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joy2730: withdrawing from citalopram

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That is awesome Joy that you are feeling so well.

 

I'm so glad you got to see your granddaughter. 

 

We went home over the weekend to celebrate my fiancés dads 90th birthday and I'm a little nauseaous today and wheapy. I didn't get to see me granddaughter, they were up camping and fishing. I'm sure that caused it. But I got to see pictures, she was having so much fun! 

 

I's so hot (98) that you can't go outside, so at least I have my little chihuahua, the air conditioning and tv lol...

 

I'ts  really hard to leave home to come back to this place, where I have nothing.

 

I hope I didn't ruin your day, please accept my apology for venting.

 

Have a great day. :)

 

(((HUGS)))

 

Frogie xx

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17 hours ago, joy2730 said:

Another update feeling really well today fitness class and seeing Esme.  I feel fine - have a very slight dizziness now and then and my right arm was very itchy last night so I took an antihistamine for it.  I don't understand the relationship between antihistamines allergies and SSRIS but I suspect there is one.

 

I am doing swim and sauna and spin in the morning.  My mood is super and stable.

Joy:

 

That is awesome that you are feeling so well, and doing all the exercises!

 

I'm glad you got to see your granddaughter, what a treat. :)

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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Hi Frogie 

 

Yes all is good with me.  I do get tired though - I guess that maybe withdrawal too.

 

All the exercise is keeping me fit and giving me stamina and muscles but doesn't really help with weight.  I will have to get further down with citalopram before I see any changes there.

 

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5 minutes ago, joy2730 said:

Hi Frogie 

 

Yes all is good with me.  I do get tired though - I guess that maybe withdrawal too.

 

All the exercise is keeping me fit and giving me stamina and muscles but doesn't really help with weight.  I will have to get further down with citalopram before I see any changes there.

 

I'm not losing any weight, it all came back. Must have been water weight.

 

I'm on a much lower dose than you, I hope I lose weight. 

 

Glad you are doing well. :)

 

Take care,

Frogie

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 My Fitness Classes are indeed making me a bit too muscly now so I am going on to cardio next week instead, and reinstating my swimming and sauna more.  Some of my fat has turned to muscle but I don't want too much muscle.  I have met some great women and men at the fitness classes so will keep going but not as much as I have been doing.  It is,  to be honest, a great distraction because all the time I am in the classes I don't think about withdrawal at all, and it all makes me sleep like a log. 

 

I am beginning to think we need tired bodies to help us sleep better and that the style of modern day life lends itself more to tired minds and not tired bodies. 

 

My 18 mg continues to suit me and I don't have any withdrawal symptoms at all at present.

 

At the end of this week I will have been at 18 mg for about 4 weeks, so need to think of a plan.  On a 10% basis that would take me down to 16.2 mg but that would be far too much for me, so I think it will be 17.5 mg for me from Saturday coming.  It is so hard to balance the need for making process with doing it slowly enough to avoid symptoms.  I should perhaps wait a further 4 weeks at 18 mg to give anything untoward time to emerge instead of leaping to go down again so soon.  I guess a lot of people struggle with knowing what to do for the best.  I had never realised reactions could be delayed by months, that was a shock, I remember saying to my GP, 'Do you know there is a time delay when you reduced citalopram' and he said 'Yes' in a tone that meant 'Doesn't everyone know that?' but not nastily.  I saw him as an emergency the first time all the withdrawal symptoms had crept up on me, and I actually threw up in the surgery.  To be fair my local doctors are fully aware of withdrawal issues, but can come up with nothing more than 'reinstate and then do it slower'.

 

I am going to see Esme for an hour tonight before I head off for a few days work, I also have two 'hourly calls' to make, one tonight and one in the morning.  Esme has given so much meaning to my life, I do hope life/genes are kind to her.  There is a history of learning difficulties in my son in law's family and while we would love her no matter what, I do want her not to have too much stacked against her from the start. 

 

Take good care, especially Flowers and Frogie, writing my story and hearing bits of yours gives me great comfort.  We are all are in different parts of the world, but struggling with the same issues, which means we are not alone at all.

 

Joy

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Hi Joy:

 

I'm so happy you can continue your exercise. I have a Pilates machine and stationary bike sitting here staring at me, and I just can't seem to get the energy to do it.

 

You are doing so well with your withdrawl, I wouldn't want to "rock the boat" either if I were you.

 

I've had a bit of nausea the last couple of days. But it goes away fairly quickly. And very weepy. I think it's all related to everything that has happened since memorial weekend. Now that no one is around, I don't know what to do with myself lol...

 

I'm so glad you get to see your granddaughter tonight. Give her a big squeeze from me.

 

Even though you, Flowers and I are in different parts of the world, we are helping each other. You have no idea how much I appreciate the kind words. :)

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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Still doing well on 18 mg.  Staying put for another 4 weeks.  Decision made.  Feeling really well.

 

 

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Good stuff Joy.

I noticed that after a month on 18mg last time you needed to increase - not this time! Well done. It's so good to hear you're doing well. Another month on 18mg can only make you stronger.

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Still doing really well on 18 mg, my sleep has never been better and I am working away from home.

My weight is up a pound which is not paradoxical weight gain, but my fault.  I  have never learnt the skill of weight control.  I was always very underweight as I was so ill mentally and nothing helped me and then when I got meds that did appear to help I ballooned and blamed it all on the meds.  Now I am starting to realise that I was in fact making very poor choices about food and always was able to say 'Its the meds'.  The penny is starting to drop - slowly.  It is not so much an eating disorder as a lack of awareness/knowledge/education about food and exercise.  But it is a skill like any other and I will learn it and use it.

 

Perhaps someone else on this site has had a similar experience, if you think about it carefully and reflect, it is a way of moving forward in another area of life.

 

Our bodies are the 'shop window' of our mind/life style, as well as the carrier for our brain.  We need our bodies to be well to allow us to live well.  The brain/stomach link is being recognised and look at more and more, there is still a lot to learn though.  So as well as reducing citalopram I am learning such a lot about myself.  In a nutshell citalopram does not make my bad food choices, I do, but of course citalopram can influence that bad food choice.  Isn't it interesting.

 

So that is me good for the day, Frogie hope you have sorted out your blip with your fiancée and the tears are not too bad, Flowers have a great window and Genlady I will look at your cosmetics website.  I love cosmetics.

 

Joy

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Still doing well on 18 mg citalopram, it feels like a good place to be.  Mood is stable and no sign of DR/DP which I experienced last time at 18 mg.

 

I am feeling positive but so glad I have decided to hold another 4 weeks.  I have been a fool for rushing on and forward all the time previously.

 

Joy

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3 hours ago, joy2730 said:

Still doing well on 18 mg citalopram, it feels like a good place to be.  Mood is stable and no sign of DR/DP which I experienced last time at 18 mg.

 

I am feeling positive but so glad I have decided to hold another 4 weeks.  I have been a fool for rushing on and forward all the time previously.

 

Joy

Hi Joy:

 

I'm glad you are doing so well. And decided to hold.

 

Usually, I try and taper a little each month, but everything that's happened lately, I've decided to hold a little longer too.

 

I hope you had a nice weekend. :)

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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1 hour ago, Frogie said:

Hi Joy:

 

I'm glad you are doing so well. And decided to hold.

 

Usually, I try and taper a little each month, but everything that's happened lately, I've decided to hold a little longer too.

 

I hope you had a nice weekend. :)

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

Hi Frogie

 

There is nothing wrong in holding, some people think it is the most important part of tapering.  Sometimes when I move my head quickly I get a 'dragging' sensation as if something is going on in there, so I think there are adjustments still going on.

If when I started this journey 3 years ago I had taken it more slowly, I would be in a much better place now.

I am sorry you had an odd weekend, perhaps this next one will be far better.  You haven't mentioned weeping, perhaps the tears have eased off at present, in which case that is an improvement.  I am just beginning to realise that withdrawal can bring on 'false' emotions, tears and 'false' feelings, eg anger or anxiety. 

I understand you don't work, which I think is good when withdrawing from these meds.  I always run back to the full dose as I am afraid of missing work, which is worse now in as I am working in a self employed way.  On the other hand working is a distraction and I really enjoy my work.  I guess it is like anything else in life, there are two ways of looking at everything. 

Have you found it harder to taper as you have got down to lower dosages or just the same?

I sometimes feel as if my metabolism is speeding up a bit on this lower dose, I hope so as I have felt so lethargic on citalopram, I just want to sit and do nothing and have to force myself to do anything, so it is not good.  I feel embarrassed about my bottom. My bottom is a disgusting size and shape and I blame that on citalopram, but we will see in that if that is really the case or not.

I am spending tomorrow with my daughter and granddaughter, Esme, we are going shopping for paints for my new kitchen.  I work away such a lot my daughter and husband have had to choose the kitchen units and tiles, all budget quality, as I am not into posh houses and kitchens, I am the sort of person who lives in my mind more.  I trust their judgement and just need it to be clean and tidy.  Then we are going to see my mother and my aunty who live near each other.  Then in the evening I am babysitting for Esme, so we can have some time together.  It paints a happy family picture but both my mother and aunty have never understood my mental problems previously, so there are undercurrents there.

I have a new client to go to on Friday.

If I could carry on reducing and feel as well as this I will do well, but I guess every so often the symptoms will build up and become more apparent?

 

Your internet friend wishing you well.  Joy

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Hi Joy:

 

It never hurts to do a slow taper at all. I did a fast taper once and regreted it for a long time. I started over, where if I would have tapered slower, I could have been a lot lower now. Learned a valuable lesson.

 

Thats awesome that you are getting a new kitchen. We are eventually remodeling our bathroom, but I need dental work first. It's always one thing or another lol...

 

I hope you had fun with your granddaughter. They are so much fun. Mine will be 10 next month. I can't believe it. I remember the day she was born. I hope it went well with your mom and aunty. It's touchy when they don't understand.

 

I haven't been weepy for a few days. So I'm sure I'll have something else pop up, just hasn't reared its ugly head yet.

 

Hope you got your paint picked out. I'm sure your kitchen will be beautiful.

 

Hope you're feeling well. :)

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

 

 

 

 

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Ihi Frogie

 

Yes today finds me well.  Also went well with my mother and aunty.  Little Esme has become a bit of a healing force - mending a few family rifts and greviences.   I didn't get the paint today as we ran out of time socialising so I am going tomorrow now.

 

It is odd - I feel.much more confident socially since reducing my citalopram yet others take it for social anxiety.  

 

Quick question for you Frogie  - when you were crying a lot was that neurpotions - I just assumed something had upset you but of that is withdrawal that is illuminating for me.

 

When I got some of my citalpram low once in a fast fast taper I had a whole day of angry tears which. I put down to.me being unbalanced but it may well.have been withdrawal.

 

I am amazed that these drugs are so powerful.

 

I have no withdrawal symptoms at present and life is being kind to me at present.  It hasn't always been kind in the past but it is OK for now. 

 

I think.I have spent most of my adult life

In withdrawal from some type of med or another.  The first med I ever withdrew from was librium which is similar to diazepam.

 

I regret taking them all.now and I don't think any of them.helped and even stopped me addressing the cause of my distress.   But that is too late now.  However it crosses my mind a lot.

 

Perhaps they have helped - it is just that I have my doubts

 

Joy 

 

 

 

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Hi Joy

 

It's great to read your latest post and am so glad you are doing well.

 

I have had a great few days but am very tired, nauseous and would be weepy if I gave into it!! Probably just tired after all that has been going on but hope I am not heading back into another wave!

 

It's wonderful that things are improving with your family relationships. All these things make life so much easier to deal with. 

 

Hope things remain stable for you and that you enjoy every minute to the full.

 

Love from Flowers xxx

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi all, especially Flowers and Frogie

 

I seem to be over any timescale for repercussions from when I had to guess my dosage and things have settled down nicely.  I feel settled on 18 mg, but am still going to do another 3 weeks at this dose.

 

To the moderators:

 

I had a lightening thought that the manufacturers of these drugs should produce them in many different strengths so that we can mix different strengths to get a dosage, rather like we have notes and coins to make up a sum of money.  I suppose that will mean them putting in new equipment to do so, but it should come under their duty of care to the customers.  Using a syringe to measure out dosages makes me feel like an illegal drug addict, it is as if the drug companies are showing me no respect.  What does anyone else think?  After all if they made citalopram say 0.25 mg pill and made it scored to make quarters, it would help many people to reduce.  The pills could be colour coded for identification purposes, although I know some people may be sensitive to the colourings.  Or the packs could be colour coded and the pills could stay white.

 

I would prefer this to making a liquid or measuring using scales.

 

Joy   with no withdrawal symptoms whatsoever as I type and feeling balanced in every way.

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Hi Joy!

 

Glad you are doing well after the 'blip'!

 

I missed a dose once when tapering as unexpectedly had to spend the night at the hospital with my friend and didn't have my meds with me. Luckily I was fine too. 

 

I love your thoughts on different strengths of pills - great idea and it would stop us having to use syringes which I don't like either. 

 

Flowers xxx

 

 

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