gentlehermione Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Sorry @direstraits @mickde1 I wasn’t suggesting reinstating. I was referring to the fact that you had tried taking Prozac for a year hoping to alleviate your ongoing WD symptoms and was hoping that someone more knowledgeable could tell you if that had had any impact on your WD. Effexor XR 75mg 1997-2012 Effexor XR 37.5mg 2012-2017 (tapered off over six months - finished taper July 2017) SCA Aug 12th, 2017 Cymbalta 30mg Aug 2017 - Nov 2017 (CT Nov. 17th for medical reasons) Metoprolol 50mg Aug 2017 - Feb 2019 tapered down to 25mg June 2019 then tapered down to zero. Off Metoprolol as of Jan 2020 Amiodarone (anti-arrhythmic med) 200mg Nov 2017- May 2018 Supplements: Omega 3, vitamin D3, magnesium What helps me: Manual lymphatic drainage massage, acupressure, meditation, homeopathy (my psychiatrist is also a certified homeopath), a healthy diet when possible organic, yoga, walking my dogs every day and gardening. Link to comment
gentlehermione Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 19 hours ago, direstraits said: Thanks for your kind words... I hope you're doing well ❤️ @direstraits I’m still in a wave but have been able to regain a more positive mindset 🙂 1 Effexor XR 75mg 1997-2012 Effexor XR 37.5mg 2012-2017 (tapered off over six months - finished taper July 2017) SCA Aug 12th, 2017 Cymbalta 30mg Aug 2017 - Nov 2017 (CT Nov. 17th for medical reasons) Metoprolol 50mg Aug 2017 - Feb 2019 tapered down to 25mg June 2019 then tapered down to zero. Off Metoprolol as of Jan 2020 Amiodarone (anti-arrhythmic med) 200mg Nov 2017- May 2018 Supplements: Omega 3, vitamin D3, magnesium What helps me: Manual lymphatic drainage massage, acupressure, meditation, homeopathy (my psychiatrist is also a certified homeopath), a healthy diet when possible organic, yoga, walking my dogs every day and gardening. Link to comment
mickde1 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 I'm glad to hear there's been a change manifesting in a positive direction taking ground back God Bless I've been medication free for 65 months and a half months as posted of May 30th 2021 , stopped med's December 14th 2015, history 20 years on Prozac 80mg & Moclobemide 150 mg per day, stopped Moclobemide sometime in 2012 then about a year later lowered Prozac dose to 20mg per day, then changed to Paroxetine, then change to a Mirtazapine, then change to Lexapro, then changed to Brintellix, then changed to Edronax all at 10mgs or less over a period of about year, Edronax tapered 4mg to 2mg over 10 weeks, 2 mg for 8 weeks 1 mg for 10 weeks stopped all meds completely 14 December 2015 3 months later all HELL broke loose 18 Jan 2019 reinstated Prozac .25 mg then ceased 8/8/20 Quote Link to comment
gentlehermione Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Dear @direstraits “Hope is the whisper that tells us there’s a light, even in the darkest tunnels.“ Charlie Mackesy Hope you‘re feeling better 🥰 2 Effexor XR 75mg 1997-2012 Effexor XR 37.5mg 2012-2017 (tapered off over six months - finished taper July 2017) SCA Aug 12th, 2017 Cymbalta 30mg Aug 2017 - Nov 2017 (CT Nov. 17th for medical reasons) Metoprolol 50mg Aug 2017 - Feb 2019 tapered down to 25mg June 2019 then tapered down to zero. Off Metoprolol as of Jan 2020 Amiodarone (anti-arrhythmic med) 200mg Nov 2017- May 2018 Supplements: Omega 3, vitamin D3, magnesium What helps me: Manual lymphatic drainage massage, acupressure, meditation, homeopathy (my psychiatrist is also a certified homeopath), a healthy diet when possible organic, yoga, walking my dogs every day and gardening. Link to comment
direstraits Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 9 hours ago, gentlehermione said: Dear @direstraits “Hope is the whisper that tells us there’s a light, even in the darkest tunnels.“ Charlie Mackesy Hope you‘re feeling better 🥰 Thanks 🙏 went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs. Link to comment
wantrelief Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Hi @direstraits, I just read on another thread that you had to put your other cat down. I am so so sorry you are going through the grief of losing a beloved kitty. I also wanted to say that I am really sorry you are still struggling with withdrawal symptoms. I understand how hard it is to keep hope alive when so much time has passed. I am hopeful you will experience a change for the better, just really sorry it has taken so long for it to arrive. You are very brave. I am thinking of you. -1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper (essentially CT); withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD) -10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin after 4 mos. Several unsuccessful slow tapers of Zoloft; went up and down in dose a lot -Spring 2013 back on 1 mg Klonopin to counter WD symptoms; switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to 35 mg citalopram -Two attempts at slow tapering citalopram, always increased dose due to WD; also increased Klonopin to 1.25 mg in 2014, then to 1.5 mg in 2015 -8/17-9/17: After holding one year at 20 mg, feeling withdrawal symptoms due to stress - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?) - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg). Supplements: fish oil; magnesium; vitamin D3; curcumin Citalopram taper: 2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg I 2020: 10.89 mg - 7.9 mg I 2021: 7.8 mg - 5.26 mg I 2022: 5.2 mg - 3.36 mg I 2023: 3.3 mg - 1.47 mg 2024: 1/5/24: 1.44 mg; 1/19/24: 1.40 mg; 1/26/24: 1.37 mg; 2/2/24: 1.34 mg; 2/9/24: 1.31 mg; 2/23/24: 1.28 mg; 3/1/24: 1.25 mg; 3/8/24: 1.22 mg; 3/15/24: 1.19 mg; 3/29/24: 1.17 mg; 4/5/24: 1.14 mg; 4/13/24: 1.11 mg; 4/20/24: 1.09 mg Link to comment
direstraits Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 Thanks so much for your kind words, @wantrelief... I really appreciate it. It's nice to know there is someone who understands what you're going through. I read how you tried to describe how you feel and I can identify with a lot of it. The feeling "sick". Being stuck in your head, ruminating etc..it's an awful way to live. What can we do except keep going. I remember alto saying everyone heals, I have to believe it will happen someday. Thanks for thinking of me 💕 Take care 2 went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs. Link to comment
gentlehermione Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Hi @direstraits Sorry to hear about your cat. I feel your pain. Last year we had to have three of our four dogs pts within three months. Grief all around - it was devastating. All that stress certainly slows down the healing from withdrawal process. Hugs GH Effexor XR 75mg 1997-2012 Effexor XR 37.5mg 2012-2017 (tapered off over six months - finished taper July 2017) SCA Aug 12th, 2017 Cymbalta 30mg Aug 2017 - Nov 2017 (CT Nov. 17th for medical reasons) Metoprolol 50mg Aug 2017 - Feb 2019 tapered down to 25mg June 2019 then tapered down to zero. Off Metoprolol as of Jan 2020 Amiodarone (anti-arrhythmic med) 200mg Nov 2017- May 2018 Supplements: Omega 3, vitamin D3, magnesium What helps me: Manual lymphatic drainage massage, acupressure, meditation, homeopathy (my psychiatrist is also a certified homeopath), a healthy diet when possible organic, yoga, walking my dogs every day and gardening. Link to comment
direstraits Posted March 20 Author Share Posted March 20 I'm so sorry to hear that, @gentlehermione my heart goes out to you. We love our pets so much. Thanks for your kind words and hugs. Hugs back to you 🤗 Take care ❣️ went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted April 7 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted April 7 How are you doing @direstraits? I’m so very sorry to hear about your cat, sending you the biggest hugs🤗💕 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
direstraits Posted April 7 Author Share Posted April 7 6 hours ago, Carmie said: How are you doing @direstraits? I’m so very sorry to hear about your cat, sending you the biggest hugs🤗💕 Thanks Carmie, so nice to hear from you.❤️ I'm struggling a lot lately... so tired of dealing with this. Really miss my kitty.. He was my buddy.😢 Nice to see you doing your gratitude list. You're so strong. Hope you're having some relief from your suffering 🤗 ❤️ 2 went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs. Link to comment
direstraits Posted Sunday at 03:49 PM Author Share Posted Sunday at 03:49 PM I seem to be going downhill since we put our cat down 😢 I'll get a little relief then back to hell... over a month of this. I'm just so worn down after dealing with this for almost ten years... I'm pushing 70 and scared to death that this is never going to end.😕 went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs. Link to comment
Sonia009 Posted Sunday at 04:05 PM Share Posted Sunday at 04:05 PM 7 minutes ago, direstraits said: I seem to be going downhill since we put our cat down 😢 I'll get a little relief then back to hell... over a month of this. I'm just so worn down after dealing with this for almost ten years... I'm pushing 70 and scared to death that this is never going to end.😕 @direstraitsSorry for intruding but I read about your cat, so sorry. I had two beautiful persians and they died within a year of one another three years ago, they were a good age. I still grieve for them and particularly since being in withdrawal, they crop up in my thoughts often and I cannot help but cry because I miss them so much still. Have you considered getting another cat? I got a small dog but I really wanted another Persian, my husband couldn't bear replacing them. I hope you feel better soon.🙏😊 2008 10 mg Citalopram, 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide 2021 reduced Citalopram over three years,2023 5.2 mg Citalopram for approx. 1 year Sept 2023 taken off Citalopram and bendroflumethiazide , put on Amitriptyline 10 mg and Ramipril 2.5 mg October 2023 taken off Amitriptyline and Ramipril put on Propranolol 10 mg October 2023 put on Losartan 25 mg November 2023 taken off Losartan on Propranolol 10 mg December 2023 now on 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide + Citalopram 0.5 mg. February 2024, taken off bendroflumethiazide, on bisoprolol 1.25 mg February 2024, taken off bisoprolol, on ramipril 1.25 mg + 0.5mg Citalopram, stopped ramipril. Link to comment
direstraits Posted Sunday at 06:18 PM Author Share Posted Sunday at 06:18 PM Thanks for your kind words, @Sonia009. Sorry you lost your kitties too. I'm not ready to get another cat yet, especially the way I feel right now. Maybe someday. I just want to be done with this suffering.. I'm so exhausted . Hope you're having a good day 💗. went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs. Link to comment
Sonia009 Posted Sunday at 06:29 PM Share Posted Sunday at 06:29 PM 9 minutes ago, direstraits said: Thanks for your kind words, @Sonia009. Sorry you lost your kitties too. I'm not ready to get another cat yet, especially the way I feel right now. Maybe someday. I just want to be done with this suffering.. I'm so exhausted . Hope you're having a good day 💗. @direstraitsI understand. Sorry you are still going through the withdrawal. I had my new pup before all this started but now I'm struggling. I have a dog walker coming in on weekdays, my husband takes him evenings and weekends. I used to do it and enjoy it and it's so frustrating that I cannot do it at the moment. My symptoms are ongoing too, it's so annoying. Hope you feel better soon.🙏😊 2008 10 mg Citalopram, 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide 2021 reduced Citalopram over three years,2023 5.2 mg Citalopram for approx. 1 year Sept 2023 taken off Citalopram and bendroflumethiazide , put on Amitriptyline 10 mg and Ramipril 2.5 mg October 2023 taken off Amitriptyline and Ramipril put on Propranolol 10 mg October 2023 put on Losartan 25 mg November 2023 taken off Losartan on Propranolol 10 mg December 2023 now on 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide + Citalopram 0.5 mg. February 2024, taken off bendroflumethiazide, on bisoprolol 1.25 mg February 2024, taken off bisoprolol, on ramipril 1.25 mg + 0.5mg Citalopram, stopped ramipril. Link to comment
wantrelief Posted Sunday at 09:05 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:05 PM Hi @direstraits, I am so sorry you are suffering so much and for so long now. As you know I can understand all too well. It is indeed so very exhausting. Then there are life stressors that would be challenging even if we were feeling well but just are so much harder to deal with when ill from withdrawal. 5 hours ago, direstraits said: I'll get a little relief I am glad you get some better moments at least....it does show that your brain is working hard and that there is hope.....I know it feels impossible but try to hold on to those glimmers. I really really hope those moments become longer and more frequent for you. My heart is with you. 💖 -1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper (essentially CT); withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD) -10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin after 4 mos. Several unsuccessful slow tapers of Zoloft; went up and down in dose a lot -Spring 2013 back on 1 mg Klonopin to counter WD symptoms; switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to 35 mg citalopram -Two attempts at slow tapering citalopram, always increased dose due to WD; also increased Klonopin to 1.25 mg in 2014, then to 1.5 mg in 2015 -8/17-9/17: After holding one year at 20 mg, feeling withdrawal symptoms due to stress - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?) - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg). Supplements: fish oil; magnesium; vitamin D3; curcumin Citalopram taper: 2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg I 2020: 10.89 mg - 7.9 mg I 2021: 7.8 mg - 5.26 mg I 2022: 5.2 mg - 3.36 mg I 2023: 3.3 mg - 1.47 mg 2024: 1/5/24: 1.44 mg; 1/19/24: 1.40 mg; 1/26/24: 1.37 mg; 2/2/24: 1.34 mg; 2/9/24: 1.31 mg; 2/23/24: 1.28 mg; 3/1/24: 1.25 mg; 3/8/24: 1.22 mg; 3/15/24: 1.19 mg; 3/29/24: 1.17 mg; 4/5/24: 1.14 mg; 4/13/24: 1.11 mg; 4/20/24: 1.09 mg Link to comment
direstraits Posted Sunday at 09:46 PM Author Share Posted Sunday at 09:46 PM Thanks so much, @Sonia009 and @wantrelief feeling worse than ever but your support helps. Sending love and healing thoughts to you both.💕 went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs. Link to comment
gentlehermione Posted Monday at 05:26 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:26 PM Dear @direstraits I feel your pain 😶 Hold on - there are better days ahead. For sure 😉 Hugs GH Effexor XR 75mg 1997-2012 Effexor XR 37.5mg 2012-2017 (tapered off over six months - finished taper July 2017) SCA Aug 12th, 2017 Cymbalta 30mg Aug 2017 - Nov 2017 (CT Nov. 17th for medical reasons) Metoprolol 50mg Aug 2017 - Feb 2019 tapered down to 25mg June 2019 then tapered down to zero. Off Metoprolol as of Jan 2020 Amiodarone (anti-arrhythmic med) 200mg Nov 2017- May 2018 Supplements: Omega 3, vitamin D3, magnesium What helps me: Manual lymphatic drainage massage, acupressure, meditation, homeopathy (my psychiatrist is also a certified homeopath), a healthy diet when possible organic, yoga, walking my dogs every day and gardening. Link to comment
direstraits Posted Monday at 07:42 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 07:42 PM You're so kind.. thanks ❤️ Hugs to you too 🤗 went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs. Link to comment
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