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#37 Altostrata

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 08:35 AM

Dr. Glenmullen is very well respected. He's a pioneer in tapering. His taper rates may well be suited to the average person -- most do not have extensive difficulty reducing dosage. His books also exhaustively explain withdrawal symptoms and to updose or slow tapering if they occur. If doctors read his books and absorbed even a quarter of the advice in them, we'd all be a lot better off. I don't know if he's taking private patients. If someone could contact him and see if he'd agree to be listed in this topic, I'd appreciate it!
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 06:52 AM

Does anyone know of Any good doctors in Canada? I could really benefit from seeing someone who understands my situation.

1998-2013 Various antidepressants switches and CTs.

Benzo addiction unknowingly trying to cover withdrawals in 2011

January 2012,, 25 mg Zoloft , March 2012, Remeron 7.5 to sleep and 1 mg Clonazepam.

Tapered Clonazepam from April to June 2012 from 1 mg to .25 mg (stuck)

September to October 2012 tapered Remeron 7.5 mg to 5 mg. December upped to .75 mg Clonazepam due to mothers passing of cancer.

February 2013 to December 2013 tapered off 25 mg Zoloft

January 2014 to March 2014 tapered off 5 mg Remeron Doing not to bad, not perfect but okay. Here is where I screw up May 2014 to October 2014 tapered Clonazepam from .75 mg to .25 mg. Rapidly worsening every week. January 2015 updosed Clonazepam to .5 mg. Big Mistake - Holding

Currently .25 mg  Clonazepam 11 pm at night (give or take an hour)  and .25 mg 9 am in the morning (give or take an hour)

Hope this isn't to confusing.


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Posted 11 May 2012 - 03:36 PM

Sorry, Annie, not at this time.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 04:15 PM

I am proud that Dr. Malika Burman has agreed to be listed among our recommended doctors.

Dr. Berman has just posted a beautiful piece on Bob Whitaker's site MadinAmerica.com at http://www.madinamer...ut-of-hiding-2/

Her site is http://www.holisticpsych.net/ , where she can be reached via e-mail.

Dr. Malika Burman
12736 SW 55th Place
Portland, OR 97219
972-352-0674
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 04:40 PM

Our member Eonwe had a good experience with this psychiatrist and addiction specialist:

Dr. Noel T. Rivers-Bulkeley
http://www.atlantapr...epsychiatry.com

Atlanta Private Psychiatry
4360 Chamblee Dunwoody Rd Ste 530
Atlanta, GA 30341
(770) 454-8787

See the philosophy Dr. Rivers-Bulkeley has published on his site.
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Posted 09 June 2012 - 01:17 PM

Dr. Robert Lefever

http://www.doctor-robert.com/
Flat 1, 58a Old Brompton Road, South Kensington, SW7 3DY (UK)
+44(0)7540 281 820

He has contributed this bio: “Dr Robert Lefever has retired from general medical practice in order to focus on his work with addiction and depression. He considers that anti-depressants are highly addictive drugs in people who have an addictive nature.”

(I disagree with this; one need not have an "addictive nature" to become physically dependent on psychiatric drugs. This indicates Dr. Lefever will address what he considers to be the psychological basis of your withdrawal symptoms.)

(See this article: Antidepressants are merely another addiction - for doctors as well as the patients (by Dr Robert Lefever).)

Dr. Lefever now offers counseling only. He does not write prescriptions for tapering. He will refer patients to private doctors nearby who will assist individualized tapering. He is not reimbursed by NHS and neither are the doctors to whom he refers patients.

One of our members reports he charges £400 per hour. For her experience with Dr. Lefever, see http://survivinganti...dpost__p__51957

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 11:23 AM

My doctor in The Dalles, Oregon is supportive of slow tapers and uses alternative nondrug treatments whenever possible. (She's fully trained in Ayurvedic medicine but also an MD.) She's not a specialist in drug tapering, though. But she refills my prescriptions and is encouraging and frequently tells me she's pleased with my progress and proud of me (and you see how slowly I'm going, but I get no pressure at all from her to go faster). So I don't know if you want to add her to the list, but for sure if anyone in the Columbia Gorge area needs a doc who will support a slow taper, I'd recommend this lady. Her name's Prachi Garodia.

Started on Prozac and Xanax in 1992 for PTSD after an assault. One drug led to more, the usual story. Got sicker and sicker, but believed I needed the drugs for my "underlying disease" as I was told. Long and tragic story...lost everything. Life savings, home, physical and mental health, relationships, friendships, ability to work, everything.

 

Now tapering, ironically (but not surprisingly) healthier and more functional than I ever was during the years on the "meds," even with withdrawal (usually fairly mild at this slow pace).

 

Started multidrug taper in Feb 2010.  Doing a very slow microtaper, down to low doses now and feeling SO much better, getting my old personality and my brain back! Able to work full time, have a full social life, and cope with stress better than ever. Not perfect, but much better. After 23 lost years. Big Pharma has a lot to answer for. And "medicine for profit" is just not a great idea.

 

Feb 15 2010:  300 mg Neurontin  200 Lamictal   10 Celexa      0.65 Xanax   and 5 mg Ambien 

Feb 14 2011:   86 mg Neurontin   144 Lamictal,    5.5 Celexa   0.42 Xanax      1.9 mg Valium

Feb 16 2012:   10 mg Neurontin   115 Lamictal     3.7 Celexa   0.285 Xanax     2.0 Valium

Feb 22 2013:   86 Lamictal    2.05 Celexa       0.23 Xanax      1.8 Valium

Feb 10 2014:   62 Lamictal    1.1 Celexa         0.135 Xanax    1.8 Valium

Feb 10 2015:   50 Lamictal      0.875 Celexa    0.11 Xanax      1.5 Valium

Feb 15 2016:   47.5 Lamictal   0.75 Celexa      0.0875 Xanax    1.42 Valium    

Now:                43                    0.625                 0.0775            1.3

 

I'm not a doctor. Any advice I give is just my civilian opinion.


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Posted 30 July 2012 - 11:47 AM

Dr. Debra London

http://www.rightbrainpsychiatry.com

Debra S. London, M.D.
Right Brain Psychiatry
811 El Camino Road
Ojai, CA 93023
805-272-8039

Dr. London is an integrative psychiatrist who is familiar with the Prozac switch and many other tapering techniques. She writes:

I would be happy to be described as a psychiatrist who is skillful in slow tapers of AD's and handling discontinuation syndromes and would be comfortable supporting anyone who wants help coming off these drugs. I follow something very similiar to the Ashton Protocol for long term users of benzodiazepines. I am also trained in acupuncture by Joseph Helms, MD and use supplements and diet as well as some very powerful cognitive and meditative practices. Please feel free to list me.


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Posted 22 August 2012 - 03:51 PM

I'm not sure of the protocol of adding a doctor here (if they need to be contacted and agree to it, etc.?) I would nominate my psychiatrist, Dr. Elizabeth McMasters, from McHenry Community Health Center, McHenry, IL. She has been very sympathetic, and seems to recognize my descriptions as withdrawal syndrome, not relapse. She has been supportive and willing to taper slowly and carefully, and has shown interest when I share things I have learned about withdrawal syndrome. She has never once tried to suggest I need to stay on medication for life, and seems conservative about prescribing. I'm not sure if she would consider herself a withdrawal expert but she does seem more knowledgeable than anyone else I have run into.

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Dr. Elizabeth McMasters
Pioneer Center for Human Services
Main: 815.344.1230
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Admissions: 815.759.7204
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Liberty Square
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4100 Veterans Pkwy
Mchenry, IL 60050
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YouTube https://youtu.be/AxoFsY4jxDs

and an article that mentions her http://www.nwherald....rzsuw/index.xml

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Self-tapered off Effexor after being on for 9 years around 2001
Medication-free until 2006
In 2006 went through divorce and placed on Celexa 20 mg and p.r.n. clonazepam
Stayed on 20 mg until 2011 when began cutting in half and taking 10 mg (Didn't really notice withdrawal symptoms)
Began to plan to come off in spring/summer 2012, continuing 10 mg Jan/Feb.
Tapered to 5 mg March/April (about 1 week mild withdrawal symptoms).
Tapered to sliver of tablet, estimated 2-2.5 mg in (1-2 weeks of withdrawal symptoms progressively diminishing and then stopping)
May 18, 2012: Stopped Celexa.
July 5, 2012: Reinstated Celexa at 5 mg.
July 13, 2012: Increased Celexa to 10 mg.
August 30, 2012: Increased Celexa 15 mg.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 06:34 PM

Thank you, jfrank. I'll contact her if I can and add her to our list.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 02:24 PM

Dr. Terry Lynch

http://www.doctorterrylynch.com/

Terry Lynch is a fully registered medical doctor, psychotherapist and author. He worked as a GP for over ten years. He then specialised in mental health, completing an MA in Humanistic and Integrative Psychotherapy at the University of Limerick in 2002. He has worked full-time in mental health for the past ten years, providing a recovery-oriented mental health service in Limerick, Ireland.


ANEW Psychotherapy Centre
Unit 50, Tait Business Centre
Dominic Street, Limerick, Ireland

Phone: 353-61-319747
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Posted 29 August 2012 - 04:31 PM

Thanks for the reminder about Dr. Garodia, Rhi. I'll add her to our list.

Her bio is here http://qcinstitute.org/garodia.html

Contact info from http://www.medfordmd...chi-garodia-md:
Dr. Prachi Garodia
Medford Medical Clinic

555 Black Oak Drive
Suite 100
Medford, OR 97504
Phone (541) 734-3430
Fax (541) 734-3638

Please let me know if you get any recommendations from Will Hall.


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Posted 03 September 2012 - 03:43 PM

Libby (Elizabeth) Stuyt, MD
Medical Director
Circle Program
Colorado Mental Health Institute at Pueblo
1600 W. 24th Street
Pueblo, Colorado 81003
719 546-4494

From our correspondence:

Thanks for writing and making me aware of your web sites. I like what I have seen and think they are great resources. Yes, I gradually taper patients off of psychiatric medications in our program - when they request to get off of medication and when I can convince others to try reduction of their medications. I have seen significant withdrawal symptoms in some people - especially certain SSRIs. I like that you warn people about stopping these medications abruptly. I don't know if you are aware of the company TrueHope ... ? They promote high dose minerals and vitamins for help with psychiatric symptoms. I mention them mainly because they have developed specific protocols to help people coming off psych medications if they get on their vitamin and mineral supplements....the supplements can worsen the withdrawal symptoms from psychiatric medications significantly. This probably happens with other supplements as well and people need to realize this.


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Posted 03 September 2012 - 04:13 PM

Just clarifying... Dr. Stuyt is cautioning against this and similar regimens..?
Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc).

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 04:33 PM

Yes, I think there was a mistyping in there that muddied the meaning. Dr. Stuyt is cautioning against those supplements.
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Posted 16 September 2012 - 04:15 PM

Our colleagues at PatientsRights.org.nz recommend this psychiatrist and psychologist offering natural choices

Tony Coates MD

http://www.tonycoate...nz/profile.html
Auckland
(09) 376 4249
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 09:39 AM

MindFreedom Ireland recommends Dr. Terry Lynch in Limerick and

Dr Ivor Browne
Institute of Psychosocial Medicine Practitioners
http://ipmed.org/practitioners.html
2 Eden Park, Summerhill Road, Dun Laoghaire, Co. Dublin, Ireland
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Posted 09 October 2012 - 08:37 AM

Harold R. Jordan, M.D.
53 Center St
Northampton, MA 01060
(413) 586-5555 (Office)

1233 Main St
Holyoke, MA 01040
(413) 536-5111 (Office)


Dr Jordan is a believer in long term withdrawal from SSRI's. He's a nice guy who is easy to talk to.

 

NOTE 10/18/13 : A member reports Dr. Jordan is no longer at either of these locations. If anyone knows his new office, please let us know.


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Paxil 10mg 2004-2011
7.5mg 4months
5mg. 4months
2.5mg.8 months no wd issues
Dropped pax 4-10-12
5-9-12 started prozac to alleviate symptoms (no relief)
5-22-12 reinstated paxil 2.5mg
5-28-12 5mg pax (couldn't tolerate sides)
6-22-12 Pax 2.5
6-30-12 Pax O
Cerebrolysin to help with wd at 29 months. Horrible decision much worse.
Still suffering sever Brain fog, Confusion, slow thinking,And just feeling sick and weird (hard to explain),facial twitching, weakness, shaking and jerking

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 05:30 PM

Thank you, Hawk!

Christina Lasich, MD
900 East Main Street Suite 200
Grass Valley, CA 95945
(530) 273-8480

http://www.healingwomeninpain.com/

A chronic pain management, Dr. Lasich observed her patients having difficulties in going off antidepressants, specifically, Cymbalta, prescribed for pain. She wrote this article http://www.healthcen...146506/comments

She is committed to careful tapering.

I am very proud to say our list of doctors is growing!

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:09 AM

Here's a link that may help too: Its from the American Board of Psychiatry and Neurology. They have a searchable database and multiple subspecialties that fit many of our needs. https://application....ert.asp?a=4&u=1

Short term low dose Klonopin use back in 2004
Acute, protracted withdrawal after discontinuing
Began Lexapro in 2005 to ease Benzo withdrawal
Took 2 years to stabilize
Rapid taper from Lexapro in July/August 2012
Return of anxiety, insomnia and cardiac issues
Failed reinstatement early August 2012
Acute withdrawal for 9 months; intermittent symptoms for another 6

Relief on February 9, 2014 after addition of Taurine

Almost complete remission of symptoms w/addition of 12.5mg Atenolol daily


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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:12 AM

Thanks, lexhex. Problem is, very few of those docs will understand anything at all about tapering or withdrawal syndrome. If you find any, please let us know.
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Posted 24 November 2012 - 12:53 PM

Add David Healy t this list Alto, in the UK. Also I am going to ask him to recommend to me anyone local in england who understands this so I hope to have more names
damaged by citalopram - severe suffering for 3 years now...no improvement

akathsiia, pgad, dp/dr, terror, and so SO many more daily

severly disabled and lost everything

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 01:23 PM

Excellent idea, Iggy. Please find out how one might make an appointment with Dr. Healy.
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Posted 29 December 2012 - 11:00 AM

A member recommends Dr. Gaertner. He recognized her withdrawal syndrome.

Dr. William Ronald Gaertner
http://williamrgaertner.md.com/
Insight Physicians PC
5855 Bremo Rd Ste 210
Richmond, VA 23226
(804) 282-0655

1701 Fall Hill Ave Ste 101
Fredericksburg, VA 22401-3570
(540) 735-9897

4906 Radford Ave
Richmond, VA 23230
(804) 354-1996

Specialties:
Psychiatry
Addiction Medicine
Addiction Psychiatry

 


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Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:06 AM

Duncan Double of the UK's Critical Psychiatry Network has agreed to be on our list.

He writes a blog at http://criticalpsych...y.blogspot.com/

Dr. Double only does NHS work; a GP referral is required. He is Consultant Psychiatrist, Norfolk and Suffolk NHS Foundation Trust and Honorary Senior Lecturer, Norwich Medical School, University of East Anglia

Duncan Double, MD
http://www.dbdouble....om/homepage.htm
Victoria House, 28 Alexandra Rd, Lowestoft, Suffolk, NR32 1PL, UK

Anglia Mental Health
http://www.psychiatr...entalhealth.htm
26 Christchurch Road
Norwich NR2 2AE
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 10:50 AM

Recommended by a Facebook friend https://www.facebook...ment_id=5164356

Mark Lichtenstein, MD
http://www.nchcvt.or...cproviders.html
Hardwick Health Center
4 Slapp Hill Rd
Hardwick, VT 05843
Ph. 802-472-3300, Fax 472-8277
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 11:01 AM

Recommended by a Facebook friend https://www.facebook...57141504438274/ who says they are a functional medicine (integrative medicine) group and follow the Ashton Manual for benzo tapering.

Visions Medical
http://www.visionshealthcare.com/
170 Worcester St. (Route 9), Wellesley, MA 02481
781.232.5400

910 Washington St., Dedham, MA 02026
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Posted 22 March 2013 - 11:28 AM

Dr. Rob Purssey contacted me to be put on our list after a post I made on MadinAmerica.com.

Dr Robert Purssey MBBS FRANZCP
http://mindfulpsychi...m.au/resources/

Dr Robert Purssey
MBBS FRANZCP
Psychiatrist and ACT Therapist
Director - Brisbane ACT Centre
7 Marie Street, Milton Q 4064
http://www.brisbaneactcentre.com.au
http://mindfulpsychiatry.com.au/
e-mail rob at brisbaneactcentre/com/au
P: 07 3193 1072
F: 07 3193 1073
M: 07 3309 2268

I got an e-mail from Dr. Purssey 22 March 2013:
 

I have commenced a group ACT practice here in Brisbane and wish to get more messages out offering my help in withdrawing here in Brisbane or indeed throughout Australia as I can do sessions via Skype anywhere and be rebated by our health system - Medicare.

 
Dr. Purssey will counsel anyone in Australia. He will expect you to engage in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) -- also see 

Dr. Rob Purssey's tips about Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT)

Dr. Purssey's services will be PARTLY compensated by the national health system.


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 11:33 AM

Recommended by a Facebook correspondent:

Ernest Shaw, MD
Psychiatry
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Posted 25 March 2013 - 10:27 AM

From MadinAmerica.com http://www.madinamer...author/kbrogan/

Kelly Brogan, MD
Integrative and holistic psychiatrist specializing in women's mental health
http://www.kellybroganmd.com/

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:06 AM

Dr. Tsafrir has an interesting blog at http://www.judytsafrirmd.com/

Judy Tsafrir, M.D.
Boston Holistic Psychiatrist
http://www.judytsafrirmd.com/
120 Sumner Street
Newton Centre, MA
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Tel: 617-965-3020

Dr. Tsafrir writes:

....Your website makes a real public health contribution.

I am no expert in drug tapering, but am willing to learn more. I have had one patient who has successfully almost tapered off of Paxil by switching to a liquid preparation and by decreasing by very tiny increments.

I could imagine that dietary support could make a difference for some people, as their diet is aggravating their condition or even in some cases causing it.

I would be glad to try and be helpful to patients locally who would like to try and taper from medications. I rarely just function as a psychopharmacologist to most of my patients. Most see me for a combination of psychotherapy and nutritional and life style approaches to treating their condition. I am also not affiliated with insurance companies. My patients are all self-pay, though I am willing to provide paper work that allows patients to sometimes get reimbursed for a portion of my fee.

Thanks again for contacting me, and for the important work that you do.


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 03:38 PM

You may want to read her posts on MadinAmerica.com.
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Posted 06 April 2013 - 04:03 PM

I just wanted to post here. I went and saw a doc at a holistic medial center around here. It's called Visions Medical Center. It's listed on this site as one of the friendly docs. And I'm sure they are helpful for withdrawing from Benzos, but the doctor I saw didn't have a clue about what was happening to me. I have been there in the past and have gotten tests done, etc. I recall now why I stopped going. Basically the outcome was - you have to change your diet and take these 10 expensive supplements. I was offered a 'plan' to take 5-HTP (which puts my anxiety through the roof), several proprietary blends of taurine, magnesium, etc., and some stuff that I realized after I bought it was Phenibut. Phenibut - he looked me right in the eye and said - it's not habit forming, we're dealing with the precursors to GABA, etc. But then I read you can get hooked on it. How is that any better than benzos? The guy basically went down the same old playbook - telling me I have food 'allergies' and other conditions putting stress on the body. He actually tried to tell me that he doesn't think the crisis I'm feeling right now is necessarily the withdrawal from antidepressants, but rather my diet and other factors that are stressing me. Doing a little more research, I realized that the IgG tests they use for food 'allergies' are not even proven to indicate allergies. And when I asked why I don't have allergic reactions to these foods, I was told they are delayed reactions. So I should go dairy free and gluten free when I tried to explain that I'm barely even eating enough to stay alive. I'm not saying that I couldn't benefit from improving my diet, but to claim that this is the reason I'm feeling unnatural levels of anxiety, and not the fact that I pulled the plug on a psych drug after a decade? And to think a person in my state could make these kinds of major changes right now? Really? They also had measured my cortisol levels and other hormones in the past and found these to be significantly low. This I do believe. But I see this as a result of being in so much emotional stress from (at the time of the test) thrashing around on antidepressants and taking benzos. Of course with this level of stress my adrenals and everything else that try to combat it are burning out. I know my adrenals need to heal along with the rest of my body. But there isn't much I can do about it until my system calms down. And last, they had tested me for the MTHFR mutation (which I have in both genes), but that was at my request last year. So more expensive supplements (methylfolate and methyl B12). I've taken these in the past and didn't see any improvements to anything. Maybe it would help if I WASN'T IN ACUTE WITHDRAWAL FROM SSRI's! Even though these things could help me (and in the long term probably will), I could not believe he would rattle off this same old crap after I just told him about my situation. I was shocked. I went there because I couldn't get any help from mainstream medicine or psychiatry, hoping for some understanding and perhaps an open mind. But all I got was this? Bottom line is that it's really the same thing as mainstream medicine, seeing every situation as a nail just because you have a hammer. Only with these guys it's just a different type of hammer. Anyway, just saw this thread so thought I'd share my experience.

Started on Zoloft in 2002
Switched to Lexapro in 2005
Switched to Prozac in 2008
Off Prozac abruptly in 2010 (a mistake) - crashed
Lexapro end of 2010 - didn't work
Effexor until 2012 - roller coaster from hell
Back to Prozac November 2012 - one last rise and fall
Quit Prozac 01/13

Reinstated Prozac 5mg 05/13
Trial of 7.5 Remeron for one month 06/13, then off

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 09:59 PM

Cmusic,

I am so sorry for your experiences and this is good feedback for alto so she can't adjust the list accordingly.

What you are reporting sounds somewhat similar to my experience with an alternative doctor a few years ago. I went there against my better judgment and unfortunately, my worst fears came to light as they wanted order tests that I knew were a bunch of BS.

Some people get so angry if you criticize alternative folks but your example is a perfect reason why you have to be so cautious.

CS

I just wanted to post here. I went and saw a doc at a holistic medial center around here. It's called Visions Medical Center. It's listed on this site as one of the friendly docs. And I'm sure they are helpful for withdrawing from Benzos, but the doctor I saw didn't have a clue about what was happening to me.

I have been there in the past and have gotten tests done, etc. I recall now why I stopped going. Basically the outcome was - you have to change your diet and take these 10 expensive supplements. I was offered a 'plan' to take 5-HTP (which puts my anxiety through the roof), several proprietary blends of taurine, magnesium, etc., and some stuff that I realized after I bought it was Phenibut. Phenibut - he looked me right in the eye and said - it's not habit forming, we're dealing with the precursors to GABA, etc. But then I read you can get hooked on it. How is that any better than benzos?

The guy basically went down the same old playbook - telling me I have food 'allergies' and other conditions putting stress on the body. He actually tried to tell me that he doesn't think the crisis I'm feeling right now is necessarily the withdrawal from antidepressants, but rather my diet and other factors that are stressing me. Doing a little more research, I realized that the IgG tests they use for food 'allergies' are not even proven to indicate allergies. And when I asked why I don't have allergic reactions to these foods, I was told they are delayed reactions. So I should go dairy free and gluten free when I tried to explain that I'm barely even eating enough to stay alive. I'm not saying that I couldn't benefit from improving my diet, but to claim that this is the reason I'm feeling unnatural levels of anxiety, and not the fact that I pulled the plug on a psych drug after a decade? And to think a person in my state could make these kinds of major changes right now? Really?

They also had measured my cortisol levels and other hormones in the past and found these to be significantly low. This I do believe. But I see this as a result of being in so much emotional stress from (at the time of the test) thrashing around on antidepressants and taking benzos. Of course with this level of stress my adrenals and everything else that try to combat it are burning out. I know my adrenals need to heal along with the rest of my body. But there isn't much I can do about it until my system calms down.

And last, they had tested me for the MTHFR mutation (which I have in both genes), but that was at my request last year. So more expensive supplements (methylfolate and methyl B12). I've taken these in the past and didn't see any improvements to anything. Maybe it would help if I WASN'T IN ACUTE WITHDRAWAL FROM SSRI's!

Even though these things could help me (and in the long term probably will), I could not believe he would rattle off this same old crap after I just told him about my situation. I was shocked. I went there because I couldn't get any help from mainstream medicine or psychiatry, hoping for some understanding and perhaps an open mind. But all I got was this?

Bottom line is that it's really the same thing as mainstream medicine, seeing every situation as a nail just because you have a hammer. Only with these guys it's just a different type of hammer.

Anyway, just saw this thread so thought I'd share my experience.


Drug cocktail 1995 - 2010
Started taper of Adderall, Wellbutrin XL, Remeron, and Doxepin in 2006
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Posted 07 April 2013 - 08:05 AM

I have read them and have also seen your responses! I read them, thinking you have some reservations. Thats why i was wondering whether anyone has first had experience with her, esp since i need withdrawal addressed and not "simply" the determination of how to address anxiety/insomnia! (Although gentle long term care would be welcome as well.)

2003-2010 up and down 10-40mg celexa for anxiety
2/2011 10mg
8/2011 5mg for 3 wks, then stopped completely.
middle of night waking after apx 1-2 hours of sleep (nightly), panic/jitteriness after waking
11/11 back on 30mg celexa, ambien/many supplements-insomnia/panic.
2/12 30mg celexa, many supplements (Magnesium eliminated morning tight chest/jitteriness). Off ambien!
7/12 20mg
8/12 15 mg(sleep improving,mood pos)
12/12 2.3 mg got liquid celexa!
1/13 2.1 mg
3/13 1.2 mg
4/13 down to .6 too quickly- cortisol spikes, middle of night waking, night sweats...
4/13 held at .6 for 3 weeks so far. Off most supplements as well. Withdrawal depression almost gone!

7/13 OFF OF CELEXA!!!


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Posted 07 April 2013 - 08:48 AM

I would try Dr. Brogan if I were near her.
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