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#649 Sertralinsomnia

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Posted 07 March 2017 - 03:19 PM

Hello LexAnger,

 

Can i ask how are you doing your drops? I saw your post on Amyk forum, you said your are putting 1.5 drop on 150 ml. How do you calculate 0.07 from the 150 ml? Im curious.


Started zoloft 25 mg on October 2009. Started tapering May 2016 to june 2016, last week at 12,5 mg and quit

Crashed 23 january 2017, severe headache and panic (never had this panic all my life) next morning.Tried to reinstate with prozac 5 mg a day on 25 January 2016, bad choice, got arrhytmias and stopped.

Started propranolol 40 mg as needed on january 2014 - Didnt touch it anymore since January 2017
23/02/17 reinstated to 2 mg, had arritmia at night

24/02/17 changed dose to 0.5 mg - ok

25/02/2017 updose again 1 mg - ok.

26/02/2017 1 mg again, had full night insomnia, like my head was blowing up overstimulated - im sure was side effect zoloft

27/02/2017 skipped dose this day, my brain was overstimulated from last night, i calculated the half lifes from the days before until this day, and even on skipping this day i still had 1.375 mg zoloft on blood.

28/02/2017 stayed at 0.5 mg since then

I know i shouldn´t do this flutuations with the doses upon first reinstating, but at the same time i knew that the ammounts where still close to each other, and my body handled the reducing somehow. Truth said, i felt a little better as soon i reduced to 0.5 mg.

 


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Posted 07 March 2017 - 05:33 PM

Hi SERT,

After reaching the tiny dose round 0.1-0.2ml, I felt regardless how accurate you can do using the synrige, it can have daily fluctuation. I noticed each drop from the synrige is approximately 0.04 ml ( my original Lexapro liquid is 5mg/ ml) so at one time when I'm close to 0.08 ml, I changed to measure using drops instead of ML, which is much more accurate. Since then I dilute the 2 drops by adding 200 ml water, and tapering down from there by reducing whatever the doses I decided to as its so easy to measure from the 200 ml solution, just need to be careful about the math each time cutting down.

For my current dose, 0.062mg, it's an estimate as I don't really count the mg anymore since then, only Drops and ml, this is how I do,

Take 1 whole drop -- straight and easy, about 0.04mg
Take another drop into a container, add 100 ml water, then take 55 ml of it-- about 0.022 mg

So I use the second drop solution ( 0.04mg/100ml) to taper, it's not hard to make reduction of 0.0004mg as it measures 1 ml of the diluted solution. Also due to its super low concentration, the error is close to zero for even the smallest drop.

I do need to remember to shake it well though before taking the 55ml.

Right down the formulas so you can see it when you do the titration just be sure no mess up by accident.
<p>2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg, first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, slight improvement with pain2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR2016 Feb., started fast taper for the drug toxicity caused by the one dose of 4.2mg, dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, sliding Down to 0.13mg by 2/13, then 0.07mg since 2/18, 0.06mg 2/20-3/17, 0.13mg 3/18

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 12:46 AM

Nice and precise. :)

Started zoloft 25 mg on October 2009. Started tapering May 2016 to june 2016, last week at 12,5 mg and quit

Crashed 23 january 2017, severe headache and panic (never had this panic all my life) next morning.Tried to reinstate with prozac 5 mg a day on 25 January 2016, bad choice, got arrhytmias and stopped.

Started propranolol 40 mg as needed on january 2014 - Didnt touch it anymore since January 2017
23/02/17 reinstated to 2 mg, had arritmia at night

24/02/17 changed dose to 0.5 mg - ok

25/02/2017 updose again 1 mg - ok.

26/02/2017 1 mg again, had full night insomnia, like my head was blowing up overstimulated - im sure was side effect zoloft

27/02/2017 skipped dose this day, my brain was overstimulated from last night, i calculated the half lifes from the days before until this day, and even on skipping this day i still had 1.375 mg zoloft on blood.

28/02/2017 stayed at 0.5 mg since then

I know i shouldn´t do this flutuations with the doses upon first reinstating, but at the same time i knew that the ammounts where still close to each other, and my body handled the reducing somehow. Truth said, i felt a little better as soon i reduced to 0.5 mg.

 


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Posted 08 March 2017 - 08:52 PM

LA you have been in my thoughts and prayers for a long time now.  Big hug x


1995                20mg Aropax/Paxil for pain.  2000-2004 - Years of tapering and up-dosing (fast) (resultant suffering)

2004-2007       Daily 20mg

2008                Switching to Endep, Lexapro and then Esipram (hell!)

2009                20mg Aropax.  Tried skipping doses for a year (more hell!)

                        2010                10mg.  10% taper.  Lasted 4 months. Crashed again

2011                5% taper. 9mg-7mg (hell got even worse!)

2012                2.5% taper.  6.6mg – 5.6mg (worser still & unbearable)

2013                5% taper.  Big mistake.  5.5mg – 4.6mg  (even worserer)

2014                2.5% taper.  4.9mg – 4.5mg (worst year ever for w/d by far, plus gall surgery-developed arrythmia

2015                2.5% taper.  4.4mg - 4.0mg (gall surgery/anaesthetic continued to make things even worse)

2016                2.5% taper.  3.9mg  Feb 3.8   Mar 3.7  May 3.6   Jul 3.5 (finally imp. from gall surgery)

2017                2.5% taper.  Jan 3.4;   Mar 3.35;


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Posted 08 March 2017 - 09:26 PM

Dear GrandmaD, you too are in my prayer and I'm still following you. Most times in the past 2 months, I was not able to communicate verbally or in written so my apology for not being able to write much here.

I am very happy for your recent improvement !!

I'm patiently waiting, enduring for the day when I have a clue what this toroidal is taking me to, and when my fried brain can make a comprehensive post.

Love and hugs,
Lex
<p>2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg, first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, slight improvement with pain2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR2016 Feb., started fast taper for the drug toxicity caused by the one dose of 4.2mg, dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, sliding Down to 0.13mg by 2/13, then 0.07mg since 2/18, 0.06mg 2/20-3/17, 0.13mg 3/18

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 04:37 PM

May your patient endurance pay off!  You are almost there, look after yourself, thinking of you still x


1995                20mg Aropax/Paxil for pain.  2000-2004 - Years of tapering and up-dosing (fast) (resultant suffering)

2004-2007       Daily 20mg

2008                Switching to Endep, Lexapro and then Esipram (hell!)

2009                20mg Aropax.  Tried skipping doses for a year (more hell!)

                        2010                10mg.  10% taper.  Lasted 4 months. Crashed again

2011                5% taper. 9mg-7mg (hell got even worse!)

2012                2.5% taper.  6.6mg – 5.6mg (worser still & unbearable)

2013                5% taper.  Big mistake.  5.5mg – 4.6mg  (even worserer)

2014                2.5% taper.  4.9mg – 4.5mg (worst year ever for w/d by far, plus gall surgery-developed arrythmia

2015                2.5% taper.  4.4mg - 4.0mg (gall surgery/anaesthetic continued to make things even worse)

2016                2.5% taper.  3.9mg  Feb 3.8   Mar 3.7  May 3.6   Jul 3.5 (finally imp. from gall surgery)

2017                2.5% taper.  Jan 3.4;   Mar 3.35;


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Posted 10 March 2017 - 08:35 PM

Hugs to you GrandmaD!
Even I'm completely crippled, I have confidence that my brain is working very hard and will get its original balance and functions back.
Now without much drug to play with, I can focus more on the natural healing, not like before I have to debating about dosage everyday, a huge stressor.

Hope you are still coping fine.
<p>2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg, first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, slight improvement with pain2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR2016 Feb., started fast taper for the drug toxicity caused by the one dose of 4.2mg, dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, sliding Down to 0.13mg by 2/13, then 0.07mg since 2/18, 0.06mg 2/20-3/17, 0.13mg 3/18

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 07:40 PM

Hi LA, glad you are  pushing through, not far to go now and then you can concentrate on recovering.  Thank you, I am coping much better this week, no headaches, very few pressure heads and able to breathe a lot better, that is, I can take a deep breathe now when I want which is such a relief as I couldn't do that before.  At the end of my taper with a week to go, so hoping next week is even better!


1995                20mg Aropax/Paxil for pain.  2000-2004 - Years of tapering and up-dosing (fast) (resultant suffering)

2004-2007       Daily 20mg

2008                Switching to Endep, Lexapro and then Esipram (hell!)

2009                20mg Aropax.  Tried skipping doses for a year (more hell!)

                        2010                10mg.  10% taper.  Lasted 4 months. Crashed again

2011                5% taper. 9mg-7mg (hell got even worse!)

2012                2.5% taper.  6.6mg – 5.6mg (worser still & unbearable)

2013                5% taper.  Big mistake.  5.5mg – 4.6mg  (even worserer)

2014                2.5% taper.  4.9mg – 4.5mg (worst year ever for w/d by far, plus gall surgery-developed arrythmia

2015                2.5% taper.  4.4mg - 4.0mg (gall surgery/anaesthetic continued to make things even worse)

2016                2.5% taper.  3.9mg  Feb 3.8   Mar 3.7  May 3.6   Jul 3.5 (finally imp. from gall surgery)

2017                2.5% taper.  Jan 3.4;   Mar 3.35;


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Posted 11 March 2017 - 10:51 PM

GrandMaD,

I'm so happy for you having a window with the long hold! You deserve it so well.


I'm now very certain that my recent fast dose reduction is a big NO. Even it was a forced action due to drug reaction, I probably should have stayed at 0.2 mg without further dropping quicklly to the current dose of 0.06 mg, as the drug reaction was totally manageable by then. I'm paying it by being totally bed ridden now.

So be slow as much as possible. Turtles will win the battle.

Hugs,
Lex
<p>2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg, first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, slight improvement with pain2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR2016 Feb., started fast taper for the drug toxicity caused by the one dose of 4.2mg, dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, sliding Down to 0.13mg by 2/13, then 0.07mg since 2/18, 0.06mg 2/20-3/17, 0.13mg 3/18

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Posted 12 March 2017 - 12:32 AM

Lex, I hope you will feel better soon. It WILL change.
Lots of love, Amy

Tapering Zoloft since 2011. Current dose: 0,013 mg

 

0,019 mg 22 March 0,039 mg 18 March? 0,052 mg 16 March 0,079 mg 4 March 0,086 1 March 0,099 mg 22 February 0,11 mg 15 February 0,13 mg 6 February 0,145 mg 24 January 0,15 mg 19 January 0,19 mg 10 January 0,20 mg 3 January

 

2016: 0,98 to 0,22 mg

2015: 2,35 to 1,01 mg

2014: 4,9 to 2,5 mg

2013: 9,1 to 5,1 mg

2012: 15,7 to 9,7 mg

2011: Started on 25 mg - then 50 mg- dropped to 25- to 12.5 mg - back to 25 mg - after 18.75 mg started tiny tapering to 16.6 mg

 

Started on 25 mg Zoloft in March 2011 due to stressrelated tinnitus that gave me panicattacks, then after two weeks up to 50 mg, which dose I was only on for five weeks. Had a terrible reaction to Zoloft from start, but was told to "hold on". After four months on 25 mg/12 mg/18,75 mg I was stuck. Therefore the long taper. Crazy, I know... Super sensitive to drops and have dropped by 4-6 % from the prevoius dose all the way from 17,5 mg.


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Posted 14 March 2017 - 05:39 PM

Hi Lex,

 

You will make it! For sure!

 

We can beat these two evils! 

 

Hugs

 

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2006 October Zoloft 50mg for anxiety. After 1.5 years stopped gradually in one month. Then relapsed after 4-5 months took back for 5 years then up dosed to 100mg 1 year.

2013 March Lexapro 10mg for 18 months to 2015 September.

2015 September increased to 20mg for 7 weeks but getting worse: heart beating to 125bpm, no appetite, nausea, hands trembling and extremely worsening anxiety, restless.

2015 3rd November dropped back to 10mg directly, heart beating reduced during the first month, heart beating calmed down on the 2nd month.

Since 2016 Still bad anxiety (obsessive negative thinking) , stomach upset, slightly depressed(since W/D always a bit depressed...), first 4 months constently no windows

After 4 months, up and down... 10th month, big horrible wave hit, (now known as Akathisia symptoms). Lasts 2 months, started lessening a lot. 

2016 11th November taper to 9mg, was good for 1.5 week, then Akathisia hit again for 4-5 days then good windows for a while. This keeps for 1 month.

2016 20th December akathisia started again with new intense restless legs symptom and insomnia symptom. Better after 2 weeks, then up and down. 

2017 8th Feburary Symptoms worsening, for recent 5 days almost 7/24, unbearable, usually much worse after taking, to 4 hours after taking. 

2017 3rd March Taper to 8.8mg for experiment. 10th-8.6mg, 12th-8.2mg, 17th-8.0mg (Sleeping much better, heart rate dropped). 22rd-7.7mg (missed a dose, symptoms worsening).

 

 


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Posted 14 March 2017 - 09:31 PM

Thank you dear Amy for your dearest care and continuous support!

My apology for not being able to respond promptly. I used to have daily windows oftentimes in evening, but the past months have been in constant lost both physically and mentally.

Totally defeated is how I feel lots times, but I know I still have to continue.

You are so right dear Amy! Every time I'm in desparate, I would remember what you told me, that it will change! I guess the past month has been particularly challenging not only because the high level debilitating symptoms but also no sign of changing ( for better), I used to bounce back pretty quickly.

I try to remind my self this is no surprise for such a huge drop in one month, which I planned to do in a year.

Hope you are doing well!
<p>2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg, first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, slight improvement with pain2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR2016 Feb., started fast taper for the drug toxicity caused by the one dose of 4.2mg, dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, sliding Down to 0.13mg by 2/13, then 0.07mg since 2/18, 0.06mg 2/20-3/17, 0.13mg 3/18

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 09:34 PM

Hey, rain,

Thanks for stopping by and the world of encouragement!
I'm glad you are moving along well with the tapering plan!

Yes, I know in my heart that we will eventually make it to the other side. If not for the need of keeping my job, I can totally live with it until my Brian is healed by time.

Keep the good work,
Lex
<p>2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg, first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, slight improvement with pain2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR2016 Feb., started fast taper for the drug toxicity caused by the one dose of 4.2mg, dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, sliding Down to 0.13mg by 2/13, then 0.07mg since 2/18, 0.06mg 2/20-3/17, 0.13mg 3/18

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 10:11 PM

I'm sorry it has to be so hard for you!  Give yourself plenty of time to recover and for your nervous system to heal.  Take care, we are all here cheering you on! x


1995                20mg Aropax/Paxil for pain.  2000-2004 - Years of tapering and up-dosing (fast) (resultant suffering)

2004-2007       Daily 20mg

2008                Switching to Endep, Lexapro and then Esipram (hell!)

2009                20mg Aropax.  Tried skipping doses for a year (more hell!)

                        2010                10mg.  10% taper.  Lasted 4 months. Crashed again

2011                5% taper. 9mg-7mg (hell got even worse!)

2012                2.5% taper.  6.6mg – 5.6mg (worser still & unbearable)

2013                5% taper.  Big mistake.  5.5mg – 4.6mg  (even worserer)

2014                2.5% taper.  4.9mg – 4.5mg (worst year ever for w/d by far, plus gall surgery-developed arrythmia

2015                2.5% taper.  4.4mg - 4.0mg (gall surgery/anaesthetic continued to make things even worse)

2016                2.5% taper.  3.9mg  Feb 3.8   Mar 3.7  May 3.6   Jul 3.5 (finally imp. from gall surgery)

2017                2.5% taper.  Jan 3.4;   Mar 3.35;


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Posted 14 March 2017 - 10:38 PM

Thanks Lex! 

 

We are together to fight these evils! 

 

Hugs!

 

Rain


2006 October Zoloft 50mg for anxiety. After 1.5 years stopped gradually in one month. Then relapsed after 4-5 months took back for 5 years then up dosed to 100mg 1 year.

2013 March Lexapro 10mg for 18 months to 2015 September.

2015 September increased to 20mg for 7 weeks but getting worse: heart beating to 125bpm, no appetite, nausea, hands trembling and extremely worsening anxiety, restless.

2015 3rd November dropped back to 10mg directly, heart beating reduced during the first month, heart beating calmed down on the 2nd month.

Since 2016 Still bad anxiety (obsessive negative thinking) , stomach upset, slightly depressed(since W/D always a bit depressed...), first 4 months constently no windows

After 4 months, up and down... 10th month, big horrible wave hit, (now known as Akathisia symptoms). Lasts 2 months, started lessening a lot. 

2016 11th November taper to 9mg, was good for 1.5 week, then Akathisia hit again for 4-5 days then good windows for a while. This keeps for 1 month.

2016 20th December akathisia started again with new intense restless legs symptom and insomnia symptom. Better after 2 weeks, then up and down. 

2017 8th Feburary Symptoms worsening, for recent 5 days almost 7/24, unbearable, usually much worse after taking, to 4 hours after taking. 

2017 3rd March Taper to 8.8mg for experiment. 10th-8.6mg, 12th-8.2mg, 17th-8.0mg (Sleeping much better, heart rate dropped). 22rd-7.7mg (missed a dose, symptoms worsening).

 

 


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Posted 16 March 2017 - 01:02 PM

Hi Lex! 

 

How are you these days?

 

My head has cleared up a bit already after my drop to zero. I think you are right about the "reaction" thing. Just some insomnia and periodically akathisia/restlessness, but nothing more than usual. Hopefully things will continue to improve. How long did it take before you were hit by WD after your last cut? 

 

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<p>Sept 2015: 5 mg Cipralex for 3 weeks. Lots of side effects. Reduced to 2.5 mg for 2 weeks. Experiencing withdrawal and side effects still after dose reduction. Quit after almost 4 weeks on 2.5 mg because of adverse effects. Experiencing withdrawal symptoms still. Reinstating 1mg after 3 weeks. Reduced to 0.50 after 2 days due to sensitive reaction (dysautonomia) and trip to ER. January 2016: After 14 months of tapering from 0.5 mg im now down to 0.08mg. Planing on one more drop before 4-8 weeks healing, then jump to zero. 14.03.17: Lexapro free!


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Posted 16 March 2017 - 03:42 PM

Hi cipromillion,

So good to hear your great news!! Finally-- how wonderful to be free from these killer drugs and land safely!!

Definitely hope the insomnia is not too bad and will resolve soon by itself. I had chronic insomnia pre Lexapro time, and thought it was resolved magically when I just started Lexapro only later I realized it's the sedation effect of Lexapro, a needed side effect for my case. I know once I'm off completely I will have insomnia again as that's how I am. I still sleep a lot now with the 0.06 mg, that's how effective this drug is.

My response to dose cut usually is rather fast, I would know it the night immediately after the day I make a cut with the classical symptom-- ear pain and less sleep (still 8 hours ). The last and the worst WD episode I'm still going through started also couple days after my biggest cut (0.8 to 0.2), I had one or two very clear minded days immediately looking like my old normal self, but was hit big soon and it has been evolving over the past month as I kept cutting everyday until I reached 0.06mg.

I used to bounce back quickly too from WD hit, but not this time. It's getting worse everyday. Well I never did such a jump either before, and never be so close to zero.

Go for wild celebration, nothing can beat this huge achievement!

Lots hugs,
Lex
<p>2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg, first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, slight improvement with pain2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR2016 Feb., started fast taper for the drug toxicity caused by the one dose of 4.2mg, dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, sliding Down to 0.13mg by 2/13, then 0.07mg since 2/18, 0.06mg 2/20-3/17, 0.13mg 3/18

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 10:12 PM

Due for a long delayed update, a brief one, as my brain is not capable of a comprehensive recap of all the wildness happened since I dropped dose like running into a tornado!


Quite a lot new and weird, scary symptoms since down from 0.9 to 0.2 mg in one month, most severe flu like, lost feeling of left body, strange pains, head sensation, But still managing with ok days or hours.

Been very unwell in general since down to 006 mg from 0.2 in the following month with the most severe symptom of breathlessness companied by paralyzed left brain and body, total confusion, burning, needling, heart failure like status.

Been having a heart failure feeling everyday past week while holding 0.06, touching the tiny dose usually helps lifting the heart up until today heart was like passed out not pounding barely feel alive and the dose won't do the trick.

Tried Celexa two days ago feeling it's good and bad are exactly the same as Lexapro plus something weird and unfamiliar, so decided to stay with Lexapro

Eventually convinced that updose is a must to save the heart, doesn't matter how determined I was to tough it out.

So took 0.12 mg for the day. After finishing 0.8 mg, I was like lifting up from death, felt energetic a couple hours later, enough for gym, so went and had the most normal 2 hours there for the 4 part routine, trade mill, weights, sauna and swim.

I think I was little manic from the updose while in gym, like full of good energy even laughed with ppl around, felt weak again back home but still livable. Great thing no drug reaction so fat.

Conclusion, that fast taper is a big NO.

Will see what follows as it goes.
<p>2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg, first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, slight improvement with pain2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR2016 Feb., started fast taper for the drug toxicity caused by the one dose of 4.2mg, dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, sliding Down to 0.13mg by 2/13, then 0.07mg since 2/18, 0.06mg 2/20-3/17, 0.13mg 3/18

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Posted 18 March 2017 - 12:52 AM

So nice to hear about your excersise, Lex! Things will continue to improve over time. Its all about surviving this terrible phase. There is so much preaching about permanent damage from SSRIs online, but the fact is that we dont know the long term outcome for these drugs. We need systematic reviews and unbiased design to answer that empirical question. Im fairly optimistic when it comes to tapering long term with these drugs. I thought my brain was fried forever when i first got that immidiate adverse reactions and then WD on top of that. But my CNS has healed so much on a ultra low dose/tapering. Evolution is no joke, and our CNS can repair itself over time. Amazing stuff! And there are no systematic studies on microtapering. But just look at the evidence from this site. Turtles win the race! Think about all the people that probably has recovered and never write on this site again. They might just want to forget all about this hell and move on. Who can blame them? I see alot of hope in that fact. In my opinion, Alto and the staff here are the most competent people in the whole world on the subject WD and tapering. Hands down! No doctor could even get close to the knowledge you have about your unique story and how to manage symptoms. Its an incredible achievement, and it will pay off in the end!

 

Sorry about all those words, but just wanted to share some optimistic thoughts with you in such a dark time. Hell, im even drinking my first cup of coffee without breaking down as i write this. It must be a good sign  :D

 

Hugs!


<p>Sept 2015: 5 mg Cipralex for 3 weeks. Lots of side effects. Reduced to 2.5 mg for 2 weeks. Experiencing withdrawal and side effects still after dose reduction. Quit after almost 4 weeks on 2.5 mg because of adverse effects. Experiencing withdrawal symptoms still. Reinstating 1mg after 3 weeks. Reduced to 0.50 after 2 days due to sensitive reaction (dysautonomia) and trip to ER. January 2016: After 14 months of tapering from 0.5 mg im now down to 0.08mg. Planing on one more drop before 4-8 weeks healing, then jump to zero. 14.03.17: Lexapro free!


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Posted 18 March 2017 - 02:01 AM

Lex, I am with you.
How good of you to updose a bit. I hope will feel more relief and then can do a smooth taper from here on. I can understand the heart failures scared you. How does it feel now?
Many hugs!

Tapering Zoloft since 2011. Current dose: 0,013 mg

 

0,019 mg 22 March 0,039 mg 18 March? 0,052 mg 16 March 0,079 mg 4 March 0,086 1 March 0,099 mg 22 February 0,11 mg 15 February 0,13 mg 6 February 0,145 mg 24 January 0,15 mg 19 January 0,19 mg 10 January 0,20 mg 3 January

 

2016: 0,98 to 0,22 mg

2015: 2,35 to 1,01 mg

2014: 4,9 to 2,5 mg

2013: 9,1 to 5,1 mg

2012: 15,7 to 9,7 mg

2011: Started on 25 mg - then 50 mg- dropped to 25- to 12.5 mg - back to 25 mg - after 18.75 mg started tiny tapering to 16.6 mg

 

Started on 25 mg Zoloft in March 2011 due to stressrelated tinnitus that gave me panicattacks, then after two weeks up to 50 mg, which dose I was only on for five weeks. Had a terrible reaction to Zoloft from start, but was told to "hold on". After four months on 25 mg/12 mg/18,75 mg I was stuck. Therefore the long taper. Crazy, I know... Super sensitive to drops and have dropped by 4-6 % from the prevoius dose all the way from 17,5 mg.


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Posted 18 March 2017 - 11:47 AM

We've been fooled so many times. These drugs are dangerous, they were designed to make you a chronic patient for the rest of your life. 

The pharmaceutical companies want us to be dependent on them, so they created this...

 

Hang on there LEX. You did well in updosing, now please stabilize... HUGS

 

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Unsuccessfully tried a withdrawal in 2014 and had to reinstate the drugs. (10mg of Escitalopram and 3mg of Bromazepam).
 
Started psychology (CTB and EMDR therapy) at the end of 2014. This worked very well for me and I considered my self healed from the social anxiety and all the traumas I had. In February of 2015  I started working again and led a normal life from that time onwards So a few months after feeling stable I started the withdrawal process again. Bought a jewelry scale and began tapering small doses of the AD:
 
October 2015 9mg of Escitalopram 3.0mg of Bromazepam ----- November 2015 8,1mg of Escitalopram 3.0mg of Bromazepam
March 2016 5mg of Escitalopram 3.0mg of Bromazepam ---- July 2016 2,70mg of Escitalopram 3.0mg of Bromazepam 
August 2016 2,42mg of Escitalopram 3.0mg of Bromazepam --- September 2016 2,27mg of Escitalopram 3.0mg of Bromazepam --- October 2016 2,12mg of Escitalopram 3.0mg of Bromazepam
Mid November 2016 1,97mg of Escitalopram 3.0mg of Bromazepam Mid December 2016 1,89mg of Escitalopram 3.0mg of Bromazepam--- February 2017 1,74mg of Escitalopram 3.0mg of Bromazepam --- March 2017 1,59mg of Escitalopram 3.0mg of Bromazepam
 
*Discontinuation symptoms (they come in waves and they tend to subside after 3 weeks after a reduction): Dizziness, vertigo, blurred vision, memory problems, difficult concentration, bloating belly and constipation. Working out at my local gym 4-5 days a week, helps to DRASTICALLY decrease the intensity of these symptoms.


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Posted 18 March 2017 - 01:43 PM

How are you Lex? Sorry to hear about your heart problems. Have you been to a ECG?

Sigh. These drugs are just pure poison 😡

<p>Sept 2015: 5 mg Cipralex for 3 weeks. Lots of side effects. Reduced to 2.5 mg for 2 weeks. Experiencing withdrawal and side effects still after dose reduction. Quit after almost 4 weeks on 2.5 mg because of adverse effects. Experiencing withdrawal symptoms still. Reinstating 1mg after 3 weeks. Reduced to 0.50 after 2 days due to sensitive reaction (dysautonomia) and trip to ER. January 2016: After 14 months of tapering from 0.5 mg im now down to 0.08mg. Planing on one more drop before 4-8 weeks healing, then jump to zero. 14.03.17: Lexapro free!


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Posted 18 March 2017 - 03:44 PM

My heart is back to function most of the day, with the tiny dose incraese like a miracle, I actually couldn't finish the 0.12 mg last night feeling too much already so just took 0.11 mg. this morning felt the typical drug reaction ( or let's just call it side effects) with needling pain, tension, tight teeth, aches allover, and slight nausea, but energy was almost was back wuite a bit without much sick feeling in heart. My spirit was even high evenough to try on those clothes I couldn't wear due to sickness, and for the upcoming summer.

After quite a lot debating, Also decided to push out for a long drive along the coast ( my typical activity every spring, and missing it so much this year) but returned due to cloudy weather and feeling weak and sick again right around the time. Ended up having a quick lunch on the way back, still feeling very unwell, so started dosing , Half hour later feeling better with 0.02 mg finished, even better after 0.04 mg done so went to a hiking trail for one hour. Feeling even better during the hike.

Now back home done with 0.04mg, still feeling ok except for the pain.

As for the heart problem, there are published research on how Lexapro and Celexa can cause serious heart disease by interface the electric signals. We have one member in the forum got serious heart damage from CT 10 mg Lexapro, she helped me with my initial heart issues back in 2015.

Things can't be more dramatic in the war with ssri!
<p>2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg, first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, slight improvement with pain2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR2016 Feb., started fast taper for the drug toxicity caused by the one dose of 4.2mg, dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, sliding Down to 0.13mg by 2/13, then 0.07mg since 2/18, 0.06mg 2/20-3/17, 0.13mg 3/18

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Posted 18 March 2017 - 09:11 PM

Thank all my dear friends! I'm so grateful to have you with me along this most incredible journey! the special friendship we built will be one of the thing I will cherish for the rest of my life, and I am also very grateful to alto for having this site to have us connected.

Love
Lex
<p>2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg, first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, slight improvement with pain2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR2016 Feb., started fast taper for the drug toxicity caused by the one dose of 4.2mg, dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, sliding Down to 0.13mg by 2/13, then 0.07mg since 2/18, 0.06mg 2/20-3/17, 0.13mg 3/18

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 09:58 AM

I am glad you felt so much better! These drugs!
I hope it continues, Lex. Enough of this for you now.

I am also very greatful, for the friendship - and for the site.
Hugs!

Tapering Zoloft since 2011. Current dose: 0,013 mg

 

0,019 mg 22 March 0,039 mg 18 March? 0,052 mg 16 March 0,079 mg 4 March 0,086 1 March 0,099 mg 22 February 0,11 mg 15 February 0,13 mg 6 February 0,145 mg 24 January 0,15 mg 19 January 0,19 mg 10 January 0,20 mg 3 January

 

2016: 0,98 to 0,22 mg

2015: 2,35 to 1,01 mg

2014: 4,9 to 2,5 mg

2013: 9,1 to 5,1 mg

2012: 15,7 to 9,7 mg

2011: Started on 25 mg - then 50 mg- dropped to 25- to 12.5 mg - back to 25 mg - after 18.75 mg started tiny tapering to 16.6 mg

 

Started on 25 mg Zoloft in March 2011 due to stressrelated tinnitus that gave me panicattacks, then after two weeks up to 50 mg, which dose I was only on for five weeks. Had a terrible reaction to Zoloft from start, but was told to "hold on". After four months on 25 mg/12 mg/18,75 mg I was stuck. Therefore the long taper. Crazy, I know... Super sensitive to drops and have dropped by 4-6 % from the prevoius dose all the way from 17,5 mg.


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Posted 20 March 2017 - 05:55 PM

Hi Lex - stopping by to see how you are doing . You did a few changes I gues celexa was no good, but at least you tried so now you know. I can completely relate on how scary it is to decide on what to do switch updose or taper you just never know . It sounds like you are doing better with the dose increase . Being in the nature always makes me feel good, I can't wait to hike soon also
Wishing you continuing progress and hang in there

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During 2013 found a new dr and started trying other medications:  Prozac, Notryptoline, Effexor, Buspar, Gabapentin, Paxil (each med about 2-4 months).  

MOI Nardil (about 1 year 2014-2015) which did help with anxiety, but caused ALOT of weight and had a food reaction that sent me to ER.  

Lexapro 10 mg 2015 -2016, few months 15 mg

Vibryiid 05/16-06/16 10-15 mg 

Started to withdraw from Vibryiid around mid June with last dose in early July 16.  Felt pretty good for the whole summer. Some anxiety, dizziness, short fuse, some weakness but okay overall. Comes October - dizziness, spinning, off balance feeling, FATIGUE, anxiety, fear, racing thoughts, insomnia, DP/DR

Reinstated 10/31/16 at 2.5 mg lexapro.  Some relief, sleep better, severe DP/DR decreased.  Still very anxious, exhausted, dizzy. 

Switched 12/26/16 Luvox 50 mg (25 mg am and 25 mg pm).  Dizziness, exhaustion, anxiety, sleeping ALOT 

1/13/17 switched to one dose of Luvox 50 mg before bed.  EXHAUSTED, sleeping ALOT, dizzy, weakness, off balance, anxiety 

1/20/17 Luvox 37.5 mg before bed

 

Supplements: iron, fish oil, vitamin D, methyl folate


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Posted 20 March 2017 - 05:58 PM

LexAnger - did you ever experience anxiety while tapering or being on lexapro ? I know experiences are different but I am curious . I used to love going to the gym but anxiety was keeping me from it from actually a lot of social places .

Lexapro 20 mg since 2007 until 2013 with various attempts to stop.  Most lasted 3 months, was forced to reinstate due to severe symptoms 

During 2013 found a new dr and started trying other medications:  Prozac, Notryptoline, Effexor, Buspar, Gabapentin, Paxil (each med about 2-4 months).  

MOI Nardil (about 1 year 2014-2015) which did help with anxiety, but caused ALOT of weight and had a food reaction that sent me to ER.  

Lexapro 10 mg 2015 -2016, few months 15 mg

Vibryiid 05/16-06/16 10-15 mg 

Started to withdraw from Vibryiid around mid June with last dose in early July 16.  Felt pretty good for the whole summer. Some anxiety, dizziness, short fuse, some weakness but okay overall. Comes October - dizziness, spinning, off balance feeling, FATIGUE, anxiety, fear, racing thoughts, insomnia, DP/DR

Reinstated 10/31/16 at 2.5 mg lexapro.  Some relief, sleep better, severe DP/DR decreased.  Still very anxious, exhausted, dizzy. 

Switched 12/26/16 Luvox 50 mg (25 mg am and 25 mg pm).  Dizziness, exhaustion, anxiety, sleeping ALOT 

1/13/17 switched to one dose of Luvox 50 mg before bed.  EXHAUSTED, sleeping ALOT, dizzy, weakness, off balance, anxiety 

1/20/17 Luvox 37.5 mg before bed

 

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 07:03 PM


Thanks Any and Blondiee!

So the second day I was able to take 0.12mg, feeling pretty good for 2 days. Then after 3 days on the increased dose, the drug reaction flared back in full force. After the first tiny dose of about 0.004 mg in morning, severe reaction symptoms burning, tightening teeth, feel like every muscle in head is spasmed, super uncomfortable the entire body wanting to burst out, extreme dry month. These lasted entire day even without taking any more doses. These are my typical drug reaction symptoms. Now in evening the severe DR also flared back. I'm very scared of taking more doses.

The past three day my body is in great craving for drug, and the drug provided quick relief of the heart problem, paralyzed left brain and body, breathlessness. Now after the reaction this morning, my body is rejecting the drug completely. At the same time, no WD symptoms at all entire day even without taking the dose until now except for the tiny tough in the morning.

Totally stacked.
<p>2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg, first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, slight improvement with pain2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR2016 Feb., started fast taper for the drug toxicity caused by the one dose of 4.2mg, dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, sliding Down to 0.13mg by 2/13, then 0.07mg since 2/18, 0.06mg 2/20-3/17, 0.13mg 3/18

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 07:07 PM

LexAnger - did you ever experience anxiety while tapering or being on lexapro ? I know experiences are different but I am curious . I used to love going to the gym but anxiety was keeping me from it from actually a lot of social places .


I remember I used to feel very anxious those years when I was on Lexapro more consistently. During severe WD, I don't feel obvious anxiety if any, at most just some background anxious feeling. I also feel extreme difficulty in meeting ppl and getting in public places but I think it's due to my super uncomfortable and tense body. Or I should say my anxiety is more physical than mental.
<p>2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg, first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, slight improvement with pain2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR2016 Feb., started fast taper for the drug toxicity caused by the one dose of 4.2mg, dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, sliding Down to 0.13mg by 2/13, then 0.07mg since 2/18, 0.06mg 2/20-3/17, 0.13mg 3/18

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 10:21 PM

How did it go, Lex?

Tapering Zoloft since 2011. Current dose: 0,013 mg

 

0,019 mg 22 March 0,039 mg 18 March? 0,052 mg 16 March 0,079 mg 4 March 0,086 1 March 0,099 mg 22 February 0,11 mg 15 February 0,13 mg 6 February 0,145 mg 24 January 0,15 mg 19 January 0,19 mg 10 January 0,20 mg 3 January

 

2016: 0,98 to 0,22 mg

2015: 2,35 to 1,01 mg

2014: 4,9 to 2,5 mg

2013: 9,1 to 5,1 mg

2012: 15,7 to 9,7 mg

2011: Started on 25 mg - then 50 mg- dropped to 25- to 12.5 mg - back to 25 mg - after 18.75 mg started tiny tapering to 16.6 mg

 

Started on 25 mg Zoloft in March 2011 due to stressrelated tinnitus that gave me panicattacks, then after two weeks up to 50 mg, which dose I was only on for five weeks. Had a terrible reaction to Zoloft from start, but was told to "hold on". After four months on 25 mg/12 mg/18,75 mg I was stuck. Therefore the long taper. Crazy, I know... Super sensitive to drops and have dropped by 4-6 % from the prevoius dose all the way from 17,5 mg.


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Posted 20 March 2017 - 10:42 PM

So grateful to hear you Amy! You are always there for my rescue!

Feeling totally defeated and desparate entire night. Even the energy is good for gym, by pst skipped as feeling so uncomfortable every cell of my body.

Surprisingly, the rest dosing didn't bring up new symptoms neither worsening the existing ones. So finished 0.08 mg by now at 11:30pm. DR lessened too ( scary fell like close to hallucinations), still itchy allover plus needling and achy head.

Thinking to take the rest 0.04mg if doable, then see what happens tomorrow. As I know lower doses will bring the heart problem back, so need to bear with the reaction as much as possible.

No WD symptoms entire day, all from reaction. This is typical in my experience they usually don't coexist for a given hour, or day like today.

I'm guessing the dose incraese numbed great amount neurons so serotonin level is too high today causing the reaction symptoms, and the same reason for WD in check.

Hard to believe this tiny dose can do so much, must be the extremely sensitized system.

Hope is, giving the absolute dose amount is so small, reaction is limited in long term effects,

Been in so much tourture for so long, I couldn't help but cried few times talking to friends at work about the horrible suffering and how hard to get through each day,and how hopeless the situation is, not typical of me being a single mom and always strong for my son.

Will wait for a better update.
<p>2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg, first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, slight improvement with pain2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR2016 Feb., started fast taper for the drug toxicity caused by the one dose of 4.2mg, dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, sliding Down to 0.13mg by 2/13, then 0.07mg since 2/18, 0.06mg 2/20-3/17, 0.13mg 3/18

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 10:43 PM

Sorry focused so too much about my misery.

How are you doing?
<p>2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg, first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, slight improvement with pain2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR2016 Feb., started fast taper for the drug toxicity caused by the one dose of 4.2mg, dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, sliding Down to 0.13mg by 2/13, then 0.07mg since 2/18, 0.06mg 2/20-3/17, 0.13mg 3/18

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 11:38 PM

It must be so hard. Try to focus on that it won't be long until all this is over. When this whole drug situation comes to end. I really believe you will feel so much better drug free.
I cant give you advice, you know your body the best. Just remember I am here to support you.
Good of you to open up to some of your colleagues, that must be a relief.
I hope you can have a good night's sleep! Many hugs!

(I am ok. I feel "lighter" :). )

Tapering Zoloft since 2011. Current dose: 0,013 mg

 

0,019 mg 22 March 0,039 mg 18 March? 0,052 mg 16 March 0,079 mg 4 March 0,086 1 March 0,099 mg 22 February 0,11 mg 15 February 0,13 mg 6 February 0,145 mg 24 January 0,15 mg 19 January 0,19 mg 10 January 0,20 mg 3 January

 

2016: 0,98 to 0,22 mg

2015: 2,35 to 1,01 mg

2014: 4,9 to 2,5 mg

2013: 9,1 to 5,1 mg

2012: 15,7 to 9,7 mg

2011: Started on 25 mg - then 50 mg- dropped to 25- to 12.5 mg - back to 25 mg - after 18.75 mg started tiny tapering to 16.6 mg

 

Started on 25 mg Zoloft in March 2011 due to stressrelated tinnitus that gave me panicattacks, then after two weeks up to 50 mg, which dose I was only on for five weeks. Had a terrible reaction to Zoloft from start, but was told to "hold on". After four months on 25 mg/12 mg/18,75 mg I was stuck. Therefore the long taper. Crazy, I know... Super sensitive to drops and have dropped by 4-6 % from the prevoius dose all the way from 17,5 mg.


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Posted 21 March 2017 - 07:40 AM

Thinking of you Lex. Your strength is beyond what most people can understand. Being a single mom in all this. You are doing an incredible job!

<p>Sept 2015: 5 mg Cipralex for 3 weeks. Lots of side effects. Reduced to 2.5 mg for 2 weeks. Experiencing withdrawal and side effects still after dose reduction. Quit after almost 4 weeks on 2.5 mg because of adverse effects. Experiencing withdrawal symptoms still. Reinstating 1mg after 3 weeks. Reduced to 0.50 after 2 days due to sensitive reaction (dysautonomia) and trip to ER. January 2016: After 14 months of tapering from 0.5 mg im now down to 0.08mg. Planing on one more drop before 4-8 weeks healing, then jump to zero. 14.03.17: Lexapro free!


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Posted 21 March 2017 - 12:41 PM

Yes, Amy. I'm very lucky in that regards. I have quite a few trusting friends at work (they are the only ones really as outsiders truely understand) who I shed my agony to. They even read books, informations, and SA stories to understand the real problem and suffering. One of them analyze my daily situation and provide her insightful opinion on strategy for tapering plan etc. helping me with decision on how to make it possible to keep the job.

Going through this process for so long without being the high performer I used to be is very heartbreaking, and it's very difficult to maintain respect from ppl around you-- which is even more heartbreaking, it's a true blessing these kind and wise souls not only have empathy but also kept respect ( to the minimal dignity I'm trying so hard to maintain when present myself).

I own them for life.
<p>2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg, first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, slight improvement with pain2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR2016 Feb., started fast taper for the drug toxicity caused by the one dose of 4.2mg, dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, sliding Down to 0.13mg by 2/13, then 0.07mg since 2/18, 0.06mg 2/20-3/17, 0.13mg 3/18

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Posted 21 March 2017 - 12:48 PM

Thank you cipromillion for your very touching words and encouragement!

Yes, being a single mom made a super women out of me going through the extreme journey. I put a period to my mind long time ago that regardless how much I want to take the easy path, I have no such option. Ppl know my battle often comments the streghth I have, I always tell that every single one going throu this is a hero, even you were not hero material originally.
<p>2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg, first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, slight improvement with pain2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR2016 Feb., started fast taper for the drug toxicity caused by the one dose of 4.2mg, dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, sliding Down to 0.13mg by 2/13, then 0.07mg since 2/18, 0.06mg 2/20-3/17, 0.13mg 3/18





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