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#1 WinningThrough

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 12:33 PM

Hi

Just a thought..there are some partial recovery stories on here and these are great and very uplifting. I love these stories. Recovery doesn't have to be complete. Recovery can be a place that isn't perfect but is better than it was.

I just wondered if anyone had any stories of partial recovery? For example, going from non-functional to functional or from the acute phase to the post acute phase.

It would give a lot of hope for those in the acute phase. I've gone from wanting to be 100% healed to thinking a 50% improvement would be absolutely amazing or moving out of the acute phase would be awesome.

Something to think about.

Thanks.
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Aug 2013 - Augmentin leading to akathisia
Sept-Nov 2013 - Citalopram 20mg, severe reaction, off at 5mg. Valium 4mg, prn
Oct 2013 - 5 zopiclone tablets, 7.5mg
End Nov 2013-end Feb 2014, Seroquel, top dose 150mg, off at 25mg
End Nov 2013-early march 2014, Zoloft 100mg top dose, off at 25mg
End Dec-2013-early April 2014, lorazepam 1mg prn
April 3rd 2014 zoloft 5mg for a few days. 18/4/14 - zoloft, 1mg. Came off at 0.35 mg,14th June 2014
29 June 2014 - 1mg lorazepam, last ever
29 June 2014 - med free

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 12:51 PM

We have many of those partial recovery stories in the Intro forum. As they're works in progress, the Intro topics gradually evolve.


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#3 btdt

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 07:39 PM

Withdrawal is so different for different people partly perhaps due to how they got off the drug the dose and how long they have been drugged... so may variables. Some could be well on there way to healing after 6 months while others are just crawling out of bed.  There are too many variables for this to be truly productive reading through the countless threads and finding a situation that sounds like your may seem a good idea but even then you will find our own body make up or other not yet understood variables through theories out the window. I know because I have been reading posts for 6+ years... and that is what I have found.  We are all flying by the seat of our pants here and all hoping. That is about the best I can tell you. 


WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivinganti...ng-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 09:12 PM

No offence btdt but I have a more optimistic view that the one you present.  I don't believe I am flying by the seat of my pants.  I make good decisions for myself, despite uncertainty.   I seek advice when I am unsure. I'm prepared to admit when I am wrong,  I read others stories and heed lessons from their experience.   Witnessing others on a path to recovery helps me to maintain hope.

 

I know I am in a lot better position that others on this site, I am also in a lot better position than when I first got here.  Bit by bit I have created my own recovery-in-progress.  I agree that we should keep these in the intro section but I also think they are of great value.  No-ones story will tell you what to do but it can provide guidance, support and hope.  

 

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Please note - I am not a medical practitioner and I do not give medical advice. I offer an opinion based on my own experiences, reading and discussion with others.On Effexor for 2 months at the start of 2005. Had extreme insomnia as an adverse reaction. Changed to mirtazapine. Have been trying to get off since mid 2008 with numerous failures including CTs and slow (but not slow enough tapers)Have slow tapered at 10 per cent or less for years. I have liquid mirtazapine made at a compounding chemist.
Was on 1.6 ml as at 19 March 2014.
Dropped to 1.5 ml 7 June 2014. Dropped to 1.4 in about September.
Dropped to 1.3 on 20 December 2014. Dropped to 1.2 in mid Jan 2015.
Dropped to 1 ml in late Feb 2015. I think my old medication had run out of puff so I tried 1ml when I got the new stuff and it seems to be going ok. Sleep has been good over the last week (as of 13/3/15).
Dropped to 1/2 ml 14/11/15 Fatigue still there as are memory and cognition problems. Sleep is patchy but liveable compared to what it has been in the past.

>My intro post is here - http://survivinganti...ic/2250-dalsaan

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 05:57 AM

I guess your more of the norm... I wasn't so what appears to be a difference of opinion really isn't it is a difference of experience you withdrawal experience is very different from mine... we agree on keeping this in the intro... for different reasons.  I will say there are many things I have found that have helped me they were not all on withdrawal sites or lets say just one withdrawal site I have looked every place online and in books ect.  I think it is important to keep looking.  Eventually it will all get here.   I agree if you looking for taper advice and are tapering your point is stellar but if your a cold turkey person we don't fit here quite as neatly. 

There are so many issues that differ.. even if your tapering.  Different drugs different health issues specific to each body... different healing rates ... it can be mind boggling.  

No withdrawal

Withdrawal

Tolerance 

Protracted withdrawal 

While there are common threads there are many differences too. The truth is it is asking a lot of any domain to cover all of these issues and is particularly difficult for people in withdrawal to navigate.  I understand wanting to section it to smaller bites. We have to start some place tho and so we do. 


WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivinganti...ng-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)


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Posted 11 May 2014 - 02:19 PM

I am partly recovered.  I haven't put my story up because it was so traumatizing to revisit but I am in the process of trying to write it. 

 

But for those who are in a bad way right now, I managed to recover completely from severe akathisia and partly from memory loss so profound I forgot most of my memories of my own life (my problems were caused by multiple drugs, and withdrawals including a c/t, and several adverse reactions).  And many other problems as well.  A friend of mine also managed an astounding partial recovery after being drugged with almost every psych drug available, given for over a period of almost two decades, and all for a physical problem.  He reacted to pretty well all of those drugs too...His story in some respects is still more amazing than mine as at points he lost his memory so badly if I recall he didn't even know his own name or where he was...And that was a long fall for him as he was a literal genius with an incredible memory.

 

So do take heart, a lot more is possible than we may believe...


Partly recovered from AD withdrawal/reactions as well as issues with other psych drugs.  Also, I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions. Also due to the withdrawal/reactions I have had I may at times have cognitive problems so please keep this in mind when reading my posts (also please note, these issues are improving as I recover).

 


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Posted 11 May 2014 - 03:08 PM

THANK YOU unfoldingsky. You have no idea how much this helps me. Thank you.
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Aug 2013 - Augmentin leading to akathisia
Sept-Nov 2013 - Citalopram 20mg, severe reaction, off at 5mg. Valium 4mg, prn
Oct 2013 - 5 zopiclone tablets, 7.5mg
End Nov 2013-end Feb 2014, Seroquel, top dose 150mg, off at 25mg
End Nov 2013-early march 2014, Zoloft 100mg top dose, off at 25mg
End Dec-2013-early April 2014, lorazepam 1mg prn
April 3rd 2014 zoloft 5mg for a few days. 18/4/14 - zoloft, 1mg. Came off at 0.35 mg,14th June 2014
29 June 2014 - 1mg lorazepam, last ever
29 June 2014 - med free

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 03:57 PM

No problem Winning Through.  I am hoping you get a big window ASAP.  And I'll work on my story some more, hopefully get it up soon too.


Partly recovered from AD withdrawal/reactions as well as issues with other psych drugs.  Also, I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions. Also due to the withdrawal/reactions I have had I may at times have cognitive problems so please keep this in mind when reading my posts (also please note, these issues are improving as I recover).

 


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Posted 11 May 2014 - 04:05 PM

Btdt,

I agree we are speaking from different experiences and that no two are the same. That's why I challenged you generalising from your experience to say that it's futile looking at what has happened to others.

The point is not to search through everyone's thread to find one that matches your situation and to do what they did-that's not what was being suggested and it's never going to be productive. However, learning bits and pieces from the collective experience and wisdom is useful. As is gaining hope from the fact that others have experienced positive change.


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Please note - I am not a medical practitioner and I do not give medical advice. I offer an opinion based on my own experiences, reading and discussion with others.On Effexor for 2 months at the start of 2005. Had extreme insomnia as an adverse reaction. Changed to mirtazapine. Have been trying to get off since mid 2008 with numerous failures including CTs and slow (but not slow enough tapers)Have slow tapered at 10 per cent or less for years. I have liquid mirtazapine made at a compounding chemist.
Was on 1.6 ml as at 19 March 2014.
Dropped to 1.5 ml 7 June 2014. Dropped to 1.4 in about September.
Dropped to 1.3 on 20 December 2014. Dropped to 1.2 in mid Jan 2015.
Dropped to 1 ml in late Feb 2015. I think my old medication had run out of puff so I tried 1ml when I got the new stuff and it seems to be going ok. Sleep has been good over the last week (as of 13/3/15).
Dropped to 1/2 ml 14/11/15 Fatigue still there as are memory and cognition problems. Sleep is patchy but liveable compared to what it has been in the past.

>My intro post is here - http://survivinganti...ic/2250-dalsaan

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 11:03 AM

I am partly recovered.  I haven't put my story up because it was so traumatizing to revisit but I am in the process of trying to write it. 

 

But for those who are in a bad way right now, I managed to recover completely from severe akathisia and partly from memory loss so profound I forgot most of my memories of my own life (my problems were caused by multiple drugs, and withdrawals including a c/t, and several adverse reactions).  And many other problems as well.  A friend of mine also managed an astounding partial recovery after being drugged with almost every psych drug available, given for over a period of almost two decades, and all for a physical problem.  He reacted to pretty well all of those drugs too...His story in some respects is still more amazing than mine as at points he lost his memory so badly if I recall he didn't even know his own name or where he was...And that was a long fall for him as he was a literal genius with an incredible memory.

 

So do take heart, a lot more is possible than we may believe...

Thank you for posting this is much like my story.  I wonder is the friend you speak of on here if not maybe he would like to be... I bet you have suggested it already I for one would like to hear his story.

peace to you...


WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivinganti...ng-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)


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Posted 17 May 2014 - 04:51 PM

Here's a partial success story in this topic: http://survivinganti...mental-success/

 

I've found that even after posting my success story, there's is still some recovery to go.  I didn't think that when I wrote it, but I'm realizing from time to time that I still have some withdrawal symptoms such as sleeplessness and anhedonia, but they are mild and fading away. I'm also finding that I'm needing much less medication to sleep, I'm getting up earlier, I have less physical pain and stiffness, and there are occasional moments of feeling utterly content like I used to experience on weekends when I was away from my utterly frustrating and stressful job. I'm able to keep busy nearly all of the time instead of having long stretches of boredom and consequent mild depression and fatigue. Today I was amazed that I was able to do gardening for about two hours, most of it on my knees, without having pain or exhaustion. I have been doing exercises for osteoporosis and following the alkaline-acid balanced diet, and I think both are helping now, but they might not have during earlier withdrawal.  More likely I never would have started either or stuck to them if I did.

 

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 10:54 PM

 

I am partly recovered.  I haven't put my story up because it was so traumatizing to revisit but I am in the process of trying to write it. 

 

But for those who are in a bad way right now, I managed to recover completely from severe akathisia and partly from memory loss so profound I forgot most of my memories of my own life (my problems were caused by multiple drugs, and withdrawals including a c/t, and several adverse reactions).  And many other problems as well.  A friend of mine also managed an astounding partial recovery after being drugged with almost every psych drug available, given for over a period of almost two decades, and all for a physical problem.  He reacted to pretty well all of those drugs too...His story in some respects is still more amazing than mine as at points he lost his memory so badly if I recall he didn't even know his own name or where he was...And that was a long fall for him as he was a literal genius with an incredible memory.

 

So do take heart, a lot more is possible than we may believe...

Thank you for posting this is much like my story.  I wonder is the friend you speak of on here if not maybe he would like to be... I bet you have suggested it already I for one would like to hear his story.

peace to you...

 

 

No, he's not on here.  Unfortunately we lost touch because of a rather trying circumstance.  I can post some of his story though but I will have to dig it up, he gave me permission to write about it before we lost contact.


Partly recovered from AD withdrawal/reactions as well as issues with other psych drugs.  Also, I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions. Also due to the withdrawal/reactions I have had I may at times have cognitive problems so please keep this in mind when reading my posts (also please note, these issues are improving as I recover).

 


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Posted 17 May 2014 - 10:55 PM

Jemima, thank you for posting, it's wonderful to know things can still improve. 


Partly recovered from AD withdrawal/reactions as well as issues with other psych drugs.  Also, I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions. Also due to the withdrawal/reactions I have had I may at times have cognitive problems so please keep this in mind when reading my posts (also please note, these issues are improving as I recover).

 


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Posted 21 May 2014 - 04:26 AM

Dear Unfoldingsky

 

 

I am interested in your story, as i am now 21 months free and still in severe hell. I have severe DR/DP, Memory problems are very severe, i feel confused and dizzy, i dont really konw whats happening around me if you know what i mean.

 

I c/t from 4 years paxil and when trying to reinstate a different drug, had a severe adverse reaction.

 

Im looking for hope. Is 21 months too early? No improvements. Really if the DR/DP would just improve i would be happy. I am worried and scared to death.

 

I am partly recovered.  I haven't put my story up because it was so traumatizing to revisit but I am in the process of trying to write it. 

 

But for those who are in a bad way right now, I managed to recover completely from severe akathisia and partly from memory loss so profound I forgot most of my memories of my own life (my problems were caused by multiple drugs, and withdrawals including a c/t, and several adverse reactions).  And many other problems as well.  A friend of mine also managed an astounding partial recovery after being drugged with almost every psych drug available, given for over a period of almost two decades, and all for a physical problem.  He reacted to pretty well all of those drugs too...His story in some respects is still more amazing than mine as at points he lost his memory so badly if I recall he didn't even know his own name or where he was...And that was a long fall for him as he was a literal genius with an incredible memory.

 

So do take heart, a lot more is possible than we may believe...



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Posted 21 May 2014 - 05:29 AM

No offence btdt but I have a more optimistic view that the one you present.  I don't believe I am flying by the seat of my pants.  I make good decisions for myself, despite uncertainty.   I seek advice when I am unsure. I'm prepared to admit when I am wrong,  I read others stories and heed lessons from their experience.   Witnessing others on a path to recovery helps me to maintain hope.

 

I know I am in a lot better position that others on this site, I am also in a lot better position than when I first got here.  Bit by bit I have created my own recovery-in-progress.  I agree that we should keep these in the intro section but I also think they are of great value.  No-ones story will tell you what to do but it can provide guidance, support and hope.  

 

Dalsaan

I did not think my view was presented as having no optimism... I was saying you can't count on your withdrawal to be exactly like anyone else we have agreed and at the same time you feel you have to take a poke at me I am maybe taking this personally ...

I find it happens to me a  lot on this website and maybe it is time I started my own for that very reason.... bit tiring being a target.  it gets old fast

That is how I am feeling here lately...like a target.  I know you will not miss me when I am gone.


WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivinganti...ng-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)


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Posted 21 May 2014 - 03:37 PM

 

Dear Unfoldingsky

 

 

I am interested in your story, as i am now 21 months free and still in severe hell. I have severe DR/DP, Memory problems are very severe, i feel confused and dizzy, i dont really konw whats happening around me if you know what i mean.

 

I c/t from 4 years paxil and when trying to reinstate a different drug, had a severe adverse reaction.

 

Im looking for hope. Is 21 months too early? No improvements. Really if the DR/DP would just improve i would be happy. I am worried and scared to death.

 

I am partly recovered.  I haven't put my story up because it was so traumatizing to revisit but I am in the process of trying to write it. 

 

But for those who are in a bad way right now, I managed to recover completely from severe akathisia and partly from memory loss so profound I forgot most of my memories of my own life (my problems were caused by multiple drugs, and withdrawals including a c/t, and several adverse reactions).  And many other problems as well.  A friend of mine also managed an astounding partial recovery after being drugged with almost every psych drug available, given for over a period of almost two decades, and all for a physical problem.  He reacted to pretty well all of those drugs too...His story in some respects is still more amazing than mine as at points he lost his memory so badly if I recall he didn't even know his own name or where he was...And that was a long fall for him as he was a literal genius with an incredible memory.

 

So do take heart, a lot more is possible than we may believe...

 

 

OliviaS,

 

Sorry you are still doing so badly that far out.  I had a very hard time for the first three years after a series of drug reactions and c/t, and yes had DP/DR for those years that was severe along with many other severe problems too (memory loss was really bad.)  I basically felt like I was out of my body for three years and felt like the world was not quite real.

 

I don't know if this is your situation but I also would have only about one or two windows a year, for some reason in the winter.  Initially after the first (mildish) drug reaction I had the usual windows and waves pattern (I took one dose of a drug that I had a mild reaction to, stopped it, then had some withdrawal) but as time wore on and I was put back on drugs and then taken off, the situation got much more complicated, eventually leading to the three year period with almost no windows, where it was honestly all I could do to just get through each day.

 

So things can turn around even if it has been a long time and even if it is severe.  I now no longer have DP/DR, I have back many memories of my past, I have better recall of recently formed memories, no akathisia to speak of, etc..

 

And also things could change for you even more quickly than they did me since I was put on more drugs than you and had issues with most of them.

 

Keep the faith things will turn around. 

 

Best wishes,

 

Unfolding Sky


Partly recovered from AD withdrawal/reactions as well as issues with other psych drugs.  Also, I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions. Also due to the withdrawal/reactions I have had I may at times have cognitive problems so please keep this in mind when reading my posts (also please note, these issues are improving as I recover).

 


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Posted 22 May 2014 - 10:53 PM

Here's my partial recovery success story: http://survivinganti...mental-success/


Started on Prozac and Xanax in 1992 for PTSD after an assault. One drug led to more, the usual story. Got sicker and sicker, but believed I needed the drugs for my "underlying disease" as I was told. Long and tragic story...lost everything. Life savings, home, physical and mental health, relationships, friendships, ability to work, everything.

 

Now tapering, ironically (but not surprisingly) healthier and more functional than I ever was during the years on the "meds," even with withdrawal (usually fairly mild at this slow pace).

 

Started multidrug taper in Feb 2010.  Doing a very slow microtaper, down to low doses now and feeling SO much better, getting my old personality and my brain back! Able to work full time, have a full social life, and cope with stress better than ever. Not perfect, but much better. After 23 lost years. Big Pharma has a lot to answer for. And "medicine for profit" is just not a great idea.

 

Feb 15 2010:  300 mg Neurontin  200 Lamictal   10 Celexa      0.65 Xanax   and 5 mg Ambien 

Feb 14 2011:   86 mg Neurontin   144 Lamictal,    5.5 Celexa   0.42 Xanax      1.9 mg Valium

Feb 16 2012:   10 mg Neurontin   115 Lamictal     3.7 Celexa   0.285 Xanax     2.0 Valium

Feb 22 2013:   86 Lamictal    2.05 Celexa       0.23 Xanax      1.8 Valium

Feb 10 2014:   62 Lamictal    1.1 Celexa         0.135 Xanax    1.8 Valium

Feb 10 2015:   50 Lamictal      0.875 Celexa    0.11 Xanax      1.5 Valium

Feb 15 2016:   47.5 Lamictal   0.75 Celexa      0.0875 Xanax    1.42 Valium    

Now:                43                    0.625                 0.0775            1.3

 

I'm not a doctor. Any advice I give is just my civilian opinion.


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Posted 23 May 2014 - 02:09 AM

Here is my partial success story. :) 

http://survivinganti...9-nearly-there/


**I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge.

 

See how to create a signature here http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/12364-please-put-your-withdrawal-history-in-your-signature/

 

Many drugs for many years, prescribed diazepam first 1973, took occasionally. 3 or 4 tricyclics  for short periods.

1993 had a breakdown leading to 10 years of drug experiments with all classes of psych drugs.

2002  effexor. 

Tapered by counting beads from March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads.

Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013

Restarted taper  Nov 2013  

OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015    :D 

 

Also tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014

 

Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg -hold- Feb2016 46mg  March 8 2016 45 April 44mg  May 11  43mg June 14 42mg

Taking fish oil, magnesium, pro biotic.

 

My story http://survivinganti...king-in/page-33

 

Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible

 

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#19 NoMeaning25

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 02:43 AM

UnfoldingSky

 

 

Thank you very much for this. I really needed the hope and encouragement. I have only experienced one window, that was more than a year ago. I am really really hoping and praying that the DR/DP will lessen and go away. II have it very severely and like you, my memories are mostly gone.

 

I am very happy to hear that you are doing much better and that the DR/DP went away. If i may ask, was there anything specific you did to aid in your recovery? Diet, meditation etc?

 

I have severe dizziness too that i hope will go away aswell. My list of symptoms is enormous, but these few things are the most bothersome. If they would just go away i wouldnt mind the others, really. I dont have akathisia, but i have inner restlessness that comes and goes.

 

 

 

 

Dear Unfoldingsky

 

 

I am interested in your story, as i am now 21 months free and still in severe hell. I have severe DR/DP, Memory problems are very severe, i feel confused and dizzy, i dont really konw whats happening around me if you know what i mean.

 

I c/t from 4 years paxil and when trying to reinstate a different drug, had a severe adverse reaction.

 

Im looking for hope. Is 21 months too early? No improvements. Really if the DR/DP would just improve i would be happy. I am worried and scared to death.

 

I am partly recovered.  I haven't put my story up because it was so traumatizing to revisit but I am in the process of trying to write it. 

 

But for those who are in a bad way right now, I managed to recover completely from severe akathisia and partly from memory loss so profound I forgot most of my memories of my own life (my problems were caused by multiple drugs, and withdrawals including a c/t, and several adverse reactions).  And many other problems as well.  A friend of mine also managed an astounding partial recovery after being drugged with almost every psych drug available, given for over a period of almost two decades, and all for a physical problem.  He reacted to pretty well all of those drugs too...His story in some respects is still more amazing than mine as at points he lost his memory so badly if I recall he didn't even know his own name or where he was...And that was a long fall for him as he was a literal genius with an incredible memory.

 

So do take heart, a lot more is possible than we may believe...

 

 

OliviaS,

 

Sorry you are still doing so badly that far out.  I had a very hard time for the first three years after a series of drug reactions and c/t, and yes had DP/DR for those years that was severe along with many other severe problems too (memory loss was really bad.)  I basically felt like I was out of my body for three years and felt like the world was not quite real.

 

I don't know if this is your situation but I also would have only about one or two windows a year, for some reason in the winter.  Initially after the first (mildish) drug reaction I had the usual windows and waves pattern (I took one dose of a drug that I had a mild reaction to, stopped it, then had some withdrawal) but as time wore on and I was put back on drugs and then taken off, the situation got much more complicated, eventually leading to the three year period with almost no windows, where it was honestly all I could do to just get through each day.

 

So things can turn around even if it has been a long time and even if it is severe.  I now no longer have DP/DR, I have back many memories of my past, I have better recall of recently formed memories, no akathisia to speak of, etc..

 

And also things could change for you even more quickly than they did me since I was put on more drugs than you and had issues with most of them.

 

Keep the faith things will turn around. 

 

Best wishes,

 

Unfolding Sky

 



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Posted 04 June 2014 - 02:52 PM

Thank you very much for this. I really needed the hope and encouragement. I have only experienced one window, that was more than a year ago. I am really really hoping and praying that the DR/DP will lessen and go away. II have it very severely and like you, my memories are mostly gone.

 

I am very happy to hear that you are doing much better and that the DR/DP went away. If i may ask, was there anything specific you did to aid in your recovery? Diet, meditation etc?

 

I have severe dizziness too that i hope will go away aswell. My list of symptoms is enormous, but these few things are the most bothersome. If they would just go away i wouldnt mind the others, really. I dont have akathisia, but i have inner restlessness that comes and goes.

 

 

What is DR?DP?


2005-2008 Effexor xr; 1/2008 Tapered 3 months, then quit.
7/2008-2009 Reinstated Effexor xr due to crying spells.
2009-3/2013 Switched to Pristiq 50 mg then 100 mg
3/2013 Switched to Lexapro 10mg. Cut down to 5 mg. CT for 2 weeks then reinstated for 6 weeks
8/2013-8/2014 Tapering Lexapro
11/2014 -8/2015: Developed severe insomnia, resumed using Ambien & Klonopin
12/2014-6/2015 Tried Ativan, Lunesta, Sonata, Trazadone, Seroquel, Rameron - Adverse Reactions
7/2015 Reinstated Lexapro at 2 mg; Quit Klonopin CT suddenly paradoxical)
Started Gabapentin 100-300 mg for 3 weeks. Developed severe lumbar jerking movements (myoclonus).Quit Gabapentin CT.
8/2015 Continuing Lexapro 2 mg. Baclofen 10mg-AM/20mg-PM - tapered off by 5/2016
1-7/2016 Lexapro 5 mg 
Intro page: http://survivinganti...rsened-by-meds/


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Posted 04 June 2014 - 03:23 PM

Withdrawal is so different for different people partly perhaps due to how they got off the drug the dose and how long they have been drugged... so may variables. Some could be well on there way to healing after 6 months while others are just crawling out of bed.  There are too many variables for this to be truly productive reading through the countless threads and finding a situation that sounds like your may seem a good idea but even then you will find our own body make up or other not yet understood variables through theories out the window. I know because I have been reading posts for 6+ years... and that is what I have found.  We are all flying by the seat of our pants here and all hoping. That is about the best I can tell you. 

 

This is true, what you're saying. However, reading through dozens of profiles over the years, has informed me about what can happen during withdrawal. This has been important in recognizing the symptoms, physical or mental, as being DUE TO withdrawal, as opposed to, say, a permanent change in my personality, for whatever ungodly reason.   Knowing that what I am experiencing, may or may not be a symptom of withdrawal tells me that "it too shall pass".  Reading about Olivia's experience, makes me feel grateful that my experience hasn't been that bad. But it also makes me feel scared about what will happen when my taper is over.  I am optimistic however.  I'm grateful that despite the brain fog, lethargy, and fatigue, my memory has remained impeccable.   One thing we all are doing on here, is exercising our brains and our memories by reading and learning so much scientific information and employing critical thinking. 

 

I had a really hard time when I got to 1 mg of my medication.  It was a very long and nasty wave.  I came very close to trying yet another antidepressant.   Y'all talked me out of it.   And then, a window opened up.  And I was like, "Oooh, THAT's what they're talking about."  It seemed like I had to cross a very long threshold.  In the past however, I would think that "ok, i'm healed now. It's over."   But now that I know about the up and down nature of withdrawal, I am aware that I may have another wave.  I am also aware that emotionally stressful situations can bring on a wave, and that I have to do my best to avoid them.

 

I guess this kind of living forces you to live "in the now", appreciate more and take advantage of your good days. And take better care of yourself on your bad days.    There's gotta be a reason why so many of us are on this long and difficult journey.  I just wish that people could learn from each other's experience.  I wish that my experience could have stopped others from taking these drugs.  But, so far it hasn't.  In today's fast moving society, people prefer to pop a quick pill, rather than cultivate the skills necessary to manage whatever mental dis-ease ails them.

 

Of course, as I have learned from this site, many of you wound up on psychotropic drugs for NON-Mental reasons.  And that's just  unfortunate that psychotropic drugs have so many off-label uses, and doctors prescribe them without letting patients know what may happen to them.  I have made it my policy NOT TO fill any drug without thoroughly researching it, and checking if it can exacerbate my other health issues.

 

Anyway, this topic is about hope, without which we can't live without. So I'm happy to report for the moment that I have gone down to .5 mg/ml in my taper, and am feeling reasonably good.  Better than I have felt when I was in the 1.5 - .7 range.  We'll see what happens next.  One thing for sure, I just have to keep going, and believe that there's light at the end of the tunnel.  

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2005-2008 Effexor xr; 1/2008 Tapered 3 months, then quit.
7/2008-2009 Reinstated Effexor xr due to crying spells.
2009-3/2013 Switched to Pristiq 50 mg then 100 mg
3/2013 Switched to Lexapro 10mg. Cut down to 5 mg. CT for 2 weeks then reinstated for 6 weeks
8/2013-8/2014 Tapering Lexapro
11/2014 -8/2015: Developed severe insomnia, resumed using Ambien & Klonopin
12/2014-6/2015 Tried Ativan, Lunesta, Sonata, Trazadone, Seroquel, Rameron - Adverse Reactions
7/2015 Reinstated Lexapro at 2 mg; Quit Klonopin CT suddenly paradoxical)
Started Gabapentin 100-300 mg for 3 weeks. Developed severe lumbar jerking movements (myoclonus).Quit Gabapentin CT.
8/2015 Continuing Lexapro 2 mg. Baclofen 10mg-AM/20mg-PM - tapered off by 5/2016
1-7/2016 Lexapro 5 mg 
Intro page: http://survivinganti...rsened-by-meds/


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Posted 04 June 2014 - 03:34 PM

Memory problems are very severe, i feel confused and dizzy, i dont really konw whats happening around me if you know what i mean.

 Olivia, have you heard of a supplement called Phosphotidyl serine?  It is recommended for memory and brain fog.  I found out about it by reading a review posted by a woman on vitacost.com where I was buying vitamins.  In turn, she said that she found out about it from Dr. Amen (who frequently appears on PBS (public television).

Here's some info:

Phosphatidyl choline – Helps increase levels of the neurotransmitter

acetylcholine, which is associated with brain speed and short-term memory function.
Appears to prevent further deterioration of mental function in Alzheimer’s patients.
 

Phosphatidyl serine (PS) – Occuring naturally in the brain, PS
supplement may reverse about 12 years of memory decline. PS is intricately
involved in the strength, permeability, elasticity and maintenance of the
structural integrity of all cell membranes, especially those of the brain.

 

Ginkgo biloba – May lessen age-associated memory impairment
(AAMI) and improve some mental functions in those afflicted with AAMI.

 

from: http://www.newyou.co...es/memory-lift/


2005-2008 Effexor xr; 1/2008 Tapered 3 months, then quit.
7/2008-2009 Reinstated Effexor xr due to crying spells.
2009-3/2013 Switched to Pristiq 50 mg then 100 mg
3/2013 Switched to Lexapro 10mg. Cut down to 5 mg. CT for 2 weeks then reinstated for 6 weeks
8/2013-8/2014 Tapering Lexapro
11/2014 -8/2015: Developed severe insomnia, resumed using Ambien & Klonopin
12/2014-6/2015 Tried Ativan, Lunesta, Sonata, Trazadone, Seroquel, Rameron - Adverse Reactions
7/2015 Reinstated Lexapro at 2 mg; Quit Klonopin CT suddenly paradoxical)
Started Gabapentin 100-300 mg for 3 weeks. Developed severe lumbar jerking movements (myoclonus).Quit Gabapentin CT.
8/2015 Continuing Lexapro 2 mg. Baclofen 10mg-AM/20mg-PM - tapered off by 5/2016
1-7/2016 Lexapro 5 mg 
Intro page: http://survivinganti...rsened-by-meds/


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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:17 PM

Derealization and depersonalization

 

 

 

Thank you very much for this. I really needed the hope and encouragement. I have only experienced one window, that was more than a year ago. I am really really hoping and praying that the DR/DP will lessen and go away. II have it very severely and like you, my memories are mostly gone.

 

I am very happy to hear that you are doing much better and that the DR/DP went away. If i may ask, was there anything specific you did to aid in your recovery? Diet, meditation etc?

 

I have severe dizziness too that i hope will go away aswell. My list of symptoms is enormous, but these few things are the most bothersome. If they would just go away i wouldnt mind the others, really. I dont have akathisia, but i have inner restlessness that comes and goes.

 

 

What is DR?DP?

 



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Posted 29 June 2014 - 12:33 PM

Hello

 

I am partially recovering and it is not an easy rd but worth it

 

I also attend al anon and acoa. It has helped me with all aspects of recovery - which includes the reasons I was medicated for but never knew why I had horrid depression.

 

Now I know. I use the steps as an assist during  mindful, watchful taper. I am now facing my issues a bit at  time by working a 12 step prog and being gentle w myself. I also accept rolling through the difficult days and accepting them as they come rather than reacting to them.

 

Best wishes


I'M A WEANER!  :D 
atavan PRN ,Paxil approx 20 yrs ago for major depression
Switched to Klonopin PRN through to current
Paxil wore out
Changed to Effexor 
Depakote added
enormous weight gain - flat affect - led to depression - dropped depakote
Dropped Effexor, changed to Paxil 
PDoc added mixed salts amphetamines for ADHD - took for 2 yrs - was ok at first but had to cut as symptoms too intense -  then the crash was too much. STOPPED
Vyvanse started in 2013 (APRIL) - more smooth than IR amphetamine tabs---Have not used vyvanse daily in full amt since May 2013 

Paxil CT withdrawal 10/2012  :wacko:  Klonopin CT WD

Switched Klonopin to Xanax prn  - too strong

WD CT from XANAX after taking for a while - it was awful but can be done if you hold on!

Back to Klonopin PRN - working very hard to avoid taking it at all. 

Effexor 37.5 started 02/2013, 75mg by 03/2013, 150mg by 05/2012 (approx)  :blush:

Effexor 150mg 3/10/2014 Microtaper -3beads  :unsure:

3/11/2014-4beads ,3/12/14 - 5, 3/13/14 -6, 3/15/14 - 7, 3/18 - 8, 3/22 - 10, 3/24 - 12, 4/6 - 13, 4/7 - 14, 4/11 - 16 - on 4/19 ran out of brand took generic. Bad move. Back on brand on 4/20 and updosed 2 beads. 5/1 - 15, 5/6 - 16, 5/9 -17, 55/10 -17, 5/15 -18, 5/21 -19, 5/24 -20, 6/3 - 21, 6/6 -23, 6/13 -24,6/19- 25, 6/21 -26, 6/25 -27

6/28 -28, 6/29 -30, 7/3 -34, 7/8 -35, 7/17 -36, 7/30 -41,7/31 -42, 8/2 -43, 8/3 -44, 8/5 -45, 8/14 -48, 8/26-50, 9/24 -53, 10/24 -55, 12/1 -57, (lost the tally sheet, thus taper info for some of it), 4/19-63, 4/26-64, 4/30-65 Switched to wt reduction - now @ -.068, 7/14 -.070, August 2015 -.074, between Sept & October 10 -.077, Nov. -.078(feeling great), -.090 as of 1/10/16, down to  -.101 since January 2016 (it is now 6/24/16), -.105 as of 8/13/16
 
 

Ladies, please don't underestimate the possibility of perimenopause. The symptoms can be similar to, may intensify & in some cases mimic protracted w/d from ssri's & benzo's. 

 


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Posted 03 July 2014 - 06:47 PM

 

Memory problems are very severe, i feel confused and dizzy, i dont really konw whats happening around me if you know what i mean.

 Olivia, have you heard of a supplement called Phosphotidyl serine?  It is recommended for memory and brain fog.  I found out about it by reading a review posted by a woman on vitacost.com where I was buying vitamins.  In turn, she said that she found out about it from Dr. Amen (who frequently appears on PBS (public television).

Here's some info:

Phosphatidyl choline – Helps increase levels of the neurotransmitter

acetylcholine, which is associated with brain speed and short-term memory function.
Appears to prevent further deterioration of mental function in Alzheimer’s patients.
 

Phosphatidyl serine (PS) – Occuring naturally in the brain, PS
supplement may reverse about 12 years of memory decline. PS is intricately
involved in the strength, permeability, elasticity and maintenance of the
structural integrity of all cell membranes, especially those of the brain.

 

Ginkgo biloba – May lessen age-associated memory impairment
(AAMI) and improve some mental functions in those afflicted with AAMI.

 

from: http://www.newyou.co...es/memory-lift/

 

I think Alto tried that one if you search on here you may see her take on it. 

peace


WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 06:13 PM

An update - I am now at -48 beads of effexor. 6 wks later than my post up there ^

 

Was able to slow down the taper as I finally was accepted for coverage in hardship. 

 

I am doing ok. Some days are tough. But that is more than likely due to my living situation etc. 

 

No severe brain zaps. When on paxil I was suicidal more often than not. Started happening with effexor. I can attest that it is very different now. I do not think about suicide near as much as when I was on full strength. Sad to actually read that part in print. If nothing else, it serves as a warning re what this med did to me.

 

Thinking is pretty clear though I do not have the sensation of - - increased blood pressure to my head. Cannot describe. Some of my memory is foggy.

 

I am optimistic and hope all of you are still holding down the fort


I'M A WEANER!  :D 
atavan PRN ,Paxil approx 20 yrs ago for major depression
Switched to Klonopin PRN through to current
Paxil wore out
Changed to Effexor 
Depakote added
enormous weight gain - flat affect - led to depression - dropped depakote
Dropped Effexor, changed to Paxil 
PDoc added mixed salts amphetamines for ADHD - took for 2 yrs - was ok at first but had to cut as symptoms too intense -  then the crash was too much. STOPPED
Vyvanse started in 2013 (APRIL) - more smooth than IR amphetamine tabs---Have not used vyvanse daily in full amt since May 2013 

Paxil CT withdrawal 10/2012  :wacko:  Klonopin CT WD

Switched Klonopin to Xanax prn  - too strong

WD CT from XANAX after taking for a while - it was awful but can be done if you hold on!

Back to Klonopin PRN - working very hard to avoid taking it at all. 

Effexor 37.5 started 02/2013, 75mg by 03/2013, 150mg by 05/2012 (approx)  :blush:

Effexor 150mg 3/10/2014 Microtaper -3beads  :unsure:

3/11/2014-4beads ,3/12/14 - 5, 3/13/14 -6, 3/15/14 - 7, 3/18 - 8, 3/22 - 10, 3/24 - 12, 4/6 - 13, 4/7 - 14, 4/11 - 16 - on 4/19 ran out of brand took generic. Bad move. Back on brand on 4/20 and updosed 2 beads. 5/1 - 15, 5/6 - 16, 5/9 -17, 55/10 -17, 5/15 -18, 5/21 -19, 5/24 -20, 6/3 - 21, 6/6 -23, 6/13 -24,6/19- 25, 6/21 -26, 6/25 -27

6/28 -28, 6/29 -30, 7/3 -34, 7/8 -35, 7/17 -36, 7/30 -41,7/31 -42, 8/2 -43, 8/3 -44, 8/5 -45, 8/14 -48, 8/26-50, 9/24 -53, 10/24 -55, 12/1 -57, (lost the tally sheet, thus taper info for some of it), 4/19-63, 4/26-64, 4/30-65 Switched to wt reduction - now @ -.068, 7/14 -.070, August 2015 -.074, between Sept & October 10 -.077, Nov. -.078(feeling great), -.090 as of 1/10/16, down to  -.101 since January 2016 (it is now 6/24/16), -.105 as of 8/13/16
 
 

Ladies, please don't underestimate the possibility of perimenopause. The symptoms can be similar to, may intensify & in some cases mimic protracted w/d from ssri's & benzo's. 

 


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Posted 24 June 2016 - 05:51 AM

Still going well - love to all


I'M A WEANER!  :D 
atavan PRN ,Paxil approx 20 yrs ago for major depression
Switched to Klonopin PRN through to current
Paxil wore out
Changed to Effexor 
Depakote added
enormous weight gain - flat affect - led to depression - dropped depakote
Dropped Effexor, changed to Paxil 
PDoc added mixed salts amphetamines for ADHD - took for 2 yrs - was ok at first but had to cut as symptoms too intense -  then the crash was too much. STOPPED
Vyvanse started in 2013 (APRIL) - more smooth than IR amphetamine tabs---Have not used vyvanse daily in full amt since May 2013 

Paxil CT withdrawal 10/2012  :wacko:  Klonopin CT WD

Switched Klonopin to Xanax prn  - too strong

WD CT from XANAX after taking for a while - it was awful but can be done if you hold on!

Back to Klonopin PRN - working very hard to avoid taking it at all. 

Effexor 37.5 started 02/2013, 75mg by 03/2013, 150mg by 05/2012 (approx)  :blush:

Effexor 150mg 3/10/2014 Microtaper -3beads  :unsure:

3/11/2014-4beads ,3/12/14 - 5, 3/13/14 -6, 3/15/14 - 7, 3/18 - 8, 3/22 - 10, 3/24 - 12, 4/6 - 13, 4/7 - 14, 4/11 - 16 - on 4/19 ran out of brand took generic. Bad move. Back on brand on 4/20 and updosed 2 beads. 5/1 - 15, 5/6 - 16, 5/9 -17, 55/10 -17, 5/15 -18, 5/21 -19, 5/24 -20, 6/3 - 21, 6/6 -23, 6/13 -24,6/19- 25, 6/21 -26, 6/25 -27

6/28 -28, 6/29 -30, 7/3 -34, 7/8 -35, 7/17 -36, 7/30 -41,7/31 -42, 8/2 -43, 8/3 -44, 8/5 -45, 8/14 -48, 8/26-50, 9/24 -53, 10/24 -55, 12/1 -57, (lost the tally sheet, thus taper info for some of it), 4/19-63, 4/26-64, 4/30-65 Switched to wt reduction - now @ -.068, 7/14 -.070, August 2015 -.074, between Sept & October 10 -.077, Nov. -.078(feeling great), -.090 as of 1/10/16, down to  -.101 since January 2016 (it is now 6/24/16), -.105 as of 8/13/16
 
 

Ladies, please don't underestimate the possibility of perimenopause. The symptoms can be similar to, may intensify & in some cases mimic protracted w/d from ssri's & benzo's. 

 


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Posted 30 July 2016 - 06:46 AM

I'm also partially recovered - 65 to 70% if I had to quantify it. I am 19.5 months off ssri, snri and a tricyclic antidepressant I'd taken for over a decade. I cold turkeyed them all at once, simultaneously. Probably not the best action to take but I did. The first year was met with psychotic depression, Dr/dp , extreme muscle rigidity, hypersensitivity to noise/light, severe paranoid ideations, hallucinations, mainly aural. Couldn't work, could barely feed myself. I became an illiterate mute.

Today I'm back at work, able to read and digest nyt articles to legal material for work. My symptoms have broken up to where I am now experiencing moderate waves of depression that are shorter in length and lighter in severity at each successive session and my cognitive distortions are likewise receding into the background and becoming tolerably dissipating noise .

I hope we all heal as pain-free as possible.

Peace and love.
off cold turkey:zoloft, trileptal, stratteracurrently on:<p>latuda .05 milligrams latuda (to stabilize cns) from 20 mgs 4 months ago.

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Posted 30 July 2016 - 07:31 AM

Encouraging Gemini and good for you!! :)

Klomipramin 25-150mg 2002-2013

Sertralin - 6 weeks in 2009

Mirtazapin - 7 weeks 2013

Cipralex -  20mg Nov 2013 - Nov 2014

 

Tapered Cipralex from Nov 2014-Mars 8 2015

 

Thyroid - Low metabolism

 

Levaxin - 2010 - 25ug - 175ug

Liothyronin(T3) -  10ug - Nov 2014 - Nov 2015

 


#30 elbee

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Posted 01 August 2016 - 12:36 PM

These hopeful threads have been really important for me. Thanks to those of you who don't "disappear" completely into your recovered or partially recovered life, and come back at least periodically to share and update us on your stories of courage. To me, on really rough days like today, it feels like people throwing out lifelines to me. I appreciate it so much, and hope that I will be in a position to do the same for others someday. Much gratitude!

1990 (age 20, in college) - First major panic attacks (diagnosis, PD, GAD, Depression). Prescribed 100 mg sertraline, 2.5 mg lorazepam. Tried to reduce meds several times but essentially took these meds for about 25 years.
Summer of 2014 - Quit drinking alcohol and 3.5 month taper off all meds under doc supervision. October 2014 - Return of severe panic attacks, with 8-month "SSRI/Benzo chase" to try and stabilize. June 2015 - Found a drug "reinstatement" (more drugs than I had ever been on) that stopped the panic attacks, but was left with severe anxiety, depression, and numerous side effects: 150 mg sertraline (Z=Zoloft), 15 mg mirtazapine (R=Remeron), 2 mg clonazepam (K=Klonopin)

-- Begin new taper -- 12/11/16: Z=100 mg, R=6 mg, K=1 mg, 11/13/16: Z=100 mg, R=7.5 mg, K=1 mg, Z=100 mg, R=7.5 mg, K=1.5 mg, 9/1/16: Z=112.5 mg, R=7.5 mg, K=1.5 mg, 7/27/16: Z=125 mg, R=7.5 mg, K=1.5 mg, 5/1/16: Z=135 mg, R=7.5 mg, K=1.5 mg, 4/10/16: Z=150 mg, R=7.5 mg, K=1.5 mg, 3/1/16: Z=150 mg, R=7.5 mg, K=2.0 mg

My introduction thread.


#31 reachingforthestars

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Posted 02 October 2016 - 10:52 PM

There are many videos in the site I linked about getting better after quitting psych meds. Especially this video below is powerful.

This old lady has survived after 60 times of electroshock therapy and massive drugging. She has lost many memories due to electroshocks but has gotten the ability to enjoy life back. She says she loves her children and her grandchildren and she loves life. :) 

 

http://igotbetter.org/videos/lwilson


Citalopram 40mg from 2003-2015

Jan 2015 started tapering first dropped to 35mgFeb 30mg, March 25mgApril 20mg, May 17,5mg, June 15mgJuly 12,5mg, Aug 12,5mg,

Sep 0mg for 5 days because of stomac flu and after I raised to 7,5mg. All the symptoms of acute WD shaking, diarrhea, vomiting, barely could walk ect. Still didn't realize that it wasn't only stomac flu but I was also going through WD.

Oct 2,5mg and crashed again badly and quickly raised to 4mg. It was then when I knew my symptoms were due to WD.

Then in November after a month holding on 4mg raised to 5mg due to muscle weakness and had a VERY BAD reaction to reinstatement: akathisia(lasted for one or two weeks), insomnia, anhedonia... Drop quicly back to 4mg, Dec 3mg

Jan 2016 2,6mg( in the middle of Jan after I had been on 2,6mg for a week I tried to updose to 2,8mg and immediately had bad reaction to it: akathisia for a day, andehonia got worse. The next day dropped back to 2,6mg), Feb 2,4mg( a new symptom PGAD lasted 24/7 for 2 months after that on and off), March 2,4mg, April 2,3mg, May 2,2mg, June 2,1mg, July 2,0mg( Pgad almost nonexisting, sleeping pretty good, still some anhedonia but there has been a lot of gradual progress), Aug 1,97mg-1,89mg, Sep 1,88mg-1,49mg, Oct 1,48mg- 1,70mg,

Nov 0,65mg- current dose 0,5mg

 


#32 nz11

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Posted 03 October 2016 - 12:17 AM

I'm also partially recovered - 65 to 70% if I had to quantify it. I am 19.5 months off ssri, snri and a tricyclic antidepressant I'd taken for over a decade. I cold turkeyed them all at once, simultaneously. Probably not the best action to take but I did. The first year was met with psychotic depression, Dr/dp , extreme muscle rigidity, hypersensitivity to noise/light, severe paranoid ideations, hallucinations, mainly aural. Couldn't work, could barely feed myself. I became an illiterate mute.

Today I'm back at work, able to read and digest nyt articles to legal material for work. My symptoms have broken up to where I am now experiencing moderate waves of depression that are shorter in length and lighter in severity at each successive session and my cognitive distortions are likewise receding into the background and becoming tolerably dissipating noise .

I hope we all heal as pain-free as possible.

Peace and love.

Gemini,

Can you confirm if you are still taking latuda .


2000 amitryptaline, nortriptaline venlafaxine clonazepam for  arm pain from keyboard use, told I had a chemical imbalance it would fix my arm was just a matter of finding the right med for me not informed of the nature of these drugs assured safe and not addictive, CT off Effexor after being told to double the dose on reporting adverse effects...later ..uncharacteristic psych panic tearful presented to doctor to get answers. Given paroxetine no questions asked 'safe and not addictive' next please.2001-2010 paroxetine (paxil) 2 failed attempts to quit, a learned helplessness set in. Feb 10 - Sept 10,  8 month clueless taper, hell. Doc said I had underlying depression .. I said that's not right' then found online support group and the truth!...overcome with inconceivable humiliation and outrage. 28 Sept 10 drug free ...  daily psych and emotional torture beginning in the waking hours of the morning receding somewhat in the evening only to start up again the next day. 28 Sept 12 (24 months) Stabilizing  (What an indescribable unimaginable non-functional nightmare). sleep issues start up at 3 yrs  waking daily at 2am -4.30am)28 Sept 15 (5yrs drug free), cf, cmw, insomnia  horrifying pssd continues, still feel Rip van Winkle-ish, cognitively doing heaps better. 28 Sept 16 after 6 yrs start working again on a casual basis.

 

"It is unsafe for people who suffer from something that could be treated with an ssri to consult a psychiatrist." Gotzshe 2015. [ I think Gotzsche could have easily meant to say 'to consult anyone with prescribing privileges'].

 

“Paroxetine is not safe, it is not effective and it meets every known definition of addictive.” McLaren, N, (2016) 'Psychiatry as bullsh*t’ p55..."Psychiatry is stuffed full of 'deep nonsense' better known as bullsh*t." McLaren 2016

 

"Within the first week of when you go on an antidepressant you may have a sexual dysfunction, it can go on forever, often only appearing when you go off the drug ...its extraordinarily common" Healy 2015

 

See  my intro post #451 for the xanax back story and for a CV -GSKs.  Come on guys get taperwise see a TaperMe Schedule

 For a staggeringly shocking 'prozac back story' see the truth post #523

 

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#33 AliG

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Posted 03 October 2016 - 01:58 AM

Reachingforthestars.   Thank you for the video above. It is quite powerful in it's own way. What struck me the most was that she was loving life despite her drugging / multiple diagnoses and even though there were " holes" in her memory, she felt lucky to be alive. It says a lot for the human spirit and I particularly loved it when she talked about the color coming back into her life again. It's definitely a story of hope and survival against all odds.

 

Additionally, I feel like I am a partial recovery story. I have been feeling relatively symptom free after 2 yrs 4 months C/T . I was on and off antidepressants for close to 20 years. I had many cold turkeys and drug changes during that time. Without knowing what was happening I always went back on the A/D's with the mistaken belief that it was my " original condition" returning. Obviously, this was the story spun by the doctors and I believed them. I previously thought I had to be on the medication for the rest of my life.

 

After my last C/T and  finding this site, I stuck it out through the withdrawal and I am now starting to experience life on the other side. A drug free life. 

It is starting to feel great . :)

In time, I'm hoping to write a success story .

 

Don't ever give up hope. Healing happens.


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#34 Hibari

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Posted 03 October 2016 - 06:15 PM

You are a success and inspiration to me Ali!


September 2013-April 2014: After the death of my mom in July 2012.-became very depressed in September of 2013. Given a series of antidepressants very quickly from about 4 different psychiatrists in a 4 month period. Each one was from 1 day to 10 days at the most. My body could not handle it-I had Zoloft 4 days, Lexapro-1 day, Nortriptyline-10 days, Liquid Prozac, 1 week, Cymbalta 1 week.

December 2013-September 2014: Put on Xanax after a reaction to the Lexapro, averaging .50-1mg per day. Switched to Clonazepam-midway averaging about 0.25-0.50 daily.

June 2014: Jan/Feb 2015: Put on 7.5 Remeron titrate up to 41.25mgs 

September 2014-July 2015: Put on 25mgs of Lamictal titrate up to 200mgs daily. Also stopped the Clonzepam- never felt the wd I had experienced when I tried to stop it before (knowing nothing about withdrawal) because the Lamictal calmed me down.

 

Currently: Tapering both medications together using micro cuts. Started tapering Remeron in January 2015,  Started tapering Lamictal July 2015 Main wd symptoms-sweating, nausea, headaches, deep crying, anxiety. 12/21 Remeron 1.6 Lamictal 22.50 mgs 1/19/17 Remeron 1.2mgs, Lamictal 22.50mg 2/12/17 Remeron 1.2 Lamictal 21.25 mgs.

 

Additional Support: Acupuncture with Reflexology, Alanon, L-Theanine for anxiety as needed, Estradial patch 0.025, Bio-indentical Progesterone cream 150-200  Armour Thyroid 90mgs.


#35 AliG

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Posted 05 October 2016 - 05:09 PM

Thank you Hibari.  :)  I think you have done exceptionally well yourself . I'm sure your patience will pay off in time.


Many SSRI's &SSNRI's over 20 years . Zoloft - 7 years .  Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and many more - on and off . No tapering. Cold turkey -  Valdoxan - end of May 2014

 

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 04:22 AM

AliG

 

I am so happy for you... You re an inspiration for the perseverance. Hope the good times ahead of you will pay off milion times for the bad time which is already behind you. I will pray for your happiness from now on. May God bless you with happy moments now that you seem to have already pass the most important test of your life.

 

GOOD LUCK and WAITING FOR YOUR SUCCESS STORY.


2015 -  2016 Xanax only rescue doses of 0.125 mg 1-2 times per month
 March 2016 0.125Mg * 2 Xanax for 10 days.

20 March 2016 0.25 Mg * 2 Xanax for one week. 1 April 2016 Tranxene 5 mg and Fevarin but bad reaction for 5 days.4 April 2016 25 Mg Amitryptiline + 6 MG bromazepam at night

Started tapering Bromazepam 6 days later reached up to 3 MG in 10 days and withdrawal. Pdoc asked to go 6 MG again.

10 of May started Remeron 15 MG and started tapering Bromazepam again.

SINCE 09/06/2016 BENZO FREE - Started Tapering Remeron 04/07/2016

 

04/Jul/16 12.8 Mg, 11/Aug/16 12 Mg, 20/Aug/16 11Mg, 3/Sept/16 10Mg, 11/Sept/16 9 Mg, 30/Sept/16 8.1 Mg, 14/Oct/16 7.25 Mg, 17/Nov/16 6.7, 23/Nov/16 6.5, 2/Dec/16 6.25, 9/Dec/16 6Mg,

25/Dec/16 5.7Mg, 4/Jan/17 5.4Mg, 20/Jan/17 5.2Mg, 07/Feb/17 5 Mg, 15/Feb/17 4.8Mg,