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Hello fellow Aussies,

 

I just thought I'd check in here and say hello! I'm in Sydney person and at the moment I'm taping off zyprexa. This is one horrible drug and has cause a lot of problems, but I'm hoping to be off by late January. Then I'll think about coming off Effexor. Can't wait to be drug free!

 

There is some great information on the site. I'm so glad I found it.

 

Lucy

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Welcome Lucy G,  you are lucky you havent been on this stuff long.  Best wishes from WA.

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Hi from Sydney!

 

I am currently struggling with zyprexa withdrawal and would love to hear from other Sydney members on SA!

 

Rico

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Welcome :)

 

The more i learn of the australian mental health system, the more shocked i am that people promote australian health care as adequate.

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Hey Rico, Mitch from the Central Coast here! (Around an hours drive north)

 

How are you feeling today?

 

Dr Yolande Lucire may be able to help you depending on where you're at with things (her office is in edgecliffe). I've also just found an awesome expert on healing who's near Wyee (which may be a bit out of your way, but definitely had to mention him). Ron Fenwick - the eyes never lie; search youtube for his video.

 

Happy to help however I can - I'm now 7 months clean from forced Abilify injections.

 

@Buffy, I was never aware how bad it really is 'till I fell into it .. By then it was already too late :(

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Hi Mitch and Buffy!

 

The Australian health system is a joke. We have so many laws in Australia to protect citizens but mental health patients are treated like crap. I've been to a few public psych wards where doctors and nurses break the law all the time. It is disgusting what goes on in there. They truly believe that "medication" helps people, but the same patients are in and out all the time. Most of the public hospitals too are littered with inadequately trained doctors from overseas. But then again, an adequately trained psychiatrist would never work in places like that but be helping people come off drugs and help them get their lives back.

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Hi everyone. I'm based in Melbourne but travel between Syd/Melb. Interested if there's a meetup as I have felt very alone in this for a long time and don't know how to constructively process this anger and grief?? I don't get support from family/friends and don't trust health professionals.

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Hi beyond repair, i feel the same way but am not near you.

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Hi to all,

 

Sydney-sider here whose wife is currently on Pristiq (50 mg) after Eleva (100 mg) for postnatal depression, but based on reading around here and other places, I think it is responsible for the breakdown of my marriage and her sudden behavioural/mood/thought changes.

 

I would love to hear if anyone in Oz has had similar experiences, and knows anywhere that can help or give good advice regarding this.

 

Many thanks,

Dawood

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Just passing this along. Any parents that have messaged the Australian Antidepressants class action page, about their child's adverse effects with antidepressants, Aropax, Paroxetine, Zoloft, also known as many other names. Or if you were 18 years and under when you started taking those antidepressants, please contact Drayton Sher Lawyers in Sydney. tony@draytonsherlawyers.com.au There are journalists also on standby to chat to you. We need people to speak up, and donations how ever small, to move ahead. Please share our posts to reach every Australian.

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Yes Dawood,    the pills change personality, they did to me.        Led to the breakdown of my marriage, we were married nearly 30 years.           Hard thing for me to accept now,   was probably all my fault.

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Yes Dawood, the pills change personality, they did to me. Led to the breakdown of my marriage, we were married nearly 30 years. Hard thing for me to accept now, was probably all my fault.

You're not responsible for what may have happened whilst under the influence of the medication... going to a doctor or counsellor about anxiety/depression and wanting to get better is a noble thing.

 

The effects these can have on people - and everyone seems to be hit differently even though common threads - can be disastrous.

 

I have been trying to keep things together and hold ontothe roller coaster for the ladt 6 months. Still not giving up! But I hope there's no lasting effects once my wife has been totally off them for a while.

 

Wishing you all the very best,

 

Dawood

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Hi everyone, I'm in Australia - in the Northern Territory.  We have a very small community of doctors who change regularly or fly-in-out, so no real continuity or relationships are built.  Most GP's rely on the 'word' and 'opinion' of specialists, so are reluctant to supervise a taper plan to wean off Cymbalta.  They're more than happy to continue to prescribe it though - no questions asked. 

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I just signed the pettion on Change.org.

I have to say that I did not have a positive experience with Tony Nikolic or Drayton Sher Lawyers.

After they sent me a notice to send them a $500 donation, (which I did not), I have never heard from them again.

I called 2 or 3 times in 2015, they never got back to me. I found them very unprofessional. I hope that everyone else has better luck with it.

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I had the exact same experience. I always thought this was just for Aropax. A class action alone against GSK alone would be monumental. Red flags began when they said they also wanted to go after Pfizer and Eli Lily. So, an obscure law firm no one's heard of is going to bring a lawsuit against multiple giants simultaneously, when just one would be landmark in Aus.

 

A pipe dream at best. The communication was poor, and after they're request for $500 donations went unanswered, so to did their meagre communication halt.

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Hi Berry Hamburger,

 

Every other lawyer I spoke to never asked for a donation. Slater and Gordon are very professional. I was told that it is hard to sue the doctor in question if he/she was not aware of the possible side effects an individual might experience as a result of taking Antidepressants. I got the same response from few others. They never asked me to make any payments.

Apparently doctors do not have to disclose every single side effect that you might experience from an antidepressant. The law in Victoria protects the doctors and patients suffer as a result. That makes me really angry!

It is obvious that Tony and the mob don't have the funds to take on these pharmaceutical giants. Very obscure indeed.

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Yes Dawood, the pills change personality, they did to me. Led to the breakdown of my marriage, we were married nearly 30 years. Hard thing for me to accept now, was probably all my fault.

You're not responsible for what may have happened whilst under the influence of the medication... going to a doctor or counsellor about anxiety/depression and wanting to get better is a noble thing.

 

The effects these can have on people - and everyone seems to be hit differently even though common threads - can be disastrous.

 

I have been trying to keep things together and hold ontothe roller coaster for the ladt 6 months. Still not giving up! But I hope there's no lasting effects once my wife has been totally off them for a while.

 

Wishing you all the very best,

 

Dawood

 

Hello everyone,  I  been so ill, Chronic Fatigue, everything, now find out my house is full of moulds, so going off the ADS, and the moulds?  I was so sick, so wanting to die,  ie not wanting to die, but just wishing I wouldnt wake up/  Well NOW! Realising the moulds have caused so much issues, I dragged myself to apply for jobs.              wow, I am now employed 150 km from my home, midweek I am in Gnowangerup, weekends, home, Albany.          The public housing are now taking notice, I got PROFESSIONAL testing done, and I reported it to the MINISTER.                Anyway, the moulds, I knew I had to leave, and like any dying person, you make a change.  I did, I had enough strength left, as a dying person does, that doesnt want to die, but prays for death...............................                              Wow,  I now work ........... only three days away, out of mouldy house, I feel so much better.  Exhausted, but I have CFS because of these moulds.................................................                   so ALL I WANT TO SAY IS.............. thank god for this site......................RIDE THE **** THROUGH< and I now consider myself a success off this crap.

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Hi Ang - so glad to hear that you have made some positive changes in your life and they have helped you recover even more.

 

Wishing you all the very best mate!

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Hello There 

 

I am a fellow Aussie tapering off Pristiq. 

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Hello There 

 

I am a fellow Aussie tapering off Pristiq. 

Hi Andie,

 

Wishing you all the very best on your taper - Pristiq is awful, and my wife (and our relationship/family) has gone through hell and still no end in sight.

 

She has been clear of the medication for about 2 weeks now after tapering by alternating days (as opposed to a 10% taper made by using a compounding chemist). She suffered terribly from the withdrawal.

 

I hope that you take it easy, and have a good support network around you.

 

All the best!

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Hi Dawood

 

Thank you for the kind words.

 

I understand the devastating influence this medication can have on your relationships . Ive experienced it myself. I didn't realise this until I reduced my dose low enough that I was no longer suffering from the side effects. I was fatigued, in a lot of pain and finding it hard to sleep. I know now I was very irritable and hard to be around.

 

I'm so grateful To be feeling more like my old self. I'm still only able to work part time, so hopefully this will sort itself out in due course.

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Hi all you Aussies!

 

Rico said in November:

I've been to a few public psych wards where doctors and nurses break the law all the time. It is disgusting what goes on in there. They truly believe that "medication" helps people, but the same patients are in and out all the time. Most of the public hospitals too are littered with inadequately trained doctors from overseas. But then again, an adequately trained psychiatrist would never work in places like that but be helping people come off drugs and help them get their lives back. 

 

I have a friend who just went to a private, highly acclaimed hospital in a posh neighborhood.  It's one that she went to 3 years ago, and had a 2 year relationship with them then (so 5 years all up).  The psychiatrists are highly trained, respected professionals in the field, and are "experts" in CBT, DBT, ACT, and eating disorders.  

 

My friend said - that the same people (patients) were there who were there 5 years ago. And they weren't any better.  Revolving door, in and out, in and out, cycling into deep dependence with the system.

 

It was actually a public hospital which diagnosed a case of akathisia here (also a friend) in Brisbane, she went to Emergency Room and they diagnosed her with akathisia and a drug reaction. (Ironically, the drugs had been given her by the private hospital I described in the previous paragraph)

 

So it's still quite a mixed bag.  By comparison, I had a friend who had a panic meltdown in the US.  She is on disability and pension.  Her 5 day stay in the hospital landed her with a $12k bill that she will be paying for 20 years.  She has had easily 50 hospitalizations over the course of her life (and been on pension/disability the whole time) - but this is the first time she got such a bill.  It's not Obamacare to blame, it's corporatization.  

 

All of these are motivators for "not getting caught," for staying away from hospitals for your emotional and thinking problems.  

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Hey Dawood - would your wife come here?

 

Alternating days is a horrendous way to taper, and it would be good if she could have the support of people who understand withdrawal.

 

Here's a thread on marriages which have suffered from these drugs http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/6714-marriages-destroyed-by-ssri-snri-topix/

 

and ANDIE - welcome!

 

I used to run a coffee meet for Brisbane area folks - but I had trouble getting people to actually get out of the house and come and meet strangers.  Stressful.  The key is to find a friendly, central place (preferably outdoor seating, that's more comfortable for anxiety ridden people), maybe a beautiful place (we went to the top of Mt. Coot-tha and it is so beautiful up there!), with GF, vegan options on the menu.  Pick a time and a date, and invite everyone you know from your area.  And good luck!

 

It was a bit like herding cats for me, and I decided that the stress of it was not worth the benefit for me, but I would support anyone else who wanted to do it in the area!  I think that people too, were afraid that - if this is all we have in common (the drugs) - will we find anything to talk about?

 

But - I also found that - those of us who are put onto the drugs are usually loveable, fascinating, caring people, so there was plenty to talk about.

 

You can send PM's to more than one person to arrange meet ups.  Just posting here isn't enough - if you want a meet up - make it happen!  I've personally met several SA members in my travels, and it is always rewarding and a relief to be among people who "get it."

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Hey Dawood - would your wife come here?

 

Alternating days is a horrendous way to taper, and it would be good if she could have the support of people who understand withdrawal.

 

Here's a thread on marriages which have suffered from these drugs http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/6714-marriages-destroyed-by-ssri-snri-topix/

Hi JanCarol,

 

Unfortunately, no, she is not at a stage to do so... we are separated, though I am back living in the family home. It is not easy. She decided to come off the meds to prove me wrong - that she has indeed fallen out of love with me after 12 years, a house and 2 kids - and that it is not due to the emotional blunting of the meds.

 

Due to that, she would not heed my advice, taken from here, of the 10% taper.

 

And yes, I have read it many times - it's like a bible to me at present. However, there are more unhappy stories than happy outcomes, so I am trying to not focus on those too much...

 

Many thanks for your response!

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Hey Dawood - would your wife come here?

 

Alternating days is a horrendous way to taper, and it would be good if she could have the support of people who understand withdrawal.

 

Here's a thread on marriages which have suffered from these drugs http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/6714-marriages-destroyed-by-ssri-snri-topix/

 

and ANDIE - welcome!

 

I used to run a coffee meet for Brisbane area folks - but I had trouble getting people to actually get out of the house and come and meet strangers.  Stressful.  The key is to find a friendly, central place (preferably outdoor seating, that's more comfortable for anxiety ridden people), maybe a beautiful place (we went to the top of Mt. Coot-tha and it is so beautiful up there!), with GF, vegan options on the menu.  Pick a time and a date, and invite everyone you know from your area.  And good luck!

 

It was a bit like herding cats for me, and I decided that the stress of it was not worth the benefit for me, but I would support anyone else who wanted to do it in the area!  I think that people too, were afraid that - if this is all we have in common (the drugs) - will we find anything to talk about?

 

But - I also found that - those of us who are put onto the drugs are usually loveable, fascinating, caring people, so there was plenty to talk about.

 

You can send PM's to more than one person to arrange meet ups.  Just posting here isn't enough - if you want a meet up - make it happen!  I've personally met several SA members in my travels, and it is always rewarding and a relief to be among people who "get it."

Hi JanCarol 

 

A big hello to you too! So happy to have found this forum. 

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Hi Everyone,  i'm in Sydney & I am also going through a long protracted withdrawal from psych meds (tapering since 2012 - present)

I am interested in any meet ups or support groups. 

I feel like i'm not the same person I was before antidepressants - does anyone else feel the same?

I feel like I withdrew from everyone when i started tapering effexor because of the extreme anxiety withdrawal gave me.

I still have a way to go and feel like my old life is so far away from where I am now.

Just gotta stay positive.

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Hi Everyone, i'm in Sydney & I am also going through a long protracted withdrawal from psych meds (tapering since 2012 - present)

I am interested in any meet ups or support groups.

I feel like i'm not the same person I was before antidepressants - does anyone else feel the same?

I feel like I withdrew from everyone when i started tapering effexor because of the extreme anxiety withdrawal gave me.

I still have a way to go and feel like my old life is so far away from where I am now.

Just gotta stay positive.

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Hello Andie and all.

 

I was on effexor,  which I believe is venalaxafine.   I truly believe this is the horror of all SSRIs.    I was on 375mg I think.

 

Was a long hard road, I finally think I am over the worst of it.        

 

Good luck all, just ride it out, we get there in the end.

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Hi

Unfortunately I'm all the way over in Perth.

 

Yes, My personality changed and I also started to isolate myself. The thought of being social while being anxious and physically unwell just compounded the original anxiety. Then I would think about how isolated I was feeling and feel anxious about that too!

 

Now that I am feeling much better, it's naturally easier to be out and about and part of life. Some of my relationships didn't survive. I don't know what the answer is, but for me It is to continue to try and take things one day at a time.

 

Things can and do get better.

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My personality changed also.          So glad I am rediscovering the real me.  Just seems 10 years like were in a dreamlike state.  I am so glad I survived this horror now.        Hard, but I survived.      My relationship didnt survive.But I dont think it was meant to....................

anyhow,  I am in Western Australia, not able to meet up for anything. 

 

While very unwell, I could not leave the house, some days in bed, chronic fatigue, horrific, wishing to die each day.

 

However, I now find a lot of my problems was a mouldy house.      So NEVER assume all the health problems are from the SSRIs............ After two years, I KNEW there was another problem.

 

Best wishes to all, hang in there, and remember, the only one who cares about YOU is YOU.

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Hi all,

 

I'm in Melbourne. Just thought I'd say hi.

 

Tikki

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Hi everyone I'm in Brisbane 

 

I have been on antidepressants for 20+ years and most of that time on Dothep. I have tried many times to come off but never been entirely successful. I now realise from reading through information on the internet and now this wonderful forum that I was experiencing withdrawal symptoms every time I tried to reduce. I was interpreting these symptoms as a need to stay on the medication and because a psychiatrist once told me to never expect to come off them I just gave up.

I have done a massive amount of work in therapy and a huge amount of healing and I genuinely feel I don't need to be depressed anymore. I'm determined to be free of antidepressants  and the devastation they reek on my body. 

Before reading about tapering by 10% I began by reducing from 100mg to 75mg. One week on, so far so good ( and usually I'm suffering from insomnia and rages by now). So I'm feeling really hopeful but realistic too. 

From what I've learned on this forum I understand I should continue to taper by 10% from now on and to try that on a monthly basis first.

 

My question is have members in Australia been successful in getting support from GPs to taper by 10% and then found pharmacies able/willing to do that with Dothep? 

Thanks in advance! 

J

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Gus here from geelong. Just found the aussie check in so checking in. Tapered 150mg effexor over about 3&1/2 -4 months and feeling it. Just bearable most of the time. Been at zero for 11 weeks now. Seems worse during the day than at night. Able to sleep which is good. Maybe getting aggrivated by body clock during the day? Man withdrawal isn't nice at all. Condidering reinstating if things get worse. Don't wanna have to fight like this for years if a few beads might make it esasier but what if i only have to keep fighting a few more months?

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Hello Gussy ,  you did a very quick taper?   I am not an expert, but EFFEXOR is poison, I was on 375mg for about 5 years.         I went off like you did, Christmas 2012,  big mistake, but I had not found this site by then.       Anyhow, what I can say is,    there is a chart, so even though the first few reductions might have seemed fine, as you get lower, the effect of the drug is much bigger,  ie giving up that last 10mg,  is a hell of a lot harder than going from 150 mg to 140mg.  

On the good side, is at 150mg, it was only acting as an SSRI.                        In my case on 375mg, it was the dosage of being two drugs, an SSRI,  AND and SRNI.        So you might cope heaps better than I did.        

 

Anyhow feel free to pm me.           I believe it takes months for the stuff to finally leave the body, that is the danger period, ie when it is near all out of your body... you been used to having effexor around.             

Also if you do feel the need to reinstate, DONT jump straight back to 100mg or anything,  just start with say 10mg,  see if it helps.   You are doing so well, so as low a dose that you need to take, if the withdrawals get bad, are good for two reasons.............. 1.  less to taper  when ready to try again   2.....  your body is used now to a much lower dose, and in some cases, jumping back in too high, can make things a whole heap worse.
 

Anyway, nice to meet another Aussie, who is in the effexor trap.         Effexor is the NASTIEST of them all, in my opinion, and from others as well. 

Best of luck!             (and my own opinion, if you fall pregnant, go off the stuff IMMEDIATELY)..........     I found that pregnancy hormones kicked in for me, never needed the stuff while pregnant. And so much better for the bub.

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