Hibari

Hibari: Tapering Remeron and want to start tapering Lamicatal

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It's a miracle Hibari! Earned by blood, sweat and tears. I am so happy for you.

 

I'm so glad you're not scared. You are a true winner.

 

Hallelujah! 

 

Leahy

You are my witness Leahy and I so appreciate all the support you have given me.  So many times I felt crazy and despairing and you would just keep me grounded.  I may need you again but for now, knowing you are celebrating with me means so much. 

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Thank you Survivor.  I see that like me, you have some multiple meds you are getting off of and I get what that is like.  Lots of determination and blind faith. 

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Continued nausea and spaciness today but this has been my process the whole time.  Not matter how big or small a cut I made with Mirt/Remeron, I have always felt it.  

 

Going to get some treatments this week to move some of the physical stuff out of my system.

 

Icky, powerful drug.

 

K

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Well done, Hibari! Such a big step - time for celebration!

I hope you will feel better and better!

Hugs!

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Thank you Amy.  Definitely feeling the physical symptoms and trying to care for myself in a gentle way.

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7 days from my last dose of Remeron.   The main symptoms are nausea, spaciness, some headaches and fatigue.  I do feel more sensitive to noise and people.  I do feel better and better as the day goes on, and I even though I have had fleeting thoughts of how to time my Lamictal taper, I think I am okay.   I'm not depressed. 

 

I've had two body treatments this week, one cranial sacral combined with chiropractic adjustments, and acupuncture. I told my acupuncturist that I feel puffy, like my body has been holding onto something and is getting ready to release something-probably more of the puffy, fluffy medication weight.

 

One foot in front of the other. 

 

H

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Good to hear, Hibari. You are doing so well. I hope my jump will be that smooth too.

Hugs!

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Hi Hibari,

 

It does feel like puffy, fluffy medication weight! It will be nice to release that!

 

Even if every day is a little bit better than the previous day, it is a wonderful path to happiness and good health.

 

L

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Really in the physical symptoms and even though I have a reaction to not feeling well, I know it's wd. I wish I felt better but I'm so clear that this is my Remeron wd pattern. I am in the peak time of that pattern, which is usually hits the second week after a cut.

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11 days from my last dose of Remeron and the good news is I am not depressed or mentally despairing. The bad news is that my physically symptoms are intense. The biggest one is nausea followed by dizziness and then head pressure.

 

I stepped off at about 0.025 and this just confirms how powerful this med is. Looking forward to stabilizing and then continuing my Lamictal taper.

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Your calmness will help you thru, Hibari. This will pass.

Sending healing thoughts,

Amy

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Hibari...

At lower levels for me is the same, my WD start on the 5th day and reach a peek by 8-th to 10th day. For sure it is WD. For me it is working the same. I do not have depression... but lack of motivation and fatigue. Sometimes as today (it is the 5th day for me on 3.4) where i have brain fog and try to push on.

Do not worry... you already know the pattern my friend. Things will stabilize slowly. These meds are strong... but we are definitely stronger. We will do it for our loved ones.

Respect my friend... and keep on. Happy that you have won one of the battles.

Good luck Santino

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Your calmness will help you thru, Hibari. This will pass.

Sending healing thoughts,

Amy

Thanks Amy.  There is no other way but through.

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Hibari...

 

At lower levels for me is the same, my WD start on the 5th day and reach a peek by 8-th to 10th day. For sure it is WD. For me it is working the same. I do not have depression... but lack of motivation and fatigue. Sometimes as today (it is the 5th day for me on 3.4) where i have brain fog and try to push on.

 

Do not worry... you already know the pattern my friend. Things will stabilize slowly. These meds are strong... but we are definitely stronger. We will do it for our loved ones.

 

Respect my friend... and keep on. Happy that you have won one of the battles.

 

Good luck Santino

We are stronger-thanks for reminding me.

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13 days off Remeron. I feel sea sick so I looked up why Dramamine works for sea sickness and it's an antihistamine. Remeron has antihistamine qualities so no wonder I feel so ill withdrawing from it.

 

This really does take resilience and self-talk to get through.

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Hibari.  Hang in there.  You are strong and resilient  !   :)  

 

(( hugs ))

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You might try those wrist bands from the drug store for seasickness. I find they worked better for me than dramamine when suffering from remeron seasickness.

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Thank you both!

 

Headache still here, the nausea is less-had a body treatment (chiropractor and cranial sacral)yesterday and cried my eyes out.  The practitioner was very kind and said do you want to talk about it.  I shared how stressful this whole process is and that most people don't understand the process, that it's not like quitting coffee or nicotine.  I also cried because of how I got to my depression in the first place-overworking and such.  Lots of grief.

 

Feel okay today-tired and headache. 

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14 days off of Remeron.  Today mainly very tired, exhausted when I woke up.   Headache is there but less intense, mainly it's foggy brain and some low level nausea.  I do feel a little weepy. 

 

I don't know how much Lamictal is playing in this process.  I feel pretty flat emotionally, not numb but not really vibrant.  Lamictal does have that flattening out quality and I really am aware of it. 

Remeron has a similar effect but there is a difference. 

 

Time will tell.

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14 days off of Remeron.  Today mainly very tired, exhausted when I woke up.   Headache is there but less intense, mainly it's foggy brain and some low level nausea.  I do feel a little weepy. 

 

I don't know how much Lamictal is playing in this process.  I feel pretty flat emotionally, not numb but not really vibrant.  Lamictal does have that flattening out quality and I really am aware of it. 

Remeron has a similar effect but there is a difference. 

 

Time will tell.

Congrats for being off Remeron.  I hated that drug. I also have some friends who have taken it with horrible results but managed to get off it. I have been off of it since 2014. Hope you Lamictal taper goes well.

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Thank you Chicken-I too have hated Remeron.  Never really gave me relief from my depression just knocked me out.   I'm so glad to hear that you and your friends go off of it. 

 

I just saw your signature, Congratulations on being Drug Free!  I hope you are feeling okay and living life the way you want.   Looks like you have come through quite a journey.

 

Thank you for stopping by my thread, I'm going to pop over to yours in a bit.

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I was talking with a friend of mine about this idea of the "middle part of any journey".  This is where the not so pretty, sludgey work happens till you get to the end.   I said to her that one of the most frustrating mental parts of wd is that awareness doesn't always bring relief.  What I meant was that when I am in emotional pain, I find relief once I understand why I am in emotional pain.  My body and mind relax.

 

But with withdrawal, awareness doesn't take away the ongoing symptoms.   It's like saying, "Oh, that's why I am in such pain", and then still being in pain.  I have always felt that the mental/brain compromise piece of wd is what makes it so tough for me.  I can't rely on my brain to help me through all the time.  I'm aware that I am fine underneath but then still have to cope with a low grade down feeling, nausea and stuffy head. 

 

It's only been 17 days since I stopped Remeron and while I am certainly functional and out in the world, I am not feeling like a well person. 

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I understand exactly what you mean, Hibari. One can accept, but the pain is still there. But sometimes not adding second fear helps to calm down the worst mental pain. But the physical, no.

This long wd process is by all means the worst thing I have gone thru.

I hope you will feel much much better soon!

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Hibari,

 

It's so good to know that you feel functional and can be out in the world even though you are not feeling like a well person. 

 

It's never easy but you and I are very determined people. Whatever it takes, we will be well again - even better than before.

 

I'm guessing that is going to be something we will have to work at for the rest of our lives. At least we're getting our brains back. That should help. A lot.

 

Thinking of you and, as always, so proud of your accomplishments.

 

L

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I understand exactly what you mean, Hibari. One can accept, but the pain is still there. But sometimes not adding second fear helps to calm down the worst mental pain. But the physical, no.

This long wd process is by all means the worst thing I have gone thru.

I hope you will feel much much better soon!

It's the worst thing I have ever gone through as well.   I need to be realistic on how fast I will either stabilize or feel better. 

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Hibari,

 

It's so good to know that you feel functional and can be out in the world even though you are not feeling like a well person. 

 

It's never easy but you and I are very determined people. Whatever it takes, we will be well again - even better than before.

 

I'm guessing that is going to be something we will have to work at for the rest of our lives. At least we're getting our brains back. That should help. A lot.

 

Thinking of you and, as always, so proud of your accomplishments.

 

L

Thank you Leahy.  You are darn right, we are two very determined people and I love that you believe that we will be better than before.  I hope you are well-let me know how you are doing.

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It continues.  Very sick today-nausea, head pressure, anxiety that this will go on forever.  Still the dizzy feeling and certainly weepy.  I am trying to avoid second guessing myself and waiting to for all of this to ease up.  No appetite, and using the bathroom a lot.   Just want to be truthful here so I can track myself. 

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Hibari,

Congratulations for getting off Rameron.

Hang in there, you will get there.

Hopefull. :)

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It's happening Hopeful.  After a healing crisis, early Monday morning at about 4AM where the sweat was pouring off of me, my head was pounding and my fear level through the roof, I woke up later that morning and felt something had lifted.   And it did.

 

Today, I have felt more like myself than ever.  Still some residual rebound anxiety but my head feels clear.   Looking forward to things getting better and better knowing there may be some bumps.

 

Thank you for your support.   How are you doing? 

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HIBARI.... My friend

I am following your recovery.... and surprise you are feeling better. Soo happy for you my friend. Just follow on that path and you will make it for sure.

Staretd at 3.1 last night. Fingers crossed for me as well... :-)

All the best and enjoy the weekend.

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Great to hear, Hibari!

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Yes, it's good news.  I am having mentally good days with a touch of nausea, anxiety and headache but not overwhelming.  I think I need to look into a low histamine way of eating for awhile because I mainly get the headache and nausea after I eat.  FreeSpirit had mentioned those as histamine symptoms.

 

By the way, my false Remeron hunger is gone.   I no longer feel the urge to eat and in fact don't have much of an appetite at all.  I don't feel worried but it's such a dramatic change in that department.  Haven't weighed myself yet but will in a couple of days.

 

Thank you both and know you have my support as well. 

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Hallelujah! There is hope. I am so enjoying your recovery, Hibari. Great job! Thanks for sharing!

 

Hugs,

L

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Thank you Leahy! Let me know how you are.

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It's been 28 days off of Remeron and I wish I could say I was feeling okay.  It's been extremely up and down and lately a lot of nausea, dizziness, brain fog and headaches.  I made the mistake of doing some body treatments and it set me back.  To much releasing when I really need to be just quiet and stable.  It's discouraging right now.  My low mood is mainly in reaction to not feeling well.  It's tough to wake up most days feeling sick, sweaty and weak. 

 

I do tend to get better as the day goes on but the energy it takes to talk myself through the anxiety of not feeling well takes it's toll. 

 

Not sure how my Lamictal dosage is playing a part here.  Maybe it's keeping me stable and I don't know it.  I can't make a move on it till I feel better. 

 

I probably stepped off at too high a dose but I was so despondent about being on Remeron I chose to take that action.  I don't even mean despondent because of withdrawal, I mean despondent on how it was impacting my life. 

 

So a mixed update and a true hope that things will get better.

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Okay, today is better.  Woke up with much less nausea and symptoms.   Still the odd fuzzy head, spacey feeling but less.

 

Had a cup of green tea and it cleared some of the fog out. 

 

I just need to take good care of myself and not push in any area right now.  Maintaining everything as it is now is a victory. 

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