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Vision symptoms: floaters, snow, blurred or dimmed vision etc

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I am at month 15 off effexor and a new symptom lately is a 'heat wave' effect right where I am looking for a second or two. Went to opth. and he said it is a type of floater due to aging.  I do wonder if it could not be WD related. I am now taking lutein and xianthenine or whatever tabs in hopes it will prevent worsening, even though doc said vitamins won't help.  Does any one have floaters like this? Or only the dark spot types?

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So sorry you're having this problem.  Don't have much to add, but I feel for you.  I developed terrible floaters as a kid, as I too am severely nearsighted (-7.50 DS OU). I'm sure it's been explained to you that the more nearsighted we are, the more at risk we are for floaters, and that you actually learn to notice the floaters less as time passes.  Just to give you some patience with the doctors, the only solution/cure for floaters is a vitrectomy, which carries a significant risk for permanent vision loss is both eyes.  No one would want to go blind trying to cure floaters, and that's why the procedure is never even mentioned.  It would be medical malpractice for an eye doctor to perform a double vitrectomy on you.  That's why they stress time for the symptoms to ease.  After over 20 years of developing awful floaters myself, I hardly even notice them anymore.  It was a gradual process to get here, but most of the "getting used to" the floaters took place within the first few years.  It's like not noticing your nose in your vision all day long.  You do in fact see your nose no matter what you're looking at every minute of every day, but our brains have learned to tune it out as useless information.  That's exactly what happens in getting used to floaters.  They never really go away; you just don't notice them anymore.  Really.  I assure you.  Hope this helps you understand a bit better. 

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I think I might have something other than floaters. I'm noticing blurry vision when I refocus my eyes from looking down to looking up across the room, like there is a delay in their ability to focus.  I think it is part of all the neurological stuff going on in my body/brain.

 

I have a few dark spot type floaters that I've had for years. This blurry vision is something new and is not like a floater that you'd see near or next to where you are looking. It impacts my vision right where I am looking. I think the doctor may have misdiagnosed me.  They are always in such a rush and don't seem to take time to ask questions about the specific symptoms  to figure out from the all the evidence what is wrong. They just do a test or lab test and run with that. What the patient tries to describe is mostly ignored.

 

I also get twitches in the muscles below the eye (as well as other places on and inside my body). Perhaps the focusing muscles are twitching and not focusing right at times.

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It does sound like you need a thorough eye exam with a compassionate, listening doctor. Sounds like you have more than one thing going on.  I myself wouldn't rule out the possibility of AD WD contributing to your symptoms.  The other thing they have in common is fatigue.  Both focusing and eye twitches become worse with fatigue- and with caffeine too for that matter.  Good luck to you in finding relief for your symptoms.  Blessings, Ellen

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This sounds strange I know ,but did anyone suffer with huge pupils when they made a drop in seroxat? And also my scalp is so sensitive to touch ,horrid.... I just need some reassurance that this we'd can effect pupils.

Tanya.

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I started expirencing visual symptoms(visual snow,palinopsia) while back after I tapered off paxil for the first time.Then a few months after the visual symptoms appeared I started taking paxil again, and the visual symptoms improved.Now at a time when I am tapering paxil for the second time the visual symptoms seem to get worse.

 

Do you think that this happens because of a reduction in dosage or because of tapering too fast ?

 

Also has anyone noticed similar symptoms to these ?

Are they persistent or transitory ?

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Hi arcticmonkey,

Visual symptoms such as these are fairly common in antidepressant withdrawal, it could be a sign that you are tapering too fast.  Please would you start a topic for yourself in introductions and updates, then we can get to know you and provide more help with tapering.

 

Here is a link to a thread about eye problems in withdrawal:

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/514-eye-problems-and-withdrawal-syndrome/?hl=visual#entry5235

 

Petu.

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I have these symptoms really bad... I hope it  gets better for you. Definitely taper slowly. I think for most it gets better but it takes years for some.

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After being on Trazadone and Lexapro for nearly 7 years, I started experienceing random moments of vertigo with some moments being extremely transitory and others being enough to sweep me off my feet literally. After 40 hours of appointments, tests and specialists, I was told that non one knew what my problem was (I made it all the way up to seeing an actual neurologist/surgeon and he drew a blank).

 

I finally got in to see my opthamologist and he listened to everything I had to say, flipped the pages in my chart and said "Yeah, that's normal."

 

What?

 

"Well, you're a long-term antideppressant user. We see this all the time in opthalmology. The only way to get past it is to dry out from the antidepressants for about 6 weeks and then go back on them if you still need them."

 

So, it might not be the taper so much as the saturation levels in your body.

 

Good luck.

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I was prescribed glasses last year after suddenly developing bad vision. The optician said there wasn't a particular problem with my eyes - did lots of tests, but it was obvious i wasnt able to focus properly. He asked about medication and did say that antidepressant's can have this side effect.

The glasses helped but gave me headaches.

 

This has got better since reducing my dosage. I haven't had to wear the glasses at all for about 3 months. I just get the drugged kind of vision which is different.

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Did anyone develope eye floaters in their withdrawling or while on SSRI?

 

I developed it around 6 months off ssri and still have it now 15 months off, they dont bother me and i see them most clear when i look up at a blue sky.

 

 

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I wonder if people experience any problem with vision. It seems that my eye sight got worse. Especially in one eye...is this wtthdrawal and does it go away?

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Has anybody experienced this problem? Does it go away? I have a type of hazy vision in my roght eye...a bit worried about it...

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Ikam, I noticed my vision isn't as good either. I see things much better further away. It's only a tiny bit difference though- maybe I am just getting older?

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Ikam, I noticed my vision isn't as good either. I see things much better further away. It's only a tiny bit difference though- maybe I am just getting older?

I have to wear reading glasses...this is what I consider as normal...

But this is new, it is a blurred vision in one eye only...

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Ikam, I noticed my vision isn't as good either. I see things much better further away. It's only a tiny bit difference though- maybe I am just getting older?

  

 

Ikam, I noticed my vision isn't as good either. I see things much better further away. It's only a tiny bit difference though- maybe I am just getting older?

I have to wear reading glasses...this is what I consider as normal...

But this is new, it is a blurred vision in one eye only...

 

I dont know if I should go to have my eyes tested or wait, asbit may pass as many WD symptoms...

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I have an intermittent vision problem in one eye too... it comes and goes, and switches eyes sometimes. Its blurry and feels like theres gunk in it. Then one day its normal. Thats not age related. Needing to hold things further away to see them...consistently... is age related after 40. Im 42 and have this happening...but the other thing is definately wd i think

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For a time in wd I had to have my glasses changed a lot too often... I ran out of money and could not afford to keep changing them I don't see as well since... once when I was still taking the Effexor my vision just went bad to a place I have never returned from I needed glasses ever since before effexor I did not need glasses... I have had weird eye issues all through wd... today my eyes get worse and worse.  Not the sudden drop in vision I had when on effexor but a gradual worsening. 

 

When on Effexor I thought I had some real big eye problem as I went from seeing find one day to not being able to see the numbers on the phone the next day... so off to the eye doctor i went and was told it was likely gradual but I noticed it all of a sudden... I did not buy that story then and I don't buy it now...but what to do about it... nothing I got my glasses and got one with it. I don't know how bad my eyes really are now but still I am needing new glasses faster then I can afford them or the testing. 

 

in playing games with a kid I call the pirate sally pete when the name was salty pete good for a laugh if your a kid I guess... 

 

I had on person who was on another board say Effexor cause some type of retinal problem he seen an opthamologist not a the guy who checked you for glasses but an actually eye doctor.  may be worth it for you I can't say.

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I am reading the RISK site.. now.. since I had those issue years ago I have had more issues and have wanted to have more testing... I have been to a few specialist an ophthalmologist  and asked to see a neuro ophthalmologist he said I would have to go thru the proper channels... so off to the neurologist who said it was not needed.

I had more troubles and at the time it was deemed impairative to see an ophthalmologist again... this time quickly... I was to go back to the one I had seen first but could not get in so was shipped to another town to see a different guy a very old man... who I swear was blind. Since it was deemed an emergency the last time I had troubles I was sent by my gp to a new eye doctor in the same building...ya I know racking up the bucks for the clinic she partly owns... but I have also lost touch with my own eye doctor who I prefer.. l know the last one I seen gobbled up the insurance money and they will only pay for a test every two years ...so he took the cash from the eye doc I like .. will be long before I can go again ... and that sucks. 

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Not that I will remember this when the time comes but think it is worth putting here the type of testing talked about at RISK it is likely what I need and can't seem to get.

 

"I was given an electroretinogram – ERG. This is a range of tests which examine electrical activity within the eye and optic nerve. It involves looking at flashing lights while wired up to a machine that records the results.

My results showed abnormal electrical activity within the retina and I was invited back for further tests. I listened in to the conversation. My consultants were excited. Although certain genetic conditions can apparently produce the findings they were seeing, my results are unusual and do not directly match any known eye condition.

Comment from the Ophthalmology Department

‘The pattern that AS shows is unusual. He has inner retinal dysfunction – from a change in either his bipolar cells or retinal Muller cells.

Retinal electrophysiology is not universally available. Where it is done, not all centres comply with international ISCEV (International Society for Clinical Electrophysiology of Vision) testing standards. This can make results difficult to compare between centres.

A minimum examination should involve an ISCEV standard electroretinogram (ERG) to test generalised rod, cone and inner retinal function, along with pattern or multifocal ERG to test macular function.

If these show similar abnormalities to AS, then we will suggest further, more advanced testing to isolate the problem. We know there is serotonin and dopamine input to these cells so the findings make some sense.

If the screening ERG is abnormal but different, it would be good to get further testing on some subjects to Newcastle for data consistency or to liaise with the ophthalmology department.’

- See more at: http://wp.rxisk.org/keeping-an-eye-on-the-ball-visual-problems-on-ssris/#sthash.BvYz21y1.dpuf

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Btdt, thank you for your input. I have thought myself that this is related to meds. But it seems I do need new glasses, as I have been struggling...i am also required by law to wear distance glasses when driving...

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My eyesight used to be great, now it is terrible.  However, I am around the age when most people need reading glasses, so it is hard to tell how much of my problem is from withdrawal and how much is just down to age.  I suspect it is not completely age-related.  Also, a few years ago I suddenly developed loads of floaters in both eyes.  Again, this is something that is considered fairly "normal", but I tend to believe that in my case it is at least partly SSRI-related.

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paxil withdrawal has messed up my perfect vision in my left eye.. and slightly in my right eye.. according to the eye doc I have perfect vision yet i know i cant see perfectly.. it all started a few months after withdrawal started.. also im 23 so i KNOW its not due to age..

 

so yes.. paxil withdrawal can mess with your vision

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My eyesight used to be great, now it is terrible.  However, I am around the age when most people need reading glasses, so it is hard to tell how much of my problem is from withdrawal and how much is just down to age.  I suspect it is not completely age-related.  Also, a few years ago I suddenly developed loads of floaters in both eyes.  Again, this is something that is considered fairly "normal", but I tend to believe that in my case it is at least partly SSRI-related.

I also need reading glasses, but my eye sight got much worse in 1.5year...

I will have new glasses, as my eyes get so tired. It was difficult to drive yesterday...It is problem with focusing and straining my eyes...

I will have my glasses next week...

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YES. The vision issues are one of my worst and most pronounced/debilitating symptoms... Been off of Prozac for 15 days and think my vision is worsening (I am 25 years old). I've never had any prescription or vision problems before this. Can't drive at all, nor even read/watch tv comfortably. Help!

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HAS ANYBODY RECOVERED FROM VISION PROBLEMS AND DIZZINESS?  HAS NYBODY RECOVERED FROM THINGS LOOKING TOO SHARP AND TOO FAR AWAY?

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i had pretty superb vision and hearing until i took meds (like uppermost percentiles of functioning).  after a while on them, and i bet the antipsychotics in particular were a big culprit, my vision, hearing, and cognitive processing of both became impaired.  not fully impaired, but my distanced vision became markedly poorer, and i had to rely on other people to read or point out things that would have been clear before i was on meds.  it was dangerous to drive because roadsigns, especially while in a moving vehicle, were difficult to make out.  my short term vision also became compromised, and using a computer for school and work probably both facilitated and suffered from this degeneration.

 

my hearing has taken hits as well, with decreased frequency response, clarity, and perceptive abilities.  and the cogitative part...thats what got the MOST screwloosed---it got to the point where i could barely understand sentences and phrases as words with coherent meaning.  sound became a blur; even if the enunciation was recognizably a pattern of human speech, it simply held no meaning to me, or i had to sit and struggle and wait for things to catch up (if they would at all).  things like accents, rapidity, volume changes, and locational differences made speech impossible to make out a lot of the time.  it was quite embarrassing, worrisome, and downright prohibitive.

 

it was one symptom among the collection of scarier things that led me to finally tell all the psychiatrists to cram the meds up their least pleasure-associated sphincters despite strong medical recommendations.  but, to my amazement and relief, quitting the meds DID help!  these changes happened so gradually, over the course of 7 years, that i was not certain they were the problem.  i went to over 100 loud punk, metal, hardcore, and industrial shows across those 7 years, did most of my college courses online, had a lot of jobs with clipboards and computer screens, so i was worrying maybe i just messed my own body up---and, of course, doctors and adults would be sure to agree with even the unlikeliest of attribution to anything but medical treatment.  but tapering off the meds, and especially being 100% clean...everything changed.  i started hearing, seeing, and living again.

 

various phases of withdrawal set in immediately and still obscure my senses to alternating degrees on a daily basis, but i saw that, without a doubt, the medications were the issue, and quitting them does give my body a chance to recover.  im having some new, additional problems in withdrawal, like being unable to ascertain the locationality of sounds (and confusing/switching up directionality and such), and having a lot of eye pain, intense hallucinations, etc, so the news is not all good.  however, i think these will pass.  i feel it is very reasonable to say that i will recover my former abilities and levels of capacity, and some days i get a glimmer of how good things used to be.

 

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inclination to edit and add (peeked at that RxISK article): a variety of other visual phenomena also manifested on meds, and after.  a few more important ones to note are: periodic 'mists'/fogs that can fill a room or obscure things, the ability to perceive all physical matter (including air, light, and sound---sound as perceived by my ears) as 'energy waves' (like oscillating ocean waves, very specific in frequency and depth as related to what was being perceived---'matrix vision', if youd like), greatly reduced ability to recognize familiar faces, poorer night vision, and, only upon withdrawal, periodic sheets of red tinting covering my entire view.

 

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WiggleIt --- if you are suffering from dizziness AND increased sharpness of vision (at whatever depth) and/or tunnel vision type distortion, that suggests to me (in my NON-professional opinion!) a possible circulatory issue.  pressure within the eye can bow the focal lens and distort your perception, and dizziness and headaches are most often bloodflow issues, so both of those separate symptoms occurring at once makes me feel more strongly about it.  (separate, especially if the vision distortion was not focused, i mightve pitched an equilibrium problem instead, perhaps---inner ear problems with fluid pressure or sensitivity, or neurological registration of those senses, with or without spinal involvement.)  if there is no circulatory connection, it might be about your processing of the input.

 

both circulatory (which is neurologically regulated) and more directly neurological causes for your symptoms are documented side effects and withdrawal effects of psychotropics, and benzos are one of the most notable classes for vision disturbances (dont remember enough about TCA ADs right now...only took one or two).  your sig history shows youve been through a lot of the terrible brainy stuff associated with discontinuation syndrome...my opinion is that you will recover, but late 2014 is a pretty early quit date, comparatively, and you might be in for a rough ride.

 

other people here, especially in the relevant sections, have more experience and knowledge regarding your specific meds---i only took one benzo, and not long term.  im three years into my withdrawal, but my main issue is antipsychotics, by my own estimations.  i hope thats not a harrowing notion.

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Are floaters a symptom of AD withdrawal? I've been experiencing them for 7 weeks now. I reinstated 5 mg cipralex but the floaters don't go away. Should I get my eyes checked or is it withdrawal?

 

The doctor says it's not withdrawal and I cannot have a 7 week withdrawal and that he's fed up with me because he wants me to increase the dose of cipralex but I don't want to. What should I do?

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Hi, I dont think they are, I have had them my whole life. They are worse when the sky is overcast and I am driving on an open road. Havnt noticed them being any worse from wd. A lot of people say they have hyper sensitive scenses during wd, like sounds and smells. Maybe your vision is hyper sensitive and you are just noticing them more, or blurry vision from wd is making them more irritating. My Dr is awesome!He told me wd only lasts 2 weeks. I told him I felt mine was way longer, and we had a long talk, and he explained how Dr.s have been educated that its only two weeks, but he was not going to discount that my wd symptoms could be longer, and that he would help me through it!! I would go with your gut, and maybe talk to a different Dr. Especialy if he or she is not listening to you.

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