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  1. divewarm: Cymbalta

    (Moved from: Tips for tapering off Cymbalta Reading through this thread has been moderately terrifying. I've been taking 90mg for 11 years. I've tried various ways of tapering ... and nothing has worked. My pharmacy recently changed brands, and I've been having horrid side effects (similar to withdrawal symptoms). I'm super sensitive to any changes, and had resigned myself to being "addicted" for the rest of my life. I will definitely be following up with my physician on this particular taper method. Thank you!
  2. Cymsucks: Cymbalta

    INTRO: I'm on Cymbalta. Was on 60mg but now on 30mg. I WANT OFF. I plan to start my tapering journey as soon as I receive more info/ help from you because I don't understand why Cymbalta is making me feel certain ways. I want answers so bad. With this being said, yes I'm lost and I don't understand why this med does certain things to me but my new journey getting off starts now. Can someone explain exactly what a medicine like Cymbalta is and what it does. I feel totally lost right now. Can't sleep. Can't eat. It's like I'm taking meth 😢
  3. Lili: Benzo/AD

    Hi, I'm brand new here and I'm struggling. I had a rough 2017. I was put on Ativan for sleep 6/20/17 & then on temazapam 6/23/7- I didn't know they were both benzos. I tapered off Ativan for 2 months and what ensued was a horrific withdrawal scenario that landed me in a psych ward with extreme suicidal ideation. I was reinstated on Valium and pretty much stabilized by end of December 2017. I went off Lexapro in the fall as I didn't want to be on an antidepressant but was put on Cymbalta 11/2017 first at 30 mg, then 60mg 2 weeks later. I didn't know so I started dropping down at beginning of January , had some anxiety, restlessness, so I went back up to 50mg over the course of a few days. Presently, some insomnia, some irregular heart beats and lessening anxiety. My Dr doesn't know about my Cymbalta escapade & thinks I can microtaper my Valium now. I will have to be forthcoming at my next visit in 3 weeks. I'm so worried about stabilizing and how this is going to affect my taper.
  4. HI Guys. Don't have the best update. In August of 2017 I suddenly aquired w/d based akathesia and hysteria. I also took some OTC stuff like MMJ, Reserpine, and Kratom due to the horrific w/d symptoms I was having. It was a worng thing to do but instead of stopping/holding, I just looked for alternatives that were dangerous. At the time, my ND MD was not being helpful at all and so wasn't my psychoanalyst. I felt at breaking point and the Apathy, Lack of Desire, Depression, Anxiety, Restlessness, Fear of maddness, etc, was SO hugh, I just was becoming suicidal. I actually phoned my ND MD and the office was trying to get me calm (The a*hole doctor NEVER came to the phone) but to no avail. After a while, I started feeling really suicidal and called 911 to take me to Mt' Sinai in NYC. Bad choice but I felt my life is over Of course, once there I was medicated as you can see in my signature and even given a round of ECT (will put in sig). I was released after a FULL month and felt better just to flip into a strong Apathetic adohenic state. I can lay in bed for hours, days, and care about nobody or anything. I took a cortisol saliva test and Urine Neurotransmitter (NT) test, which showed my morning very low, early after noon, ok, later afternoon, very high, at night, even higher. Based on th NT testing it showed ALL my NT at the low levels. Interesting, being on SSRI SNRI serotonin should be elevated or at least normal. I guess it depletes the stores. After long story, I'm working with Natropath and did a 93 food sensitivity test, showing COrn, GLuten, Milk, Almonds, Eggs being a problem. I also take Magnesium threonate, Seriphos (for cortisol), theanine/gaba combo, liposonal C capsule, VItamin D 5000, and Tryptophan 500mg at night. She tols me Tryptophan OK since my NT was low (33 vs 50 normal range). I find that my lethargy and adohenia is so bad that I still have difficulty getting out of bed or doing anything. It is so hard to even help myself. I find that all things I enjoyed are now bland. I also cannot taper now because I'm not ready and my mind is fuc*ed up do to med changes. Any help is appreciated. I feel like I'll stay like this forever. My kids need me, I need me, the world needs me. I'm not working at all. I'm doing CBT therapy but my motivation is so low that I'm not following and even missing appointments. Please anybody????
  5. I beat withdrawal and in the process I beat a depression that had been plaguing me for half my life. I’ve been meaning to share my story for sometime now but have failed to take the time to do so. When I was in the thick of it back in 2016 I heavily utilized this site for answers, for comfort, and for inspiration. Unfortunately there don’t seem to be a lot of success stories but I am proud to say I am one. It was quite a daunting task writing this all down, I swear I could write a novel based on my experience with depression and antidepressants. Irregardless I hope my story can help encourage those currently in the midst of withdrawal just as stories I had read on this site encouraged me during my withdrawal. I am a 27 year old man and I took antidepressants from 2010 to early 2016. My first year was on Zoloft and the next five years were on Effexor 150mg. Depression entered my life around the age of 13 and it more or less stayed there up until recently. Sure there were periods of time where it subsided but eventually I would always return to my depressed default state. When I was about 13 my father died unexpectedly, a few years later my grandfather was murdered. My teenage years were very lonely. Affected by the deaths and trying to understand my sexuality pushed me into a state of isolation, it was during this time where I developed a very strong pornograghy addiction. Rather than talk about my issues through friends and therapy I chose to keep them hidden and use medication to do the work for me. Soon after starting college I got on Zoloft. It suited me, I felt calm and content but I craved something more stimulating. I had previously been prescribed adderall, but I recognized the ill effects it had on my personality so I stopped taking it. The campus doctor recommended Effexor, he said I might find it to be more stimulating. Therefore without question I took the prescription and worked my way up to 150mg where I would remain the next 5 years. During this time I was also taking ambien nightly, and between these two drugs I was able block out any of the persistent issues that were bothering me. I was numb. Years later I was living in a house with two very supportive roommates. These two guys would become my best friends and for the first time in my life I actually opened up about the things that truly bothered me. I also finally decided to get into therapy. In retrospect I could see that I was not actually happy on the antidepressants. I was just going through the motions, numb to the good and numb to the bad. I could see my growing disconnect from people. Up until those roommates I didn’t have close friends, I wasn't dating, and I certainly wasn’t having sex. I was almost 25 and still a virgin. The antidepressants removed the desire to be intimate with people, I was living in perpetual loneliness. So in January of 2016 I made the decision I was getting off Effexor and that was that. As with most doctors, my doctor had no idea how to get me off. There are no established plans to get people off of antidepressants, once your on them your expected to stay on them. So every two weeks I would half the dosage, and at the lowest dosage I was to take it every other day. That was completely idiotic as Effexor only has a 12 hour half life, essentially I would be playing ping pong with my brain chemistry. Fortunately I did not follow that last part of the plan but I did get off too quickly. After five years on the drug, six weeks is not long enough to get completely off. My first day off of Effexor was also my first day on a one month solo trip through South America which was during my birthday month when I would be turning 25. The trip was fantastic but it gave me a false sense of security as to what life would be like without the drug. While traveling you are processing so much new information and your brain is naturally producing tons of dopamine through all these new experiences therefore I was not accurately feeling what real withdrawal would feel like. I had some minor headaches the first week of the trip but that was really it. By the time the trip ended I thought life without antidepressants was going to be a piece of cake, boy was I wrong. When I came back it was time to face reality, and I had to do so without relying on Effexor. We were moving from our house, my two awesome roommates were going their separate ways and I was on my own. On top of that I had a very important all consuming project at work to figure out. My anxiety was through the roof. I had a prescription for Ativan that I used very sparingly to get me through, but the anxiety was so bad I thought I needed a more permanent solution. I had to do whatever it took to get through this move and this project so I went back to the doctor to try a different antidepressant. He put me on Lexapro, I believe it was only 5mg but I could feel it instantly. I was finding I was hypersensitive to everything now. I was only able to tolerate Lexapro for 5 days because on the fifth day I was contemplating suicide. Whatever fire I had inside me that had always gotten me through the tough **** felt extinguished and I just wanted to die. I ended up going back to Effexor only taking 10 or so beads from the capsule, just that small amount made a tremendous difference in my anxiety. I did this until I had settled into a new place and my project was complete. While my anxiety was calmed my emotions were neutralized and my libido was extinguished. These were the exact reasons I got off in the first place so I knew I had to stick with the plan of staying off for good. Things were calming down but I was very depressed and had a complete lack of motivation. I was trying a lot of things like B-vitamins, Magnesium, L-theanine, and Fish Oil. I could feel some benefit from each of them but after a few days I would be back in my depression. I had very low energy and I was sensitive to everything. Just eating bread would make me feel terrible even though I had no apparent gluten intolerance previously. It was around this time a good friend of mine talked me into doing Improv. I thought it was crazy but I had nothing left to lose. So even at my worst I did Improv and I also continued training in the martial art Krav Maga. No matter how bad I felt I would show up and make a fool of myself in Improv or hit the **** out of something in Krav. I always felt much relief whenever I did either and I credit both of those activities to helping me beat my depression in the long run. I opened up a lot to my friends and family about what was going on in my head, and whenever my anxiety felt high I would challenge myself into doing something that made me uncomfortable. I performed on stage, I did sparring at my gym, I went on dates with guys, and I opened up to my Mom about my sexuality. My motto was “oh you think you’re anxious now? Wait till you do this!” While all these lifestyle changes helped build up my confidence I still struggled to find relief from my depression. I thoroughly researched the neurotransmitters and what vitamins and supplements help support what. I determined that my issues seemed to lie with Dopamine. So I went back to my doctor to get on Wellbutrin. I was not happy about throwing in the towel again but I also wasn’t ultimately finding relief. I was open to Wellbutrin because it supposedly did not have as severe of sexual side effects. I started taking it and I actually felt pretty damn good. Unfortunately I also broke out in hives. So it was back to the drawing board. I tried St. John’s wort and SAM-e, neither of those did anything. Finally I tried L-Tyrosine, this seemed to make the biggest difference. Like I hypothesized, my problem stemmed from dopamine and L-Tyrosine is a precursor in the creation of dopamine. While I found some relief, it was very finicky. Taking too much made me feel like I was going to have a heart attack, too little of course did nothing at all. It was also very easily influenced by the digestive process so it was hard to find consistency and consistency was what I needed as I was about to hop on a very stressful 6 week project. I threw in the towel again this time looking at Cymbalta. I had read that it was less likely to cause the sexual side effects that Effexor does. It was true, I found my libido did not seem to suffer as badly however I downright felt badly. I felt achy, my head hurt, I felt dehydrated, and I was terrified to force my body to adjust to this seemingly toxic drug. I knew that I had no intentions of staying on antidepressants my whole life therefore if Cymbalta feels this harsh to adjust to in the beginning then I can only imagine what it would feel like to get off of. This whole withdrawal process shook me to my core. While I was desperate to find relief so that I could function at work I also knew that I never wanted to withdrawal from an antidepressant again. I tossed the Cymbalta and I went back to taking a few beads of the Effexor. Once again I felt relief but once again my libido vanished as did my emotions. The most striking difference I noticed once I was back on the Effexor had to do with a coworker. I had a thing for one of the girls I was working with and I knew she felt similarly. Whenever she smiled at me I could feel an electricity rush through my body. When I got back on Effexor and she smiled at me, I felt nothing. That was it, that was the straw that broke the camel’s back. I could be depressed, anxious, and barely able to function but I was not going to lose the feeling of being human. I was not going to lose feeling a connection with someone, caring about someone, and I sure as hell was not going to lose my libido, not at 25. Antidepressants were out, I had to find another way. That’s when I discovered a different form of L-Tyrosine called N-Actetyl-L-Tyrosine, this form is less affected by digestion and crosses the blood brain barrier more easily. It took a lot of experimentation with how to dose the N-Acetyl-L-Tyrosine. It caused a lot of headaches but it was relieving my depression and anxiety. Finally I developed a regimen that included several of the vitamins I had previously tried that offered relief but couldn’t fix the problem as a whole. My regimen consisted of a B-complex, Fish oil, Vitamin C, and Vitamin D during the day; at night I would take Magnesium, melatonin, and every other night 150mg of N-Acetyl-L-Tyrosine. After 6 months of suffering and countless experimentation I finally found stability again with my own personal regimine. I more or less stayed on this particular plan for a year, and the extreme depression and anxiety stayed away. I had never felt better because I was actually feeling everything like a human being should. I was also very in tune with my emotions, as soon as I felt depressing thoughts creeping in I would identify them and root out what may be causing them. I continued challenging myself with the improv, krav maga, and anything else that my old self would swear I could never do. I also continued therapy and being open and honest with those around me. I beat the depression that had been plaguing me the majority of my life. I didn’t stay on that particular set of vitamins and supplements indefinitely, I started dropping things along the way. After about a year the N-Acetyl-L-Tyrosine started acting finicky again, I was suffering headaches similar to when I first got on it. I ended up dropping the Tyrosine several months ago and instead started experimenting with Rhodiola Rosea. So far it has been working well. If the Rhodiola Rosea stops working I’ll try something else, the important thing is that my mindset has changed. I’m extremely self aware, I’ve accomplished so many things I thought I could never do, and I know that I no longer need antidepressants to function. Depression will always be something I will battle but I’m finally now in the driver's seat and I am not going to give up my spot so easily this time. Withdrawal is horrible but its an important process in forming a new and better self. Just because L-Tyrosine and Rhodiola Rosea have helped me doesn’t mean they will help everyone. It took a lot of trial and error to find what seemed to click. Ultimately it was challenging myself, being honest and open with those around me, and learning mindfulness that truly brought me into the light. I hope my story can provide some ray of hope for all of you out there in the thick of it. It can be done. It’s not the end of the world to reinstate just know what your ultimate goals are and stick to them.
  6. Hi everyone. In July I finished a 1-year slow taper of Cymbalta. I was prescribed it for depression and chronic pain. I decided after being on antidepressants for more than 25 years, and dealing with horrendous side effects, that I wanted to go off of them. I initially tapered per doctor’s orders, stepping down in 10-mg increments every 2 weeks from 60 mg to 30 mg, which was too rapid. Then I found advice to do no more than 10% reductions a minimum of 2 weeks at a time. That’s what I did for a year. I dealt with bad withdrawal during the taper. Brain zaps, anxiety, sweating, cognitive issues, etc. Now, more than 5 months have passed and I still suffer from depression and anxiety, and I’ve gotten back chronic neck pain. I’m going to counseling but it’s having minimal effect. I’m also seeing a functional medicine doctor and doing all I can to heal without drugs. However, I feel utterly hopeless and broken. Can I be relatively mentally healthy eventually? Or am I doomed to requiring antidepressants? Every day is so difficult. I’m barely able to take care of myself and do my job. Thank you, ”Hurting”
  7. Hello everyone. I'll try to organize this as best as I can. There is a lot going on. I was on benzos from age 17 to 36 and on Cymbalta from age 35 to 36. Went off both together for a 2 year nightmare. Absolute pure hell. I wont get into the details and symptoms of that withdrawal in this post as it is it's own little novel. Some things improved during those 2 years and I feel I've beat the benzo part of the nightmare even still, but at age 38 I was still suffering enough that I agreed to go on Lexapro to see if I'd improve. I did improve hugely but it stopped working as well after 3 years and I was switched to Prozac. I have taken the Prozac ever since and it felt like it was failing around 4 months ago. I missed a lot of doses around 3 months ago and just tried to stop CT for just over a week around a month and a half ago. I started feeling withdrawals so I went back on and the withdrawal feeling is still getting worse. My memory and focus went first, then the inner restlessness and anxiety started and dizziness. I am also having the disconnected dream like feeling 24-7. I am so depressed and fearful all of the time. I've been taking the Prozac without missing a dose for over a month again and this is still happening to me. It's as if the combo of Prozac tolerance and coming off for the short time has started a withdrawal that even going back on can't stop. My doctor wants to take me off the Prozac after a slow taper and start me back on the Lexapro. The hope is that since it worked before and I've been off of it for almost 3 years that it could pick me back up and end this nightmare I'm back in. I am really considering just tapering the Prozac and staying off all ssris; so no going back on Lexapro in that case. I am so afraid of entering back into a nightmare like a was in coming off benzos and Cymbalta. My current state is terrible but the previous experience was truly worse; being benzos and Cymbalta together. It is really hard t say what withdrawal symptoms were coming from which pill. There were so many. I am so terrified of how I am feeling right now, but mostly for the days to come. If I come off the Prozac entirely I know my current state will worsen. I will be thrown back into a situation similar to the first nightmare. If I taper the Prozac and go back on Lexapro and it actually works, I'll still be doomed because I'll be back on another pill waiting for it to stop working again and most likely going through it all again. If I go back on the Lexapro and it doesn't work I will just aggravate my current symptoms with throwing more chemicals on my already hurting brain. The first time around withdrawal I had terrible akathisia and I am already feeling it brewing and I am still on the Prozac. I don't want to go through this again! Also from what I've been experiencing this month it seems a lot of what I assumed were due to the benzos were possibly due to the Cymbalta withdrawal as it's so similar. Also, I forgot to mention that I am on 500 mg of Depakote XR as well. I was put on this a couple of months after the Prozac as I felt a bit agitated. It helped but I got worried about my liver and quit it after 4 or five months and had a mild withdrawal from that but it passed. Just a couple of weeks ago after my current situation started I went back on the Depakote to see if it would help and it hasn't. I'll most likely be stopping it again as well. I had an account on Benzo Buddies during that ordeal and it gave me an outlet and some hope. I've set this account up here and got my story out in advance as I am leaning towards just stopping the meds and I'll be needing all of the support I can get! I'm seeing my doctor on January 3 so whatever I decide to do it will be starting then.
  8. Hi there, I am wanting some information on how to withdraw or at the least reduce my medications. I was initially put on lexipro for 3 months in nov 2015, it made me a lot worse and I was taken off it and put on Risperdal 1mg and cymbalta 120mg January 2016. I stayed on this for a year with slight improvement and then in December 2016 my psychiatrist reduced my rispiradol to 0.5 when I complained about oversleeping weight gain and lingering mental illness, within 2 weeks this made me very edgy and unsettled so she increased it back to 1mg and said I might have to be on it forever, she then added 30mg mirtazipine. I have been on these 3 for the last year. I am terrified of going back to how I was but I also do not like the side effects or simply being on drugs. Im hesitant to seek advise from the same psychiatrist as the last time I went there she wanted to put me on a mood stabilizer which was March 2017 I never went back... any advise please? Thank you x
  9. Hello all, My name is Eric, I am a 26 year old male from Boston living in Texas. I have a wonderful fiance whom will be marrying me in 8 months, and 2 beautiful scottish terriers in a home north of Dallas. Approximately 5 years ago, I was diagnosed with Generalized Anxiety Disorder after a panic attack. I was living in a crummy part of Boston with 3 people I didn't like, and I had suffered a panic attack from intense stomach pains - something I am particularly sensitive about. I slept on the bathroom floor that whole night, praying I would not vomit. The next morning, my stomach pain went away - but that underlying fear from last night did not; the fight or flight response in my brain would not go away. This had never happened to be beofre - I've had minor panic attacks from stress, but those always subsided once the panic attack ended. Never before did I have persistent anxiety from the moment I woke up to the very end of the day. I couldn't stand even a week of feeling that way - so I sought help. Long background story short, I sought a therapist, NP to be exact, who put me on Cymbalta. We started at 30 mg for one week, then 60 mg the next week. Folks, it was absolutely awful going onto cymbalta - insomnia, increased anxiety, depression, lack of appetite - I felt like I was dying, and could not stop crying the whole week. Once the 60 mg kicked in, I started to feel better. Once I started a new routine, changed my lifestyle to eat healthy, and exercise frequently, I felt much better. Heck, I became a totally different person confident, happy, and willing to takes chances with my life where previous anxiety held me back. Here I am 5 years later, a huge journey from 21 years old, in college, and trying to find my purpose in life for a career. I made it through rough employment stretches out of college, relocation multiple times, entering surviving, and withdrawing from law school after 1 year, and finding a career I love. That is, until the anxiety came back. It was something stressful at work that triggered my anxiety - which lead to my achilles heel of constantly worrying with "what if" statements. It go so bad, I went to my primary care doctor, and was told to try 90mg of cymbalta before trying to switch. So i did that, and in addition to that, I began to exercise vigoursly again - which I stopped doing 2 years ago due to budgetary constraints for a gym membership & dedication to my job. This seemed to do the trick after a few weeks, and I made it all the way to September feeling almost 100% better. Well, more life stresses occurred - and I felt like I was back to square one again. September was hard, grueling and unforgiving on my anxiety, which only got worse thinking what i did in the past must not be working - will I stuck feeling like this forever? At this point, I simply began associating my anxiety elevations with events that occurred - like being bored on weekends is a trigger, as well as my job performance. Exercise just wasn't as fun & exciting as it was before, and my responsibilities to my job & family prevent me from going the 1-2 hours for 5 days a week as i used to do. I began seeing a Psychiatrist in early October, who recommended I go up to 120 mg of Cymbalta before trying a new AD, and to seek a therapist for CBT-type therapy. In the meantime, I would have access to /5 mg of ativan for panic attacks. Well needless to say, the 120mg of Cymbalta did not work - in fact, it made my anxiety worse. Probably too much of the drug, as cymbalta tended to have a stimulating effect when it was working. I tried a therapist out for the month - but we simply didnt connect enough. Come November, I said enough was enough for Cymbalta - and began a cross taper off Cymbalta & onto Zoloft. Of course, this timing is mid November, which lines up with 2 very stressful holidays - Thanksgiving & Christmas. Left with little choices, I decided this would be the path I take to recovery. Thus far? it's had ups & downs. 120 mg to 90 mg of cymbalta was paired with 50 mg of zoloft. No real issues besdies mild gastro issues with Zoloft. once i dropped from 90 mg to 60 mg of Cymbalta? far more anxiety, headaches, depression - it was bad. I felt much better the 3rd week, when I began taking 100mg of Zoloft. This ultimately did not last, as I felt the drug leveling out during my struggles with work stress & the stillness/boredom of the weekend. As of now, I am down to 30mg of Cymbalta, and up to 125 mg on the Zoloft. I felt much better the 1st week on this level - but due to christmas stresses, weekend triggers, and who knows what else - I simply have gone from high to low. As long as I keep myself busy, I seem to be fine - but my axiety gets the best of me when I am bored & not oligated with a task in front of me. My next drop is being debated between 30 mg to 20 mg of Cymbalta - I am unsure about going for another 25 mg on zoloft will occur. What I know is - I am afraid nothing will work. Alot of message boards on this topic are filled with gloom and doom about their situations. I struggle to remain hopeful, but I am afraid to put my hope out there for fear of failure. From an objective perspective, it would seem my situation is a case of Cymbalta poop out, with a bumpy transition off of Cymbalta & onto Zoloft. When the Zoloft worked, it felt amazing - I felt like myself again. I just get tired of losing that feeling everytime I have more anxiety. Ativan helps, but I try not to use it as much as possible, for fear of building a tolerance. Through CBT, I am better able to identify my negative thought patterns, and counter them with a more rational approach. However, I still struggle with my lack of toleration for uncertainty, and lack of answers to my questions about all of this. I thank you all who took the time to read this, and I hope your insight can be bring me some hope & clarity. -Eric
  10. i everyone:I have been tapering from a benzodiazepine for almost a year and now am ready to undertake the antidepressants. I guess some people say do the antidepressants first but its too late for that now. I am almost done with my benzo taper. I am copying my first entry from Benzo buddies here because the history is the same Current cocktail: 60 mg Cymbalta, 150 mg Wellbutrin SR, and .090 mg of Klonopin (Benzo). I won't bore you with too many details but I think an abridged version is in order. I was first put on a cocktail of Klonopin, Wellbutrin, and Cymbalta over 12 years ago. I had been on SSRI's for 15 years at this point. The Pdoc said this would help with anxiety and never mentioned a word about dependence, addiction or withdrawal. He continued to prescribe for the next three years till he fired me for missing appointments. My next three pdocs said nothing other than it was hard to get off but it had no negative side effects. One said I might need to stay on the rest of my life, after all it's cheap! My GP refused to offer opinions and would not prescribe psychotropic meds.Meanwhile my marriage was falling apart and it was getting harder and harder to do my job.In June 2014, a friend referred me to a Lyme doctor who had a great rep. He spent an hour talking to me and then said he wanted to do about $1200 worth of testing. Result? I definitely had Lyme disease and I spent the next 2-1/2 years doing antibiotics and herbal protocols to kill the Lyme. At the end of this, I still had most of symptoms and had almost been fired and then went on Long Term disability in late 2015. SSA denied me but my company had a private plan (I know I am blessed here). To the Lyme Doctors credit he had said initially that I should try to get off Benzos and he took me from 1 mg down to .75 mg in one cut. I then started seeing a number of homeopaths, naturopaths and other quacks. I got a new Pdoc and asked him to help me taper off K. I just had this feeling.....Fine, he said. Why don't you go from .75 mg down to .5 mg, the tablets are hard to cut more than that. Yes sir, I said in my most humble voice. Well, I am sure you all know how that went. I reinstated to .6875 mg (or therabouts) after 3 weeks of hell. By this time, I had found the ashton manual, and benzobuddies. When I asked him to slow the taper, he said he didn't know how. I finally found an oral K pill on my own that was .125 mg. He graciously gave me one month's worth. I begged for Valium. And, no way, he said, through his assistant. I have quit him and have another appointment with somehow who actually is familiar with Ashton in Late June.It is now over 2 months later. I am have ordered supplies for a liquid taper. My major symptoms haven't changed much and are brain fog, memory issues, severe fatigue, unrefreshing sleep, and muscle spasms (which got better after reinstating). I am also grouchy which explains why I am alone a lot. I try to be pleasant and avoid the topic of Benzos, but it is hard.I did two dry cuts and am now down to .53125 mg. (or therabouts). Symptoms have been simply outrageous and I have been holding for 1-1/2 months.I have no idea what the new Pdoc will do, so I am going to try very small cuts using water titration next. Still with K. What a wonder drug! It worked for all of 4 weeks back in 2005.Well, thats my story and I am sticking to it. Would love to get to know some of you. I listen well and I actually have other interests. I just don't get out as much anymore.Blessings,
  11. Hi everyone, I'm in a pretty desperate state. Over the past couple of months, I very slowly tapered off 60mg (1x a day) of Cymbalta, 5-10 beads at a time. I felt great during the taper. Then a few days after my last dose, I began to experience diarrhea and anxiety. I waited ten days to see if the withdrawal symptoms would improve, but the anxiety became so severe that in order to function at my new job, I decided to go back on the Cymbalta at 20mg/day. A few hours after taking that first dose, my symptoms went away. But in less than 24 hours, they were back. So I decided to go up to 20mg 2x a day, which I've been doing for the past two days. The problem is that the dose seems to wear off in 8-10 hours, and I'm left with crippling anxiety and stomachaches between doses, and zero appetite. I've started to take 0.25mg of Xanax to bridge the doses, but I don't want to be doing that. (FYI, I am still on 200mg of Wellbutrin XL and not planning on doing anything with that just yet.) What should I do? I'm reluctant to increase my dosage back to 60mg/day, both because I don't want to go up too fast but also because I really, really want to get off this drug and I worked so hard on that initial taper. And why did 60mg (and even much less than that during the taper) just once a day work fine but now I can't even get through 10 hours of 20mg without needing another dose? I'm so terrified that I've wrecked my brain with this stuff and I'll never be able to get off it. I'm wondering if I will need to give up this job - the anxiety makes me feel like I'm trapped in a box and I'm completely useless. I would be so grateful for any advice. Thank you. Laura
  12. Hello, my name is Manny. I was diagnosed 0CD and schizophrenic in 2008, but I been taking benzos and amiptriptiline since 2005. Currently,taking abilify 20mg,risperidone 2mg,cymbalta 60mg,biperiden 4mg. I am tapering klonopin down to 0,27mg from a dose of 1,25mg. I went to see my doctor this week because a blood test that I did. He said my hepatic transaminases are high because of the medication that I take. I am assuming the APs that I take. What can I do to get my liver function well? I know, quitting the APs, but I can t cold turkey. Any advice,please.
  13. 8 months ago I was on. Primidone 500mg Vraylar 6mg Cymbalta 120mg Zoloft 200mg Clonezapam 2mg My kidney function had dropped to 42% and a certain NP for a award winning psychologist continued treatment after noticing major muscle movement disorder. After a few months of this she stopped vraylar 6mg cold turkey. I had a reaction within days of cognitive impairment. I could not handle ANY external input. For a month I could only stare at the ceiling in total darkness and no sound. No TV and food had to be something I could grab and eat in bed in the dark. I lost 40lbs in 3mo because of stomach issues and me being unable to get food for myself. When I confronted her about my problems she informed me it could not be medicine related and sent me to see her friend a counceller who agreed with her and added that my condition was totally " behavioral " I was still on everything except vraylar. That is when I started doing some research and quit seeing both doctors. I had a genesight survey which NP had access to that listed 3 meds she had me on as a high risk and I am a poor drug metabolizer. In the drug interaction checker I showed her 5 serious interactions which she ignored. I was in a state of total apathy, did not care if I lived or died. I could not find any help in the psychologist field. I could not even manage to keep myself fed or handle phone or internet. I begged several times a Dr I had seen before her to help me but she would not accept me as a new patient. Finally after 50 calls my mom had to make...because no doctors were accepting new patients or they did not take my insurance....i got an appointment with an neurologist/psychologist I had seen before. He was amazed the amount of medications I was on and recommended I start coming off them. However he could not manage my taper but did recommended a taper that I followed. I finally got into see a local psychologist who agreed on taper....which was basically drop one at a time by half every 2 weeks. Way to fast I believe after reading your site. I cannot get anyone to answer what happened to me. It's now been 7mos and I can at least type and watch tv.....i still have crippling anxiety and depression. I have came off Cymbalta, vraylar, zoloft, and halfed clonezapam. But I'm still having horrible symptoms I never had before. I've been on at least 12 antidepressants and antipsychotic medications over the past 8yrs for bipolar. Before that I was on nothing for 10 years with no problems. I did have issues in my teens. But it's been downhill ever since I had a nervous breakdown due to extreme stress that lasted years 8 years ago and I started trusting doctors that I needed medication. I had to go on disability 5 years ago due to medication side effects. Before the pills started I had a successful career and ran half marathons. I am thinking about contacting a lawyer. Does anyone have experience with such a drug combo, how long this will last? What happened? Or if seeing a lawyer may be a good idea?
  14. I’ve been taking anti-depressants and a mood stabilizer for 20+ years. I want to wean off duloxetine first. I’ve experienced horrible withdrawal symptoms when I failed to get a refill about 3 years ago. After about 2 days not taking duloxetine I was in full blown withdrawal and it was a flipping nightmare. That experience led me to believe I would never be able to not use the drug. I am to the point of being tired of dry mouth, dry eye, constipation and sweating. This may not be a good time to wean as I’m planning my daughter’s wedding for next fall and going to school part time. I will be 59 in 2018. Finding this forum is a godsend for me and hope I can be active even if I’m unable to start a taper right away. I’m really scared that I will never feel like the self I was before taking these drugs. I’m not even sure if I remember, which is even scarier and causes some anxiety if I focus on it too much. Thanks.
  15. Let me start out by saying that I realize no one will have an actual answer for me on this one. Regardless, I do appreciate any opinions others may want to give. My nervous system has been running itself into the ground for years with it's beyond ridiculous reactions to simple everyday things. Everything is a threat it would seem. Temperature changes that are too abrupt, such as when I emerge from the shower, will induce agitation, exhaustion, and a general "wigged out" feeling. Eating is unacceptable to my system, apparently, along with light, sound, social interactions, driving (longer than an hour and I am out of it for the rest of the day), reading, and sleeping (this is heavily protested for some reason). Things improve slightly if I avoid socializing, only expose myself to natural light, severely limit time listening to music or watching t.v./youtube videos, slowly go about activities and rest in between "sets," and eat as little as possible. If I keep this going I know a bit of peace for a time. The very second that I need to interact, run an errand, what have you...I'm right back in the horror show. Feels as though an electric fence has been put up between me and living now. I have more hope and enthusiasm for moving forward when I convince myself that however long this has been going on, it can still be thought of as temporary. That all I need do is calm my nerves and my brain and body will regain their tolerance to stress. This feels more often like wishful thinking, though. Deep down I am more convinced that this is the way I am now, and nothing that I do will change it. I can hold off stress (or what's seen as stress, rather), attempt to avoid it, but I will never again be able to withstand it.
  16. Hi fellow members. I took Trazodone and Cymbalta for over a decade. These drugs were prescribed by my family doctor for neuro-muscular pain and related difficulty sleeping. (The real cause of the pain was ruptured discs in my back but I didn't learn that until I'd been on these drugs for years.) I've tried to get off of both drugs several times but all doctors did in the past was give me the next lower dose of each drug, which didn't work, and just drove me right back to my previous regular dosages. Well, thanks to tappering info I learned from this discussion group, I've been off both for about a month. The problem is that my withdrawal symptoms are seemingly getting worse. so, I could use some coping advice. The biggest problem is dizziness, or I should say passing out in my case. The week I finished the taper for both drugs (about a month ago) I passed out and gave myself a mild concussion when my head hit the floor. I was in a classroom setting so they sent me to the emergency room in an ambulance. They ran lots of tests at the hospital, all of which all came back normal. I thought the fainting was a one-time occurrence. Yesterday, I passed out again and hit my head, again. I was at home so my husband didn't take me to the hospital as the lump on my head wasn't too bad. Other symptoms of withdrawal I'm having include irritability, anger, depression and even suicidal thoughts. I've never had a problem with any of those things before so I'm naturally frightened. I've tried medical marijuana for these symptoms but have figured out (I think) that they were making my sudden drops in blood pressure, aka dizziness, worse. Does that make sense to anyone? I still haven't found a doctor who would/could help me with these symptoms. At this point I don't know if I should keep looking or not. I live in rural Arizona so expert doctors, if they existed on this topic, aren't plentyful. Today I looked at The Road Back Program's anti-depressant withdrawal supplements and found a link to this discussion group's moderator who said not to waist money on them. It felt really good to get objective advice from the moderator. I just need more practical advice, especially about the sudden drops in blood pressure. I'm feeling afraid to drive my car. Is there something I can do to better manage the dizziness. Can these symptoms really last years?!
  17. I can't remember ever being happy. I never felt like I fit in and relationships were hard to foster. I felt like an outcast, drawing on my musical and visual influences to drive home that point. Listening to Blind Melon I had my first suicide attempt. After that in 2008 I was put on 20mg of Prozac (medicine is right but dose could have been a little higher, it was a long time ago). From there I stayed on Prozac until 2010 and stayed medication free until my anxiety became so crippling that I couldn't walk in a gym around acquaintances in 2012. Then, I was put on Bupropion which was a huge failure and then Paxil, which I stuck with Until 2014 before it's effects dwindled. During that time my depression became unbearable and I couldn't be by myself without crying. I had to leave school my senior year for 3 months and reset everything, return to therapy and look for a new medication. Eventually mid-way through my freshman year of college at the I was given cymbalta at the end of 2014. i thought I finally found it. While there was ups and downs the cymbalta helped tremendously, I almost went off pills completely near the end of 2016, and then extra stresses forced me to try extra Wellbutrin with a cymbalta dose increase. This was a disaster and caused a breakdown and second suicide attempt which landed me in the hospital. The doctor switched me to 75 mg Effexor and it did ok for awhile but my anxiety was through the roof. After two months it was too much and my doc added 300mg gabapentin 3x a day. This is kind of worked for a month and a half before I started to lose my energy, have the racing beating down thoughts and the loss of interest again. Last month the doc tried upping my Effexor to 100 with disasterous results. Now I feel stuck. Its not normal to wake up with no energy and a loss of interest in anything. Have i I been on pills too long? Do I need to take SSRIs or Tricyclate? Tricyclate deal with atypical depression, which fits well due to my inconsistent mood and spiraling ups and downs. Im not bi polar, but one doc said I have characteristics of personality disorder, which would explain the "high" highs and "low" lows. I just need help. Im a semester away from graduating and I don't want to take a pause right before the finish line. I'm a leader in most of my major studies clubs and a well-liked person on campus living in one of the most popular houses at school. Why am I so sad? I just need advice. Get on new pills, get off pills, what pills worked well temporarily. At this point, I just want to get by. Please help me.
  18. Salutations. I'll get right down to it. Apologies, this'll be long. I'm trying to get off of Cymbalta 60mg after a repeat of my experiences on it the first time. That's right, this is my second time on the drug after an extended absence of being drug-free. I guess I'll start with that. In both cases of being on Cymbalta, the first 3 months were pretty great in terms of energy and general emotions. Not in terms of side effects, but will get to that later. Then, after those 3 months, comes the slow progression of what I call the period of "nothing" - no positive or negative emotional feelings, but the side effects are there. So it feels like I'm taking a placebo with side effects. Then around the 8-9 month mark, it feels like I'm taking a pill that makes me more depressed than I initially was with side effects. First time around, I was at 30mg for those first 3 months and they bumped it up to 60mg, which extended things by a few weeks, but I still bottomed out. Second time, they bumped me up within 2 weeks (which was an incredibly brutally short time span in terms of side effects but I suffered through it). Still same bottoming out. What made me want to stop the first time was less the issue of it not particularly working but right around the time it began to seriously bottom out I had a life situation change and lost my insurance. With prescription cost being hilariously unaffordable after that, I really had no choice. I was able to secure 2 months of 30mg from my psych and didn't taper from 60mg down to 30mg at all; just started taking the 30 for two months, then went cold turkey. That sucked for about three weeks of my life and I decided then and there I wouldn't go back on it. Fast forward about 6 months, something triggered my depression in a bad way and I ended up in the psych's office again. It was determined that I'd be put back on Cymbalta, which I was hesitant about, but the way my new insurance worked in order to get a referral for therapy covered I needed to work through with the psych. Alternative doctors were limited with massive wait periods and I felt the therapy was worth the drug prescription. So gave it another go. Now here I am, nauseous, can't sleep, sweating in 50-60 degree weather, exhausted, 20lb weight gain, but also feeling like balling my eyes out and hopeless. Worse than when I went into the doc to get relief. What was interesting is that for nearly the whole 6 months off of Cymbalta last year I felt great, like I never needed it in the first place. Heck, I didn't even need to change my lifestyle and the weight I had gained the first time on it literally melted off me with no effort and stayed off me. Two weeks ago I thought because I could drop from 30 to nothing I could do the same at 60 to nothing. Tried toughing it out for a week, oh my god. Never again. I might as well have been dying. So, I have to taper, but my doctor isn't convinced enough to give me a lower dose...so some Google searching about later and here I am.
  19. I have been on antidepressants since the age of 12. Have tried nearly everyone out there with minimal success. Finding that they don't affect my mood/ overall general happiness anymore and want off. They make me feel numb and zombie like with little ability to enjoy life. I've been on 30mg Cymbalta for the last few months and have been trying to tapper off. I knew the side effects of withdrawal can be horrendous as I've tried in the past with no success. This time I decided I would take 1/4 of the beads from the capsule a week and as long as I didn't feel too many intense effects I would continue until I was off them. I was doing great! 5 days in and I hadn't noticed a single side effect. Then at work last night on the 7th day it was like I was hit by a bus. Spinning, dizzy, headache, nauseated, strange strange sensations and ultimately sicker then a dog. I ended up having to have someone bring me gravol which I popped two in less than hr (usually only take a quarter if absolutely necessary). The nausea has subsided slightly but I'm still extremely dizzy with a pounding headache, with the lovely side effect of extreme drowsiness from the gravol. I'm wondering if anyone knows what my next step should be and whether or not I need to increase the dose a bit. Yesterday I didn't take my dose until later in the day and I'm hoping this is the reason why I felt such extreme effects, as I hadn't been noticing anything at all prior. Looking for any helpful suggestions, tips, or support. Thank you!
  20. Hello, I'm new here but have come across this forum via looking for info on the internet. I was on Lexapro for 6 months and after having side effects..slowed heartbeat, etc I decided in March of 2017 to go off of it. Unfortunately I did not taper properly..I went from 10 mg to 1/2 pill for a week and then for a few days I went down to a quarter of a pill. I should have sought help from the doctor but she was very pro medication and I felt like she would continue to push this for my GAD..I was on meds years ago but have been able to manage without anything for the last 7 years with exercise and hobbies, etc. I was dizzy and had stomach upset when I first went off but that went away.. then by about June I started having a bit of shaking of my hands here and there and increased anxiety. The nerves in my wrists and feet felt like they were crawling..irritated. By July I was waking up shaking in bed..almost like a vibration and what felt like tremors on and off in my arms. Thumbs quivering here and there when holding things..it does seem like it happens when I'm anxious. I have body parts that jerk as I'm trying to fall asleep and keep me awake. I then had terrible insomnia. Although I will say that has improved and I'm able to get sleep now. Sweating has gotten better. Twitching is on and off. I have been to the doctor numerous times who says it's anxiety. My lips even feel like they're vibrating also. No one can really see me shaking but I can feel it. By the end of July I tried going on Cymbalta which gave me a terrible reaction after only 2 days and I had to come off..head feeling very hot..hearing pulse in ears..sweating and completely out of it...they told me to stop taking that and the next day I could take Celexa ... I was even starting to have some slight head jerking here and there and a few weird blinks here and there too..lots of twitching.. so after 3 days I decided this was too risky to continue and called the doctor who told me to go down to 1/2 pill for a week and then stop..I even took a couple of quarter doses on top of that to make sure. I thought maybe I started to feel better as it got out of my system..even my nose felt plugged and my ears until it totally cleared. I have not taken anything since the beginning of August. I'm wondering if now I have a whole new set of withdrawals even though between the cymbalta and celexa I was only taking them for about 10 days. I recently went to a neurologist who did a thorough exam on me and could see nothing wrong. He did not order any tests. He said it was my anxiety acting up. He did say I might have some Ulnar Nerve issues since my last two fingers my hand were tingling. Any little emotion seems to set off the body type tremors/vibrations I'm feeling. Even if I'm happy or at a ballgame and get excited about something. Caffeine now really sets them offf. I am nearing menopause at 45 which is young but I am just about there according to my levels. I am seeing a physiatrist to double check about my spine as I have had issues there.. a fusion at c-6-7. I wake up extremely shaky..even when I don't feel anxious. I'm wondering if my nervous system is totally sensitized to everything. I have no idea what to do at this point since the neurologist says that he feels I don't tolerate meds very well and advised against it. I keep feeling like I have MS or Parkinsons but I have read so many similar stories from others who have come off of ssri's.. I didn't quite quit cold turkey but tapered too fast. I would appreciate any advice anyone could give me. I'm so desperate..I'm 5 months off of the Lexapro and it's been almost 4 weeks since my 2nd try at meds..wondering if I should have went back on the Lexapro instead of trying something different..at this point I'm afraid of Tardive Dyskinesia or something similar because of my reaction when I tried to go back on meds. I feel it would be to late to try and reinstate at this point also from what I've read. My fingers twitch here and there etc..it feels like my nerves are very irritated. Sorry for the novel. I would so appreciate any help. I am a mom of 3 girls and although the docs keep saying it's anxiety..I have never had this bad of anxiety.
  21. Would like advice/hear experience on sleep maintenance insomnia. I've been waking up consistently between 2AM to 4AM after I started an aggressive taper. Often I will be awake for 2-3 hours then fall back asleep but very frustrated with this sleeping pattern as I used to be a morning person. Was at 30mg Cymbalta (6/29/17) and currently at 6.25mg. Foolishly, I thought the main symptom I needed to watch was the brain zaps; however, I slowly realized the insomnia was not from peri-menopause but the Cymbalta withdrawals. Recently, researching sleeping aid options such as: Oleamide,Glycine, and Phosphorylated Serine. I believe these would be safe options with Cymbalta from what I can tell. I'm not even sure how much 6.25 mg of Cymbalta has on me as I back in October 2016 I was on 60mg and dropped to 30mg. I really would like to avoid re-upping my dosage to solve my insomnia.
  22. Please i need help. I am on cymbalta generic and have tapered down to approx 10 mgs from 90 using bead method. I also take a very low dose of ativan. I had tapered off the ativan in july 2016 and went back on much lower dose 4 months ago. I also take zyprexa at approx. 3.75 mgs. I have been trying to taper all three meds because i have fatty liver disease and need yo get off this junk before it turns into cirrhosis. So i made a cut last week and about 4 days ago i started to get severe anxiety. I was doing fine up until then but it seems like every time i get to a certain point with the zyorexa i get so anxious. I have tried several times to taper zyprexa. I am under alot of stress and i dont know if its me or withdrawal. I was put on these medications 9 years ago for anxiety. It was very bad. But i dont know if that anxiety was from klonopin or celexa. I did not have this kind of anxiety before those two meds. Someone please help me. I had to increase the zyprexa yesterday or i was going to end up in the hospital. I have to find a job because i will soon be homeless if i dont. How will i get off these horrible drugs and function at the same time??
  23. I have started the process of tapering off several medications, so that I can see what my baseline feels like. I have been on medication in one form or another since I was 23, for various health reasons, primarily chronic migraine and major depressive disorder. The list of current medication is as follows, 3600 mg Gabapentin, 150 mg Wellburtin, 25 mg Sequorel, 120 mg Cymbalta. I started my journey of getting clean on July 1/17. Currently I am at the following medication levels, 1800 mg Gabapentin, 150 mg Wellburtin, 90 mg Cymbalta. I have transitioned off the dosage of Sequorel in the last two days. I will be staying on the 150 mg Wellburtin and 60 mg Cymbalta, until I stabilize. How do I feel? Quite terrible, headachy, body aches, extreme nauseau and anxious.
  24. I am on Cymbalta and Temazepam. I know conventional wisdom says Benzo taper first. I am in severe tolerance. I am afraid of total insomnia as I am in severe pain from cervical dystonia I believe caused by Cymbalta. Can I taper Cymbalta first?
  25. Hello, I'm new to this site (although I've read a lot of your content by now), and I'm so grateful I found it!! I've been suffering from anxiety disorder and depression since I was a kid, around 8 years old (I'm 30 years old now). I've been in countless treatments since then, too many to remember. I've been taking Cymbalta for about 8 years now, I've tried going off cold turkey and obviously failed miserably and had to be put back on Cymbalta 60mg. Currently I am taking 30mg. My doctor said I should try alternating days to try to taper off, and since reading your content I realized this was the wrong approach. So I bought the Gemini 20 digital scale and the gelatin capsules, and I'm ready to start today with my 1st 10% reduction. I know I'm affected by withdrawal symptoms because when ever I forget taking mi pill I start getting brain saps, confusion, fatigue, etc. So I'm hoping this approach will help me taper off without any harsh side effects. I'm also taking Itravil, this is Clobenzorex, 30mg once a day. Basically I was prescribed and started taking this because of the fatigue I was experiencing, which now I believe could have been a result of the reduction in dosage of Cymbalta... So I don't know exactly what effects this medication will have in my withdrawal. Hoping for the best!

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