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  2. Hi Flowers: I'm sure my anxiety is because it's things I don't want to do. I'm a lot calmer now that I visited with my neighbor and I'm home with Brownie. I really don't like to go to these parties, but I'll go for my fiancé. It just makes me nervous what they are going to have to eat won't agree with me. I might take an anti nausea pill before we go so I can eat. I don't take them much anymore at all. Not like I used too. I used to take them almost daily, now I might take them 1-2 times a month. I'll give Brownie love from you. You do the same to your babies. Take care, Frogie xx
  3. Scorpio: I'm sorry to hear you are still not feeling well. Do you get nauseous? That's my main symptom. It really makes you feel bad. My dr gave me Zoloft (the generic can't pronounce the name). It takes it right away when I have to take it. You might ask about it. I'm not looking forward to going to the party, but I'll go for my fiancé. I'm afraid what they will have to eat and I'll end up sick. I just need to stop complaining and get on with life. Saw my nutty neighbor, she's still a nut. Oh well, she can't help it. I would rather stay home with Brownie. Feel better soon. Take care, Frogie xx
  4. Junglechicken

    Hi JC I am doing well in WD thanks JC. I tend to do well for quite a few weeks and then very suddenly crash with dramatic symptoms that really disable me. My pattern is that I then panic and leap back to 20 mg. I used to take 30 mg. I am just under 18 mg now. I get the standard nausea, sweating, dizziness, dry vomiting and headaches, also chills. Just the usual but in a dramatic fashion. If I leap back to 20 mg I get well very quickly, but then start feeling dull and apathetic and a little fatter, so start to reduce again. I have long ago given up hope of getting off citalopram completely, my goal is now to reduce to 10 mg. I have taken ADs for 40 odd years now minus 6 months, even while pregnant, which goes against me, and many many other serious psychiatric meds. Looking back at times I have definitely needed help but there have been too many drugs and in seriously high dosages and for a long time. I am surprised I have a brain or body left at all, but am in fact quite healthy in body and mind now. I don't have any depression or anxiety now, or any physical health complaints that I know about. In that respect I am lucky. So at present I feel really well. When I get the bad symptoms I cannot believe how bad they are, much worse than my diazepam withdrawal but not as bad as my dothiepin withdrawal. It could have been worse though, I was once prescribed antipsychotics and instinctively knew they were not for me. Only took them for 3 days and never again. I also never had ECT, even though it was suggested, somehow it just never happened, and for that I am grateful. I feel I can see both sides of the coin, how sometimes the right meds at the right dose for the right length of time can be useful, but they are never prescribed in this way. When I first got better from my anxiety and depression about 8 years ago when I was 50, it was a real shock to me. At a time when other women were struggling with the menopause and getting depressed and anxious I just got completely well 4 weeks after my last period. Of course, I only knew retrospectively it had been my last period. I remember walking from my bathroom to my lounge once Tuesday morning about 11 am and just knowing that I had got better. Then I kept looking around for my 'lost illness' - it was like something was missing in my life. It had taken up years of my life and then had gone. I think I had had what they call 'reproductive depression' but there isn't much research into it. Ironically there is a specialist in this 24 miles from me, but I could never afford the fees. Looking back I think I needed hormone treatment and not psychiatric treatment. I used to feel very bitter and angry about it all, I also had an abusive childhood and first marriage, which will not have helped. I have come to some sort of acceptance now. Joy
  5. Scorpio: Will this ever end?

    So sorry Scorpio. You are really going through some awful things. Just remember the bad thoughts are not you - just your brain playing tricks on you. I had them too a few months ago but they have gone. They will go for you too. Just try to relax and rest as much as you can. Hope things ease so you can enjoy some of the evening. Love from Flowers xxx
  6. Hi Eleven10 Good luck for tomorrow then. As I remember it the rash, if it were to appear, appears around the mouth. When I took it I got a rash on my fingers (don't know why) but they kept me on the lamotrigene as they said the rash is usually around the mouth. Let's hope it has a calming effect for you and that you get some sleep. You have a lot of patience, if it was me I would be starting it straight away! Let us know how it goes, I really want this to work for you, and that it is money well spent. If you can show it works for you perhaps you will be able to get it on the NHS? Joy
  7. Scorpio: Will this ever end?

    Hi flowers yes like you my symptoms change. The pgad and bowel cramping were what hit me first and seemed to go on for ages. Then would ease then as I went downhill they would be back. For the past couple of weeks I haven’t had it, thank god, yes burning and tingling and an awareness all the time of feeling very uncomfortable. It’s a horrible symptom. The symptoms change all time at the moment. I woke to burning face, then hot flushes, nausea, anxiety, then later on today lots of head pains and those awful thoughts. Like you I haven’t been able to eat, yesterday I managed some dinner but today finding it impossible to get anything down. It’s those miserable thoughts that keep coming into my head which just makes it worse. I watched Monday nights episode and nearly didn’t bother last night but glad I did. I shall watch tonights as well but it seems there is research needed for epilepsy and ms etc. Praying tomorrow will be better for both of us. Love scorpio
  8. Hi Joy if you can convince a private dr that a drug may help they will write you a private script, its hand written and doesn't go through the NHS but is costly. im going to start the lamotrigine tomorrow I'm really nervous about SJS but it is a very low dose. Im so tired I really feel if I can sleep better I will improve
  9. Flowers: Tapering Citalopram

    Hi Flowers, sorry you're having all these problems...I hope it's nothing serious. I hope you're feeling better soon and get a nice long window! thinking of you and sending healing thoughts. big hugs,ds xxx
  10. Hi Frogie Gosh you have a busy day ahead of you - I expect that is why you are a bit anxious. I get that way if I have to do something I am not that keen to do!! I hope your visit with your neighbour goes OK - maybe you can get back on an even footing. And a party tonight too. Sometimes these things turn out better than we think they will. At least you are going along - I hope you enjoy some if not all of it. Give Brownie a hug from me - pleased she is doing so well. Love from Flowers xxx
  11. Flowers: Tapering Citalopram

    Hi flowers i know exactly what you mean about trying to determine what’s illness and what’s w/d. It sounds as though you have picked up an infection which affects your kidneys that’s rotten. I got a lot of burning/tingling with my symptoms but thank goodness that particular nasty w/d symptom has died down for the moment. My bowels have been cramping a lot today - deep joy. It is such a miserable time when in a wave when added to the mix are those horrible thoughts that slide into my head. Nausea and anxiety are the worst for me but the last two days I keep sleeping so I do get a little relief. I hope your doctor sorts out what is going on quickly and can give you the right treatment just make sure it’s an antibiotic that you can take otherwise more problems. Yes let’s hope tomorrow gets easier for both of us. Hope you are having sunny days to at least lift you. Love and big hugs scorpio
  12. Scorpio: Will this ever end?

    Hi Scorpio I just wanted to let you know I had replied over on my thread but have just read your post here. I am sorry you are getting the PGAD too. Did you have any bladder symptoms with it? I am glad that it has eased off for you, it is so awful, the worst! Do you get one symptom being replaced by another or are yours pretty much constant? The nausea has disappeared for me but I don't have any appetite. Would you be able to try any of those high protein meals that come in a drink form? I can't remember what they are called in UK - is it Complan? I thought last nights programme was better than the first one. They really got down to giving info on how people were being helped. All food for thought in moving away from conventional treatment. I am thinking of you and hoping you get a bit more energy tomorrow. Are you doing anything this weekend? I don't make plans in a wave so will just see how it goes. Love and hugs Flowers xxx
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  14. Flowers: Tapering Citalopram

    Hello Scorpio Oh Dear so sorry you have been wiped out for a couple of days. I am getting PGAD in this wave quite badly and have had some bladder problems too. I don't know if it is related but I have had lots of burning pain. I got a home test and it showed I had a lot of protein in my urine, no white cells or nitrates. So went to GP who is doing his own tests as he says it shows my kidneys are not working properly and until he gets the test results he doesn't know what is going on! Oh joy! So is it PGAD (which I don't think would cause the protein) or an infection or worse or some of both ?!!! It drives me to the end of my tether sometimes not knowing what is WD or what is 'normal' illnesses! How are your teeth today? So, I have been flat out on the sofa with a hot wheatie on my tummy. It is hard to cope but we never know how tomorrow will be. Like you say maybe a bit better for us both. Love and hugs from Flowers xxx
  15. I’m nearly a year into withdrawal after a cold turkey and my food sensitivities are getting worse. Sugar brings on immediate severe jittering, tremors, heart palpitations, and adrenaline rushes. I literally become a different person because I get a feeling of intense anger and feel like I’m losing my mind. This same strange reaction happens when I try supplements. I’m also suddenly sensitive to gluten and have bad bloating and diahreaa. This all makes me terrified to even eat because I’m unable to afford healthy food. I really hope this gets better soon! I’ve lost so much weight during withdrawal and I don’t wish to lose anymore.
  16. Flowers: Tapering Citalopram

    Hi Hopefull I don't like talking about the PGAD symptoms as am a bit embarrassed but as someone said to me there are no secrets here!! I think I had it very mildly when I changed my meds earlier this year from Cit to Venlafaxine. I usually only have it when in a wave and it comes and goes amongst other symptoms. This wave has been bad and PGAD too. I had some urinary symptoms which felt like an infection but after a home test shows increased protein. Saw my GP today who is doing further tests but am wondering if some of this can be put down to PGAD. Did you have bladder problems like burning and frequency? I know you have gone through so much with PGAD any information you have would be welcome. I am reassured that the pharmogenetic test gave you accurate results - I will get this done asap. Hope you are doing well yourself. Love from Flowers xxx
  17. Cheeky, I also have varying intensity throughout the day. Sometimes it cycles minute to minute which can be very confusing. Sometimes I can't figure out if I feel "normal" (a.k.a some kind of window).
  18. Flowers: Tapering Citalopram

    Hi flowers how are you doing, any improvement, I hope so. I’ve joined you and flat out for the past two days. Finding it very difficult to cope with all the horrible symptoms so I really sympathise hopefully tomorrow will be a better day for us both. Love scorpio
  19. Hi frogie’ hope you had a good time with your nutty neighbor and that you enjoy tonight’s Christmas party. Good to see brownie is feeling better and eating more. She’s a little fighter like her mum. Im still flat out waiting for relief from these horrible symptoms. Enjoy tonight scorpio
  20. Junglechicken

    Oh dear, thanks for making me laugh, Andy too!!!! TC, JC xxx
  21. Junglechicken

    I thought rabbits multiplied, but nothing like cats. Our renter says they are running through their yard, they are keeping the mice and bugs away there too! Hope the party goes well. Take care, Frogie xx
  22. Junglechicken

    Off to the nutty neighbors house. Just what I need today. Already nuts enough not seeing my therapist, but that's the way it goes. Take care, Frogie xx
  23. Junglechicken

    Too funny Frogie!! Sounds like you and your fiancé have a bit of a cat breeding operation going on, lol We fed the squirrels in our garden back in Calgary as it was SO cold outside - I mean who can resist a cute little fluffy creature with a bottle brush of a tail?! The trouble is they all got too fat to climb the trees...........also, we pissed off the neighbours! Hope you get through the party ok, know exactly how you feel about that. TC, JC xxx
  24. It's not uncommon for things to change minute by minute, hour by hour at times. The hard part is to recognize that it's happening and not let it trigger you into a spiral.
  25. Junglechicken

    Boy Andy you ate your Wheaties today didn't you? Or you are feeling better, I hope. I'm glad you still have your sence of humor, even through all of this. Read my post on my thread, you'll get a kick out of it. Take care, Frogie xx
  26. Junglechicken

    They are good luck. Everyone thinks the opposite. I'm glad your IBS has settled. Mine has until around 4 this afternoon, then it will start back up because of thinking about the party (I wrote a note on my thread). Wish me luck. My fiancé feeds the feral cats. We have I think I counted 12 kittens (6 months or so old) plus mom and dads. But we have no mice or bugs outside. They run when you go outside, so it's ok. It's 9:45am, Friday here, so I have about 8 hours until I act up again. Hopefully I won't during the party tonight, so embarrassing. Take care, Frogie xx
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