful about what they put in their body. What I've gathered from the stories I've read is, at the very least, while we're sick, we need to quit adding medication and very slowly taper off of whatever we're currently taking after a stabilizing hold. An elimination diet might help you figure out what foods you're sensitive to. I really started to improve after I started an elimination diet. - 2002-2015: Zyprexa (Olanzapine), between 2.5mg to 5mg - 9/15-2/16: Started a taper that jumped up and down quickly for five months. Got really sick. Took Xanax sporadically throughout taper. Stopping taking Xanax in January 2016. - 2/14/16: Increased dose to 3.75mg and held for two months, quickly got better at first and then slowly continued to get better after that - Apr/16: 3.375mg, May/16: 3.03mg, Jun-Jul/16: 2.73mg, Aug-Sept/16: 2.5mg, Oct/16: 2.25mg, Nov/16: 2.03mg, Dec/16-Jan/17: 1.82mg, Feb/17: 1.64mg, Mar/17: 1.48mg, Apr/17: 1.33mg, May-Sept/17: 1.20mg, Oct/17: 1.08mg, Nov/17: 0.97mg, Dec/17: 0.87mg, Jan/17: 0.78mg, Feb/17: 0.71mg, Mar/17: 0.64mg, Apr/17: 0.57mg, May/17: 0.51mg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithgrl Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Yes! That's the path I have been on this last week. I finally found David Healy's Rx guide to coming off anti-depressants which talked about histamines going all over the place and him prescribing anti-histamines. I am aware that it is only a short term solution, but I have tried Quercitin and Black Seed oil and had terrible itchy reactions (I suspect the salicylates). I also tried Tulsi (with horrid reactions). It would appear that for now, nothing herbal will work on me. The good news is that my eczema is mostly clear (!!) for now. I finally caved on Sunday night and started popping anti-histamines and putting cortisone on my skin, along with an anti-septic to kill the bacteria. This has stopped the itching and the flaring all together. I have been doing this for 5 days. In the meantime I have been spending all my holiday time researching what the f**k is going on. I suspect that I have always been sensitive to salicylates and the reduction of cipramil (which is also an anti-histamine) meant that I started reacting like crazy to all foods (that and eating my interpretation of a paleo diet with red meat, chocolate and coffee daily didn't help probably). My mother doesn't eat fruits and vegetables and only eats them if she is out. She always complains of fainting when she eats abit of vegetables or fruit. I suspect it comes from her. So this last week, its back to fresh fish, vegetables, fruit and nuts with a little turkey and lamb for Christmas. And eating ALOT less (like 1/2 or a 1/3 of how much I used to eat) as eating in itself produces histamines. I did consider an elimiation diet but per the other thread on "food sensitivities" it could be aggravating to a strained nervous system. My plan going forward is to now taper off the anti-histamines, SLOWLY while I continue this new food plan and find new doctors who can help me in the new year. My head is otherwise fine, with meditation (to Christina music in my case), and as much sleep as a I want. The test will come next week when I go back to work. Prescribed Lexapro in 2003 and switched to Cipramil (5-10mg per day) 2004 with Lamictal. Stopped Lamictal cold turkey with no withdrawals in 2014 with support of a Paleo diet. 2003-2015 Cipramil only: 5mg 21 Dec 15: 2.5mg 28 Dec 15: 2.25mg 4 Jan 16: 1.575mg 10 Jan 16: 1.1025 11 Jan 16: 0.7875 25 Jan 16: 0.9, 1 Feb: 0.8, 8 Feb 0.75, 15 Feb 0.5, 29 Feb 0.25, 21 March 0.17, 4 April: 0.10, 25 April 0.05, 8 May 2016 0.05, 15 May 2016 NIL 21 June 2016 0.1, 5 Sep 16: 0.2 7 Sep 16: 0.15 16 Sep 16: 0.075 3 Oct 16: 0.015 17 October: 0.015, 14 Nov 2016: Reinstate 0.005, 26 Dec 16 0.0045, 2 Jan 17 0.004, 20 Feb 17 0.003, 3 Apr 17 0.002, 22 May 17 NIL. Supplements/Lifestyle: Low oxalate diet. Christian music all the time! B12 drops, Broccoli sprouts, Integra Nutritionals Gemmune IB, Zinc drops, Tresos Natal, Spatone Healing rooms: https://www.facebook.com/FODaustralia/videos and http://sydneyheal.com/service/time-and-location/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evoldnahturt Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Elimination diets have made things worse for some people. I wonder if slowly taping off of foods that are on the no-no list might be a safer way of introducing an elimination diet. Doctors don't know anything about withdrawal syndrome and the way they respond to it is generally very dangerous. They tend to want to treat the symptoms with medication, which may make the symptoms temporarily subside, but they put you at a greater risk of getting sicker, especially if you ever decide to taper off of whatever they give you. The risk should be less once your nervous system has healed some, but right now it's probably very sensitive. The worst cases I've read were those where the patients kept going to doctors and those doctors kept adding new medications and cold-turkeying them off of old medications. People seem to start getting better when they quit making med changes (including alcohol, caffeine, and nicotine) and start living a healthier lifestyle (especially in regards to diet). - 2002-2015: Zyprexa (Olanzapine), between 2.5mg to 5mg - 9/15-2/16: Started a taper that jumped up and down quickly for five months. Got really sick. Took Xanax sporadically throughout taper. Stopping taking Xanax in January 2016. - 2/14/16: Increased dose to 3.75mg and held for two months, quickly got better at first and then slowly continued to get better after that - Apr/16: 3.375mg, May/16: 3.03mg, Jun-Jul/16: 2.73mg, Aug-Sept/16: 2.5mg, Oct/16: 2.25mg, Nov/16: 2.03mg, Dec/16-Jan/17: 1.82mg, Feb/17: 1.64mg, Mar/17: 1.48mg, Apr/17: 1.33mg, May-Sept/17: 1.20mg, Oct/17: 1.08mg, Nov/17: 0.97mg, Dec/17: 0.87mg, Jan/17: 0.78mg, Feb/17: 0.71mg, Mar/17: 0.64mg, Apr/17: 0.57mg, May/17: 0.51mg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexAdvice Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Reviving an old thread! I'm going through severe food sensitivity issues 1 month out of a long and slow taper of Lexapro. Most foods make my skin itch, luckily I have been able to establish a mostly low-histamine diet which I am able to tolerate. However, I am a food writer and simply mad about food and this situation, frankly, is scaring me. Can anyone comment about recent improvements or being able to re-introduce foods as healing moves forward? Thanks! 6/2015: 10 mg Lexapro generic + 100 mg Seroquel following episode of severe insomnia. 12/15 - 2/16: self-tapered Lexapro (no Dr. supervision) too rapidly: 3 weeks at 7.5 mg, 3 weeks at 5 mg, 3 weeks at 2.5 mg then off. NO W/D SYMPTOMS. 3/16 (about two weeks after final dose): bad insomnia again. Tried to hold out. Failed. 5/1/16: Saw psych. He said relapse and put me back on 5 mg Lex + 50 mg Seroquel to be reduced as Lexapro takes effect. I now believe it was only W/D. Dr. wanted me to updose, but after finding this site I decided to stabilize at 5 mg and start tapering at a later date. Supplements: Magnesium citrate, fish oil, probiotics (from food not from pills) Month of 7/16: Tapered off Seroquel: 1 week 20 mg, 1 week 15 mg, 1 week 10 mg, 1 week 5 mg. No problems sleeping throughout this process. Stopped Seroquel several days ago (7/21?) and sleep has been mostly good, some bad. Reinstated 5 mg Seroquel 7/25 and stabilized my sleep. 9/1/16: Started tapering generic escitalopram liquid: 4.5 mg 6/1/17: No longer taking seroquel for sleep. Escitalopram liquid down to .9 mg 6/10/17: .8 mg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evoldnahturt Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I've generally become less sensitive to food over time. If you're gentle with your nervous system, it should heal and all of these issues should go away eventually. - 2002-2015: Zyprexa (Olanzapine), between 2.5mg to 5mg - 9/15-2/16: Started a taper that jumped up and down quickly for five months. Got really sick. Took Xanax sporadically throughout taper. Stopping taking Xanax in January 2016. - 2/14/16: Increased dose to 3.75mg and held for two months, quickly got better at first and then slowly continued to get better after that - Apr/16: 3.375mg, May/16: 3.03mg, Jun-Jul/16: 2.73mg, Aug-Sept/16: 2.5mg, Oct/16: 2.25mg, Nov/16: 2.03mg, Dec/16-Jan/17: 1.82mg, Feb/17: 1.64mg, Mar/17: 1.48mg, Apr/17: 1.33mg, May-Sept/17: 1.20mg, Oct/17: 1.08mg, Nov/17: 0.97mg, Dec/17: 0.87mg, Jan/17: 0.78mg, Feb/17: 0.71mg, Mar/17: 0.64mg, Apr/17: 0.57mg, May/17: 0.51mg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexAdvice Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Thanks for that, @Evoldnahturt! What foods were you sensitive to, how did the sensitivities present and did you have to cut those foods for a while and then keep trying to introduce them back or...? 6/2015: 10 mg Lexapro generic + 100 mg Seroquel following episode of severe insomnia. 12/15 - 2/16: self-tapered Lexapro (no Dr. supervision) too rapidly: 3 weeks at 7.5 mg, 3 weeks at 5 mg, 3 weeks at 2.5 mg then off. NO W/D SYMPTOMS. 3/16 (about two weeks after final dose): bad insomnia again. Tried to hold out. Failed. 5/1/16: Saw psych. He said relapse and put me back on 5 mg Lex + 50 mg Seroquel to be reduced as Lexapro takes effect. I now believe it was only W/D. Dr. wanted me to updose, but after finding this site I decided to stabilize at 5 mg and start tapering at a later date. Supplements: Magnesium citrate, fish oil, probiotics (from food not from pills) Month of 7/16: Tapered off Seroquel: 1 week 20 mg, 1 week 15 mg, 1 week 10 mg, 1 week 5 mg. No problems sleeping throughout this process. Stopped Seroquel several days ago (7/21?) and sleep has been mostly good, some bad. Reinstated 5 mg Seroquel 7/25 and stabilized my sleep. 9/1/16: Started tapering generic escitalopram liquid: 4.5 mg 6/1/17: No longer taking seroquel for sleep. Escitalopram liquid down to .9 mg 6/10/17: .8 mg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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